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[03:55:31] <SoyGuest22964> huh...
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[04:16:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Orders Phone Carriers to Block Scammers Behind 8 Billion Robocalls - https://sylnt.us - records-that-tell-us-your-auto-warranty-is-about-to-expire
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[06:24:52] <chromas> "Two Decades of Alzheimers Research May be Based on Deliberate Fraud"
[06:24:56] <chromas> Sounds like Russian propaganda
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[06:51:06] <Ellenor> no, realy
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[08:57:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An An, World’s Oldest Male Panda In Captivity, Dies At 35 - https://sylnt.us - RIP
[08:57:59] <nemo> Panda piece is a JR editorial?
[08:58:54] <janrinok> The story is a submission. Can you read past a few words without getting confused. It is 'Random'. It is designed to be different.
[08:59:50] * janrinok at least knows what today's made-up name will be for the next few minutes.
[09:03:26] <nemo> Right, just aristarchus messing with JR's head, and not a confused Soylentil who thought we had a policy against editorializing submissions.
[09:04:55] <janrinok> What you SUBMIT is one thing, how we PREPARE it for the front page is another.
[09:06:46] <janrinok> ... and who is this "we" you are referring to? What part of the community do you play?
[09:26:21] <Ellenor> Agilent, Keysight, HP, Hewlett Packard Enterprise. Fuck all of them. The spirit that runs through all four companies is a spirit of fscking the customer (by which I don't mean inspecting and repairing their VxFS volumes).
[09:26:44] <Ellenor> (I have a HP printer which sucks massive donkey balls)
[09:27:17] <Ellenor> (context: I was searching for vial crimpers on ebay and I saw an agilent-branded vial listed for sale - not what I wanted, but)
[09:41:54] <janrinok> what kind of vials are they? I've not know people who need to crimp vials before....
[09:42:00] <janrinok> *known
[09:48:01] <Ellenor> vials for substances to inject
[10:15:04] <janrinok> Whenever I have had to use vials they were already full and sealed. I've never had to file and seal my own.
[10:18:10] <nemo> Me, Too!
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[10:56:46] <Ellenor> janrinok, Yeah.
[11:24:06] <FatPhil> does ari really think that we won't notice that, just in the last 5 days, deathwatchbeetle, onasterarchus, oleoarchus, and nemo have all popped out of the same vpn?
[11:25:43] <FatPhil> there's surely a betteridge-like law: if your question begins "does ari really think...", the answer's no.
[11:25:54] <janrinok> true
[11:26:43] <FatPhil> but on the positive side, all questions beginning "is ari so stupid..." ...
[11:29:08] <janrinok> He is obviously not amongst the brightest of people
[11:39:37] <FatPhil> a problem that can be solved with a flask of ethyl ether and a match.
[11:41:58] <janrinok> lol
[11:42:10] <janrinok> see other channel
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[12:21:44] <Ellenor> who is ari and where is the other channel
[12:22:02] <Ellenor> also all the people I know who are called something like ari or ari* are women so I would like a cite on this one using he/him
[12:43:27] <janrinok> "where is the other channel" - there are lots of them. FP knew which one I meant.
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[13:17:49] <Ellenor> obscurantist.
[13:48:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Give Me Some Space - https://sylnt.us - first-art-then-science
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[15:03:41] * Runaway1956 experiences some passing curiosity why Ellenor needs vial crimpers
[15:04:53] <Runaway1956> for the record, I've used two-part injections (rabies) for the dogs, but, the two vials already had the ingredients, all I had to do was draw the liquid out of one, inject it into the other with the powder
[15:07:01] <Ellenor> Runaway1956: home mixing of estrogenic steroid hormones
[15:07:12] <janrinok> Well, I suppose somebody has to seal them....
[15:07:20] <janrinok> ah, and there is the answer.
[15:07:55] <janrinok> tnx Ellenor - just our curiosity I suppose....
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[15:09:10] <Runaway1956> Yep, someone has to do it, or it won't get done - but that's one job I never imagined myself doing, lol
[15:10:56] <Ellenor> it won't get done unless you have an Rx, and I don't have an Rx. So yeah.
[15:14:42] <Runaway1956> ISP is truly weird today - I'm getting speed test results all the way from .5 up to 12.9 Mbps
[15:15:09] <Runaway1956> can't wait for the electric coop to turn on the fiber
[15:15:34] <Runaway1956> Think I'll call them tomorrow, and ask how much longer
[15:22:27] <janrinok> I'm not getting much more than your lower end as a matter of routine. Fastest has been around 1.5Mbps. Rural life!
[15:23:34] <Runaway1956> Can't speak for any part of Europe (or elsewhere) but congress has paid the telcos billions to get fast out to us rural hicks.
[15:24:05] <Runaway1956> I'll be singing the electric company's praises forever for taking the intiative here
[15:24:39] <janrinok> oh, it is coming gradually. There are towns and cities within 20km or so with full fibre. But the latest estimate is another 2 years or so before it reaches me.
[15:25:07] <Runaway1956> I know that feeling exactly, lol
[15:26:02] <janrinok> There is actually a fibre running about 150m from my home, but nobody is going to dig it up and connect me just for the hell of it. I've offered to get more of the locals to all contribute to pay for the work but they say it is simply a lack of qualified personnel to do the work.
[15:27:14] <Runaway1956> lol - the youngster who hooked up the boxes on the poles is 19 years old, graduated high school last year, has zero qualifications
[15:27:29] <Runaway1956> On the job training for the win!
