#Soylent | Logs for 2014-05-31

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[00:00:03] <arti> IT terrified me
[00:00:18] <crutchy> you should tell IT to go away :-P
[00:00:30] <arti> i do crutchy, but it wakes up right when the teacher calls on me
[00:00:42] <arti> sucks doing the seasonal santa thing too
[00:01:03] * Subsentient drowns IT in boiling peanut butter
[00:01:34] <arti> pain olympics
[00:03:29] <Subsentient> Hey, peanut butter is always plentiful here in Universe 2.
[00:03:33] <crutchy> swiss... you might be able to just use the sim in a gsm module connected to a serial port for some l337 nerd embedded stuff :-P
[00:03:38] <arti> more like universe poo
[00:03:44] <swiss> crutchy: no sim afaik
[00:03:46] <arti> pardon: univerthse poo
[00:04:01] <crutchy> lol
[00:04:52] <Subsentient> arti: On a much more serious note, do NOT get sucked into smartphones and cloud BS
[00:05:07] <Subsentient> I won't own a cell because people give me the eye for having a dumbphone
[00:05:26] * arti developed Android and iOS software with cheap tricks and nonsense
[00:05:26] <Subsentient> I won't be assimilated.
[00:05:26] <crutchy> in traya they suck you in by making them cheaper than dumbfones
[00:05:28] <chromas> You don't have to hook it to teh cloudz
[00:05:38] <arti> bonus, the builds were web driven, with php
[00:05:45] <chromas> Or get one of those 5" tablets; it's basically the same wtihout the cell radio firmware
[00:05:49] <crutchy> and glowballth
[00:05:52] <arti> lol
[00:05:53] <Subsentient> chromas: If it's boot locked, it's a brick to me and completely and totally useless in all respects.
[00:06:04] <arti> i really dislike how invasive they can be
[00:06:05] <chromas> I've never had a boot locked one
[00:06:08] <arti> not can be, are
[00:06:24] <chromas> I guess the Sony one was kind of but they tell you how to unlock it on their site
[00:06:26] <crutchy> i think you can override
[00:06:28] <arti> however, i really like using mine for running, the gps thing is sweet
[00:06:29] <Subsentient> chromas: If I can't load any ARM OS I want on it, it's boot-locked. If I can run any OS as long as it's Android, then fuck that.
[00:06:45] <arti> maybe i can make a ghetto one with raspberry pi
[00:06:52] <crutchy> even the galaxy s2/3/4 etc have unlock codes
[00:06:59] <arti> all i'd need is some tool to yell Bomb somewhere and i'd be hosed
[00:07:00] <chromas> Android's Linux so I'd think you could just take the drivers and load them into Debian
[00:07:06] * Subsentient pondered making a Ghetto Pi laptop and freaking people out on the bus
[00:07:23] <chromas> Don't put any blinkenlights on it
[00:07:28] <chromas> or take it to Boston
[00:07:36] <arti> i still think that was bs
[00:07:44] * arti tightens his tinfoil hat
[00:07:47] <crutchy> just buy a toshiba, take the covers off, put some borg implants on and tell them you have no control over it
[00:08:44] <crutchy> you'll probably empty the bus of everyone except blonde chicks :-P
[00:08:46] <chromas> Going back slightly, Android doesn't have any Google stuff unless you install their application package
[00:09:02] <chromas> crutchy: I hope so
[00:09:02] <Subsentient> Android is made by Google.
[00:09:10] <arti> you should call your device the Supreme Gentlemen
[00:09:10] <Subsentient> I mean cmon
[00:09:13] <chromas> Google API stuff
[00:09:15] <arti> man*
[00:09:18] <crutchy> i think google just bought android
[00:09:23] <Subsentient> Android is WRITTEN BY GOOGLE FOR FUCK'S SAKE
[00:09:25] <arti> Google API, like TrackMeGently
[00:09:39] <arti> GetMyCurrentMood
[00:09:50] <arti> SuggestProducts
[00:09:54] <crutchy> WhatsTheColorOfMyPoss
[00:09:55] <Subsentient> s/Track/Fuck/
[00:10:01] <crutchy> WhatsTheColorOfMyPoos
[00:10:01] <arti> also SuggestProductsEx
[00:10:12] <arti> crutchy, you change the color when observing
[00:10:17] <crutchy> hmm wait that's fb api
[00:10:50] <arti> or possibly twitter
[00:11:01] <crutchy> ahh so i can use SetPooColorEx
[00:11:06] <chromas> PooPI
[00:11:07] <arti> http://www.penny-arcade.com
[00:11:28] <crutchy> i was expecting bash.org :-P
[00:11:45] <arti> relevency
[00:12:50] <crutchy> i clicked the next button and got this
[00:12:51] <crutchy> http://www.penny-arcade.com
[00:12:54] <crutchy> lmao
[00:14:25] <paulej72> crutchy: it uses css poo-color:#440;
[00:15:19] <crutchy> http://www.penny-arcade.com
[00:15:42] * crutchy ... must.... close.... penny arcade....
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[00:15:54] <crutchy> phew
[00:16:04] <crutchy> man that shit's as bad as xkcd
[00:17:03] <crutchy> lol paulej72only on internet exploder
[00:18:02] <arti> oh dude, crutchy penny arcade nails it with things
[00:18:52] <crutchy> it should come a warning :-P
[00:18:55] <arti> http://www.penny-arcade.com
[00:19:01] <crutchy> no
[00:19:03] <arti> wait
[00:19:05] <arti> you linked that one
[00:19:10] <crutchy> will not click
[00:19:12] <arti> juuuuust kidding
[00:19:29] <arti> that could be a good name
[00:19:32] <arti> Justin Case
[00:19:35] <arti> Will Notclick
[00:19:43] <arti> Naughtklik
[00:19:44] <crutchy> haha
[00:19:50] <arti> Cliff Edge
[00:20:21] <arti> not sure if i shared this, i was cracking up at it:
[00:20:22] <arti> In Russia I think "taking care of dogs" means beating a pack of rabid, wild, frenzied wolves away with your bare hands to protect your pet chicken, which you spend 60% of your earnings on feed for, hoping it will survive until Christmas so you can once again taste the heavenly gift that is meat.
[00:21:03] <crutchy> sri lankan names are more fun
[00:21:08] <crutchy> heesa hasbin
[00:21:17] <crutchy> heene varwas
[00:21:24] <arti> oh what about the Batman Bin Suparman
[00:21:30] <crutchy> peenu tbutterjars
[00:21:47] <arti> Peenu, better than Puune
[00:21:48] * Subsentient prefers xkcd
[00:21:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Reading Rainbow Kickstarter Surpasses $1M Goal - http://sylnt.us - damn-kids-these-days
[00:21:50] <crutchy> ahkeep mateethinajarbesidethebed
[00:22:05] <arti> hahaha
[00:22:31] <Subsentient> if artedanditsmellsli ke-chee-se
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[00:40:01] <Blackmoore> gnight folks - have a good weekend
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[01:37:52] <crutchy> is it just me or is it wrong that companies can't employ children but media companies can profit from using children in tv/advertising/film/etc
[01:39:23] <chromas> truncate starting at "but"
[01:39:34] * arti hides his persian rugs
[01:39:42] <crutchy> aren't media companies technically employing children to act
[01:39:57] <arti> dude! remember that show, kids incorporated?
[01:40:05] <crutchy> lol chromas yes it is wrong to exploit children
[01:40:20] <crutchy> but media companies seem to get away with it and its accepted
[01:40:26] <chromas> Should be able to hire them
[01:40:42] <crutchy> as long as they're paid a fair wage
[01:40:58] <crutchy> its not slavery after all
[01:41:22] <crutchy> but i don't get how people get all pissy about employers hiring children
[01:41:24] <chromas> Could be under minimum wage though, since they don't have to live on it
[01:41:32] <arti> chromas lol
[01:41:38] <chromas> Well, maybe minumum wage since people can't live on it
[01:41:40] <arti> "truncate starting at but"
[01:41:47] <arti> i'd buy you a beer for that
[01:41:49] <crutchy> minimum wage is pretty dumb anyway
[01:41:52] <crutchy> even for adults
[01:42:44] <crutchy> it basically says "if you can't give me $minimum_wage value then i can't hire you, which means unskilled workers don't get any work
[01:44:09] <arti> well, that's why you take money from people who make money and give it to the ones who dont :D
[01:44:34] <crutchy> good ol' theft :-P
[01:44:45] <chromas> Also we should be filling many of those jobs with children—picking beans and stuff
[01:44:54] <chromas> Or teens, who aren't children
[01:45:01] <crutchy> it would be good for their resumes
[01:45:07] <crutchy> and would give them skills
[01:45:27] <crutchy> and they could quit if they get sick of it
[01:45:41] <crutchy> generally those sorts of jobs are high turnover anyway
[01:46:17] <crutchy> and a bit of extra pocket money wouldn't go astray either... kids need drug money too
[01:46:38] <chromas> Though less so if they have something to do besides drugs
[01:47:31] <crutchy> its a pity minimum wage cuts off teenagers from the employment ladder
[01:47:42] <arti> i think we should make the captcha system human powered
[01:47:58] <arti> should/could
[01:48:02] <arti> think of the accuracy :D
[01:48:03] <chromas> Make humans fight the robots?
[01:48:09] <crutchy> yes
[01:48:11] <arti> chromas: that's working out well in the middle east
[01:48:17] <arti> WEDDING VS HELLFIRE
[01:48:28] <arti> INCOMING FREEDOM!
[01:48:38] <crutchy> i think they're doing pretty well on the ground though
[01:48:48] <arti> pffft
[01:48:53] <crutchy> what's the US military body count now?
[01:49:02] <crutchy> 4k, 5k?
[01:49:10] <crutchy> i don't even know anymroe
[01:49:13] <arti> okay, and what losses have they suffered for that huge victory :P
[01:49:25] <arti> it's like age of empires with the cheats on
[01:49:32] <arti> quick, send the villagers!
[01:49:48] <crutchy> kinda, but there is an infinite supply of villagers
[01:50:10] <crutchy> and the villagers adapt
[01:50:12] <arti> they still take time to grow
[01:50:34] <crutchy> and meanwhile the cheating player is going broke
[01:50:45] <crutchy> well, is already pretty much
[01:50:58] <crutchy> printing money = broke
[01:51:12] <arti> it's the best system yet
[01:51:20] <arti> trade worthless pieces of paper for your resources
[01:51:33] <crutchy> it seems to bee working longer than many expected
[01:51:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study: Internet Video Streaming Better for Environment - http://sylnt.us - carbon-neutral-fair-use-policy
[01:52:10] <crutchy> but is also kinda setting the cheating player up for a bigger fall when that worthless paper isn't tradeable any more
[01:52:32] <arti> what's it traded for?
[01:52:32] <crutchy> the cheating player is like a child, dependent on everyone else
[01:52:33] <chromas> the papers were always worthless
[01:52:58] <arti> crutchy, you're assuming that things are needed elsewhere. the goal now is exhausting the cheap options elsewhere, then turning to your own reserves
[01:53:28] <crutchy> you can't just turn on your factories when you can't use anyone else's
[01:53:36] <crutchy> there aren't any factories
[01:53:42] <crutchy> they need to be built
[01:53:42] <arti> lol
[01:54:08] <crutchy> then when you fill them with employees demanding higher salaries, the prices of the things made skyrockets
[01:54:33] <arti> no factories, that's such a joke
[01:54:46] <crutchy> where are they?
[01:55:03] <arti> you make it sound like everything is imported and nothing is exported
[01:55:16] <arti> what'si mported is cheap
[01:55:32] <crutchy> i guess there are factories
[01:55:39] <crutchy> but not as many
[01:55:53] <crutchy> US used to be an industrial powerhouse
[01:56:08] <arti> the USA has been many things
[01:56:24] <crutchy> now its the economic caboose
[01:56:24] <arti> http://www.worldstopexports.com
[01:57:42] <crutchy> http://www.tradingeconomics.com
[01:57:57] <arti> these are paid with worthless dollars right?
[01:58:55] <crutchy> not worthless yet
[01:59:09] <crutchy> but there isn't much giving it value
[01:59:46] <crutchy> only the petrodollar status, and that's a bit flakey lately (hence the US military throwing its weight around so much)
[01:59:47] <arti> hmm since i'm lazy: http://in.reuters.com
[02:00:02] <arti> crutchy, america is damned if they do and don't for interacting on the world stage
[02:00:28] <crutchy> unfortunately america is kinda backed into a corner at the moment
[02:00:43] <crutchy> like a tiger
[02:00:58] <crutchy> it will fight, but only for so long
[02:01:30] <arti> that's pretty profound
[02:01:48] <arti> i think the guys who've been fighting the longest are in the ME
[02:02:01] <crutchy> but they aren't fighting for resources
[02:02:09] <crutchy> just religious ideals
[02:02:22] <crutchy> america "needs" to fight
[02:02:31] <arti> referring to the military industrial complex?
[02:02:37] <crutchy> kinda
[02:02:44] <arti> or the petro fun
[02:03:02] <crutchy> without military might, the world would probably stop trading in US dollars
[02:03:23] <crutchy> cos they are being run off the press at such an alarming rate
[02:04:02] <crutchy> china is trading directly with a lot of countries already
[02:04:04] <chromas> We should convert to metric dollars
[02:04:13] <arti> china's currency is totally legit
[02:04:28] <crutchy> mmaybe
[02:04:30] <arti> how's those ghost cities working out
[02:04:38] <crutchy> they have been stockpiling a fuckload of gold
[02:04:58] <arti> they have to make that electronic crap with something :P
[02:05:13] <crutchy> dunno but there are plenty of cities chock full of people in china too
[02:05:24] <crutchy> they build cities like everyone else builds widgets
[02:05:30] <crutchy> bound to build too many sometimes
[02:05:41] <arti> cities, and coal powered plants :D
[02:05:48] <arti> -ed
[02:06:05] <crutchy> there are a lot of problems
[02:06:06] <arti> china has some sweet history
[02:06:14] <crutchy> they are movving a bit too fast i think
[02:06:40] <arti> i found some really neat stuff on multiplication tables from ~ 2000 years ago
[02:07:53] <crutchy> apparently aussie aboriginals were around 40,000 years ago
[02:08:04] <crutchy> kinda find that hard to imagine
[02:08:06] <arti> they invented the stick
[02:08:32] <crutchy> dunno how a culture could survive that long without developing/changing
[02:08:57] <crutchy> unless they developed nuclear fusion and then blew up everything like we will prolly do "-P
[02:09:14] <arti> do they have some other bs about them being noble until the evil white man came?
[02:09:49] <crutchy> now a lot of them are just drunk welfare bums
[02:09:55] <crutchy> and so are the aboriginals :-P
[02:10:15] <arti> sounds like some of the crappy reservations here
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[02:10:28] <arti> there's poor, and then there's that
[02:10:38] <crutchy> our current government is more conservative though so i think they starting to tighten the purse strings
[02:10:59] <arti> does aus have reparations and all that jazz?
[02:13:22] <crutchy> http://en.wikipedia.org
[02:13:27] <crutchy> reparations?
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[02:13:53] <arti> hand outs for stuff done in the past
[02:14:19] <crutchy> dunno
[02:14:50] <crutchy> the biggest fuck up in our budget is the 58 Lockheed Martin F-35 jets
[02:15:04] <arti> boondoggle
[02:15:17] <arti> crutchy, where are those made again :P
[02:15:25] <crutchy> everywhere i think
[02:15:34] <crutchy> they're prolly assembled in USA though
[02:15:50] <arti> every state gets a piece
[02:16:13] <crutchy> china prolly makes a lot of the avionics
[02:16:52] <crutchy> even though technically they're prolly not allowed to be used (by ITAR etc)
[02:17:09] <arti> ITARD
[02:17:28] <crutchy> i learnt about ITAR in my old job in aviation
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[02:19:30] <arti> is it full of awesome regulations?
[02:19:44] <Subsentient> $title http://universe2.us
[02:19:44] <aqu4> Title for page http://universe2.us: "Universe 2"
[02:19:51] <Subsentient> $help title
[02:19:51] <aqu4> [$title <required_arg(s)>]: Displays the title of an http webpage. Pages must be prefixed with http:// and https is unsupported.
[02:20:02] <crutchy> yeah its very bureaucratic and threatening
[02:20:06] <arti> $title http://meatspin.com
[02:20:07] <aqu4> Title for page http://meatspin.com: "Meatspin.com | The Site Your Mother Warned You About"
[02:20:15] <crutchy> though i dunno how well it is actually enforced
[02:20:15] <arti> $title http://lemonparty.com
[02:20:18] <aqu4> Title for page http://lemonparty.com: "403 Forbidden"
[02:20:35] <crutchy> ~isdown xkcd.com
[02:20:37] <exec> xkcd.com: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[02:20:49] <crutchy> sockets are fun :-)
[02:20:50] <arti> ~isdown crutchysguard.com
[02:20:52] <exec> crutchysguard.com: Error connecting to "crutchysguard.com".
[02:22:18] <crutchy> ~isdown facecrap.com
[02:22:19] <exec> facecrap.com: HTTP/1.1 302 Found
[02:22:34] <crutchy> ~isdown soylentnews.org
[02:22:37] <exec> soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[02:22:52] <crutchy> ~isdown sylnt.us
[02:22:53] <exec> sylnt.us: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[02:23:05] <crutchy> ~isdown irc.sylnt.us
[02:23:07] <exec> irc.sylnt.us: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[02:23:08] <Subsentient> $title http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:09] <aqu4> Title for page http://soylentnews.org: "SoylentNews: Live Free Or Die!"
[02:23:24] <crutchy> ~isdown bacon.sylnt.us
[02:23:26] <exec> bacon.sylnt.us: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[02:24:00] <Subsentient> $title http://xkcd.com
[02:24:01] <aqu4> Title for page http://xkcd.com: "xkcd: Astronaut Vandalism"
[02:24:19] <Subsentient> $title http://wz2100.net
[02:24:20] <aqu4> Title for page http://wz2100.net: "Warzone 2100: A Free And Open Source Real-Time Strategy Game"
[02:25:02] <Subsentient> My bot is intrinsically better because I wrote her in C.
[02:25:26] <crutchy> i reckon Bender is a better nick than deadpeas
[02:25:33] <crutchy> wtf is deadpeas?
[02:25:40] <Subsentient> And also because I use Epoch to control her on the three networks. That's how I restart her.
[02:25:52] <crutchy> cool
[02:26:10] <crutchy> i been trying to think of a way to remote restart exec but i'm dumb
[02:26:12] <Subsentient> epoch restart aqu4bot; epoch restart aqu4bot_soy; epoch restart aqu4bot_ootws
[02:26:13] <arti> Subsentient knows the gender from observing where the core dumps are left
[02:26:53] <Subsentient> hmm, I bet I can trick Epoch into sending itself commands
[02:26:57] <paulej72> daeadpeas came from a comment about one of the SN articles when the bot posted the title if I remember correctly
[02:26:59] <Subsentient> using ObjectOptions FORK
[02:27:00] <chromas> Also the areas she wipes after dumping
[02:27:40] <crutchy> or her forking method
[02:27:53] <arti> heh
[02:28:40] <Subsentient> crutchy: I have to ssh into my server and control it from there.
[02:29:17] <crutchy> mines a lot more low tech
[02:29:29] <crutchy> just runs in a terminal on my laptop :-P
[02:30:30] <paulej72> from 4-28
[02:30:33] <paulej72> [15:21:32] <deadbeef> [SoylentNews] - Plant-based Meat Mimic Taste Test - http://sylnt.us - Soylent-Green-is-wait-nevermind
[02:30:34] <paulej72> [15:23:27] <TK> Rename deadbeef to deadpeas
[02:30:35] <paulej72> [15:23:52] <TK> or deadpeasandplants
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[02:30:38] <paulej72> [15:35:25] <Landon> !nick deadpeasandlpants
[02:30:40] <paulej72> [15:35:26] <deadbeef> changing nick to deadpeasandlpants
[02:30:41] <paulej72> [15:35:30] deadbeef is now known as deadpeasandlpant
[02:30:42] <paulej72> [15:35:30] <deadpeasandlpant> done - nick
[02:30:43] <paulej72> [15:35:39] <Landon> !nick deadpeas
[02:31:48] * aqu4 pokes arti
[02:34:06] <paulej72> deadbeef was setup 4-10
[02:34:28] <paulej72> !bite xlefay
[02:34:28] <Bender> xlefay: Bite my shiny. metal. ass.
[02:34:46] <paulej72> that is why we have Bender
[02:35:29] <arti> what
[02:35:52] <paulej72> who
[02:35:57] <arti> WHEN
[02:36:01] * arti pokes qu4
[02:36:11] <paulej72> fail
[02:36:13] <arti> salisbury steak is one of those guilty pleasures
[02:36:30] <arti> same with veal
[02:36:52] <paulej72> not a big fan of salisbury steak. Might be how it is mis-prepared in the US.
