#editorial | Logs for 2020-02-20

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[00:03:21] <Bytram> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[00:03:22] <systemd> ^ 03Facebook tells US tax bods: Swear to God, we were only worth $6.5bn in 2010 because we were menaced by... MySpace and smartphones ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[00:03:23] <exec> └─ 13Facebook tells US tax bods: Swear to God, we were only worth $6.5bn in 2010 because we were menaced by... MySpace and smartphones • The Register
[00:18:22] <chromas> What if that app-watching app is the app apping all the data?
[00:18:41] <Bytram> Ding Ding Ding!
[00:19:41] <Bytram> Have everybody who as an IoT device, report it to them, and then they get to see where everybody is when their phone is lit up when it sees one of the registered IoT devices.
[00:19:52] <Bytram> s/ as/ has/
[00:19:53] <exec> <Bytram> Have everybody who has an IoT device, report it to them, and then they get to see where everybody is when their phone is lit up when it sees one of the registered IoT devices.
[00:42:09] <Bytram> whereto? http://www.cmaj.ca
[00:42:11] <systemd> ^ 03Cleaning products and asthma risk: a potentially important public health concern ( https://www.cmaj.ca )
[00:42:18] <Bytram> =cite http://www.cmaj.ca
[00:42:20] <systemd> Cleaning products and asthma risk: a potentially important public health concern [$], <cite>CMAJ</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1503/cmaj.200025">10.1503/cmaj.200025</a>)
[00:44:01] <Bytram> =cite https://www.cmaj.ca
[00:44:05] <systemd> Association of use of cleaning products with respiratory health in a Canadian birth cohort [$], <cite>CMAJ</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1503/cmaj.190819">10.1503/cmaj.190819</a>)
[00:47:40] <Bytram> chromas: Maybe I'm getting lucky with my add and cookie blockers, but I am able to view both of those journal articles for free. Just click and read.
[01:15:36] <Bytram> .
[01:18:34] <Bytram> ~eds I am going to be working on trying to upgrade my laptop for the next day or so. Will be mostly unable to get online except by using my cell phone. I've stuffed the queue as best I can. I'd very much appreciate if it we could try and keep a half-day's worth of stories queued up. If something urgent comes up, TMB, cmn32480, and Fnord666 have my phone number.
[01:18:35] <exec> editor ping for Bytram (reason: i am going to be working on trying to upgrade my laptop for the next day or so. will be mostly unable to get online except by using my cell phone. i've stuffed the queue as best i can. i'd very much appreciate if it we could try and keep a half-day's worth of stories queued up. if something urgent comes up, tmb, cmn32480, and fnord666 have my phone number.): janrinok n1 nick Bytram cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away
[01:19:49] <Bytram> Ohhhh. ^^^ is going to need to be updated. It's already missing spiraldancing, and there should be a couple more onboarding in the next week or so.
[01:20:22] <Bytram> Oh, and "Bytram|away" can be removed from ^^^ as well.
[01:20:42] <Bytram> Thanhs everybody!
[01:20:56] <Fnord666> :)
[01:49:16] <Bytram> whereto? https://go.theregister.co.uk
[01:49:18] <systemd> ^ 03Now Internet Society told to halt controversial .org sale… by its own advisory council: 'You misread the community mindset around dot-org' ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[01:49:18] <exec> └─ 13Now Internet Society told to halt controversial .org sale… by its own advisory council: 'You misread the community mindset around dot-org' • The Register
[02:20:04] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[02:20:06] <exec> └─ 13Findings from NASA's Juno update Jupiter water mystery
[02:20:06] <systemd> Submitting "Findings from NASA's Juno update Jupiter water mystery"...
[02:20:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Findings From NASA's Juno Update Jupiter Water Mystery" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:29:06] * Bytram heads off to bed. Have a great night everybody
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[03:55:44] <chromas> Bytram: #MeToo
[03:56:01] <chromas> The meta tag says "Restricted" though.
