#Soylent | Logs for 2019-04-07
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[00:27:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Top Democrat Proposes Annual Tax on Unrealized Capital Gains - http://sylnt.us
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[02:57:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australian Plan to Ban Petrol and Diesel Cars - http://sylnt.us - Gotta-ban-them-all-dept
[02:58:05] <AzumaHazuki> Noy jitat. Are they serious?
[02:58:26] <AzumaHazuki> This is putting the 'roo before the stagecoach. The infrastructure isn't in place yet
[04:00:55] <chromas> Finally something good on instagram https://www.thedailybeast.com
[04:00:56] <upstart> ^ 03Instagram’s New Stars: Crime Scene Cleanup Specialists
[04:17:04] <chromas> https://www.howtogeek.com
[04:17:05] <upstart> ^ 03Microsoft Abandons Windows 10’s Constant Forced Updates
[04:28:01] <AzumaHazuki> FUCKING FINALLY
[04:29:09] <AzumaHazuki> good thing too, as i just updated a friend's old C2D tower with an SSD and Win10 and the last thing she'll want to do is deal with 10's update asshattery
[04:30:18] <chromas> I just recently learned Classic-Shell is apparently dead. There's a fork called Open-Shell
[04:30:57] <chromas> in case you want a windows start menu made for adults
[04:32:35] <AzumaHazuki> made sure to get that of course. all my win10 installs get classic shell, shut up 10, the works
[04:54:53] <Runaway1956_> How To End A Friendship In One Easy Step: Install Win10 on your friend's computer.
[04:55:26] <AzumaHazuki> She asked for it *shrug*
[04:55:41] <AzumaHazuki> it's dualbooting with Linux and a nice Win10-like Plasma theme
[04:55:56] <Runaway1956_> Hold . . .
[04:55:59] <AzumaHazuki> i'm trying to subtly encourage her to use the Linux end, since she basically just plays browser games
[04:57:34] <Runaway1956_> She asked for it https://s.abcnews.com
[05:00:07] <AzumaHazuki> what the fuck is the matter with you?
[05:00:19] <AzumaHazuki> ...no, don't answer that. just the fact that that's the first thing that comes to mind, jesus...
[05:00:55] <Runaway1956_> No, Jesus don't work her no more. I think he's at Pilgrim's.
[05:01:22] <AzumaHazuki> christ, just shut up. not only are you not funny, you're cringey as hell and you make me embarrassed to be in the same room as you
[05:01:44] <Runaway1956_> We're not in the same room, thank God.
[05:02:06] <AzumaHazuki> there, one little I-line takes care of that problem...
[05:02:33] <Runaway1956_> Sweet
[05:16:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Announces Printed 3D Habitat Winners - http://sylnt.us - intellects-vast-and-cool-and-unsympathetic,-regarded-this-earth-with-envious-eyes
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[07:03:16] <FatPhil> crispy bacon++
[07:37:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Snacks Included: Newly-Opened Egyptian Tomb has Mummified Cats, Falcons, and Dozens of Mice - http://sylnt.us - the-cult-of-the-mouse-may-be-older-than-we-realized
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[10:26:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ecuador Denies That Julian Assange Will be Evicted From Embassy in London - http://sylnt.us - unwelcome-guest
[12:06:42] <Bytram> =g tonne kg
[12:06:43] <upstart> https://www.metric-conversions.org - Tonnes to Kilograms conversion
[12:06:53] <Bytram> =g tonne
[12:06:54] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Tonne - Wikipedia
[12:06:58] <Bytram> =g tonne m-w
[12:06:59] <upstart> https://www.merriam-webster.com - Tonne | Definition of Tonne by Merriam-Webster
[12:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:26:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4706
[12:26:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:27:00] * exec democratically writes a fanfic featuring a toilet bowl of peanuts about Bytram
[12:27:07] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:27:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4707
[12:27:10] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:27:12] * exec whole-heartedly mixes a pipe of gold rings with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:27:30] <Bytram> I think you won that one
[12:27:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you're a huge peanut fan, yep
[12:28:19] <Bytram> I *do* like peanuts, but I think a toilet-bowl filled is a bit beyond even my capacity for eating in one sitting.
[12:28:26] <Bytram> bad pun, intended!
[12:29:49] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:30:01] <Bytram> mission accomplished!
[12:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting some caffeine in me then looking into rs3's journal issue
[12:30:20] <Bytram> what's he issue?