[02:37:11] <paulej72> I can get on board with veal
[02:37:37] <arti> i don't eat a lot of veal, i'm fully aware how its made
[02:37:52] <arti> i'm down with hotdogs/schnitzel/wurst etc.
[02:38:07] <arti> i have a love hate relationship with eggs too
[02:38:22] <crutchy> cos you're familiar with how they're made?
[02:38:37] <arti> uh, it's just weird eating a giant egg of something
[02:39:05] * arti buys the brown free range organic crap
[02:39:31] <arti> and then i'll indulge in some mccrap (mcdonalds "chicken" sandwich)
[02:40:06] <paulej72> need a chicken omlette
[02:40:13] <arti> omlettes are awesome
[02:40:32] <arti> have you tried duck or goose eggs?
[02:40:36] <paulej72> southwest chick omlette
[02:40:47] <arti> is that one made by a hottie in texas?
[02:41:06] <arti> Y'all want that with cheese?
[02:41:17] <arti> texas is like it's own country
[02:41:20] <paulej72> I may have had goose eggs, as my uncle had some on his mini farm back in the day.
[02:41:27] <paulej72> en
[02:41:55] <arti> i had a few friends who grew up on property so everytime ivisited i left with cartons of eggs
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[02:46:03] <arti> :D
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[02:54:48] <crutchy> lol
[02:54:53] <crutchy> f4r++
[02:54:53] <Bender> karma - f4r: 1
[02:55:01] <crutchy> for the host
[02:59:12] <TheMightyLaptop> you ever get that thing working, crutchy?
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[03:03:41] <crutchy> i reinstalled the facebook module thingy
[03:03:46] <crutchy> i think it gaave the same error
[03:03:49] <crutchy> ~fb
[03:04:12] <crutchy> :crutchy!~crutchy@709-27-2-01.cust.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #Soylent :~fb
[03:04:13] <crutchy> perl scripts/fb.pl
[03:04:13] <crutchy> Can't locate Facebook/OpenGraph.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at scripts/fb.pl line 13.
[03:04:13] <crutchy> process terminated normally
[03:04:47] <crutchy> i prolly borked something
[03:06:04] <paulej72> Landon: ping
[03:06:15] <aqu4> pong
[03:07:10] <crutchy> maybe ping NC and start the emergency phone tree :-P
[03:07:55] <paulej72> If we only had an emergency phone tree. and NC is sleeping :)
[03:08:45] <TheMightyLaptop> crazy
[03:08:58] <crutchy> if we steal his ircd, then murphy's law stipulates that xlefay will return
[03:09:14] <crutchy> actually xlefay prolly won't give a crap if irc is hosted elsewhere
[03:09:26] <crutchy> i think he was getting pretty tired
[03:09:41] <paulej72> xlefay had plans on moving the server to carbon, but it never happened
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[03:29:47] <TheMightyLaptop> bleh, was a mild pain to set up on this laptop
[03:30:04] <TheMightyLaptop> lubuntu FML
[03:30:38] <SpallsHurgenson> that's why I always stick with WindowsME
[03:31:04] <TheMightyLaptop> yeah, i should totally switch
[03:31:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The New SpaceX Dragon V2: - http://sylnt.us - Planet-X
[03:31:20] <crutchy> TheMightyLaptop: what was a mild pain to set up?
[03:32:57] <chromas> crutchy: Linux-powered spanking machine
[03:34:46] <SpallsHurgenson> linux, laptop and pain-to-setup always go together :)
[03:34:59] <crutchy> hmm
[03:37:09] <SpallsHurgenson> stupid proprietary laptop hardware
[03:38:23] <crutchy> yeah hardware should be free
[03:39:08] <SpallsHurgenson> in every sense of the word :)
[03:40:37] <paulej72> good news and bad news. xlefay installed charybdis on carbon. bad news he did not configure it.
[03:41:02] <TheMightyLaptop> crutchy, my fb client
[03:41:41] <TheMightyLaptop> sorry, got distracted by fresh cookie goodness
[03:43:31] <crutchy> i found the facebook thing
[03:43:37] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: can you email me one :)
[03:43:44] <crutchy> under my home directory :-/
[03:43:51] <crutchy> /home/jared/perl5/lib/perl5/
[03:44:18] <TheMightyLaptop> didn't go the sudo route?
[03:44:40] <crutchy> ooh i got it working
[03:44:45] <TheMightyLaptop> nice
[03:44:54] <crutchy> Invalid App ID: YOUR_APP_ID
[03:45:03] <TheMightyLaptop> well yeah
[03:45:21] <chromas> You have to create a FB app and get an API key and stuff
[03:45:31] <chromas> create from the FB site
[03:45:35] <crutchy> oh man... interact with facebook?
[03:45:56] <TheMightyLaptop> yup, otherwise i'd have to host a server n thas just not happening for a little hack script
[03:46:05] <crutchy> ~fb
[03:46:15] <chromas> You could always scrape the mobile page :)
[03:46:56] <crutchy> scraping is not beyond my ethical standards :-P
[03:47:06] <TheMightyLaptop> feh, where's the brain hurtyness in that?
[03:47:18] <TheMightyLaptop> much more fun to figure out the fb api
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[03:52:13] <crutchy> lol it caused exec to hang
[03:52:16] <crutchy> that's novel
[03:52:39] <TheMightyLaptop> teach him
[03:52:59] <SpallsHurgenson> self-defense rather than deal with facebook?
[03:53:37] <TheMightyLaptop> i braved the api and some really badly documented perl moduleage to avoid dealing with it
[03:53:45] <TheMightyLaptop> can hardly blame a poor bot
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[04:05:58] <SpallsHurgenson> shouldn't tachyon quit before he joins?
[04:12:30] <Landon> paulej72: gnop
[04:13:48] <paulej72> Landon: kobach has lost the server and port needed to connect to the irc server and was wondering if you knew what it is?
[04:14:03] <Landon> 21:13:59 SoylentNews: irc.soylentnews.org:6697 (SoylentNews)
[04:14:15] <paulej72> thanks
[04:15:58] <paulej72> not that addres Landon, the ssh port. Sorry missed what port that was.
[04:17:15] <Landon> 22?
[04:17:18] <Landon> I dunno
[04:21:53] <paulej72> Landon: he said it was the port used to access bender
[04:22:28] <Landon> I'm not sure what he's asking for then
[04:22:37] <Landon> but I'm not fluent with the current server setup
[04:23:03] <paulej72> Landon: I guess you never had ssh access to the irc server then
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[04:30:24] <crutchy> maybe just set up a new charybdis paulej72
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[04:30:46] <crutchy> at least you'll have something
[04:30:53] <crutchy> to work with
[04:31:03] <crutchy> can set up new bender
[04:31:32] <paulej72> crutchy: I can do that easily as it seem to be ready to go, but I would love to get the config files if possible. would make things much easier
[04:32:07] <crutchy> i think config is pretty basic. can set to whatever you want, no?
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[04:32:33] * crutchy opens his charybdis conf
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[04:40:05] <Landon> crutchy: just like slashcode is a snap to set up, right :)
[04:42:09] <chromas> It is; ask poutine
[04:43:34] <crutchy> dunno. if i can set it up it can't be that bad
[04:43:44] <crutchy> i'm not a server guy
[04:44:05] <crutchy> apt-get install charybdis
[04:44:35] <chromas> error: you cannot perform this operation unless you are root.
[04:45:06] <crutchy> need to plant yourself before you can get root
[04:45:44] <crutchy> and start waterd
[04:46:02] <chromas> That's what sudo does: subterranean user do
[04:48:06] <crutchy> i didn't set up eliza or motd or anything though
[04:48:40] <crutchy> i found that on the web somewhere i think
[04:49:15] <crutchy> anope i think
[04:51:59] <crutchy> http://sourceforge.net
[04:53:45] <crutchy> actually might be this one: https://modules.anope.org
[04:55:22] <swiss> KART TIME
[04:55:31] <swiss> my mk8 just came
[04:55:50] <crutchy> this one paulej72: https://modules.anope.org
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[05:19:21] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm about to make love like a horse
[05:19:38] <Ethanol-fueled> how can i enable the audio so that yoall can hear it?
[05:20:07] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: did you say you are going to fuxk a horse
[05:20:20] <paulej72> :)
[05:20:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Acer's "Build Your Own Cloud" - http://sylnt.us - Dig-Your-Own-Hole
[05:20:32] <Ethanol-fueled> paulej72 - I'm about to slap my fat belly against a horny filipina
[05:20:47] <Ethanol-fueled> and i want to broadcast teh live audio
[05:20:56] <Ethanol-fueled> because im gonna be using the penise extender
[05:21:14] <paulej72> did you say horny filly
[05:21:16] <Ethanol-fueled> I'll toggle on the voice recorder
[05:21:28] <Ethanol-fueled> on the phone, and vocaroo it to you all later
[05:21:29] <chromas> on IRC?
[05:21:42] <Ethanol-fueled> just like i hooked you al up with
[05:21:44] <chromas> Will we get an ASCII art representation then?
[05:21:50] <Ethanol-fueled> um..what was it...imageskack
[05:22:02] <paulej72> 8==============D
[05:22:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I'm drunk as fuck and about to lay a yard of dick in a pinay.
[05:22:48] <Ethanol-fueled> i wish i had a camera setup so you all could see it in real time.
[05:23:06] <chromas> and he says "Are you gonna stick it in or type on your phone?"
[05:23:21] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas - I will voice record it.
[05:23:29] <Ethanol-fueled> and link to vocaroo later
[05:23:45] <Ethanol-fueled> i am strapping a 4-inch dick extension to my penis.
[05:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> expect this to be loud.
[05:24:13] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: so now you have 4 inces to work with :)
[05:24:23] <Ethanol-fueled> plus my biological six.
[05:24:44] <paulej72> that is what they all say.
[05:24:47] <Ethanol-fueled> I will very publicly post int in a journal or discusion
[05:25:12] <Ethanol-fueled> paulej72: my coworkers call me "the fuckmaster"
[05:25:29] <crutchy> you should try a real filipina instead of just made-in-philipines
[05:25:40] <Ethanol-fueled> but when you weild a mighty blade of ridiculous proportions,
[05:25:51] <paulej72> Ethanol-fueled: that is not why they call you that
[05:26:15] <Ethanol-fueled> paulej72: let met explain...
[05:26:35] <paulej72> http://en.wikipedia.org
[05:26:36] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: will he reciprocate?
[05:26:50] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.amazon.com
[05:27:02] <Ethanol-fueled> they make those rom 1.5 inches to 4 inches long.
[05:27:09] <Ethanol-fueled> they are the EQUALIZER
[05:27:14] <Ethanol-fueled> NSFW
[05:27:40] <Ethanol-fueled> they will bottom out women, make the squirt.
[05:27:54] <Ethanol-fueled> you will see things, friend, that you've never seen a woman do
[05:28:41] <chromas> Like scream "aaaah, my cervix!"
[05:29:17] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas - like CREAM..oh, my cervix is squirting!
[05:30:01] <chromas> not sure that's how it works
[05:30:05] <chromas> .jpg
[05:30:13] <Ethanol-fueled> fuck you.
[05:30:22] <Ethanol-fueled> I will beat you over rhre head
[05:30:32] <Ethanol-fueled> i have 3 minutes
[05:30:38] <chromas> That's what the fillipino ladyboy is about to say
[05:30:40] <Ethanol-fueled> time to preparea the extender
[05:30:50] <Ethanol-fueled> well see about that chump.
[05:31:01] <Ethanol-fueled> *shakes fist*
[05:31:27] <Ethanol-fueled> 2 minutes and counting.
[05:31:31] <chromas> Don't forget to dock
[05:31:37] <Ethanol-fueled> phone voice recorder..........activate
[05:31:55] <Ethanol-fueled> monitor power...turn off....see you in an hour or so, fellas. :)
[05:32:07] <chromas> Wait are you using the extension on yourself or him?
[05:32:26] <paulej72> 10 minutes
[05:35:25] <Ethanol-fueled> aw shit shes at the 8 freeway
[05:35:57] <Ethanol-fueled> okay, in a bit I woll record it and post teh audio to vocaroo
[05:35:58] <chromas> As in 8===D ? As in itsatrap?
[05:36:16] <Ethanol-fueled> no, ...HAHHAAH..check this out. she has a cage in her room.
[05:36:28] <Ethanol-fueled> and a full sized german shepoherd dog
[05:36:39] <chromas> Are you going for a three-way?
[05:36:51] <Ethanol-fueled> so I told her we should fuck with the dog in the cage but facing the bed
[05:36:53] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahahaha
[05:37:14] <Ethanol-fueled> sometimes the dog wa looking and drooking other times, the dog faced away with her paws covering her eyes
[05:37:24] <SpallsHurgenson> you told her this... and then rushed back to IRC to tell us what you said?
[05:37:27] <chromas> Get the dog involved; use peanut butter
[05:37:37] <Ethanol-fueled> its lshe's not herer yet. but soon she will be
[05:37:46] <chromas> SpallsHurgenson: s/her/him/
[05:37:46] <SedBot> <chromas> <SpallsHurgenson> you told him this... and then rushed back to IRC to tell us what you said?
[05:38:00] <Ethanol-fueled> okay.. voice recorder will be activated soon
[05:38:24] <Ethanol-fueled> i'll tell you when its posted to vocaroo so you all can hear filthy pinay sexxxz
[05:38:26] <crutchy> ~||=|P8===D
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[05:38:34] <SpallsHurgenson> I don't know what is less convincing, this attempt at machismo or you're constant pretending to be inebriated
[05:38:39] <Ethanol-fueled> shes coming off the 8 freeway.
[05:38:50] <Ethanol-fueled> i will deactivate the monitor soon.
[05:38:54] <crutchy> fatagram
[05:39:08] <crutchy> hope she was cheap
[05:39:23] <Ethanol-fueled> see you all in 30 or so minites fellasd
[05:39:30] <Ethanol-fueled> GODSPEED.
[05:40:08] <Ethanol-fueled> *monitor temporarily deactivated*
[05:40:15] <Ethanol-fueled> **beeeoooop!*
[05:40:15] <crutchy> 30 minute porno?
[05:40:24] <chromas> There'd better be video
[05:40:44] <crutchy> 30 minute porno?:-P
[05:40:51] <crutchy> crap
[05:40:54] <SpallsHurgenson> 30 seconds and a sock, more like it
[05:41:00] <crutchy> damn down arrow
[05:41:23] <crutchy> chromas: its his first time
[05:41:43] <chromas> Being a top?
[05:41:59] <crutchy> being with another human
[05:42:22] <crutchy> of the organic variety :-P
[05:44:00] <chromas> $burrito Ethanol-fueled
[05:44:03] <chromas> ^ Extension
[05:44:58] <crutchy> hes gunna do her and shes gunna fall in love with the penis extender
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[05:47:40] <chromas> or use it on him
[05:49:35] <crutchy> or he'll beg her to use it on him
[05:50:11] <chromas> crutchy: s/her/him/
[05:50:11] <SedBot> <chromas> <crutchy> or he'll beg him to use it on him
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[05:56:22] <paulej72> crutchy and chromas you are scaring away the users
[05:56:55] <crutchy> i'm using ping timeout powers :-P
[05:57:04] <chromas> It's alright, users, here; have some bacon
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[06:20:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> damned fool power outages
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[06:45:54] <Ethanol-fueled> ugh.
[06:45:58] <Ethanol-fueled> went terrible
[06:46:55] <Ethanol-fueled> crazy bitch is stalking.
[06:47:20] <chromas> Did he want to be the top this time?
[06:47:25] <Ethanol-fueled> HAHAHAH
[06:47:26] <chromas> It's okay to be a power bottom
[06:48:57] <Subsentient> NCommander: op aqu4.
[06:49:05] <Subsentient> $burrito NCommander
[06:49:06] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at NCommander
[06:49:28] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Drunk off our asses are we?
[06:56:58] <Ethanol-fueled> no, i found out she was stalking me.
[06:57:17] <Ethanol-fueled> I had to tell her that it was inappropriate and that she was just finding excuses to stall and keep me around.
[06:57:21] <crutchy> or she was stalking your extension :-P
[06:57:27] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I wish.
[06:57:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Things would be a lot less complicated if that were the case. \
[06:57:53] <Ethanol-fueled> it was a lot of crying and drawn-out bullshit.
[06:58:22] <crutchy> i thought that was what facebook was for
[06:59:04] <Ethanol-fueled> crutchy: I don;t DO facebook, and neither should you :)
[06:59:48] <crutchy> lol i don't do facebook, but it's an outlet for women to get things off their chests
[07:00:04] <Ethanol-fueled> the funny thing is, she was crying as my extention and a tube of lube were sitting prominently on my desk, and it was hard to be sad.
[07:00:42] <crutchy> did you have a porno playing on the tv?
[07:00:54] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: So you're sober?
[07:01:20] <crutchy> Ethanol-fueled: s/hard to be sad/sad to be hard/
[07:01:21] <SedBot> <crutchy> <Ethanol-fueled> the funny thing is, she was crying as my extention and a tube of lube were sitting prominently on my desk, and it was sad to be hard.
[07:02:09] <Ethanol-fueled> subsentient: no, i am drunk as fuck. Started with a 22 oz bottle of Asahi at 3pm, went on to downing 1.5 Liters of Barefoot Pino Grigiot after that, now nippin' on Dos Equis left over from the Sunday Morning Soylent News IRC Rampage
[07:02:41] <crutchy> bender++
[07:02:41] <Bender> karma - bender: -13
[07:02:56] <Ethanol-fueled> WHY IS BENDER NEGATIVE KARMA?!!!!!!1!!!!
[07:03:00] <Ethanol-fueled> bender++
[07:03:00] <Bender> karma - bender: -12
[07:03:14] <Ethanol-fueled> GYARRRRrrrrRRGHHHH!
[07:03:14] <crutchy> cos it kept changing nicks
[07:04:56] <Subsentient> bender++
[07:04:56] <Bender> karma - bender: -11
[07:05:08] <aqu4> bender++
[07:05:08] <crutchy> !whodown bender
[07:05:08] <Bender> downers of bender are: d33tah: -13, mattie_p: -2, xlefay: -2, Subsentient: -1, stderr: -1, KibiByte: -1, andrew: -1, kobach: -1
[07:05:15] <aqu4> bender++
[07:05:17] <Subsentient> bender++
[07:05:17] <Bender> karma - bender: -10
[07:05:17] <Subsentient> bender++
[07:05:17] <Bender> karma - bender: -9
[07:05:17] <Subsentient> bender++
[07:05:17] <Bender> karma - bender: -8
[07:05:26] <Ethanol-fueled> niggers++
[07:05:26] <Bender> karma - niggers: 2
[07:05:29] <aqu4> Discriminator!
[07:05:41] <aqu4> Meant Bender, not Ethanol-fueled
[07:05:48] <aqu4> bender++
[07:05:53] <aqu4> ... nothing
[07:05:58] <Ethanol-fueled> WOW. The bad-stereotype Blacks have more karma than Bender.
[07:06:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Now that's fucking filthy. FILTHY.
[07:06:19] <Ethanol-fueled> BME++
[07:06:19] <Bender> karma - bme: 1
[07:06:19] <aqu4> Just like your mother's vibrator
[07:06:48] <aqu4> With all the llama hair and cream cheese
[07:06:55] <Ethanol-fueled> aqu4: my mom didn't have a vibrator, she slept with Blacks...and Whites...hell, everything with a penis.
[07:07:19] <aqu4> That explains the cream cheese
[07:07:32] <Ethanol-fueled> aqu4: That was femenine smegma.
[07:07:56] <Ethanol-fueled> but did it taste savoury to your refined and sophisticated palate?
[07:08:09] <aqu4> No but your cat seemed to like it
[07:08:20] <Ethanol-fueled> As Frank Zappa used to say -- " Not a speck of cereal "
[07:08:57] * Subsentient high fives aqu4
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[07:09:09] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine--
[07:09:10] <Bender> karma - poutine: -339
[07:09:13] * aqu4 high fives Subsentient back
[07:09:55] <aqu4> Ethanol-fueled For everyone's benefit, lay off the sauce. You come here and act like an ass and wonder why we throw old burritos at you
[07:09:57] <soylentpoutine> So.. When is the name going to change?
[07:09:59] soylentpoutine is now known as poutine
[07:10:09] <poutine> Why indeterminate timelines?
[07:10:28] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine - I hate you.
[07:10:42] <aqu4> poutine: Because lkj3erflkj3erflkjerfvkljeerf
[07:10:43] <Ethanol-fueled> GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY BREAD-LINE
[07:11:01] <Subsentient> NCommander:
[07:11:09] <aqu4> NCommander:
[07:11:47] <Ethanol-fueled> What does "Ncommander" mean?