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[08:54:32] <janrinok> ~tell AzumaHazuki I hope that things went well for you yesterday - when do you get the results? We'll keep our fingers crossed for you!
[10:24:29] <janrinok> Bytram - why doesn't your message to ~eds also go to cmn32480, fnord666? I can understand updates being required for the latest eds, but surely the list is more up-to-date than it currently appears?
[14:31:11] <Bytram> janrinok: It's something on exec... I have no control over who is on the list. :( You are correct it omitted Fnord666, but it did at least include cmn32480.
[14:33:11] <Bytram> Getting exec updated is... not easy. Maybe this is something that chromas would like to write a command for? e.g.: =eds [help | add | list | delete]
[14:33:50] <Bytram> Hmmm, I wonder if there is an IRC command to list all the nicks currently in a channel?
[14:34:21] <janrinok> HexChat has a window which displays exactly that information
[14:35:32] <janrinok> what IRC s'ware are you using?
[14:35:52] <Bytram> yeah, but I was looking for a command... a quick search may have done it! Hold on, I'm seeing: /JOIN #chan and then /NAMES #chan (cf: https://stackoverflow.com)
[14:35:53] <systemd> ^ 03Is there any way to get the users of an IRC channel without joining it?
[14:35:53] <janrinok> .... and how is the lappy coming along?
[14:35:54] <exec> └─ 13Is there any way to get the users of an IRC channel without joining it? - Stack Overflow
[14:36:09] <Bytram> Woo Hoo!
[14:36:28] <Bytram> Hrmmm, I think it was only sent to me... brb
[14:37:16] <janrinok> that command does nothing for me
[14:38:39] <Bytram> WOW! This looks really handy. "List of Internet Relay Chat commands" at: https://simple.wikipedia.org
[14:38:40] <systemd> ^ 03List of Internet Relay Chat commands - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[14:38:40] <exec> └─ 13List of Internet Relay Chat commands - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[14:39:47] <Bytram> brb
[14:40:53] <Bytram> Okay, just confirmed that the info that was presented was sent only to me and not to the entire channel (cf: https://logs.sylnt.us)
[14:40:54] <systemd> ^ 03404 Not Found
[14:40:54] <exec> └─ 13404 Not Found
[14:41:00] <Bytram> Okay, just confirmed that the info that was presented was sent only to me and not to the entire channel (cf: https://logs.sylnt.us )
[14:41:01] <systemd> ^ 03#editorial | Logs for 2020-02-20
[14:41:02] <exec> └─ 13#editorial | Logs for 2020-02-20
[14:41:07] <Bytram> lol
[14:41:47] <janrinok> is your new lappy up and running now?
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[14:44:36] <janrinok> Bytram, ping
[14:45:05] <Bytram> No. By the time we got to at least 12 hours of stories queued up, it was late and I was tired. Decided it best to try the drive copy (do NOT want to do that in the wrong direction!) when I was more rested. Also wanted to be a little more comfortable with the syntax and semantics of ddrescue. At least I was able to burn systemrescuecd to a DVD. Also,
[14:46:43] <Bytram> when rebooting my lappy, it takes me the better part of 15 minutes to half an hour to get all the programs and windows loaded and located where I like them. With hibernate/restore, is easy peasy. But, if I am going to clone my hard disk, I would prefer to do it from a quiescent condition, so that means starting after a known, good, shutdown.
[14:47:07] <janrinok> understood - have you got a minute to chat?
[14:47:17] <Bytram> sure
[14:48:40] <janrinok> On the Early Warning story that you processed this am, you noted that it was a Phys.Org story taken from another source. You do realise that it was submitted by a bot don't you? How is the bot supposed to know? It is the editor's job to look for things like that, isn't it?
[15:34:22] <Bytram> Oh, the short answer is that I just recently discovered that -- much like ScienceDaily -- phys.org often presents a nearly verbatim of something sourced elsewhere -- which likely has better presentation (italics, links within story, pictures), and oftentimes have a direct link to the corresponding Journal Article.
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[16:48:26] <janrinok> k
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