[12:30:26] <Bytram> s/he/the/
[12:30:29] <exec> <Bytram> what's the issue?
[12:30:29] <Bytram> linky?
[12:32:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> he can't post a comments not allowed journal entry
[12:32:28] <Bytram> wait.
[12:32:58] <Bytram> he cannot post comments at all, or not to his journal, or not to any journal, or he cannot create a journal entry?
[12:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> the last
[12:33:13] <Bytram> hrrrm
[12:33:19] <Bytram> thas weird!
[12:33:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya. i got a to the minute time of an occurrence from him though, so i know where to look in the logs.
[12:34:32] <Bytram> kewel!
[12:42:45] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: BTW, while you are looking at that, there's an other issue having to do with making comments to Journal entries. We limit the time people can comment on a story to (ISTR 30 days) but there seems to be NO time limit on when comments can be posted to journal entries. See: https://soylentnews.org
[12:42:46] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments
[12:43:25] <Bytram> The journal entry is dated 2014-04-10 (five YEARS ago) and the comment was posted 2019-03-25.
[12:43:43] <Bytram> Spammers gotta love that!
[12:43:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, working as intended. i intended it so as soon as i noticed it was happening so i wouldn't have to fix it. =P
[12:44:18] <Bytram> BAD? Broken as Designed?
[12:45:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In San Francisco, Making a Living from Your Billionaire Neighbor's Trash - http://sylnt.us - garbage-in-garbage^W-money-out?
[12:45:07] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:45:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> it needs a different setting in the db so we can let journals run longer
[12:46:08] <Bytram> oh, did you see my note about fixing the year display in journal stories? Is live on prod for testing; but needs to be put into git for permanence.
[12:47:23] <Bytram> see original notification here: https://logs.sylnt.us
[12:47:23] <upstart> ^ 03#dev | Logs for 2019-04-05 ( https://logs.sylnt.us )
[12:47:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's fuck all to do with journals in the logs anywhere near the time he gave me
[12:48:17] <Bytram> hrrrm
[12:48:30] <Bytram> I *just* looked at his account
[12:48:38] <Bytram> nothing obvious stuck out for me
[12:49:00] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[12:49:01] <upstart> ^ 03RS3 - SoylentNews User
[12:49:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: oh, did he give you *local* time or UTC?
[12:49:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah. be a good time for you to get your practice with git in on dev. i can get you cooking directions wrote up this morning if you like.
[12:49:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> local, which i converted to UTC
[12:49:43] <Bytram> what about DST?
[12:50:06] <Bytram> Looks like he is set up for Automatic DST on his acct
[12:50:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh blarg. wasn't dst but i mentally converted from the wrong timezone
[12:50:23] <Bytram> =)
[12:50:25] <Bytram> ~blame
[12:50:27] * exec points at Bytram
[12:50:39] <Bytram> ~time x
[12:50:42] <exec> Sunday, 7 April 2019 @ 12:50 pm UTC - Coordinated Universal Time
[12:50:46] <Bytram> ~time boston
[12:50:48] <exec> Sunday, 7 April 2019 @ 8:50 am EDT - Boston, MA
[12:50:54] <Bytram> yup, 4 hours
[12:51:04] <Bytram> hth
[12:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> still nada
[12:52:15] <Bytram> drat!
[12:55:01] <Bytram> hmmm
[12:55:07] <Bytram> I have an idea
[12:55:12] <Bytram> give me a minute
[12:59:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, nevermind. it's apparently working as intended.
[13:00:01] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: are you watching the logs? I'm about to try to post a journal entry on a non-privileged acct
[13:00:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> he just didn't read the error message saying you can't post journal entries without comments enabled.
[13:00:22] <Bytram> using all defaults
[13:00:29] <Bytram> oh? perfect!
[13:00:47] <Bytram> >>> You must enable comments for all users if you've marked your submission as "publicize" or "publish."
[13:01:59] <Bytram> except... I do not see any controls to enable/disable "publicize" or "publish."
[13:03:29] <Bytram> so... why do we give the use the choice of "Comments Enabled" / "Comments Disabled"? ISTM that the default: "Comments Disabled" does not work, so should just default to "Comments Enabled".
[13:03:59] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[13:04:13] <Bytram> We are defaulting to creating a fail condition. :(
[13:04:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves time.
[13:04:41] <Bytram> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[13:04:41] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with a semi-dessicated maggot-infested dead cat
[13:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> fail at the start and you don't have to go looking for bugs.