[07:12:01] <crutchy> MCommander was taken
[07:12:12] <aqu4> It means N number of commanders.
[07:12:44] <Ethanol-fueled> that makes me angry. Proof by induction is for faggots.
[07:13:03] <Ethanol-fueled> For every n commander, there is an (n + 1) commander
[07:13:07] <aqu4> Says the guy who tried to bone a filipino shemale
[07:13:08] <poutine> Your mother is a filthy herpes laden skank that will allow a cadre of dunkin donuts worker to have unprotected sex with her anal corridor
[07:13:13] <poutine> Ethanol-fueled
[07:13:35] <Ethanol-fueled> aqu4: that was emotionally draining. Now I'm going to have to deal with the fallout when I'm sober.
[07:13:54] <Ethanol-fueled> she's the one who told me intimate details about the NSA.
[07:14:08] <poutine> It is not immediately obvious which name won the vote, when it will be changed, etc
[07:14:13] <poutine> why are these answers not easier to find?
[07:14:23] * aqu4 gives Ethanol-fueled a pitcher of black coffee strong enough to grow hair on your chest and then turn the hair to maggots
[07:14:30] <Ethanol-fueled> poutin: you are correcy, my mom did have herpes. Fortunately, she didn't pass it to me when I slid out the snizz.
[07:15:15] <poutine> That's a shame
[07:15:30] <aqu4> NCommander:
[07:15:32] <poutine> we didn't have the luck of SIDS affecting you either
[07:15:49] <Ethanol-fueled> poutin: I was infected with this instead: http://www.youtube.com
[07:16:00] <aqu4> poutine: Hate is so fucking useless.
[07:16:30] <Ethanol-fueled> I did almost die years ago, back in 2006.
[07:16:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Wrapped the car around a tree, BAC was .314
[07:17:14] <Ethanol-fueled> Nothing like a near-death experience to make one appreciate life.
[07:18:31] <aqu4> Ethanol-fueled: And how you waste it
[07:19:39] <Ethanol-fueled> aqu4 - I didn't decide not to drink anymore, I decided I should drink less :)
[07:19:48] <Ethanol-fueled> at those levels, you shit neon green.
[07:20:26] <Ethanol-fueled> and have a weel-long hangover....not to mention almost dying, with a fat steering-column bruise to the heart and slide-up-to-the-dashboard knee bruises.
[07:21:07] <Ethanol-fueled> But its a good thing - you really appreciate life after an experience like that.
[07:21:09] <aqu4> Ethanol-fueled: Yeah you might want to stop drinking permanently. Like, forever.
[07:21:49] <Ethanol-fueled> You appreciate the simple things, like sunsets, and the first juicy bite into a ripe peach, and hot baths...\
[07:22:38] <Subsentient> $part
[07:22:38] <aqu4> Ok. Assuming you mean this channel.
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[07:22:48] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: You are wasting your life.
[07:22:59] <Subsentient> Your
[07:22:59] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient: aren't we all?
[07:23:03] <Subsentient> No.
[07:23:09] <Subsentient> No.
[07:23:14] <Subsentient> ....No.
[07:23:30] <poutine> Subsentient, He is seeking attention and you're giving him it just how he likes it
[07:23:52] <Ethanol-fueled> YES! Give it to ME how I LIKE IT, baby!
[07:23:59] <Ethanol-fueled> UP THE SHIT-ASS
[07:24:05] <Ethanol-fueled> UNH!
[07:24:08] <Ethanol-fueled> UNH!
[07:24:11] <Subsentient> poutine: He's not a hyper kid, he's a drunken monkey,
[07:24:47] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I saw your post on mother's day. It was fucking beautiful.
[07:24:49] <poutine> For some of us, life is perfect. If your life is miserable, it likely will remain that way. Enjoy your downward spiral, it does not get better from here. You're not getting younger and more attractive.
[07:25:14] <Subsentient> poutine: Have you ever considered getting into greeting cards?
[07:25:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient: I have one for father's day as well.
[07:25:58] <Ethanol-fueled> I will release it within a day or two of father's day, which is June 16th in Amurrica
[07:26:10] <Subsentient> ahh
[07:26:11] <Ethanol-fueled> It is serious. And it will make you cry even more.
[07:26:22] <poutine> Normal people have a difficult time rising above mediocrity, add alcohol, drugs, psychological issues, a poor upbringing, poverty, etc, and you have yourselves a recipe for a terrible life
[07:26:44] <Ethanol-fueled> poutine: I'm NOT normal, motherfucker. Bwahahahahahahahh!H!H!H!H!H!
[07:26:57] <Subsentient> poutine: You should be a motivational speaker at a self help seminar! My god, your words are inspiring, insightful, and make me
[07:27:01] <Subsentient> want to get up each day!
[07:27:09] * JamesNZ normalises Ethanol-fueled
[07:28:19] <Subsentient> poutine: My sanity has been questioned by others as well as myself, I'm somewhat poor but not horribly so, but I don
[07:28:21] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ - A census taker tried to quantify me once. I ate his liver with some fave beans and a big Amarone' .
[07:28:25] <Subsentient> don't touch drugs/booze etc
[07:28:32] <Subsentient> I don't**
[07:28:54] <poutine> Ethanol-fueled, that's so zany and edgy
[07:28:55] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: Haha, I get that reference :D
[07:28:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient -- that's too bad. Those things are what make life fun.
[07:29:08] <poutine> I've never seen a silence of the lambs reference in the wild
[07:29:18] <Subsentient> Funny, I covered mine in nutella and wrapped him in masking tape, stuck a stamp on him, and tried to mail him to greenland.
[07:29:19] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: Though I prefer chianti myself.
[07:29:46] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ: It was "Chianti" in the movie probably to make it more accessable to the layman...
[07:30:01] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: :P
[07:30:38] <Ethanol-fueled> But that's one of the things that a serious nerd could appreciate about the Novel Lecter - He believed that some people were too chaotic to "quantify" like Google would do
[07:31:08] <Ethanol-fueled> That Lecter resisted it to the very end, being "profiled" and "quantified"
[07:31:22] <JamesNZ> I've never actually seen the movies or read the books.
[07:31:33] <JamesNZ> Just clips on on YT...
[07:32:51] <Subsentient> I am the neckbeard who shaves his neckbeard. I am when you lose the remote and find it in your pocket. I am the rat that watches you from under your seat. Don't look. I'm the guy who plants talking onions in your toilet to startle you when you go to crap at midnight. I'm the guy who makes a hot air balloon out of duct tape and flies to Sirius B just to work on my blue tan.
[07:32:55] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ: The movie Hannibal was kinda "meh" but the book is nuts -- it goes into detail about how the main antagonist sodomized his little sister with chocolate bars as a kid.
[07:33:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Seriously fucked up shit...and it introduces that "little" sister as "a woman who taped her clitoris between her legs"
[07:34:25] <Ethanol-fueled> There's a reference to the Black orderly Barney taking a shower with her, and a "catenary strand" of his semen hanging from her belly as he touches his boner to her in the shower.....
[07:34:37] <Ethanol-fueled> and, her being a dyke, she BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF HIM for it
[07:34:40] <Ethanol-fueled> Hhahahaahahaha
[07:34:48] <JamesNZ> Hmmm. Not sure if I would enjoy that book.
[07:35:06] <Subsentient> Fairly certain I'd unleash the undead gerbil swarm on the publisher.
[07:35:19] * Subsentient unleashes the gerbils
[07:35:26] <JamesNZ> As long as you don't unleash 'em on me :D
[07:35:48] <Ethanol-fueled> JamesNZ , Subsentient, it was a good book -- and for all the evil in it you read, there IS poetic justice. THe bad guys die, and horribly.
[07:36:44] <Ethanol-fueled> Krendler gets his BRAIN EATEN while he is alive, and the book goes into great detail about how his cognitive functions degrade the more his brain is eaten....
[07:37:09] <Subsentient> NCommander:
[07:37:35] <Subsentient> Moooom! There's a creepy guy talking about eating brains!
[07:37:42] <Subsentient> NCommander:
[07:38:03] <arti> it's only really dangerous when they want to wear your skin
[07:38:07] * Subsentient pokes Landon, mattie_p, crutchy, chromas, and asks ssomeone to OP aqu4.
[07:38:11] <arti> maybe its his way of saying you've got an open mind?
[07:38:13] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: That kinda gives me the impression that the author put that in there just for the horror factor rather than to actually advance the plot :|
[07:38:32] <crutchy> i'm not an op here Subsentient
[07:38:34] <Subsentient> That sounds like the kind of book that's only good as a nuclear test target.
[07:39:35] <crutchy> why do you need op for aqu4 though?
[07:39:53] <crutchy> oh that's right... world domination :-P
[07:40:00] <poutine> I have been known to sometimes admire my fecal matter for several minutes after a successful bowel movement. I have, on occasion, retrieved my own feces from the toilet if it were truly that great of a specimen. A few of those times I have frozen the FM in the freezer, and once or twice of those times I have reinserted and let thaw, and re-evacuated my bowels
[07:40:04] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[07:40:26] <crutchy> holy shit
[07:40:30] <crutchy> err
[07:40:37] <crutchy> maybe that was the wrong expression
[07:40:37] <JamesNZ> Ethanol-fueled: Uhhh no thanks O_o
[07:40:45] * Subsentient is really glad that I don
[07:40:53] <Subsentient> don't click google/youtube links
[07:41:09] <crutchy> poutine--
[07:41:09] <Bender> karma - poutine: -340
[07:41:22] <poutine> I cannot be the only one
[07:41:41] <Subsentient> I
[07:41:45] <Subsentient> I would say...
[07:41:53] <Subsentient> who pooped in your poutine, but that would be you.
[07:42:45] <Ethanol-fueled> JHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[07:43:09] <crutchy> i wouldn't give it an acronym... that makes it sound more like more than just an occasional reference
[07:43:18] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Haha, I didn't click the link! I don't touch Google stuff.
[07:43:33] <Ethanol-fueled> Subsentient - read teh book then.
[07:44:12] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Bleh.
[07:44:21] <Ethanol-fueled> they drug up an asshole, cut pieces off his brain, and eat them while describing the cognitive degredation from cutting the guy;s brain piecemeal.
[07:44:26] * Subsentient launches an antimatter missile at the book
[07:44:33] <JamesNZ> Yuck.
[07:45:04] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I might have to upgrade to hyperelectric missiles.
[07:45:05] <crutchy> sounds like a tarantino movie plot
[07:45:12] <Ethanol-fueled> But they cook it tableside, poaching the brain pieces in lemon-juice before dipping them in breadcrumbs
[07:45:42] <Ethanol-fueled> they sweat shallots beforehand, and prepare melted butter! It's all so deliciously descriptive!
[07:46:19] <JamesNZ> See, that kind of violence serves no point except to horrify the reader.
[07:46:36] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: I'm going to grind those books up, and sell them to Kraft to mark as "cellulose" in their cream cheese.
[07:46:53] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: XD
[07:47:21] <Ethanol-fueled> sup arti!
[07:47:28] <Subsentient> What? You didn't know you're eating liquified wood in your dairy?
[07:48:27] <Subsentient> arti: Quick, hide.
[07:49:13] <Ethanol-fueled> I need to reload. I have 1 trip to the liquor store left after soaking the 6 or so Dos Equis sitting in muh fridge.
[07:49:30] <Subsentient> Dude lay off the booze
[07:49:37] <Subsentient> You're creepy enough sober
[07:50:22] <Ethanol-fueled> subeentient - Yes momma, should I drink my milk and eat my green-beans too?
[07:51:08] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: Yes but remember to eat your wood chips with your milk.
[07:51:44] <Ethanol-fueled> subsentient- gimme a fat bag of Mesquite chips and we're on.
[07:52:02] <Subsentient> lol
[07:52:25] <Ethanol-fueled> cooking by campfire is awesome.
[07:53:18] <Subsentient> Ethanol-fueled: http://universe2.us
[07:54:04] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
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[08:11:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Fuck y'all motherfuckers.
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[08:19:57] <arti> greetings
[08:20:11] <chromas> 'sup arti
[08:20:21] <arti> salutations
[08:21:27] <chromas> Got pretty quiet inhere
[08:21:37] <arti> they must all be out getting a smoke
[08:29:19] <Ethanol-fueled> suck my dick mothrruckers
[08:29:24] <Ethanol-fueled> motherfuckers
[08:29:37] * arti raises glass
[08:29:44] <Ethanol-fueled> I will get a smoke...a MARIJUANA SMOKE.
[08:29:48] <chromas> If you were really drunk it would've taken you more tries to fix it
[08:29:53] <Ethanol-fueled> yeah. YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH
[08:30:23] bypassing_subs_illegitimate_ba is now known as monopoly
[08:30:43] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[08:30:54] <Ethanol-fueled> Video game nerds jam out
[08:31:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Marijuana rocks.
[08:31:51] <chromas> I think you mean crack rocks
[08:31:56] <Ethanol-fueled> motherfuckers had 8 bits back in the day.
[08:31:59] <chromas> Marijuana buds
[08:32:06] <boioioing> ~rainbow crack rocks
[08:32:16] <boioioing> damn, no exec
[08:32:17] <chromas> exec not found
[08:32:53] <crutchy> updating the admin authentication atm
[08:32:59] <crutchy> almost done :-)
[08:33:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Terminators ran offuh 6502 assembly language
[08:33:07] <Ethanol-fueled> Link" http://www.pagetable.com
[08:34:21] <chromas> Is that the filipino ladyboy's view outside your house?
[08:35:40] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas: sug my dig motherfucker.
[08:36:03] * chromas doesn't take extensions
[08:36:04] <crutchy> chromas: got something new for you to break :-P
[08:36:42] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: I think aqu4/Subsentient has a burrito extention for you
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[08:37:00] <Ethanol-fueled> chromas: let them suck it.
[08:37:07] <Ethanol-fueled> i'm about to walk out
[08:37:24] <chromas> Then it's about to get dead quiet in here
[08:37:33] <arti> just keep listening to the echos
[08:37:35] <boioioing> ~rainbow sug my dig motherfucker.
[08:37:36] <exec> 00,02s00,06u00,04g00,07 00,08m00,09y00,12 00,02d00,06i00,04g00,07 00,08m00,09o00,12t00,02h00,06e00,04r00,07f00,08u00,09c00,12k00,02e00,06r00,04.
[08:37:56] <Ethanol-fueled> fukc you arti, suck my niggerdick you faggot.
[08:38:00] <chromas> needs some foreground colorchanging
[08:38:24] <Ethanol-fueled> exec looks like 90's era leisure suit larry.
[08:38:34] <chromas> Ethanol-fueled: s/nigger/mulatto/
[08:38:37] <Ethanol-fueled> nigger++
[08:38:37] <Bender> karma - nigger: 1
[08:38:43] <Ethanol-fueled> nigger+
[08:38:47] <Ethanol-fueled> Nigger+
[08:39:05] <Ethanol-fueled> dis shits rigged.
[08:39:12] <Ethanol-fueled> i gots proof.
[08:39:16] <chromas> Syntax error
[08:39:18] <Ethanol-fueled> nigger++
[08:39:18] <Bender> karma - nigger: 2
[08:39:40] <Ethanol-fueled> you cocksuckers,
[08:39:44] <Ethanol-fueled> nigger++
[08:39:44] <Bender> karma - nigger: 3
[08:39:59] <Ethanol-fueled> datsracist--
[08:39:59] <Bender> karma - datsracist: -1
[08:40:07] <Ethanol-fueled> datsracist--
[08:40:07] <Bender> karma - datsracist: -2
[08:40:10] <arti> hamplanet++
[08:40:10] <Bender> karma - hamplanet: 1
[08:40:14] <Ethanol-fueled> datsracist--
[08:40:14] <Bender> karma - datsracist: -3
[08:40:30] <Ethanol-fueled> arti is a goddamn nigger.
[08:40:34] <Ethanol-fueled> NIGGERS
[08:40:38] <arti> NAGGERS
[08:41:05] <Ethanol-fueled> arti: hamplanets pussies SMELL GOOD
[08:41:16] <Ethanol-fueled> *SNIFF* MMMMM
[08:41:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Bwahahhaahhaha
[08:41:54] <arti> like maple bacon
[08:42:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Steve Ballmer to Buy the L.A. Clippers - http://sylnt.us - Luckiest-Dorm-Assignment-Ever
[08:42:52] <Ethanol-fueled> http://www.youtube.com
[08:43:04] <chromas> from the chair-flew-over-the-cuckoos-nest dept
[08:43:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Now THAT is Captain AMERICA
[08:44:27] <arti> seems legit
[08:44:35] <Ethanol-fueled> it IS legit.
[08:44:52] <Ethanol-fueled> I played that bitch as a kid in ROund table Pizza
[08:45:02] <arti> i liked the simpsons game
[08:45:07] * arti has been enjoying metal slug
[08:45:36] <Ethanol-fueled> metal slug rocks.
[08:45:49] <Ethanol-fueled> they're all programmed by jews.
[08:45:56] <Ethanol-fueled> HOT jews.
[08:46:33] <chromas> I know foreclosures get me going
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[08:51:35] <exec> wb SedBot!
[08:51:35] <exec> exec sed disabled
[08:57:48] juggs is now known as juggs|afk
[09:00:14] <Ethanol-fueled> suckmydick++
[09:00:14] <Bender> karma - suckmydick: 1
[09:00:25] <Ethanol-fueled> damn.
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[10:32:11] <NCommander> Ugh
[10:32:15] <NCommander> That was incredibly irritating
[10:32:36] <arti> ?
[10:32:37] <chromas> Couldn't get the car in Soylent Red?
[10:32:52] <NCommander> Had some large breakage on helium doing ubuntu system upgrade
[10:32:56] <arti> :(
[10:35:07] <arti> this might get your mind off of it: https://www.youtube.com
[10:39:37] <crutchy> i borked my bot
[10:39:57] <arti> bork bork bork
[10:41:26] <chromas> Time to start over
[10:41:31] <chromas> In Delphi this time :-D
[10:41:45] <crutchy> ew windows
[10:41:52] <chromas> fpc?
[10:42:02] <crutchy> lazarus maybe
[10:42:13] <chromas> There used to be a gcc front end but it's abandoned
[10:42:14] <NCommander> I'd kill for a non-shit directory service
[10:42:30] <crutchy> a bot compiled with lazarus might give ol' aqu4 a run for its money :-P
[10:42:37] <chromas> NCommander: I don't think you'll be murdering any time soon then
[10:43:23] <crutchy> pardon my stupidness, but what's a directory service?
[10:43:57] <chromas> Something of which there are no non-shit ones
[10:44:31] <NCommander> LDAP/etc.
[10:44:57] <chromas> Maybe emacs has something
[10:45:06] <crutchy> is that a program that manages the config & authentication of a bunch of other programs?
[10:45:47] <crutchy> i think you or xlefay has tried to teach me about this shit before but my brain is thick
[10:45:55] <f4r> [12:55:20] <crutchy> f4r++
[10:45:56] <f4r> [12:55:21] <Bender> karma - f4r: 1
[10:46:00] <f4r> wat
[10:46:17] <crutchy> i was adding you to a hit list
[10:46:30] <f4r> you're not the first :)
[10:46:49] * f4r adjusts his "King awesome" crown
[10:46:52] <chromas> Unlike the others, he'll be the last
[10:47:06] <f4r> o-oh
[10:47:10] * chromas activates dramatic sting
[10:47:10] * f4r worries
[10:48:03] * crutchy wishes he could program something useful for soylent, but there's prolly nothing useful that he can program
[10:48:14] <chromas> So f4r, router?
[10:48:24] <f4r> just an ISP freebie
[10:48:25] <crutchy> just automation of troll activities :-P
[10:48:35] <f4r> has a bad habit of overheating and resetting
[10:48:38] <chromas> crutchy: you could reimplement the entire web site
[10:48:56] <crutchy> f4r... try turning the wireless off and standing it upright
[10:49:08] <crutchy> i had a old linksys that used to overheat a lot
[10:49:29] <f4r> It's already down to the bare PCB with an 80mm fan on top of it
[10:49:36] <crutchy> lmao
[10:49:52] <crutchy> $40 dude
[10:49:54] <chromas> Modern home routers need water cooling
[10:50:19] <f4r> doing that made it go from resetting once every couple of hours to once every couple of weeks
[10:50:33] <crutchy> especially the ones that google hijacks for bitcoin mining
[10:50:37] <chromas> How's your electric bill?
[10:50:41] <f4r> this cheap piece of junk does
[10:50:45] <f4r> average
[10:50:54] <f4r> considering I have 2 PCs running 24/7
[10:51:10] <f4r> desktop stays on for reasons plus I have a home server
[10:51:30] <f4r> just an old P4 but it does the job for FTP and eggdrops
[10:51:38] <crutchy> i have a server and a couple of little nas boxes 24/7 but i turn others off cos they do make a difference
[10:52:29] <f4r> I also rely on my PCs for heating my room
[10:52:35] <crutchy> have you tried sticking your router in the freezer and drilling a little hole in the size for the power cord?