[15:27:55] <Runaway1956> The other crews are standard electric linesmen
[15:28:40] * Runaway1956 still doesn't understand why they went with overhead lines - first storm will wreak havoc
[15:31:40] <janrinok> it's cheap - for the first installation!
[15:33:58] <janrinok> digging up main roads, avoiding electricity cables, water and sewage pipes etc is not a job for somebody with no skills.
[15:34:22] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.pcgamer.com
[15:34:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Chess Playing Robot Broke a Kid's Finger" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[15:34:58] <c0lo_> =submit https://news.un.org
[15:35:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Monkeypox Declared a Global Health Emergency by the World Health Organization" (8p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:35:38] <Runaway1956> =submit https://indianexpress.com
[15:35:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Robot Goes Rogue, Breaks Child’s Finger During Chess Match" (9p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:35:51] <Runaway1956> Don't allow your preteen kids to drive the family robot!
[15:36:29] <Runaway1956> video in the second link
[15:37:00] <janrinok> The monkey pox story is already in the queue, but thanks anyway
[15:44:08] <c0lo_> Horse's mouth, janirok. That's where you get your monkeypox. news. the best (grin)
[15:44:54] <c0lo_> (not like you can't link both, can't you?)
[15:46:18] <c0lo_> (too many tabs)
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[15:47:17] <c0lo> A lot better.
[16:13:56] <janrinok> they are already merged...
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[16:25:28] <Pyro_MX> That is one massive robot arm to move chess pieces... what are they made of? Bulletproof kevlar?
[16:26:15] <janrinok> Pity the kid wasn't.....
[16:27:15] <Pyro_MX> Hopefully the kid is OK, TFA seems more concerned about the robot's state than the kid's :(
[16:27:53] <janrinok> They didn't have to pay for the kid, I guess?
[16:28:29] <Pyro_MX> Ooooooo ouch
[16:29:03] <Pyro_MX> Next up in the news: kid puts his|her hand in the way of a speed-record-breaking rubik cube solver
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[16:30:27] <janrinok> it's a hard tough life for gamers...
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[18:27:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Craft Coffee is Everywhere! Research Explains How We Got There - https://sylnt.us - is-"hipster"-second-or-third-wave?
[18:55:08] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.tomshardware.com
[18:55:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AMD Establishes New CPU Design Center in NY" (21p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:56:02] <Runaway1956> Can we merge c0lo to Bender?
[19:00:03] <janrinok> The story is already released.
[19:00:58] <janrinok> ... if I have understood correctly what you are asking me to do.
[19:01:24] <janrinok> and if not, please explain a little better?
[19:07:19] <Runaway1956> I figure if we merge the two entities, they'll be stronger and better, lol
[19:07:39] <Runaway1956> maybe we could call it c0lo-bot
[19:08:12] <Runaway1956> merging him to systemd would result in something terribly psychotic though
[19:08:53] <janrinok> sorry - I missed the joke there. I was concentrating on 2 things at once.
[19:09:09] <Runaway1956> lol, pay me no mind then
[19:09:46] * Runaway1956 missed his sleep last night, so probably not funny anyway
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[21:47:34] <halibut> Ellenor: I'm not good at detecting sarcasm in text, so in case your question was genuine: ``ari'' refers to a character who used the nick ``aristarchus''. He would frequently claim to be an ancient Greek of that name (at least, that was the impression I got), so ``he'' seems to be appropriate.
[21:49:36] <halibut> He was recently banned after much consideration from the staff and community ( https://soylentnews.org ), and now someone who seems very like him frequently logs on to this chat under various names and talks about that. See, for example, deathwatchbeetle ( https://logs.sylnt.us ). Note how that character immediately knows the
[21:49:39] <systemd> ^ 03DECISION – ‘aristarchus’ - SoylentNews
[21:49:41] <systemd> ^ 03#soylent | Logs for 2022-07-19 ( https://logs.sylnt.us )
[21:49:42] <halibut> correct spelling of Aristarchus, and also uses a masculine pronoun. I suspect that is good reason to use ``he''.
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[22:14:54] <FatPhil> He's got multiple personalities, the correct term is now aristarchoi.
[22:16:51] <FatPhil> I'm not sure if greek has a case for the infinite in number, but the quantity of accounts he registers per week, now per day, is accelerating. We might need to handle the arrival of the aristarchus infinitude eventually.
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[22:37:56] <halibut> If I wanted to start my own school, I would name the accounts with Roman numerals: halibuti, halibutii, halibutiii, halibutiv, halibuv, halibuvi, and so on.
[22:38:04] <halibut> The goa would be to eventually achieve halibum.
[22:38:11] <halibut> Obviously, that would take a while.
[22:38:25] <halibut> (goa -> goal)
[22:39:31] <halibut> ``halibud'' has a nice ring to it, and would only take half as long to achieve.
[22:39:59] <FatPhil> I know someone who went to Goa. The only thing I remember about his recounting of his time there was that at one place the "toilet" was going to the edge of one field, and shitting over a fence into another field.
[22:40:21] <FatPhil> That's not the reason I remember the story, obviously, that's boring.
[22:41:39] <FatPhil> It was the fact that there were pigs in the other field. And occasionally the tongue would meet sphincter.
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[23:15:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Senators Propose Ban On Data Caps, Blasting ISPs For “Predatory” Limits - https://sylnt.us