[13:05:05] <Bytram> Hey! That's *MY* job!
[13:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> see? saved you some work already.
[13:06:02] <Bytram> template: journaledit;journal;default
[13:08:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> not something i can fix without pushing a bunch of other untested changes unless i edit the hot code.
[13:10:45] <Bytram> I think a template change would do it.
[13:11:01] <Bytram> delete from:
[13:11:02] <Bytram> [% IF !article.discussion %]
[13:11:04] <Bytram> to:
[13:11:15] <Bytram> [% ELSE %]
[13:11:23] <Bytram> and also remove: the following:
[13:11:30] <Bytram> [% END %]
[13:11:34] <Bytram> leaving just:
[13:11:47] <Bytram> [% PROCESS formLabel value => "Comments" %]
[13:11:47] <Bytram> [% PROCESS formNote note => "Comments are enabled" %]
[13:12:19] <Bytram> ok, gtg and get rady for work
[13:12:25] <Bytram> ok, gtg and get ready for work
[13:12:59] <Bytram> afk
[13:18:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, that would not do anything useful. that's logic for creating the dropdown box not processing the submitted info.
[13:22:25] <Bytram> I thought it would remove the user's choice for comments being disabled and default to comments enabled?
[13:24:05] <Bytram> the rest of it seems to be about firehose processing (which we do not support) allowing a journal article to be automatically submitted as a story?
[13:25:12] <Bytram> gtg; biab
[13:31:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, nod nod. i'm out for the day. responded to his email letting him know the situation but that it's not something i'm going to push out a fix for any time soon.
[13:33:30] <Bytram> k
[13:41:03] <Bytram> Hrrrm. Maybe add some HTML just after: [% IF !article.discussion %] to the effect of: "<b>You must enable comments to be able to submit an entry to your Journal.</b>"
[13:41:07] <Runaway1956_> #submit https://www.oann.com
[13:41:08] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:41:15] <Bytram> I *think* that is the right place.
[13:41:33] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:43:42] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: https://en.wikipedia.org "One America News Network, also referred to as One America News, is an American conservative cable news television channel launched on July 4, 2013 that is owned by Herring Networks, Inc. "
[13:43:43] <upstart> ^ 03One America News Network - Wikipedia
[13:44:45] <Bytram> also, given a choice, #submit requires much more work for the editors than using =submit or using ~arthur with something taken from: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[13:44:47] <upstart> ^ 03Storybot - SoylentNews
[13:45:34] <Bytram> If you can find another source for that story, so as to provide balanced perspective, that would be much appreciated!
[13:46:48] <Bytram> =submit https://www.computerworld.com
[13:46:50] <upstart> Submitting "Massive bank app security holes: You might want to go back to that money under the mattress tactic"...
[13:47:12] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Massive Bank App Security Holes: You Might Want to Go Back to That Money Under the Mattress Tactic" -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:04] <Bytram> ~arthur 229807
[13:51:08] <exec> 577 stories loaded
[13:51:09] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Major study debunks myth that moderate drinking can be healthy"
[13:51:39] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:45] <exec> 576 stories loaded
[13:52:13] <Bytram> ~arthur 7d632e
[13:52:16] <exec> it has been only 37 seconds since the last submission - please wait
[13:54:22] <Bytram> ~arthur 7d632e
[13:54:31] <exec> 576 stories loaded
[13:54:32] <exec> attempting to submit story: "New discovery provides key to side effects caused by erectile dysfunction drugs"
[13:55:02] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission - maybe try again in a minute
[13:55:25] <Bytram> ~arthur 7d632e
[13:55:32] <exec> 579 stories loaded
[13:55:33] <exec> attempting to submit story: "New discovery provides key to side effects caused by erectile dysfunction drugs"
[13:56:03] <exec> error: something went wrong with your submission - maybe try again in a minute
[13:56:10] <Bytram> ~arthur 81b3da
[13:56:18] <exec> 579 stories loaded
[13:56:19] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Saudi Arabia threatens to ditch dollar oil trades to stop 'NOPEC'"
[13:56:35] <Bytram> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[13:56:37] <upstart> Submitting "New discovery provides key to side effects caused by erectile dysfunction drugs"...
[13:56:48] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[13:56:54] <exec> 578 stories loaded
[13:56:59] <upstart> Submit failed:
[13:57:10] <Bytram> lol
[13:57:18] <Bytram> okay, gtg
[13:57:22] <Bytram> have a great day everyone!