[10:52:44] <crutchy> s/z/d/
[10:52:44] <SedBot> <crutchy> have you tried sticking your router in the freeder and drilling a little hole in the size for the power cord?
[10:52:52] <crutchy> /facepalm
[10:52:59] <NCommander> Ok, fluorine is back up
[10:53:00] <f4r> no I have not, and I doubt I will
[10:53:05] <NCommander> helium crying in the fucking corner -_-;
[10:53:11] <chromas> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[10:53:30] <f4r> many a time
[10:53:30] <NCommander> chromas, yeah, I'm not clear why it refuses to boot
[10:53:31] * crutchy imagines NCommander talking in a really high pitch voice
[10:53:32] <NCommander> hangs in POST
[10:53:46] <f4r> that just makes it take even longer to bring up the ADSL link
[10:53:47] <crutchy> try GET
[10:53:50] * crutchy hides
[10:53:51] <chromas> NCommander: is it playing REM?
[10:54:14] <chromas> that's helium in the spotlight, losing its religion
[10:54:21] <f4r> for a manual restart, it's not too uncommon for it to take 5 minutes to bring it up
[10:54:52] * crutchy needs to unbork his stupid bot
[10:55:23] <chromas> Maybe it needs a cold boot
[10:55:45] <f4r> tried that, same deal
[10:55:49] <chromas> My router goes senile sometimes and has to be off for several minutes or it just won't work
[10:55:51] <f4r> left it off for like half an hour
[10:56:16] <f4r> it's just cheap junk but I'm too lazy to buy a new one because it works most of the time
[10:56:18] <chromas> Does your router run helium?
[10:56:32] <f4r> n-no
[10:56:46] <chromas> one of the soylent nodes
[10:57:12] <chromas> they're named after gasses with nobility
[10:57:35] <f4r> soylent has nodes?
[10:57:41] <f4r> bigger than I thought
[10:58:35] <chromas> Not sure of the distribution but there are several, including, apparently, one that's sulking with its nose to the wall
[10:58:54] <crutchy> that's probably ubuntu
[10:58:57] * crutchy hides again
[10:59:12] <f4r> heh, I was just about to ask what OS/distro they run
[10:59:17] <chromas> It got confused switching to systemd
[10:59:24] * chromas wonders what will become of upstart
[10:59:42] <crutchy> it's being superseded by upchuck
[10:59:53] <chromas> "Ladies..."
[11:00:16] <chromas> oh yeah, Daria's on hulu; I should be watching that
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[11:03:06] <crutchy> hi konomi :-)
[11:03:44] <NCommander> chromas, not sure
[11:03:46] <crutchy> ~q
[11:03:52] <NCommander> It gives me a few lines in grub then fails
[11:03:56] <crutchy> oops
[11:04:10] <chromas> it's a virtual machine, though, right?
[11:04:15] <crutchy> is there a failover?
[11:04:32] <crutchy> chromas: it's pretend
[11:04:51] * chromas suggests…opensuse
[11:04:57] <KonomiNetbook> hey
[11:05:03] * chromas flies away in the roflcopter
[11:05:08] <crutchy> ms-dos 6.22
[11:05:19] <f4r> plan9
[11:05:29] <crutchy> amiga os
[11:05:45] <chromas> Commodore Basic. If it doesn't work, just keep trying until it does
[11:05:51] <JamesNZ> crutchy: 'roflcopter' needs to be in the dictionary.
[11:05:54] <chromas> ^in the manual
[11:06:02] <crutchy> ~define-add
[11:06:11] <crutchy> when my stupid bot decides to work
[11:07:06] * JamesNZ makes a note of that command
[11:24:51] <NCommander> crutchy, there is
[11:24:56] <NCommander> Which is why the site is still up
[11:26:03] <crutchy> cool
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[11:55:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - House Votes for Medical Pot - http://sylnt.us - High-Office
[11:59:15] <NCommander> helium refuses to boot no matter what I do
[11:59:15] <NCommander> ugh
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[12:19:19] <crutchy> is there a support number you can call? i know its ungeeky, but prolly easier than fucking around with it
[12:21:05] <chromas> 800-wtf-soab
[12:23:29] <chromas> sudo aptitude in gummiboot
[12:23:43] <NCommander> crutchy, yeah, I'm going to do that now
[12:45:44] <crutchy> i think i'm getting there chromas
[12:46:35] <crutchy> i should be able to tweak it to make whois authentication easier from scripts too
[12:46:53] <chromas> woo!
[12:50:07] <NCommander> paulej72, helium is completely and totally fucked
[12:50:27] <chromas> Do you get snapshots or anything?
[12:50:32] <NCommander> paulej72, I did some quick config changes on boron to allow slash to run (basically reordered its DNS/LDAP server list to point at itself first) which got the site partially defucked
[12:50:43] <NCommander> chromas, I have one for helium pre-upgrade
[12:50:48] <NCommander> Rather not revert if I can avoid it though
[12:51:03] <chromas> Can you diff /boot or something?
[12:51:51] <NCommander> chromas, I think the problem is with linode
[12:51:54] <NCommander> They disagree
[12:51:57] <chromas> ah
[12:52:07] <crutchy> just fry the whole thing and start again with it
[12:52:10] <crutchy> erm sorry
[12:52:16] <crutchy> "nuke the node from orbit"
[12:52:21] <crutchy> ...
[12:52:49] <crutchy> slicker and snot
[12:53:23] <crutchy> s/and/than/
[12:53:23] <SedBot> <crutchy> slicker than snot
[12:53:44] <crutchy> sorry the abyss is almost as cool as aliens
[12:56:04] <crutchy> NCommander... when you called them did you play dumb?
[12:56:31] <NCommander> crutchy, I filed an online ticket, and you don't need to play dumb with linode
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[12:57:04] <crutchy> what's lost on helium?
[12:57:12] * crutchy has nfi what helium is
[12:57:24] <crutchy> dev or something?
[12:57:50] <chromas> It's where they store their Melodyne projects
[12:58:02] <crutchy> ~define melodyne
[12:58:14] <chromas> aw
[12:58:18] <chromas> try $ddg
[12:58:26] <crutchy> oops
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[12:58:40] <crutchy> ~define melodyne
[12:58:42] <exec> [urbandictionary] melodyne: Audio software similar to autotune for editing of timing and pitch correction.
[12:58:52] <chromas> I wouldn't say similar
[12:58:56] <NCommander> crutchy, LDAP master/Kerberos master
[12:59:11] <chromas> oh shit; so all the authentication stuff
[12:59:15] <NCommander> I did some fast config edits on the production cluster to keep slashd going
[12:59:24] <NCommander> chromas, it failed over, as did the DNS server
[12:59:36] <NCommander> BUT when we're in failover, it creates a huge latency for reasons we haven't been able to debug
[12:59:42] <NCommander> THe site itself is ok
[12:59:44] <NCommander> slashd shits itself
[12:59:46] <NCommander> SO things break
[12:59:51] <crutchy> that's ok though right? just means you have to auth on individual servers right? or is the key shit all weirded out now
[13:00:03] <NCommander> crutchy, everything is as it normally is. Just very very slow
[13:00:13] <crutchy> ahh so more my speed :-P
[13:00:32] <chromas> NCommander: maybe somebody bumped the Turbo button
[13:00:37] <crutchy> lol
[13:00:46] <crutchy> and it actually worked
[13:00:57] <chromas> It's a time paradox. Turbo makes slow
[13:01:16] <chromas> old games
[13:01:29] <crutchy> need xlefay back
[13:01:34] <crutchy> he knows all that shit
[13:01:50] <crutchy> he tried to explain some to me but i just thought of ponies
[13:02:07] <crutchy> sublight is fucking awesome though
[13:02:21] <crutchy> with extra fucking on top
[13:03:14] <crutchy> not that i would ever admin something like soylent, but if it was my home server i'd just first birthday the thing
[13:03:39] <crutchy> (i always keep data on separate disks from the OS)
[13:04:18] <crutchy> ~join ##
[13:04:31] <crutchy> ~join #staff
[13:04:34] <chromas> Mmm, cake
[13:04:48] <crutchy> ~join #wiki
[13:04:59] <crutchy> ~join #>
[13:05:16] <crutchy> ~join #
[13:05:44] <crutchy> still nothing on xanlan
[13:05:51] <NCommander> Ok
[13:05:53] <NCommander> I got it to boot
[13:05:55] <NCommander> but ...
[13:06:02] <NCommander> THAT was a hack
[13:06:09] <chromas> Did you have to switch between UEFI and BIOS?
[13:06:21] <crutchy> cool :-)
[13:06:41] * NCommander reboots it to see if its actually fixed
[13:06:43] * crutchy is ashamed
[13:06:54] <NCommander> I had to drop to init=/bin/bash, then do shit there before init would fire
[13:07:24] <crutchy> i wouldn't have the patience for that. good one *thumbs up*
[13:07:35] <NCommander> YEah, ok, its still hanging regularly
[13:07:40] <NCommander> Odd
[13:07:49] <chromas> run memtest86+
[13:07:55] <NCommander> chromas, its a bloody VM
[13:08:20] <chromas> memtest86+ with vbox additions
[13:08:25] <NCommander> ....
[13:08:39] <chromas> I wonder if other VMs on that box are troubled
[13:08:56] <crutchy> sudo rm /etc/init.d
[13:11:27] <crutchy> maybe the host os is windows 98
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[13:12:57] * chromas seems to recall Windows used to have a startx.exe
[13:13:16] <NCommander> eAppears I flushed out a bug in ubuntu
[13:13:56] <chromas> init related?
[13:14:01] <NCommander> possibly
[13:14:33] <crutchy> isn't init.d debian?
[13:14:39] <crutchy> init
[13:15:07] <chromas> systemctl stop borking
[13:15:24] <crutchy> what did you do before it borked?
[13:15:50] <crutchy> you said it failed over
[13:16:30] <crutchy> maybe its fighting for master node status or some shit
[13:16:38] <crutchy> does the failover have stonith enabled?
[13:17:05] * crutchy has nfi what he's talking about
[13:17:43] * chromas didn't either; until doing a search, chromas assumed it was a callback to lithp
[13:18:19] <chromas> ~define lisp
[13:18:19] <exec> [soylent] lisp: A speech impediment which causes sufferers to speak parenthetically while being unable to pronounce the word lisp
[13:18:51] <crutchy> lol
[13:19:11] <crutchy> ~define parenthetically
[13:19:16] <exec> [wolframalpha] parenthetically: adverb | in a parenthetical manner
[13:19:24] <crutchy> fuck me that's useful
[13:19:34] <crutchy> lol
[13:19:40] <crutchy> thanks wolfram :-P
[13:19:59] <crutchy> ~define parenthetic
[13:20:04] <exec> [wolframalpha] parenthetic: adjective | qualifying or explaining; placed or as if placed in parentheses
[13:21:38] <chromas> Ooh, Linux Mint 17 (lts) released. I used to use that
[13:21:41] <chromas> for a week
[13:22:45] <chromas> ~define yout
[13:22:48] <exec> [urbandictionary] yout: Short for youth. A no good pikee (seepikeys) who spends his time abusing, threatening and trying to look hard. This behaviour is only exhibited whe...
[13:23:12] <chromas> I'm sorry, did you say "youts"?
[13:25:15] * NCommander MIGHT have figured it out
[13:25:55] <chromas> Well then, we're giving you a raise, good sir
[13:26:11] <chromas> How does .01% sound?
[13:41:10] <paulej72> good moring all. I sse we have been busy this moringing an all for the wrong reasons
[13:41:41] * chromas blames Bender
[13:43:20] * crutchy fuckin 'ates pikees
[13:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:43:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 146
[13:43:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> mornin back at ya, paulej72
[13:43:36] <crutchy> coffee++
[13:43:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 147
[13:43:38] <paulej72> then it means not enough alchohol, beers all around
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[13:46:25] <NCommander> hey paulej72
[13:50:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 128bit Discrete Logarithm Crypto Solved in 2 Hours - http://sylnt.us - O-getting-smaller
[14:01:47] <crutchy> paulej72: ping
[14:02:57] <NCommander> paulej72, any idea where the comments http://soylentnews.org
[14:04:40] <NCommander> Oh
[14:04:41] <NCommander> Crud
[14:04:57] <NCommander> ugh
[14:08:57] <crutchy> ~isdown web-refinery.com
[14:08:59] <exec> web-refinery.com: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:09:13] <crutchy> ~isdown xlefay.nl
[14:09:15] <exec> xlefay.nl: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:09:37] <crutchy> ~isdown xanhost.eu
[14:09:39] <exec> xanhost.eu: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:10:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~isdown crutchy's_mom
[14:10:01] <exec> crutchy's_mom: Error connecting to "crutchy's_mom".
[14:10:04] <crutchy> ~isdown 78.46.73.246
[14:10:05] <exec> 78.46.73.246: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:10:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> well at least there's that
[14:10:29] <paulej72> ~isdown xandev.nl
[14:10:32] <exec> xandev.nl: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:11:34] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:12:26] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:12:35] <exec> error: command timed out
[14:13:35] <exec> error: command timed out
[14:13:48] <crutchy> no luck there
[14:14:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> should give it a shorter timeout. like 5s or less.
[14:15:08] <crutchy> it should be 10s
[14:15:16] <crutchy> seemed like longer though
[14:16:02] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:17:03] <exec> error: command timed out
[14:17:14] <crutchy> 60 seconds exactly
[14:18:27] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:19:28] <exec> error: command timed out
[14:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> meant for that specific connect command
[14:19:45] <crutchy> fsockopen?
[14:20:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> if that's what you're using. tunable, no?
[14:21:47] <crutchy> ~php fsockopen
[14:21:48] <exec> resource fsockopen( string $hostname [, int $port = -1 [, int &$errno [, string &$errstr [, float $timeout = ini_get("default_socket_timeout")]]]] )
[14:22:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> there ya go
[14:23:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, anything can't respond in 5 seconds might as well be considered down.
[14:23:59] <NCommander> Its site upgrade time :-)
[14:24:02] * NCommander is dumping the database
[14:24:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, for 1406 update
[14:24:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> shiny new bugs for me tomorrow!
[14:25:51] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:25:56] <exec> 62.194.147.98:
[14:26:42] <paulej72> NCommander: are we going to put the prod db on dev and run through a upgrade?
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[14:27:16] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:27:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> do it live, no backup!
[14:27:22] <exec> 62.194.147.98: error connecting to "62.194.147.98"
[14:27:36] <crutchy> do it live! fuck it!
[14:27:42] <crutchy> we'll do it live!
[14:28:06] <crutchy> lol fucking bill o'reilly
[14:28:28] <crutchy> ~isdown 62.194.147.98
[14:28:34] <exec> 62.194.147.98: error connecting to "62.194.147.98"
[14:28:39] <crutchy> 5 seconds
[14:28:43] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm just doing it on dev directly, you've already tested it
[14:28:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> spot on
[14:28:48] * NCommander has applied all the schema updates
[14:29:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~isdown 127.0.0.1
[14:29:28] <exec> 127.0.0.1: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:29:44] <crutchy> lol
[14:29:57] <crutchy> ~isdown 192.168.0.21
[14:29:58] <exec> 192.168.0.21: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden
[14:30:03] <crutchy> ~isdown 192.168.1.21
[14:30:04] <NCommander> ~isdown 192.168.0.1
[14:30:05] <exec> 192.168.0.1: HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized
[14:30:08] <exec> 192.168.1.21: error connecting to "192.168.1.21"
[14:30:12] <NCommander> I smell a security exploit :-)
[14:30:25] <crutchy> mwahahahaha :-P
[14:30:44] <crutchy> where's khyber?
[14:30:50] <paulej72> NCommander: we just have to apply the few data updates befor pusihing the new verion of slash (template truncate, delete shlashboxes and stories_never_update, set eveyone to improved threaded)
[14:31:01] <crutchy> $khyber->findExploit(exec)
[14:31:07] <NCommander> paulej72, already did those, except truncate
[14:31:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~isdown 173.194.46.2:443
[14:31:38] <exec> 173.194.46.2:443:
[14:31:48] <crutchy> ~isdown 192.168.1.1
[14:31:48] <exec> 192.168.1.1: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[14:31:52] <NCommander> paulej72, here goes nothing
[14:32:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no port arguments then?
[14:32:01] <paulej72> NCommander: you set everyone to improved threaded?
[14:32:28] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, which will fall over to threaded until the new code hits
[14:32:41] <NCommander> paulej72, production push in progress
[14:32:42] <crutchy> hmm i could try that
[14:33:01] <crutchy> fucking php
[14:33:06] <crutchy> ~php strpos
[14:33:07] <exec> mixed strpos( string $haystack , mixed $needle [, int $offset = 0] )
[14:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> good for you, builds character
[14:35:06] * NCommander bounces the production systems
[14:35:18] <crutchy> ~isdown 173.194.46.2:443
[14:35:19] <exec> 173.194.46.2:
[14:35:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> dun-da-daaah, this looks like a job for Captain Regex!
[14:35:33] <crutchy> just used explode
[14:35:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, you're missing out on some quality line noise opportunity.
[14:36:40] <NCommander> paulej72, so, upgrade appears to been successful: this appears to still be broken http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:22] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, crutchy exec: try out the new commenting system
[14:37:24] <paulej72> NCommander: that comment is fine for me. check another browser.
[14:37:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i see no issues
[14:38:08] <NCommander> paulej72, look at the comment counts, and the number of comments
[14:38:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, you put the expandable comment tree userscript in that bastich?
[14:39:07] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, extremely improved
[14:39:19] <NCommander> ah ***
[14:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> score, i can unload it now
[14:39:37] <NCommander> paulej72, I forgot slash doesn't clean out the old shit
[14:39:42] * NCommander needs to break the site momentary
[14:40:18] <paulej72> NCommander: I counted 74 comments and that is what the display said was the count.
[14:40:56] <paulej72> Is anyone else seeing an issue with http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:07] <NCommander> paulej72, I only see a few unless I change my view to -1
[14:42:38] <paulej72> NCommander: do you have any foes set?
[14:42:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i always browse at -1. saves switching when it's mod time.
[14:42:59] <NCommander> paulej72, no
[14:43:06] * NCommander slightly broke it worse
[14:43:12] <NCommander> stand by
[14:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice, 404 on login.pl
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[14:43:34] <paulej72> wasn’t me TheMightyBuzzard
[14:43:41] <crutchy> ~isdown 173.194.46.2:443
[14:43:43] <exec> 173.194.46.2:443: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[14:43:57] * TheMightyBuzzard mourns login.pl
[14:44:01] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, thats because most of slash's files are MIA
[14:44:05] <paulej72> ~isdown soylentnews.org
[14:44:07] <exec> soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:44:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[14:44:13] <crutchy> ~isdown irc.sylnt.us:6667
[14:44:13] <NCommander> paulej72, its in varnish OH SHIT mode
[14:44:15] <exec> irc.sylnt.us:6667: connected
[14:45:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet, now we can port scan everything behind your nat
[14:45:21] <crutchy> prolly
[14:45:32] <crutchy> will be pretty disappointing though
[14:45:58] <crutchy> apache is about all i run
[14:46:05] <crutchy> and mysql
[14:46:08] <crutchy> hmm
[14:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> well put something interesting up then. porn server running on 6969
[14:46:15] <crutchy> lol
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[14:47:19] * NCommander crosses his finger
[14:47:21] <NCommander> ^s
[14:47:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, sounds painful to do with just one finger
[14:49:34] <crutchy> ~isdown 127.0.0.1:3306
[14:49:35] <exec> 127.0.0.1:3306: error connecting
[14:49:43] <paulej72> ~isdown soylentnews.org
[14:49:45] <exec> soylentnews.org: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~isdown soylentnews.org:443
[14:50:03] <exec> soylentnews.org:443: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:50:07] <crutchy> ~isdown dev.soylentnews.org:22
[14:50:13] <exec> dev.soylentnews.org:22: error connecting
[14:50:16] <Bytram> just reloaded home page successfully.
[14:50:28] <NCommander> Bytram, its going to 503 briefly, then we should be fully up again
[14:50:29] <crutchy> ~isdown dev.soylentnews.org:443
[14:50:31] <exec> dev.soylentnews.org:443: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
[14:50:52] <NCommander> I needed to rebuild the /code directory
[14:51:04] <Bytram> NCommander: k, thnx. I assume doing the site upgrade?
[14:51:11] <NCommander> Bytram, yeah
[14:51:18] <NCommander> Had a hiccup due to the shear amount of code we deleted
[14:51:25] <crutchy> ~isdown helium.soylentnews.org:443
[14:51:27] <exec> helium.soylentnews.org:443: error connecting
[14:51:33] <crutchy> ~isdown helium.soylentnews.org:22
[14:51:34] <exec> helium.soylentnews.org:22: error connecting
[14:51:58] <NCommander> Ok, we're fully up
[14:52:03] <crutchy> ~isdown helium.sylnt.us
[14:52:05] <exec> helium.sylnt.us: HTTP/1.0 200 OK
[14:52:08] <Bytram> For future reference: I thought there was a static page you could put up while this was happening? let the users see something useful instead of 503, 404, etc.
[14:52:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> boioioioing
[14:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, where's the fun in that?
[14:52:48] <crutchy> should output the error code in hex
[14:53:08] <Bytram> crutchy: a hex on thee?
[14:53:34] <paulej72> NCommander: the new site_news slashbox is not showing?
[14:53:36] <crutchy> soylentnews error pages
[14:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just pipe 3 characters from /dev/random and use them as the error code
[14:53:45] <crutchy> lol
[14:53:47] <Bytram> just reloaded sn, dev.sn, etc successfully.
[14:53:49] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: LOL
[14:54:02] <crutchy> or output a monty python quote
[14:54:28] <crutchy> "if it's not a personal question; are you a virgin?"
[14:54:37] <Bytram> use the code to select words from a monty python quote
[14:54:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> "oh, come on, just a little peril?"
[14:55:14] <Bytram> ain't goin there.
[14:55:25] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah,
[14:55:27] <NCommander> Crud, I know why
[14:55:32] <crutchy> that biggus dickus quote where he offerth athithtanth in cathe of a thudden crithith is a classic
[14:55:38] <crutchy> i mean a clathic
[14:55:40] <NCommander> paulej72, ... I didn't notice this on dev, but where did the Delete All go on the messaging center?
[14:56:03] <paulej72> I forgot to put that in
[14:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay! new bugs!
[14:56:27] <Bytram> nah. he just deleted all the delete all buttons
[14:56:29] <crutchy> a crithith of thortth
[14:56:44] <paulej72> don’t need to delete new ones are on top :)
[14:57:09] <Bytram> paulej72: ??
[14:57:13] <crutchy> we need a "crash server" link instead
[14:57:47] <paulej72> don’t need to delete messages because new ones are on top
[14:57:55] <paulej72> is that better Bytram
[14:58:03] <NCommander> paulej72, still, prefer a way to delete
[14:58:10] <crutchy> you didn't type in hex paulej72
[14:58:17] <NCommander> Apears I broke subscribe.pl
[14:58:19] <NCommander> >.<;
[14:58:32] <Konomi> house wrecker ~
[14:58:34] <crutchy> what can we subscribe to?
[14:58:37] <crutchy> err
[14:58:47] <Bytram> paulej72: I don't think so.... was there a change in what I am supposed to be seeing? I don't see the list of messages with the links to the actual stuff.
[14:58:53] <crutchy> what could we previously before you fucked it subscribe to
[14:58:58] <crutchy> ?
[14:59:04] <Bytram> paulej72: iow, not sure what I am supposed to expect. SHould it look the same as it used to?
[14:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i subscribe to the idea that coffee is life
[14:59:15] <crutchy> true
[14:59:30] <crutchy> i would like to subscribe to your subscription
[14:59:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> from the department of redundant redundancy department
[15:00:15] <crutchy> ~isdown TheMightyBuzzard:subscription
[15:00:15] <exec> TheMightyBuzzard:subscription: error connecting
[15:00:19] <Bytram> paulej72: what I see, now, is a single message that looks like a "comment" under the "Your Messages" banner.
[15:00:34] <Bytram> the "comment" title is the message that I used to see.
[15:00:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't have any messages :(
[15:01:21] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: working on it.
[15:01:41] <crutchy> ~isdown "; exec("ps");
[15:01:42] <exec> "; exec("ps");: error connecting
[15:01:57] <crutchy> i suck at hacking
[15:02:36] -!- NCommander [NCommander!~mcasadeva@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mcasadevall] has parted #Soylent
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[15:02:39] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v NCommander] by juggler
[15:02:45] <crutchy> ~isdown Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--
[15:02:46] <exec> Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--: error connecting
[15:02:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> little bobby tables!
[15:03:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ok, you should now have a message :/
[15:03:15] <crutchy> if only fsockopen used mysql
[15:03:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, newp
[15:04:01] <crutchy> ~q
[15:04:04] -!- exec has quit [Quit: exec]
[15:04:11] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ah, I bet your prefs DO NOT request a mesage when friend relationships change?
[15:04:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> thought they did
[15:04:37] <Bytram> ten u should have received 3 msgs
[15:04:40] <Bytram> s/ten/then/
[15:04:41] <SedBot> <Bytram> then u should have received 3 msgs
[15:04:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, set to web
[15:04:59] <Bytram> on sn you are "The Mighty Buzzard" correct?
[15:05:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup yup
[15:05:32] <Bytram> well, I just did a "friend" on you, agina.
[15:05:37] <Bytram> *again
[15:06:02] <Bytram> let's try it the other way, set me as your friend.
[15:06:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> broke!
[15:06:08] <Bytram> me == Bytram
[15:06:18] * Bytram offers TheMightyBuzzard a penny.
[15:06:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> yet again i triumph over the server!
[15:06:33] <NCommander> paulej72, I guess the problem with that comments thing is because the top parent is -1, I don't see it
[15:06:41] <NCommander> and its not showing "below my threshold" ...
[15:07:23] <paulej72> NCommander: did you try a differnet browser.
[15:07:31] <NCommander> paulej72, OH, "Hard Thresholds" is checked on in my profile
[15:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> done
[15:07:43] <crutchy> i've tried setting a friend before and it logged me out
[15:07:48] <paulej72> NCommander: that would do it
[15:07:51] <crutchy> not every time though
[15:08:15] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: not seeing it. :(
[15:08:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet, bug!
[15:08:32] <NCommander> paulej72, I just realized today was the 31 and not June 1st
[15:08:35] <crutchy> bugs++
[15:08:35] <Bender> karma - bugs: 1
[15:08:36] <NCommander> We're a day early on the upgrade
[15:08:37] * TheMightyBuzzard points at paulej72
[15:08:37] <NCommander> >.<;
[15:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> he broke it
[15:08:56] <crutchy> bug squashing party
[15:09:05] <crutchy> i'll bring my own scotch
[15:09:17] <crutchy> you guys can fend for yourselves :-P
[15:09:23] <Bytram> NCommander: I was wondering about that!
[15:09:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> want this should go in the bug list on git or fix it today?
[15:10:00] <crutchy> lets see if the bug propogates
[15:10:15] <crutchy> slash might become self aware
[15:10:34] <NCommander> paulej72, so, first bug, subscriber stars don't show up/disappear retroactively
[15:10:50] <NCommander> http://soylentnews.org - see the two NCommander posts here
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[15:10:53] <NCommander> One is starred, one isn't
[15:10:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> NCommander, hey now, first bug was mine
[15:11:11] * NCommander wonders what people will say with the new commenting system
[15:11:39] <paulej72> NCommander: that is a feature not a bug. Only show subscribe status to comments that were generated during a subscrbed period
[15:11:55] <crutchy> yes... feature :-P
[15:12:39] <Bytram> NCommander: paulej72: testing with TheMightyBuzzard reveals that Relationship notifications to the Web are not making it through.
[15:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> already slapped a bug report on it up
[15:13:07] <paulej72> NCommander: they are poceesed on timer by slashd
[15:13:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:13:09] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 3
[15:13:19] <Bytram> paulej72: how long?
[15:13:22] <paulej72> You should know this it is in the faq
[15:13:23] <Bytram> nograb
[15:13:35] <crutchy> lol
[15:13:38] <crutchy> damn
[15:14:13] <paulej72> well there is a process for updaing relationships and another for send the message, don’t have time to look the both up.
[15:14:33] <paulej72> trying to fix a couple of other bugs.
[15:14:35] * NCommander goes to have El Smoke
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[15:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, you're showing under fans now at least
[15:15:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: k. I set you to foe, friend, normal, and then (later) back to friend.
[15:16:06] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'm still not seeing update message.
[15:16:16] <crutchy> http://www.digdang.com
[15:16:56] <NCommander> paulej72, I *will* say all the JS decluttering we did did a fucking miracle for site performance
[15:16:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, leave a few of the not so annoying ones for me.
[15:18:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> squashing bugs is much more fun than design decisions or feature adding.
[15:18:10] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Hmmm, no message, but I *just now* looked and you are listed as a friend
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[15:18:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, seems a hair slow to notice but no big there.
[15:19:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: blegh. I was confused. Friends are what *I* selected. I still don't see you as a "Fan" nor do I see a message.
[15:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[15:20:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> give it a bit. took a while for you to show as a fan.
[15:21:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I understand the "cuteness" of strating everything with "F", but it is hard on my mental parser to remember which means what, esp. w/ Freaks
[15:21:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> left = you, right = them
[15:22:21] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: You did the relationship change with "Bytram", right?
[15:22:27] <Bytram> s/right/correct/
[15:22:27] <SedBot> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: You did the relationship change with "Bytram", correct?
[15:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, yar. you show as friend and your friending of me shows under fans
[15:23:17] <Bytram> I'll give it a rest for now and check back in a bit.
[15:23:28] <Bytram> which reminds me; time to do laundry. back in a few
[15:23:32] <Bytram> afk
[15:23:46] <crutchy> ~php in_array\
[15:23:46] <exec> bool in_array( mixed $needle , array $haystack [, bool $strict = FALSE] )
[15:26:30] <crutchy> ~q
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[15:27:48] <NCommander> Bytram, that MIGHT be related to subscription being abled
[15:28:54] <Bytram> NCommander: I just tagged you as a friend from Bytram
[15:29:28] <Bytram> ok, TheMightyBuzzard just NOW showed up as a fan
[15:29:29] <NCommander> I'll check in a moment if I get a message
[15:29:49] <Bytram> but, still nothing in the messages tab about it, yet.
[15:30:34] <Bytram> NCommander: let's try it the other way, too. from a Subscriber to no. pls friend me.
[15:31:34] <NCommander> paulej72, granted you subscription
[15:31:58] <NCommander> Bytram, you're already my friend, so I'm going to make you a foe
[15:32:26] <NCommander> Note: notifications of relationship changes are NOT instant
[15:32:31] <NCommander> They're batched and sent as one glob
[15:32:54] <Bytram> NCommander: HUH? as Bytram does not see any relationship from NCommander
[15:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> showing up in the lists apparently is too
[15:33:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> slashd is fun
[15:33:52] <Bytram> NCommander: I see that *Bytram* tagged you as a friend, and that you are a friend of one of my friends.
[15:35:18] <crutchy> i wouldn't have thought relationship changes would require batch processing outside the normal request handler
[15:36:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, could be a dos vector
[15:36:31] <crutchy> anything could be a dos vector
[15:36:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but slash is set up to eliminate a whole lot of them
[15:37:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat, found a bug in my script. or in facebook's api. not sure.
[15:38:08] <crutchy> lol i can't be bothered getting an app id or whatever its called
[15:38:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, nope it's in the api
[15:38:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> some things that show in home do not show in the v2.0/me/home endpoint
[15:39:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> crutchy, now that's some quality lazy. takes like 2m to do.
[15:39:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> props
[15:39:59] <NCommander> Oh I fucking hate SC
[15:40:15] <crutchy> its fb. that adds an additional effort factor
[15:40:30] <crutchy> tips it over my threshold
[15:40:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> home of charleston and columbia or does that stand for something entirely different?
[15:40:47] <Bytram> NCommander: SC?
[15:40:52] <Bytram> South Carolina?
[15:40:57] <crutchy> starcraft?
[15:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya but it's the dev site. not as much god-awful
[15:42:12] <NCommander> Bytram, slashcode
[15:42:19] * NCommander is dealing with issue with linked lists
[15:42:28] <Bytram> ah. Good Luck!
[15:42:29] <crutchy> sounds affectionate
[15:45:23] <paulej72> NCommander: I think I remeber what the issue is with the slash boxes. I need to turncate the dynamic_users_blocks table. Do you have an issue with me doing this?
[15:46:39] <crutchy> it'll prolly cause oxygen to run out of oxygen
[15:47:14] <crutchy> and helium to leak into boron
[15:47:23] <Bytram> paulej72: FYI - I read both the "FAQ" @ http://soylentnews.org and the "Friends and Foes FAQ" @ http://soylentnews.org ... Saw nothing about delays in getting messages or it being batched or anything along those lines.
[15:47:41] <Bytram> paulej72: not sure where else in the FAQ I should have looked.
[15:47:52] <Bytram> never mind it for now, but just wanted to make note of it.
[15:48:06] <paulej72> I thouth that was in there, might have been in the slash version
[15:48:37] <NCommander> paulej72, go for it
[15:49:01] <Bytram> afk, brb
[15:50:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Save the World - One Earth-Cooled Beer at a Time - http://sylnt.us - I'll-drink-to-that
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[15:51:48] <NCommander> paulej72, I' writing the announce post right now, based off of your journal entry
[15:52:09] <paulej72> NCommander: I can’t get runtask to work on boron
[15:52:22] <paulej72> can't find virtual user 'slash' in /srv/soylentnews.org/slashcode/slash.sites at /srv/soylentnews.org/slashcode/bin/runtask line 276, <GEN0> line 1.
[15:55:54] <NCommander> paulej72, runtask -u neon_writer
[15:55:58] <Bytram> NCommander: FYI, "Bytram" now sees you as a friend, but I do not yet have a message to that effect.
[15:56:00] * NCommander has to fix that
[15:56:04] <NCommander> Bytram, crap
[15:56:04] <paulej72> NCommander: just figured that out
[15:56:08] <NCommander> Bytram, file a bug
[15:56:13] <Bytram> NCommander: k
[15:56:17] * NCommander hopes we didn't break notifications all together
[15:56:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh, apparently you can't in fact use private ip addresses on the fb app. never noticed because i use a dynamic hostname service.
[15:56:52] <paulej72> Not yet, if the zoo just did its job, messages will be 5 minutes later.
[15:58:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> "You should put some site news here that your users might enjoy."
[15:58:25] <paulej72> NCommander: where did yo put the mysql dump you did before the upgrade?
[16:01:01] <NCommander> paulej72, its in my home folder
[16:01:03] <NCommander> on neon
[16:05:56] <Bytram> NCommander: FYI: TheMightyBuzzard opened bug 209: "No message for friend/foe status change with Web selected"; I updated with steps to reproduce.
[16:06:54] <NCommander> Bytram, are notifications working at all? i.e., replies?
[16:07:13] <Bytram> I'll take a look
[16:07:51] <Bytram> NCommander: do you have notifications set for comment replies on story and or journal entries?
[16:09:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be a message for you from a reply, Bytram
[16:09:15] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: on my way
[16:10:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> comment here: https://soylentnews.org
[16:10:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should have a message about it.
[16:12:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: got a 503; service Unavailable; Guru Meditation: XID: 639092736 / --- / Varnish cache server
[16:13:21] <NCommander> oh, I just got a notification
[16:13:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Ah, there it is! I see it in my message notifications area, now.
[16:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> woot
[16:13:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> so not completely broken
[16:15:06] <Bytram> NCommander: issue. before I got the 503, I saw a "new" message, but it was one that I had deleted and that had disappeared, came back; it was a notification about an update to a friend's journal.
[16:15:42] <paulej72> I have been updating slashboxes and thus reloading the frontends
[16:15:53] <Bytram> got another 503:
[16:15:54] <Bytram> Service Unavailable
[16:15:54] <Bytram> Guru Meditation:
[16:15:54] <Bytram> XID: 2141222958
[16:15:54] <Bytram> __________________________
[16:15:54] <Bytram> Varnish cache server
[16:18:07] <NCommander> Bytram, huh?
[16:18:19] <NCommander> Bytram, paulej72 probably restarted the backend
[16:18:23] <NCommander> Which causes it to 503 momentary
[16:18:48] <NCommander> Bytram, which accounts do you want to get stars (subscription) on?
[16:19:01] <Bytram> NCommander: reproducible; go to: http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird, https://soylentnews.org gives me a login page even though I'm logged in.
[16:19:24] <NCommander> TheMightyBuzzard, same here O_o;
[16:19:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> harmless and obscure bug. i like it and think we should keep it as a pet.
[16:20:01] <Bytram> NCommander: pm
[16:20:25] <NCommander> Bytram, don't see a PM
[16:21:01] <Bytram> NCommander: try now.
[16:22:34] <NCommander> Ok, got that kicked out
[16:23:28] <paulej72> Has anyone seen a message delivered since the upgrade?
[16:23:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, yes. comment messages are working.
[16:23:48] <NCommander> paulej72, I did, reply notifcation
[16:23:57] <Bytram> paulej72: I just saw a message that TheMightyBuzzard replied to a comment of mine (bytram)
[16:24:00] <NCommander> paulej72, I think enabling subscription disabled friend notifications; thats a "subscriber only" feature
[16:24:27] <Bytram> paulej72: but I have seen no messages about friend changes.
[16:24:45] <paulej72> OK then I do not have to trace any issues with what I did to messages :)
[16:24:59] <Bytram> paulej72++
[16:24:59] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 17
[16:24:59] <NCommander> paulej72, er ... the site news thing moved
[16:25:00] <Bytram> NCommander++
[16:25:00] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 29
[16:25:02] <paulej72> Bytram: see NCommander above
[16:25:03] <NCommander> paulej72, why's it on the left now?
[16:25:11] <NCommander> er, right?
[16:25:11] <Bytram> got it.
[16:25:54] <paulej72> more space and and we could not move it there before because slashbox selcetion was totally broken.
[16:25:55] <NCommander> paulej72, all things considered, that wasn't *too* bad
[16:26:23] <NCommander> paulej72, changelog is up
[16:26:26] <Bytram> afk ; laundry needs moving to dryer.
[16:27:19] <NCommander> afk ; need a cigarette
[16:27:36] <Bytram> NCommander: paulej72: idea - make everyone a subscriber right now. Let them enjoy the *benefits* of it (friend notifications, etc) and then later, make it optional.
[16:27:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, ima have one outa solidarity
[16:27:50] <NCommander> Bytram, that's remarkably difficult to do
[16:28:07] <NCommander> Bytram, beside the little star, it doesn't actually give you anything
[16:28:09] <NCommander> Or it shouldn't
[16:28:10] <NCommander> Yet
[16:28:34] <Bytram> well, at the moment, a bug just turned into a feature!
[16:28:49] <paulej72> It should be easy to disable the subscriber check on the zoo messages
[16:28:55] <Bytram> people HATE losing stuff.
[16:29:03] <NCommander> Bytram, indeed
[16:29:16] <NCommander> Which is why I consider most site subscription features a rip
[16:29:21] <Bytram> give 'em the benefit, then later, make it conditional.
[16:29:51] <NCommander> Er ... I think the fixed RSS broke juggler
[16:29:54] <NCommander> >.>;
[16:30:09] <NCommander> " from the cue-the-complaining dept. "
[16:30:11] * NCommander feels witty
[16:30:43] <Bytram> rather than some vague description of the benefits of subscribing, provide it as a default (for say a month two for new users). let us *see* what it does. then make it optional.
[16:30:49] <Bytram> just thinking out loud, but I think you get the idea.
[16:31:02] <Bytram> gtb back in a few minutes.
[16:31:49] <NCommander> paulej72, I hate to say this, but I really like having this back "This page was generated by a Squadron of Elite Squirrels for NCommander (2)."
[16:31:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site Upgrade: Slashcode 14.06 Released - http://sylnt.us - cue-the-complaining
[16:32:49] <paulej72> NCommander: I added a few new items to each list. It makes it more surprizing
[16:33:08] <NCommander> paulej72, we need Crack Team of Ninja Monkeys on the next release
[16:34:00] <paulej72> [% group = ['Flock', 'Swarm', 'Barrel', 'Team', 'Squadron', 'Fleet',
[16:34:00] <paulej72> 'Group', 'Cadre', 'Horde', 'Legion', 'Mob', 'Throng' ];
[16:34:02] <Bytram> NCommander: I thought it varied. I see: This page was generated by a Group of Ultra Mummies for martyb (76)
[16:34:02] <paulej72> modifier = ['Rabid', 'Uber', 'Psycho', 'Attack', 'Circus', 'Rebel'
[16:34:03] <paulej72> 'Albino', 'Trained', 'Stealth', 'Super', 'Elite',
[16:34:05] <paulej72> 'Random', 'Orange', 'Ultra', 'Roaming', 'Underpaid', 'Overworked'];
[16:34:06] <paulej72> type = ['Mummies', 'Elephants', 'Geeks', 'Ninjas', 'Robots', 'Mongols',
[16:34:07] <paulej72> 'Squirrels', 'Chickens', 'Geese', 'Monkeys', 'Bruins', 'Soylents', 'Barbarians'];
[16:34:08] <paulej72> %]
[16:34:26] <NCommander> Heh :-)
[16:38:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> You know, We Will Rock You may be the most perfect rock song ever. You could go to the african boonies and they'd know stomp-stomp-clap and enjoy doing it.