[15:06:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How a Bitcoin Evangelist Made Himself Vanish, in 15 (Not So Easy) Steps - http://sylnt.us - but-did-he-send-a-swab-to-FamilyTreeDNA
[16:11:15] <chromas> Meh, ~submit and #submit 'require' us to add stuff, but ~arthur and =submit require us to subtract. It's math either way
[17:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Change: 'Magic Bullet' Carbon Solution Takes Big Step - http://sylnt.us
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[19:24:29] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, 21°C/69°F, 12:24 pm PDT, Sunday, 7 April 2019
[19:24:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Ahhh, yes, Zeus...bring the rains this weekend!
[19:25:21] Ethanol-fueled is now known as SoyGuest22481
[19:25:23] <RandomFactor> Not here. Pollen continues unabated.
[19:25:28] <SoyGuest22481> Goddammit
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[19:26:13] <Ethanol-fueled_> Goddammit
[19:26:27] <Ethanol-fueled_> I have a degree in computer science and can't even operate IRC
[19:26:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> It's all the fault of the Blacks.
[19:27:09] <RandomFactor> I'm just too lazy to figure it out
[19:27:30] <Ethanol-fueled_> randomfactor, do you like oily nips?
[19:27:56] <RandomFactor> Yeah, i even liked the olean ones before they decided we couldn't have those
[19:28:17] <Ethanol-fueled_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[19:28:18] <upstart> ^ 03Cheese Nips - Wikipedia
[19:28:23] <Ethanol-fueled_> Those are the bomb-diggity
[19:29:31] <Ethanol-fueled_> Kraft are the motherfuckers that killed cheese
[19:29:58] <RandomFactor> Cheese food.
[19:30:19] <Ethanol-fueled_> I read on slashdot that somebody knew the guy who developed kraft cheese, extracting all the cheese goodness from cheese and then developing the oil-and-water "cheese product"
[19:30:26] <Ethanol-fueled_> apparantly that motherfucker became filthy rich
[19:30:59] <RandomFactor> really? Usually i figure the company got all that
[19:31:36] <Ethanol-fueled_> https://en.wikipedia.org
[19:31:37] <upstart> ^ 03Cheese cracker - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[19:31:46] <Ethanol-fueled_> man, look at that pile of salty Goldfish crackers
[19:31:54] <Ethanol-fueled_> doesn't that get your juices flowing?
[19:32:35] <Ethanol-fueled_> Some nigga liked cheese crackers so much he made a page about it.
[19:33:15] <RandomFactor> I'm eating a mac and cheese and mystery meat TV dinner. Cardboard would get my juices flowing.
[19:33:32] <Ethanol-fueled_> Sweet, man.
[19:33:57] <Ethanol-fueled_> shit you can get 2 Hungry Mans for like 4 bucks even here.
[19:34:19] <Ethanol-fueled_> TV dinners are the bomb-diggity
[19:34:37] <RandomFactor> maybe there's more food in the basement... back in a moment
[19:36:13] <Ethanol-fueled_> FRIED CHICKEN.
[19:36:16] <Ethanol-fueled_> Kool-AID
[19:36:25] <Ethanol-fueled_> FRIED CABBAGE.
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[19:37:48] <RandomFactor> pfttpt fine
[19:57:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan's Space Agency Working on Robotic Moonbase Construction - http://sylnt.us - Japan-Robots-Moonbases,-Oh-my!
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[21:36:38] <exec> welcome Ethanol-fueled: San Diego, CA, 22°C/71°F, 2:36 pm PDT, Sunday, 7 April 2019
[21:36:53] <Ethanol-fueled> https://www.bing.com
[21:36:54] <upstart> ^ 03cains blood - Bing video
[21:37:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell yeah
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[22:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UMD Researchers’ Wood-Based Technology Creates Electricity From Heat - http://sylnt.us
[22:49:10] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.msn.com
[22:49:12] <upstart> Submitting "Deadly germs, Lost cures: A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy"...
[22:49:34] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Deadly Germs, Lost Cures: A Mysterious Infection, Spanning the Globe in a Climate of Secrecy" -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:51:24] <AzumaHazuki> this one is fucking scary. it resists goddamn itraconazole, Sporanox
[22:52:50] <AzumaHazuki> I've been afraid of something like this for a long time...given my field of work it's inevitable we're going to get someone who has this