[16:42:38] <Bytram> NCommander: we might want to update those; it only provides 2652 permutations. ;)
[16:42:59] <Bytram> j/k
[16:43:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> NCommander: I think "Firehouse" should be "Firehose" in the article: http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:14] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: LOL!
[16:47:04] <paulej72> OK fixed relationship changes messages. Now should go out even if not subscribed
[16:47:40] <Bytram> paulej72: great! testing...
[16:48:14] <paulej72> Bytram: feel free to email me more suggestions to the list and I can add them in.
[16:48:49] <Bytram> paulej72: will do.
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[16:51:09] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I (martyb) just "Friend"ed you. please check for messages.
[16:52:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp but apparently someone commented that they're a once a day thing like comment moderation.
[16:52:59] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Oh. Hmmm. That makes sense, in a way. thanks!
[16:53:07] <Bytram> gtg afk brb
[16:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> which means it wasn't a bug but we inadvertently found another bug by thinking it was.
[16:57:27] <paulej72> NCommander: http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:48] <NCommander> paulej72, http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:52] <NCommander> paulej72, fixing
[17:01:31] <NCommander> paulej72, right, stupid question, but when do comments collaspe?
[17:04:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! found bug!
[17:04:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> comments on polls do not use D1.5
[17:07:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> two bugs for me!
[17:08:25] <NCommander> paulej72, poke?
[17:09:15] * NCommander is trying to figure this out
[17:10:15] <Konomi> https://www.youtube.com - Richard Stallman signs my laptop and removes Windows 8 license
[17:10:19] <Konomi> I laughed
[17:10:28] <paulej72> NCommander: click the minus to collapse a comment, the . to colapse the whole thread, ++ and - - to open and clolaspe all in a thread
[17:10:41] <NCommander> paulej72, right, but I don't see comments collasped by default
[17:11:03] <NCommander> paulej72, I think having the GS script installed changed the behavior, but what I should see is comments collasped like they are in threaded, then easy to expand
[17:11:10] <paulej72> If you are at -1 there are none to collapse
[17:11:10] <Bytram> paulej72: is that explained somewhere in a FAQ or something?
[17:11:26] * NCommander should have looked closer at dev
[17:11:36] <NCommander> paulej72, this isn't much different than nested then
[17:12:03] <paulej72> NCommander: no it is not
[17:12:36] <NCommander> paulej72, the way the improved threaded worked though was it was collasped/expanded though like normal threaded, you could open threads without changing the page
[17:13:22] <paulej72> NCommander: that is how this works. Set your threshold to 2 and see what the page looks like
[17:13:46] <NCommander> paulej72, right, I see that, but the old behavior was saner since if I don't care about a thread, quick to scroll past.
[17:14:00] <NCommander> paulej72, the "breakthough" value caused it to autoexpand
[17:15:22] <paulej72> NCommander: and most users found that fucking shitty. as they always had to open new pages. I did not realize we wanted the threads to be collapsed by defaut.
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[17:16:10] <NCommander> paulej72, that was the way it was implemented originally! I didn't notice the behavior was changed
[17:16:28] * mrcoolbp wakes up
[17:17:07] <paulej72> NCommander: I have had the changes like that for a month on dev, and noone was complaing
[17:17:34] <NCommander> paulej72, dev doesn't get actively commented on though. I didn't notice it until I was using it properly.
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[17:18:14] <paulej72> Not my fault, I tested on the long comment thread and told everyone to look at that.
[17:18:53] <NCommander> paulej72, its no ones fault.
[17:19:07] <NCommander> But its not "Improved Threading", its "Improved Nested" >.<;
[17:19:11] * mrcoolbp 's fault
[17:21:23] <NCommander> paulej72, I'd expect the old Threaded behavior, with comments above breakthrough automatically expanded
[17:21:31] <paulej72> NCommander: agreed, but I usually ran theaded at -1 -1 as I want all my comments out in the open with no pagination. I’ll need to create a new improved threaded that actully works like you want it with the tow thresholds
[17:21:54] <NCommander> paulej72, Improved Threaded/Threshold -1 would do exactly that
[17:22:03] <NCommander> paulej72, actuallyed, Threaded/Threshold -1 would do exactly that
[17:22:27] * NCommander didn't notice the behavioral change until someone pointed it out >.<;
[17:23:00] <mrcoolbp> BRB - restart
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[17:23:43] <paulej72> NCommander: without the breakout set low, the comments are all collapsed. This is what made users unhappy as they had to keep opeing new pages to read comments as the breakthrugh was hidden in the comments prefs, not selectable on the comments header like threshold
[17:24:36] <NCommander> paulej72, but the Score: thing on the main page is meant to hide comments below that score, thats threshold. Breakthrough is when something is expanded in a thread
[17:25:57] <paulej72> yes, but people did not know there was anothrer setting for threaded since it was not out in the open. ./ fixed that in d2 and made both sliders abailbe to the user.
[17:26:41] <Bytram> Although I understand your reasoning, I think this comment raises a good point: http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:24] <NCommander> paulej72, fair enough on the two sliders, probably worth implementing that
[17:27:31] <Bytram> do not change a user's preference without their specifically choosing to do so. We could, for example, put up a notification page to inform them it's there, but leave the selection up to the user.
[17:27:55] <NCommander> Bytram, I disagree on this one, and commented on it. There were 13 users with "no default" set
[17:28:09] <NCommander> Generally newer accounts
[17:28:24] <Bytram> hmm. thanking.
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[17:29:43] * NCommander is looking at the logic
[17:29:51] <NCommander> I think changing the behavior is a one liner
[17:29:58] <paulej72> NCommander: so what I need to do is make the current Improved Threaded Impved Nested, and fix up Improved threaded to work like you want it to with the dual thresholds.
[17:30:35] <NCommander> paulej72, that sounds "sane"
[17:30:56] <NCommander> paulej72, I think its just a matter of putting Threshold on the topbox, then making the behavior consistent
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[17:31:21] <d33tah> just wanted to say
[17:31:23] <d33tah> whoever fixed the RSS
[17:31:24] <NCommander> Since in Improved Threaded, Score is acting as Threshold, and not hiding comments
[17:31:25] <d33tah> thank you!
[17:31:34] <NCommander> d33tah, thank paulej72
[17:31:44] <d33tah> paulej72: thank you!
[17:31:57] <Bytram> NCommander: ok, just read your reply. So there were only 15 users (those w/o the preference set) who were changed; the rest were left as they were?
[17:32:11] <NCommander> Bytram, no, 15 users that were using the site default
[17:32:21] <NCommander> Bytram, the rest had changed it, or merely saved their preferences
[17:32:32] <paulej72> NCommander: yes I need to add the breakout to the top box and add the code in that will make it work. I stripped out that portion of the code from ImpThred
[17:33:03] <paulej72> d33tah: your welcome
[17:33:10] <NCommander> paulej72, I hate to be a pain about this (and I'm annoyed I didn't realize the behavior change; something seemed off to me, but I couldn't figure out what)
[17:33:15] <d33tah> c--
[17:33:16] <Bender> karma - c: 24
[17:33:20] <d33tah> bender--
[17:33:20] <Bender> karma - bender: -9
[17:33:25] <d33tah> d33tah++
[17:33:28] <d33tah> paulej72++
[17:33:28] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 18
[17:33:57] <NCommander> paulej72, $highlightthresh = $threshold if ($highlightthresh < $threshold || $user->{mode} eq 'improvedthreaded');
[17:34:07] <NCommander> I think removing the || bit will get it behave off score
[17:34:13] <paulej72> NCommander: not a problem, I just did not understand that some people actually used threaded that why
[17:34:15] <NCommander> Then just add the dropdown for threshold
[17:34:32] <NCommander> Let me test that on dev, then add a box due to threshold
[17:34:33] <NCommander> *for
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[17:35:32] <NCommander> paulej72, I think part of it is I used the Improved Threaded GM script, and on dev, I have different settings due to no moderation being done on dev
[17:36:00] <NCommander> paulej72, http://dev.soylentnews.org that fixed it
[17:36:09] <NCommander> Let me add a box to edit threshold on the top, and we'l do a quick push
[17:36:17] <paulej72> NCommander: do you want me to make the changes, as I made the changes in the first place
[17:36:28] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm the complainer, I'll fix it :-)
[17:36:48] <NCommander> paulej72, the UI is remarkably unclear on this
[17:36:58] <NCommander> SInce it actually says "Threshold" at the top, but doesn't do what you'd THINK it would do
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[17:37:05] <paulej72> NCommander: if you add that code, we need that second dropdown
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[17:37:56] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm coding the second dropdown right now
[17:38:03] <paulej72> OK
[17:39:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, if you're bored there's always the question of why D1.5 isn't working on poll pages. https://soylentnews.org
[17:40:55] <NCommander> Yeah, that's incredibly uninitive behavior
[17:41:00] * NCommander is fiddling
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[17:42:14] <NCommander> paulej72, the magic variable is highlightthresh
[17:42:18] * NCommander is pedalling quickly
[17:43:01] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: s/uninitive/unintuitive/
[17:43:59] * NCommander pedals quicker
[17:45:00] <mrcoolbp> ^^ for those of you that don't know, Soylent is powered by a power-generating stationary bike
[17:45:17] * NCommander throws his bike at mrcoolbp
[17:45:24] * mrcoolbp ducks
[17:46:28] * mrcoolbp is supposed to be writing a post to main page but is waiting for coffee to kick in
[17:50:40] <NCommander> paulej72, mrcoolbp: http://soylentnews.org
[17:50:49] <NCommander> Well, it wouldn't be SN if we weren't firedrilling
[17:53:23] <mrcoolbp> firefighters unite!
[17:56:12] <NCommander> paulej72, we's haz box
[17:57:00] <NCommander> paulej72, just need to get it connected
[17:57:34] <paulej72> NCommander: we should call each differnt names so people are not confused
[17:57:43] <NCommander> paulej72, I've got Threshold and Breakthrough
[17:58:23] <NCommander> I'm going to smoke, get the code connected, then we can get patched and pushed
[18:00:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bittorent Inc. Demanding Damages from Bittorrent GmbH - http://sylnt.us - which-law-applies-to-the-internet?
[18:13:50] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: fixed the pollboth isssue on dev. The js files were not loading.
[18:14:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> score one for the home team
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[18:17:09] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!
[18:17:19] <Ethanol-fueled> Time to chug a phat coffee and go SURFING!
[18:17:24] * NCommander swears repeatively
[18:17:41] <Ethanol-fueled> NCommander, why is your nickname "NCommander?"
[18:18:11] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, long story, right now dealing with the fact threading is broken on the site
[18:18:13] * NCommander is swearing
[18:18:26] <Ethanol-fueled> Threading is for PUSEYS
[18:18:38] <Ethanol-fueled> Nested is where's it's at, boss.
[18:19:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Since I like it, you should force it on errybody
[18:19:14] <Ethanol-fueled> blame it on a late April fool's joke, or some shit.
[18:20:23] <Ethanol-fueled> Ncommander this is what I imagine you look like:
[18:20:24] <Ethanol-fueled> http://img156.imageshack.us
[18:21:01] <Ethanol-fueled> This is what I imagine mrcoolbp looks like:
[18:21:02] <Ethanol-fueled> http://2.bp.blogspot.com
[18:22:12] <mrcoolbp> rofl ethanol-fueled
[18:22:53] <mrcoolbp> about 10 years younger and blond hair
[18:23:12] <mrcoolbp> though I don't dress like that anymore, that's probably in my gradeschool wardrobe lol
[18:23:25] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, well, you'd like the current behavior then
[18:24:05] <Bytram> NCommander: You might swear some more... http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:05] * mrcoolbp realizes he hasn't eaten breakfast yet
[18:24:11] <Ethanol-fueled> This is what I imagine Foobar Bazbot looks like:
[18:24:12] <Ethanol-fueled> http://pbs.twimg.com
[18:25:44] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp - so you often skip breakfast?
[18:25:51] <Ethanol-fueled> do^
[18:26:09] <Ethanol-fueled> It comes in handy for early-morning workouts, so you don't puke up your food.
[18:26:56] <Ethanol-fueled> Then comes the feast...RIPPING the MEAT fibers apart with your TEETH, as if the animal your're eating is SCREAMING in its DEATH THROES.
[18:27:11] <Ethanol-fueled> "BAAAA" goes the little lamb chop
[18:27:41] <Ethanol-fueled> RAAAWWWWWWRRRRR! HahAAA!
[18:27:51] <mrcoolbp> never skip it, I just am lazy sometimes, I eat 1st breakfast at the time the hobbitzes are eating 2nd breakfast = )
[18:28:24] <mrcoolbp> s/lazy/logged in to IRC before I do anything else in the morning/
[18:28:24] <SedBot> <mrcoolbp> never skip it, I just am logged in to IRC before I do anything else in the morning sometimes, I eat 1st breakfast at the time the hobbitzes are eating 2nd breakfast = )
[18:30:12] <Ethanol-fueled> There's nothing more comforting than waking up about to eat breakfast watching commercials about Black families eating breakfast
[18:30:31] <Ethanol-fueled> The finger snaps, and the pleasant gospel harmonies.
[18:30:53] <Ethanol-fueled> It makes me wish I were born into a Black family, instead of my dad yelling, "drink your fucking milk or I'll kick your ass!"
[18:31:20] * Ethanol-fueled *snaps fingers*
[18:31:49] <mrcoolbp> there's nothing more comforting than waking up about to eat black families eating breakfast
[18:32:13] <d33tah> just curious
[18:32:20] <d33tah> does soylentnews still use apache 1.x?
[18:32:34] <d33tah> ah, just checked. it still does.
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[18:34:08] <NCommander> Bytram, I'll have a reply to you in a few minutes
[18:35:06] <Bytram> NCommander: thank-you.
[18:35:58] <NCommander> Bytram, you've got a valid point, I've got a counter-answer, but right now, I'm trying to fix the site. Smack me if I don't get to it until tonight
[18:36:50] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp - do black people taste teh same as white people? Sadly, to this day I don;'t know.
[18:37:04] <mrcoolbp> both = like chicken
[18:37:09] <Bytram> NCommander: site comes first!!! no problem. that was hard for me to write, you've earned my respect and admiration. thank you for your consideration.
[18:37:11] <Ethanol-fueled> I had a few chances with Black women, but botched them all because I was a lilly livered PUSEY
[18:37:44] <NCommander> Bytram, the biggest issue I have with making it notification is that if the vote proved anything, people have a tendency to miss shit unless its obxious
[18:37:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Like, I would be all agressive, then they liked it so they would be all agressive, then I would back down and end up crying myself to sleep alone while beating my dick.
[18:38:14] <NCommander> Bytram, I think there's a better middle ground
[18:38:36] <NCommander> A "don't change my preferences" box, which we can WHERE for, and leave those users alone unless we have a critical issue that requires a global blowaway
[18:39:04] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: want me to run my post so Ican draw the falming more in my direction?
[18:39:09] <paulej72> NCommander: they will still piss and moan.
[18:39:10] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, go for it
[18:39:12] <mrcoolbp> lol
[18:39:21] <mrcoolbp> s/falming/flaming
[18:39:21] * SedBot hurls a / at mrcolbp!
[18:39:24] <mrcoolbp> ug
[18:39:25] <Bytram> NCommander: understood. I believe there was talk of creating a "banner" slashbox that would appear above the stories... like where the low-submission-queue/barrel-of-monkeys msg appears. Or right below/above it. that might be another avenue to pursue.
[18:39:32] <Ethanol-fueled> mrcoolbp, ncommander - fuck the bitchers
[18:39:41] <mrcoolbp> yup
[18:39:42] <Ethanol-fueled> I for one will suck both your cocks, even if you break the site.
[18:39:46] <mrcoolbp> lol
[18:40:02] <NCommander> Bytram, its been my experience even then that's not perfect. I rather make it obvious we changed something and make it revertable then people pissing that we haven't fixed something because there defaults aren't
[18:40:04] <Ethanol-fueled> nitpicking little things is for fuckin' aspies.
[18:40:12] * NCommander has seen a LOT of comments bitching on comments being stuck in 1997
[18:40:25] <Ethanol-fueled> ncommander, and yet they still visit and post.
[18:40:39] * Bytram like his lawn
[18:40:45] * Bytram likes his lawn
[18:40:46] <paulej72> and we fix it an people bitch. At least they can change it back
[18:40:46] * NCommander upgrades Bytram's lawn to IPv6
[18:41:06] <NCommander> paulej72, I think the middle road is the way to go. Just put the box in preferences, and we only use it for WHEREs
[18:41:07] * Bytram wipes coffee from monitor.
[18:41:17] <Ethanol-fueled> maybe you should rewrite soylent news in Flash and actionscript and shit. So when users expand a comment tree, it makes machine gun sounds and spits 3-D flames.
[18:41:27] <mrcoolbp> post is going out in 3 minutes...
[18:41:28] <paulej72> coldfusion
[18:41:29] <NCommander> Ethanol-fueled, we could do that with Javascript and HTML5 :-P
[18:41:29] <Bytram> NCommander: it's a neat idea... thinking it over.
[18:41:44] <Ethanol-fueled> hahahaha
[18:42:49] <paulej72> NCommander: I have a pull request up for changes that will be need to go live when we do the comments fix.
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[18:43:18] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, fellas, I'm gong to masturbate to Fozzie Bear and then hit the surf. Maybe I'll catch y'all on later.
[18:43:42] <mrcoolbp> Ethanol-fueled catch a killer wave brah!
[18:43:52] <Ethanol-fueled> *POOF!*
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[18:44:13] <Subsentient> What did I just walk in on?
[18:44:26] <Bytram> NCommander: I'm *really* liking the idea of the checkbox, but I'm wondering what the default should be? <evil_grin>
[18:44:57] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: a bunch of 9-year-old boys that got into their daddy's liquor cabinet ?
[18:45:38] <mrcoolbp> s/daddy's/daddies'/
[18:45:38] <SedBot> <mrculbp> Subsentient: a bunch of 9-year-old boys that got into their daddies' liquor cabinet ?
[18:45:50] <NCommander> Bytram, off :-P
[18:46:32] <mrcoolbp> wait for it....
[18:46:40] <Subsentient> I farted.
[18:46:54] <Bytram> NCommander: "[ ] Allow SoylentNews to decide what's best for me."
[18:47:00] <mrcoolbp> hah
[18:47:02] <Bytram> NCommander: there ya go!
[18:47:21] <mrcoolbp> any minute now....
[18:47:50] <mrcoolbp> damn you juggler you slow but-monkey
[18:47:51] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:02] <mrcoolbp> NameVote results ^^
[18:48:06] <Subsentient> $title http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:07] <aqu4> Title for page http://soylentnews.org "SoylentNews | Name Vote Complete"
[18:48:46] <mrcoolbp> okay I gotta start getting ready for work
[18:48:58] * mrcoolbp conveniently leaves before the flame-fest begins
[18:48:58] <Bytram> NCommander: paulej72: and with that, I needs to be going... and... HERE IS A HEART-FELT THANK-YOU FOR **ALL** YOU'VE DONE !!!! YOU CONTINUE TO AMAZE. thanks again!
[18:49:12] <Bytram> and, I got to go, too.
[18:49:15] <NCommander> paulej72, I forgot how fucked up the comment code is
[18:49:17] <NCommander> Srsly
[18:50:07] <Bytram> best of luck everyone! I gotta go, see ya later!
[18:50:10] <paulej72> NCommander: that is why I offered to do the fixes :) I am looking at the code to see if I broke anything with the old styles like a few are saying.
[18:50:15] Bytram is now known as Bytram|away
[18:50:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Name Vote Complete - http://sylnt.us - and-the-winner-is
[18:51:05] <mrcoolbp> ug finally bender
[18:51:31] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm trying to figure out how the dynamic settings are used
[18:51:33] * mrcoolbp wishes he could be a little more prompt
[18:51:43] <NCommander> paulej72, they don't appear to leave comments.pl
[18:51:57] <NCommander> paulej72, I've got most of the logic sorted. Breakthough shows up as the second dropdown, and if you check Save, that works
[18:52:01] <NCommander> paulej72, doesn't work if you don't save
[18:52:20] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: I just got a random 503 error
[18:52:20] <NCommander> paulej72, and I've got improvedthreaded attached to the right variable. If you set breakthread == threshold, you get improved nested
[18:52:24] <mrcoolbp> it went away though
[18:52:52] <paulej72> NCommander: it is part of the url that is passed to the comment.pl.
[18:53:06] <NCommander> paulej72, right, but I can't see it doing anything with that value
[18:53:49] <paulej72> Let me look real quick
[18:54:38] <poutine> When will SN's name be changed? None of the links make it it obvious
[18:54:55] <poutine> It's something that should be like a sticky or header alert
[18:55:12] <poutine> which name won? Am I supposed to believe it takes this long to tally votes?
[18:56:48] <mrcoolbp> poutine: as usual you are a little out-of-touch
[18:57:01] <mrcoolbp> http://sylnt.us
[18:57:36] <mrcoolbp> $title http://sylnt.us
[18:57:37] <aqu4> No title found.
[18:57:46] <mrcoolbp> $title http://soylentnews.org
[18:57:47] <aqu4> Title for page http://soylentnews.org "SoylentNews | Name Vote Complete"
[18:57:54] <mrcoolbp> er there we go
[18:58:50] <NCommander> paulej72, I can see how its broken
[18:59:18] <NCommander> paulej72, set view to Threaded or Nested, your score to 4 or 5, then see that are comments above that still show up
[19:00:03] <NCommander> paulej72, actually, I think this is a bug that was latent
[19:00:14] <NCommander> It appears Comments.pm doesn't check for the form submitted value in the right place
[19:01:36] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: what size/format is the main logo?
[19:01:44] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, its a png, not sure off hand
[19:02:04] <NCommander> paulej72, go to the 14.06 release page, set score to 4, and see all the 2/3 comments still visible
[19:02:58] <paulej72> yes I know that it seems broken, but I need to see if curren code or if I broke it.
[19:04:56] <NCommander> paulej72, check on chillax, that's still 14.04
[19:05:09] * NCommander thinks he gets WHY its broken
[19:05:13] <NCommander> Dear god this code is fucked up
[19:05:49] <poutine> collapse/expand looks ugly as hell
[19:05:59] <poutine> Also where's the data on voting
[19:06:04] <poutine> I have a hard time believing soylentnews actually won
[19:06:06] <poutine> it's a terrible name
[19:06:11] <poutine> the logo is hideous
[19:06:16] <poutine> and the site is looking uglier by the day
[19:06:59] <paulej72> NCommander: chillax is working fine.
[19:07:11] <poutine> I already notice comment #s on the front page are dropping
[19:11:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> poutine, don't hold back, tell us what you really think
[19:13:42] <poutine> I think a party with stake in SN didn't like the voted-upon winner, or put up the process like he actually cares what people think
[19:17:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> perfectly good conspiracy theory, that. highly improbable and unprovable.
[19:19:48] <NCommander> If the goal was to be hugely profitable, we'd gone with generic and bland, probably techmatter
[19:19:52] * NCommander hates the bloody name
[19:22:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> and there would likely be ANY revenue stream by now too
[19:27:36] * mrcoolbp had an idea for a logo, this is JUST a sketch: http://imgur.com
[19:28:37] <mrcoolbp> wow my PS skills are rusty
[19:29:15] <mrcoolbp> poutine: thanks as always for the constructive criticism, as for the data if you actually bothered to read the post, it's on it's way good buddy.
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[19:32:37] <poutine> mrcoolbp, I've actually been asking all week and this post is long overdue, you might want to step off your high horse
[19:32:55] <poutine> what kind of incompetent people can't tally electronic votes in a timely manner
[19:33:28] <mrcoolbp> poutine: you might not want to be such a dick all the time
[19:33:38] <mrcoolbp> people might be nicer to you
[19:33:40] <mrcoolbp> just a thought
[19:34:04] <arti> maybe he has assburgers
[19:35:34] <mrcoolbp> poutine: the type of people that are unpaid volunteers doing this in their ever-decreasing spare time
[19:36:08] <mrcoolbp> poutine: if you want the site to be more in your grand vision you could, i don't know, maybe help in some way instead of just telling us how you could do everything so much better
[19:36:53] <mrcoolbp> we all know how awesome you are (since you are always telling us) so why don't you chip in and actually contribute?
[19:38:52] <mrcoolbp> poutine: I work 70 hours a week and do this in my "down time" and we are coordinating with a group of global volunteers that also have paying jobs so why don't *YOU* get off your horse for a change eh?
[19:39:05] <mrcoolbp> again, just a thought = )
[19:43:04] <mrcoolbp> wow, did that actually shut him up? Quick someone macro what I just said and link it with:
[19:43:07] <mrcoolbp> poutine--
[19:43:07] <Bender> karma - poutine: -341
[19:54:46] <poutine> I contribute to open source projects in my free time. I don't really think it excuses anything. Why are you trying to guilt trip me so much? I don't think it's unreasonable that electronic votes are tallied immediately or close to
[19:55:36] <mrcoolbp> yeah but you don't have people demanding you work on their timeframe I'm guessing
[19:55:44] <mrcoolbp> all you do around here is complain
[19:55:48] <mrcoolbp> that's what I'm saying
[19:57:22] <mrcoolbp> I'm not guilt-tripping you, my point is, instead of just complaining that things aren't going exactly as you'd like them, you could pitch in somehow. Complaining and saying that you could do better isn't beneficial to the project
[19:57:40] <poutine> Look, there's a right way of doing things, and a wrong way of doing things, with a few possibilities in between. What you guys did was the wrong way of doing things. It doesn't matter that it was free to me, that you have a 9-5 job, you have a kid, etc.
[19:58:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> mrcoolbp, that's entirely too rational and reasonable a response for a troll. here, let me show you.
[19:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> eat a dick, poutine
[19:58:38] <arti> if i understand you correctly, you're asking if there is some way we can motivate you?
[19:58:39] <poutine> Barrabas said the same thing as you as they had multiple website outages because they couldn't coordinate something as simple as a DNS changeover
[19:58:57] * arti gets the bacon twinkies
[19:59:20] <poutine> "I'm a volunteer, it doesn't matter if I'm terrible at what I do."
[19:59:28] <poutine> You should not take professional criticism personally
[19:59:36] * arti recompiles poutine with the --helpfulsuggestions flag
[19:59:51] <mrcoolbp> poutine it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
[20:00:37] <mrcoolbp> poutine: this is not a "professional criticism": <poutine> I think a party with stake in SN didn't like the voted-upon winner, or put up the process like he actually cares what people think
[20:00:51] <mrcoolbp> and I do take it personally that you'd say that we are doing that
[20:00:55] <poutine> You're right, that wasn't, that was a stated opinion
[20:01:06] <poutine> I also said hello, that wasn't professional criticism either
[20:01:34] <poutine> I never said everything I say is professional criticism, just that my statements regarding the handling of the vote process
[20:02:25] <mrcoolbp> criticism noted
[20:02:44] <mrcoolbp> now I have to get ready for work
[20:02:52] <arti> may the force be with you
[20:03:01] <poutine> I hope you don't do such a mediocre job there
[20:03:42] <mrcoolbp> I hope that the people you work with on your open-source projects don't have any direct contact with you = )
[20:04:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't. you can tell by how his fingers aren't all broken.
[20:05:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> speech is an interesting thing. take away the possibility of repercussions for what you say and you're far more likely to be a shithead.
[20:06:12] <mrcoolbp> well some of us are
[20:06:20] <poutine> I guess some of us just have thick enough skin to take professional criticism, or we're just more capable people
[20:06:25] <arti> http://www.penny-arcade.com
[20:06:33] <mrcoolbp> poutine: yes and modest eh?
[20:06:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> or we're just not shitheads
[20:06:42] <mrcoolbp> you're most redeeming quality
[20:06:53] * mrcoolbp hops in the shower
[20:07:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, lunch for me. laters.
[20:11:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BC: Class-Action Lawsuit Against Facebook - http://sylnt.us - we-were-wrong-but-we-don't-do-it-now-defence
[20:26:07] <Subsentient> NCommander: sent you the proxy info
[20:26:15] <Subsentient> it's http proxy btw, I forgot to mention
[20:26:48] <NCommander> Subsentient, thanks
[20:26:53] <NCommander> Partial fixed for hosed commenting is live
[20:27:21] <NCommander> paulej72, so threshold itself stilld oesn't QUITE work, you never get the "X comments are below threshold"
[20:28:24] <paulej72> NCommander: that is beacuse I removed this funcionality. The threashold sets what is shown by default. the rest are minimized
[20:29:18] <NCommander> paulej72, yeah, but you should have comments I don't want to see at all, comments I want collasped, and expanded
[20:29:56] <NCommander> paulej72, since if you expand a thread, it will still expand those -1 comments
[20:30:45] <paulej72> NCommander: D1.75
[20:31:10] * NCommander notes this is more D1.25 :-P
[20:31:39] <NCommander> paulej72, the X comments thing can be an actual link
[20:31:42] <paulej72> I thought I explaind this to eveyone and got feedback from users here and noone was upset with this
[20:32:39] <NCommander> paulej72, I remember playing with on dev, but we have relatively few -1 scores
[20:34:33] <NCommander> paulej72, if comments aren't hidden completely, whats the point of the two scores?
[20:34:38] <paulej72> I asked and asked for people to test and after we go live is when everyone starts with what is wrong with the system
[20:35:00] <paulej72> NCommander: that is why the my system only had one.
[20:35:03] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I know how you feel
[20:35:30] * NCommander admits this is largely my fault
[20:35:38] <NCommander> I didn't look at it closely enough on dev
[20:36:03] <mrcoolbp> of course NCommander, everything is your fault = )
[20:36:09] <mrcoolbp> guys gotta run to work
[20:36:16] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, you work on Saturdays? That sucks
[20:36:16] <mrcoolbp> catch ya'll later
[20:36:19] <mrcoolbp> yup
[20:36:36] <mrcoolbp> NCommander: let's shoot for lawyer meeting on Friday if we can
[20:36:51] <paulej72> NCommander: thoes comments that come in as below you threshold require a page reload to work in the old system with collaspibe comment turned on, so I wanted them to be pulled in by default, but not show based on the threshold
[20:36:53] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, I might need you to pick me up and drive then
[20:37:03] <mrcoolbp> from NY?
[20:37:09] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, Boston South Station
[20:37:13] <mrcoolbp> ah that's easy
[20:37:28] <mrcoolbp> we might still be able to do Tuesday then....
[20:37:32] <mrcoolbp> anyway, gotta run
[20:37:34] <mrcoolbp> later!
[20:37:36] <NCommander> mrcoolbp, lets talk later
[20:37:41] <mrcoolbp> yes definitely
[20:37:47] <NCommander> paulej72, give me a moment to think
[20:37:52] <mrcoolbp> peace
[20:37:53] <mrcoolbp> /nick mrcool|afk
[20:37:58] mrcoolbp is now known as mrcool|afk
[20:38:04] <mrcool|afk> (that was weird)
[20:38:38] <NCommander> paulej72, I think a pageload in this case is acceptable so they show up in the right places. I don't usually go to below my threshold, but I do want to know if there are considerable comments below it
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[20:39:29] <NCommander> (i.e., a parent with a lot of comments gets moderated out of existence, as what happened with the snowden thing)
[20:41:06] <paulej72> NCommander: the comments blelow the threshold cause the comments to be repartned and makes the page a bitch to use. I would rather have these come in with a differnt style and possibly not auto open and close with the ++ and - - buttons.
[20:41:55] <NCommander> paulej72, I think the right way to do this is simply reload the page as is (that is, same cid/sid/pid going into comments.pl) with just the score lowered
[20:42:00] <NCommander> So it will render exactly the same way
[20:42:14] <paulej72> NCommander: the old interface was bac for that as it just showed a bunch of low threshold links that may or may not be linked to the correct parent
[20:42:26] <NCommander> paulej72, oh, I completely agree
[20:42:36] * NCommander is debating how best to do this
[20:42:50] <NCommander> I know from experience that we're going to want to be able to hide things
[20:43:14] <NCommander> We're not getting a lot of spam, but its a problem on /., and D2 (which doesn't allow you to fully hide stuff) became unusable because of it for me
[20:43:16] <paulej72> NCommander: we do not need to reload the page to reset this, we just need to make the JS do a bit more and send some more info out on page load
[20:44:37] <NCommander> paulej72, how hard is that going to be?
[20:46:32] <Subsentient> NCommander: Check for code that deliberately inhibits proxies.
[20:46:42] <Subsentient> Some chunks might be left that are causing issues
[20:46:44] <NCommander> Subsentient, I'm checking my email right now
[20:47:04] <NCommander> Subsentient, we've got a partial fix for the improved threading. Its very nice now :-)
[20:47:12] <Subsentient> :^)
[20:47:17] <NCommander> (you can also set your threshold and breakthrough now on the top)
[20:48:46] <paulej72> NCommander: It is a bit of work, and thus why i did not do it for this version.
[20:49:59] <NCommander> Subsentient, I'm plugged into your proxy
[20:50:04] <Subsentient> Ahh good
[20:50:16] <Subsentient> Go here: http://universe2.us
[20:50:23] <Subsentient> It should say 216.161.165.96
[20:50:31] <NCommander> Subsentient, it does
[20:50:37] <Subsentient> good
[20:50:44] * NCommander is figuring out how to login without you MITM my PW :-P
[20:50:46] <Subsentient> NCommander: Now try going to google.com
[20:51:00] <Subsentient> NCommander: lol yeah I don't record anything
[20:51:03] <Subsentient> there are no access logs
[20:51:33] <NCommander> Subsentient, works as AC from here
[20:52:11] <NCommander> Subsentient, and as non-admin
[20:52:12] <NCommander> Hrm
[20:52:40] <Subsentient> hmm
[20:52:44] * Subsentient tries again
[20:53:03] <NCommander> Subsentient, I *can't* login on production
[20:53:05] <NCommander> Very interesting
[20:53:16] <Subsentient> yeah
[20:53:17] <NCommander> Subsentient, so we just ruled out slash as your problem
[20:53:33] <NCommander> its either varnish or the load balancer
[20:53:39] <Subsentient> NCommander: ahh
[20:53:48] <NCommander> Something is mangling your IP coming in
[20:54:12] <NCommander> Subsentient, your proxy just went down
[20:54:28] <Subsentient> NCommander: really? What page?
[20:54:29] <NCommander> Subsentient, or your block Google
[20:54:35] <Subsentient> NCommander: I block google.
[20:54:41] <NCommander> Subsentient, and duckduckgo it seems
[20:54:50] <Subsentient> NCommander: no, duckduckgo is what I use
[20:55:02] <NCommander> Oh
[20:55:04] <Subsentient> NCommander: Try again
[20:55:10] <NCommander> Does your proxy accept HTTPS connections?
[20:55:12] <paulej72> My head hurs
[20:55:13] <Subsentient> Yes.
[20:55:21] <Subsentient> NCommander: wait
[20:55:28] <Subsentient> oh you mean https to the proxy?
[20:55:29] <Subsentient> No.
[20:55:40] <NCommander> Subsentient, no, SSL Proxy field
[20:55:46] <Subsentient> yeah no
[20:56:03] <Subsentient> universe2.us as http, not https is what you must use
[20:56:46] <NCommander> Subsentient, I had to put it in SSL Proxy else I couldn't get to duckduckgo
[20:56:56] <Subsentient> weird.
[20:57:01] <Subsentient> I don't have that issue
[20:57:03] <Subsentient> what browser?
[20:57:09] <Subsentient> Chrome? /me doesn't use chrome
[20:57:31] <Subsentient> And fuck google.
[20:57:33] <Subsentient> :^)
[20:57:56] * NCommander thinks
[20:59:06] <Subsentient> NCommander: I use my proxy mostly as a permanent block for ads and anything social media.
[20:59:19] <NCommander> Subsentient, yeah, but that shouldn't be fouling up varnish/load balancer
[20:59:21] * NCommander is thinking
[20:59:43] <Subsentient> NCommander: Never ever ever put social media on SN. Keep it sane and intelligent. Just had to say that.
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[21:01:04] <Subsentient> NCommander: Also, can you OP aqu4? We needed her last night and nobody had OP. Auto-op perhaps?
[21:02:02] * arti o.o
[21:02:23] <Subsentient> arti: Two words. Ethanol Fueled
[21:02:39] <arti> you're not swayed by his charm?
[21:02:40] <Subsentient> A nice +q would have been suitable
[21:03:07] <Subsentient> Posting about books with brains fried in white wine and served with mushrooms.
[21:03:12] <JamesNZ> I don't think a +q was required.
[21:03:13] <Subsentient> Creepy shit.
[21:03:23] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Nobody asked you! :^3
[21:03:35] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: You got here later than the rest of us
[21:03:39] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: You can't just quiet everyone who talks about creepy subjects.
[21:03:42] <Subsentient> he was also raging on about sex
[21:03:45] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: I'm butting in! :D
[21:04:11] <NCommander> Subsentient, two problems
[21:04:14] <Subsentient> Talking about dick extensions
[21:04:14] <NCommander> .op aqu4
[21:04:14] -!- mode/#Soylent [+o aqu4] by juggler
[21:04:19] <JamesNZ> I don't see a problem with that unless he's being an asshole or disturbing people.
[21:04:24] <NCommander> Subsentient, first, you're telling everyone that your a proxyserver
[21:04:32] <NCommander> Subsentient, second, you're sending X-Forwarded-For on the net
[21:04:38] <NCommander> X-Forwarded-For: unknown
[21:04:50] <Subsentient> NCommander: Yes, that's supposed to be unknown.
[21:04:59] <Subsentient> NCommander: I intentionally tell everyone I'm a proxy.
[21:05:04] <NCommander> Subsentient, I think its the fact that its there at all thats blowing slash up
[21:05:13] <NCommander> or our loadbalancer
[21:05:20] * NCommander pokes more
[21:05:25] * NCommander does some host files magic
[21:06:03] <NCommander> Subsentient, I'm examining the varnish config
[21:06:08] <NCommander> To see what we're doing with it exactly
[21:07:42] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: SN is IMHO not a deliberately "adult" community, and while it's fine for me if people talk about sex, being so obnoxious, vulgar, etc about it and promising to post a link to the porno is not.
[21:08:12] <Subsentient> I'd give him a +q, not a +b.
[21:08:19] <Subsentient> He was just really drunk.
[21:08:57] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: I didn't see where he was going to post a link to a porno, but yeah I agree, that's over the line.
[21:09:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's usually pretty drunk
[21:09:11] <Subsentient> Yeh
[21:09:25] <JamesNZ> TheMightyBuzzard: Well, he is ethanol fueled :P
[21:09:40] <Subsentient> JamesNZ: Indeed. The irony of his nick just recently hit me.
[21:09:51] <arti> :|
[21:10:03] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Heh ;)
[21:10:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> so am i most nights but you don't see me shaking my dick at everybody metaphorically or no
[21:10:43] MrBluze|afk is now known as MrBluze
[21:10:53] <Subsentient> +1
[21:10:53] <NCommander> Subsentient, it looks like you're blowing up the loadbalancer
[21:10:57] <Subsentient> NCommander: lolll
[21:11:14] <MrBluze> the name vote is over
[21:11:18] <NCommander> Subsentient, stand by
[21:11:21] <MrBluze> it's time to say goodbye :)
[21:11:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'one thing to douche it up in the comments, another entirely to troll irc.
[21:11:30] <MrBluze> see u all in the endless sea of the Internet
[21:11:37] <Subsentient> MrBluze: ?
[21:11:47] <Subsentient> $burrito MrBluze
[21:11:48] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at MrBluze
[21:11:53] <Subsentient> You ain't goin' nowhere!
[21:12:22] <swiss> mario kart 8, so good
[21:12:49] <Subsentient> Do they have giant zombie gerbils with saddles I can ride instead of carts?
[21:12:55] <Subsentient> No? NEXT!
[21:12:56] <swiss> nope
[21:12:58] <NCommander> Subsentient, stick this in your hosts file
[21:13:02] <swiss> you do have a yoshi kart
[21:13:02] <NCommander> Subsentient, soylentnews.org 198.58.127.22
[21:13:14] <Subsentient> NCommander: reason?
[21:13:25] <NCommander> Subsentient, bypass the load balancer
[21:13:36] <NCommander> Subsentient, See if you can login properly
[21:13:43] <NCommander> Subsentient, if so, I'll have to yell at LInode for you
[21:14:21] <Subsentient> restarting the proxy
[21:15:15] <MrBluze> looks like xlefay is gone
[21:15:31] <Subsentient> NCommander: That would appear to work, yes.
[21:15:32] <MrBluze> if someone sees him, say hi from me - a friend always leaves a trail and he knows how to find me
[21:15:41] <Subsentient> MR
[21:15:43] <Subsentient> MrBluze:
[21:15:45] <Subsentient> here
[21:15:53] <Subsentient> do $tell xlefay whatever
[21:15:55] <NCommander> Subsentient, the problem is you're sending an X-Forwarded-For header, and that's trippng some sorta sanity check int he loadbalancer
[21:16:16] <Subsentient> NCommander: that's really, really stupid. It should be removed so all proxies can function.
[21:16:23] <NCommander> Subsentient, its not something I control
[21:16:29] <NCommander> Subsentient, this is a HW loadbalancer from LInode
[21:16:34] <Subsentient> NCommander: ahh dammit
[21:16:37] <MrBluze> $tell xlefay see u bro, u have my email. hope you're ok
[21:16:37] <aqu4> I'll tell them in a PM next time I see 'em.
[21:16:39] <MrBluze> cheers
[21:17:00] <NCommander> Subsentient, strictly speaking, you shouldn't be sending XFF over the open internet
[21:17:10] <Subsentient> NCommander: And why not?
[21:17:11] <NCommander> I need to see how its manglining it through the loadbalancer before I bug linode
[21:17:46] <Subsentient> Squid is allowing me to disable it by setting it to unknown, but not by removing it from being sent.
[21:17:48] <NCommander> Subsentient, its meant for reverse-proxies; i.e., proxy->backend server, not for proxy->forward server, there's shit that will break
[21:18:01] <Subsentient> NCommander: Ahh I see.
[21:18:12] <NCommander> Subsentient, put "forwarded_for delete" in your line
[21:18:27] <NCommander> config
[21:18:37] <Subsentient> restarting proxy
[21:18:50] <MrBluze> NCommander: whoever is running IRC now should remove my account and so forth.
[21:19:02] <NCommander> MrBluze, that would be xlefay
[21:19:07] <Subsentient> MrBluze: dude
[21:19:13] <Subsentient> why would you leave us?
[21:19:20] <MrBluze> name
[21:19:22] <Subsentient> Because of the name? Are you shitting me?
[21:19:32] <MrBluze> long story
[21:19:38] * Subsentient has time
[21:19:38] <MrBluze> no hard feelings
[21:20:38] <MrBluze> its ok, i pushed the name vote thing as it was promised and ... beyond hope i hoped
[21:21:04] <MrBluze> but im too busy for this as it is, and u need people who believe in it wholeheartedly
[21:21:24] <MrBluze> its a great project and I highly encourage ppl to contribute
[21:21:30] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Ohh cmon even I look at pipedot from time to time.
[21:21:39] <MrBluze> oh, i dont lol
[21:21:42] <Subsentient> just stay here. No melodrama.
[21:21:45] <MrBluze> i get my news from other sources
[21:22:01] <Subsentient> We have burritos and gerbils.
[21:22:03] <Subsentient> Mostly gerbils.
[21:22:17] <MrBluze> lol, its not melodrama i just wanted to say g'bye
[21:22:22] <Subsentient> MrBluze: ...
[21:22:26] <Subsentient> NOOOOOOOO
[21:22:38] * Subsentient hits the NOOOOOO button
[21:22:42] <Subsentient> $ddg nooooooooooooo.com
[21:22:43] <aqu4> No results found.
[21:22:48] <Subsentient> $ddg nooooooooooo .com
[21:22:49] <aqu4> No results found.
[21:22:50] <Subsentient> ...
[21:23:50] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Just stay with us and enjoy the view.
[21:24:02] * Subsentient moons everyone
[21:26:00] <JamesNZ> SECURITY!
[21:26:11] <JamesNZ> Subsentient: Think of the children!
[21:26:37] <swiss> https://www.youtube.com
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[21:26:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> children appreciate a good mooning more than adults
[21:27:11] <Subsentient> Indeed.
[21:27:19] <Subsentient> $admin list
[21:27:20] <aqu4> List of admins:
[21:27:20] <aqu4> [1] (4OWNER) *!WhiteRat@216.161.ghn.ql
[21:27:21] <aqu4> [2] (4OWNER) *!WhiteRat@universe2.us/Subsentient
[21:27:21] <JamesNZ> ROFL
[21:27:22] <aqu4> End of list.
[21:28:01] <Subsentient> $admin add *!mcasadeva@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mcasadeval
[21:28:01] <aqu4> Admin add successful.
[21:28:10] <Subsentient> NCommander: congrats
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[21:34:30] <MrBluze> thanks for the moon
[21:34:39] <Subsentient> MrBluze: Wait, I have stars too
[21:34:44] <MrBluze> and thanks for all the fish
[21:34:51] <Subsentient> http://universe2.us
[21:35:06] <Subsentient> MrBluze: No don't you go pulling a sentient flying dolphin on us
[21:35:27] <Subsentient> You stay here. Obey your father.
[21:35:33] <Subsentient> Bluze, I am your father!
[21:35:48] <MrBluze> lol mate
[21:35:57] <MrBluze> u can find me on hotmail.com
[21:36:00] <MrBluze> cheers
[21:36:03] <Subsentient> ffffuuuu
[21:36:06] <Subsentient> stay.
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[21:36:14] <chromas> damn
[21:37:19] <NCommander> That was depressing
[21:37:23] <Subsentient> $burrito chromas and Bytram and cosurgi and FoobarBazbot and Landon and mattie_p and mrcool|afk and NCommander and paulej72 and stdhell and _NSAKEY and ancientt and AndyTheAbsurd and Anon3 and ar and arti and AshleyWaffle and boioioing and bryan and bspar and chromas and crutchy and crisp and ....
[21:37:23] * aqu4 chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas and Bytram and cosurgi and FoobarBazbot and Landon and mattie_p and mrcool|afk and NCommander and paulej72 and stdhell and _NSAKEY and ancientt and AndyTheAbsurd and Anon3 and ar and arti and AshleyWaffle and boioioing and bryan and bspar and chromas and crutchy and crisp and ....
[21:37:30] <Subsentient> DAMMITTTTT
[21:37:39] <NCommander> ............................
[21:37:53] * Subsentient gives MrBluze a 100,000,000 burrito salute
[21:38:28] <Bytram> NCommander: Just got back a couple minutes ago... what was depressing?
[21:38:41] <NCommander> Bytram, MrBluze officially left over the name
[21:38:47] <bryan> bah, random dinging window
[21:38:58] * bryan pounces on Subsentient
[21:39:32] <Bytram> NCommander: bummer. I share your sentiment. We did what we promised. Put it to a vote, and even though staff members had other thoughts, agreed to abide by the community's decision.
[21:39:37] <NCommander> bryan, you made me think of this: http://images.ucomics.com
[21:40:30] <Bytram> NCommander: I don't see what else we could have done, given the resources we had and the challenges of keeping the site up and filled with stories to comment on and ... well, you know.
[21:41:17] <Subsentient> Ed's Dong repair?
[21:41:23] <Subsentient> Sounds like a plastic surgery office
[21:41:42] <stderr> What do I need to check in my preferences to avoid having to click the "++" icon to "Open All Comments in Thread" a billion times?
[21:42:29] <stderr> None of the options seems to be the obvious one.
[21:42:37] <Subsentient> Nested is what I use
[21:42:41] <Subsentient> There is no collapsing there
[21:42:55] <Subsentient> I like to read ALL comments.
[21:43:13] <NCommander> stderr, drop your threshold to -1 (second dropdown)
[21:43:20] <NCommander> stderr, or just set it to nested
[21:43:20] <stderr> Me too. Mine was "Improved Threaded" and that used to work.
[21:43:22] * chromas notices that the pages are generated by groups of things again
[21:43:37] <NCommander> stderr, Improved Threaded was a NOP until today, it was just "threaded"
[21:43:59] <stderr> Threshold already at -1 Uncut and Raw...
[21:44:12] <Subsentient> stderr: use nested to see everything.
[21:44:16] <stderr> (And it's dropdown number 3)
[21:44:19] <Subsentient> Threaded will give you your old behaviour.
[21:44:34] * NCommander deep sighs and debates crawling into bed
[21:45:01] <bryan> so what happens to all the neat suggested names like techmatter?
[21:45:02] <stderr> Subsentient: Thanks.
[21:45:09] <Bytram> NCommander: might not be a bad idea... You've been at this upgrade for how long?
[21:45:22] <Subsentient> I liked bitwise news.
[21:45:39] <NCommander> bryan, we begin our great business plan as domain squatters?
[21:45:40] * NCommander ducks
[21:45:54] <stderr> bryan: I paid for two of them about a week ago. The transfer isn't complete yet.
[21:46:12] * Bytram , in agreement, quacks.
[21:46:43] <stderr> Suggestion: When you update the code, try NOT to break how stuff works.
[21:46:54] <bryan> stderr: you get the usb drive yet? wasn't sure about overseas shipping
[21:47:10] <stderr> bryan: Yes. Thanks. :-)
[21:47:14] <bryan> cool :P
[21:47:19] <stderr> Sorry for not saying thanks earlier.
[21:47:31] <stderr> Think I got it two weeks ago?
[21:48:16] <stderr> Haven't used it yet, but then again, I haven't used my FSF member card yet either and I have had that one for years. :-)
[21:48:20] <bryan> had almost half of the 30 or so as non-us addresses
[21:48:26] <bryan> that i sent out
[21:48:26] * Subsentient wonders about bitwise news, the only name he liked better than SN
[21:48:35] * Subsentient wonders what could have been
[21:49:39] * Subsentient afk
[21:49:50] <chromas> Buy it up and use it for something
[21:49:52] <NCommander> bryan, what are these drives?
[21:49:56] <Bytram> it's not all a loss... the bylaws that are under development provide for multiple sites under the LibreNews Foundation umbrella... there just might still be a use for them.
[21:49:59] <chromas> Maybe as a front for qau4burrito
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[21:53:12] <chromas> Seems like Messages are unclickable now
[22:02:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Real-Life Science behind Outrageous Sci-Fi Movies - http://sylnt.us - getting-closer-all-the-time
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[22:05:56] <NCommander> Bytram, meh, we could always use multiple names for the site :-)
[22:06:04] * NCommander licks matt_
[22:06:29] <matt_> NCommander, just popped in to say that I love meetings, and tuesdays, and fridays ;0)
[22:06:30] <Bytram> NCommander: meatavitavegaminanews?
[22:06:41] <NCommander> matt_, are you in MA?
[22:06:57] <matt_> yep, and I have a car, and I'm 10min from Logan Airport...
[22:07:37] <NCommander> matt_, mrcool|afk and I are working out when we're going to go see a lawyer in MA. Want to get in on this mythic journey down the Yellow Brick I-95, to see the Lawyer of Concord? :-)
[22:07:44] <NCommander> s/MA/NH/g
[22:07:45] <SedBot> <NCommander> matt_, mrcool|afk and I are working out when we're going to go see a lawyer in NH. Want to get in on this mythic journey down the Yellow Brick I-95, to see the Lawyer of Concord? :-)
[22:08:04] <NCommander> (or Durham, which is probably where I want to live)
[22:08:17] <matt_> NCommander, sounds like fun!
[22:08:45] <NCommander> Cool, maybe I can find myway to a home!
[22:08:52] * NCommander wonders how many Wizard of Oz references I can cram in
[22:12:02] <arti> we're not in kansas any mor
[22:12:03] <arti> e
[22:15:39] <Bytram> NCommander: if you've got a moment, you might want to read this: http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:35] <NCommander> Bytram, thanks
[22:23:14] <paulej72> NCommander: pull request ready if you are up fot it.
[22:23:34] <Bytram> NCommander: you're welcome!\
[22:24:19] <NCommander> paulej72, appears D2 disabled anyway
[22:24:22] <NCommander> Approved and deploying
[22:30:20] <chromas> heh
[22:30:29] <chromas> RSS feed fixed; atom feed borked
[22:30:59] <chromas> There's no link to the atom one though, so nobody seems to know about it
[22:33:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[22:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> superfluous encode on the atom feed, eh, paulej72?
[22:34:50] <paulej72> cant win
[22:35:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> least the fix is simple for that one
[22:36:41] <paulej72> I think the encode for rss got applied to atom as well
[22:37:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> possibly. really not sure it was needed for either one.
[22:39:28] <paulej72> yes the cdata encode is needed for rss 1.0 as it is xml based and will not parse if there is html insdide. Looks like atom does not like cdata encoded but rather the data encoded the previous way.
[22:42:08] * NCommander is exhausted
[22:42:38] <NCommander> paulej72, Idon't think anyone is going to notice if we quietly burn the atom feed into non-existence
[22:42:44] <NCommander> And unless Atom gets us something ...
[22:43:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1.0 parsed okay for me in firefox and liferea without encode being used on it but that could very well have been a bug in the parsers.
[22:43:12] * Bytram hands NCommander an Atom Bomb =)
[22:43:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, one working as expected feed is enough really
[22:43:50] <paulej72> I told a bunch of people to use the atom feed as it thought it was working while rss was not. I guess I never checked to fully
[22:44:15] <chromas> It was; they switched workingness
[22:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, at the time you told them it was working peachy
[22:44:18] <chromas> Atom's better anyway
[22:44:48] <Bytram> A noob question? How do I access the atom feed? I've got FF LTS (24.something.something)
[22:45:06] <chromas> /index.atom
[22:45:28] <Bytram> chromas: on my way, thanks!
[22:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> really no difference between atom and rss 2.0 for our purposes
[22:45:47] <chromas> Atom has the logo
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[22:46:06] * TheMightyBuzzard does the swirly whoopie finger thing
[22:46:09] <chromas> That is /the/ most important thing
[22:46:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> rss 2 feed shows me the logo too
[22:47:04] <NCommander> paulej72, works good enough to make me happy. Thank you for your undying loyality to our commenting code
[22:47:16] <chromas> How do you get rss2 feed?
[22:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> index.rss is rss2 now, no?
[22:47:39] <paulej72> chromas: hope and pray
[22:47:55] <Bytram> I get a 404 at: http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh nope
[22:48:04] <paulej72> code was never updated to send rss2 feed
[22:48:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> my bad, thought you had done that
[22:48:26] * chromas concurs with NCommander though; good work, good sir
[22:48:56] <paulej72> so the screwy atom code takes the stupid rss feed and rebuilds it.
[22:49:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want to throw up a rss2/atom issue, i can fix them tomorrow or monday.
[22:49:14] <NCommander> er
[22:49:15] <NCommander> oops
[22:49:25] * NCommander just realized you need to close your <b> tags or you'll break the site
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[22:50:00] <Bytram> yes, good work all round!
[22:50:45] * Subsentient wonders about new bot features
[22:50:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> stimulants wearing off too much to get any code done today. getting close to nap:30
[22:50:56] <Bytram> question: does it matter that on the index.atom page, the links to the stories contain: "&from=rss" ??
[22:51:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, only if it matters to the people who look at the stats.
[22:52:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Ah, yes, that makes sense. I never really played around much with RSS before. Taking another try with it, now, it seems to make more sense.
[22:52:26] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: So you are like me in that you need a FUCKTON of energy to code at all?
[22:53:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, it certainly helps but mostly by mid-afternoon my brain is tired and takes three times as long to produce half-assed code.
[22:53:41] <Bytram> for me, I just need a little bit of cuirosity... I wonder, if I do <foo>.... will that really let me <bar>? Yeah! Well, I *think so*, and then my head is down for about an hour or so.
[22:53:58] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: Yeah I got a thyroid issue or something but the doctors don't know what. It's extremely rare for me to ever have energy at all anymore. It's been weeks since I wrote reasonably complicated code.
[22:54:00] * Subsentient cries
[22:54:08] <Bytram> as I try and worry out the gory details that block me from the result I am seeking. =)
[22:54:45] <chromas> Subsentient: it's probably all those burritos you keep in your basement and aqu4's panties
[22:54:58] <Bytram> Subsentient: bummer. Plenty of sleep doesn't help? Nor, I assume, has testing for depression?
[22:55:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> tell them you'd like to try adderall. fix you right up for about 6-8 hours per hit.
[22:57:41] <Bytram> afk for a while
[23:02:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> strangely, there's also index.xml for who the hell knows what reason.
[23:04:12] <chromas> heh, there's even a <department> tag
[23:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yurp. guess it's in case you have a moral objection to rss or atom.
[23:05:28] <chromas> Maybe it was made for generating those and any other feeds
[23:06:12] <Bytram> !uid
[23:06:12] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 4412, owned by umghhh
[23:06:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think so. pretty sure it was just another feed last i looked at the generation bits.
[23:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> had rss2 working on the vm, for a purely functional if incomplete definition of working. may do it again just for kicks.
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[23:36:47] <paulej72> OK fixed atom feed on dev :)
[23:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> takin all my fun again?
[23:41:05] <paulej72> Not really, I broke it so I wanted to fix it. Like the comments today, broke them and had to fix them. It is a bit of OCD or somthing.
[23:41:05] <Bytram> hey all. I've got to head out; things are looking great!! Thanks again for all the hard work!
[23:41:17] <paulej72> thanks Bytram
[23:41:19] <Bytram> paulej72++
[23:41:19] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 19
[23:41:28] <Bytram> let's round that up, shall we?
[23:41:30] <Bytram> paulej72++
[23:41:30] <Bender> karma - paulej72: 20
[23:41:38] <Bytram> that looks MUCH better!
[23:41:42] <Bytram> NCommander++
[23:41:43] <Bender> karma - ncommander: 30
[23:41:44] <Cyprus> even if it is acting a little weird, it's still better than new pages
[23:41:49] <Bytram> nice and round!
[23:41:52] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[23:41:52] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 4
[23:41:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[23:41:56] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 5
[23:41:56] * Cyprus buys the team a round
[23:41:56] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[23:41:56] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 6
[23:42:31] <Bytram> Cyprus++ if I recall correctly, you had the comment scripting stuff?
[23:42:31] <Bender> karma - cyprus: 5
[23:42:41] <Bytram> Cyprus++
[23:42:41] <Bender> karma - cyprus: 6
[23:42:46] <Cyprus> huh?
[23:42:50] <Bytram> mrcool|afk++
[23:42:55] <Bytram> mrcool++
[23:42:55] <Bender> karma - mrcool: 1
[23:43:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'all good. looking at #122 and wondering. does apache even touch the feeds or just pass them directly through without alteration?
[23:43:12] <Bytram> my apologies to anyone I missed.
[23:43:42] <Cyprus> Bytram: what do you mean when you say I had the comment scripting stuff?
[23:43:47] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I believe it plays around with things rather heavily.
[23:44:02] <paulej72> I was removing a bucnh of dead D2 code from Commens.pm and I think something i removed did not sit well with slash. My limited testing did not show an issue, but setting the threshold was not doing what it should have. (comments were showing up when they should not have been). there must have been something sneeky going on.
[23:44:19] <Bytram> I thought you might be the one who donated the GreaseMonkey scripts for expanding/contracting comments.
[23:44:20] * TheMightyBuzzard chin scratches
[23:44:36] <Bytram> might be mistaken on the GM scripts.
[23:44:38] <Bytram> anyway, I gtg.
[23:44:42] <Cyprus> Bytram: nah that wasn't me, I was around though for the convo
[23:44:44] <Bytram> good luck everyone and have fun!
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[23:46:56] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the feed code for index.rss build a url based on if it see http or https from the http request. all of our traffic goes through the loadbablancer with sends it to slash over http. Therefore slash never see that it should build an rss feed with the https:// for all of the internal urls
[23:49:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to have to dig into that and have a look. far as i knew it was directly serving up the files generated by slashd without alteration.
[23:50:20] <paulej72> the orginal GM scripts were acient, and were updated to work by one of our users.
[23:51:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> simple matter to have it write out another with https links i spose but the load balancer kinda precludes doing it dynamically
[23:52:59] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: the loadbalacner does give up the file unadultered, but slash ws generating a specific feed based on the connecion url so if i connected by https://soylentnews.org it would give me a feed with https:// links. but now slash only sees http:// requests as the LB terminates all https connections.
[23:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotcha
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[23:55:31] <Ethanol-fueled> You guys fucking rock! I love night mode!
[23:55:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> slash was taking the index.rss file and effectively doing a s/http/https/ on it after slashd had already generated the feed?
[23:55:51] <Ethanol-fueled> not a big fan of all those bells and whistles you're puttin' in the comments though.
[23:55:55] <Ethanol-fueled> Buzzard
[23:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe ya but sounds crazy
[23:55:59] <Ethanol-fueled> 'sup.
[23:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> sup
[23:56:39] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: I think that is right, but my memory is a bit offf.
[23:56:45] <paulej72> Hi Ethanol-fueled
[23:57:00] <Ethanol-fueled> sup paulej72 - good job you guys are doing on the themes.
[23:57:04] <paulej72> I have grown fond of Night mode myself
[23:58:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll try and trace the bastich through tomorrow or monday. may be some sneaky jiggery-pokery we can do to get it working. barring that it hurts nothing to have index.rsss and index.atoms as well.
[23:58:49] <paulej72> I have a couple of other ones I wanted to do, but I need to rework the images to make them nice. The problem is I don’t have the sorce psd files so I can’t easily make the changes.
[23:59:39] <Ethanol-fueled> paulej72 - making a really obnoxious theme and forcing it on everybody would make a good april fool's day prank.
[23:59:42] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard: looks like you have a leak there that you need to fix :)