#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-15

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[01:07:26] Bytram|hiding is now known as Bytram
[01:07:42] Bytram is now known as Bytram|hiding
[01:15:44] Bytram|hiding is now known as Bytramm
[01:22:48] <Bytramm> cmn32480++ fine job helping the new eds get started!
[01:22:49] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 74
[01:23:02] <Bytramm> did I see that there were 3 or 4 volunteers?
[01:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> four that i know of and at least 2-3 more in the comments that need contacted
[01:31:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> so far we have snow, sea, and cockroach hooked up
[01:32:36] <Bytramm> nod nod; who was the 4th?
[01:33:00] <Bytramm> I saw the 2 in the story's comments.
[01:33:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, i forget.
[01:34:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> julian. he's not on dev yet though
[01:35:10] <Bytramm> yeah, saw him volunteer in the comments -- saw he'd posted his reall email addy -- many thanks for clearing that up!
[01:35:31] <Bytramm> biab laundry
[02:07:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> eds: updated the call to arms story with some destructions on what to expect/do.
[02:17:49] -!- goodie [goodie!~c0dec36c@qopzs-420.550.973.936.electronicbox.net] has joined #editorial
[02:18:45] <goodie> hi there, coming late to the party but if there's still help needed for editorial duties, I'd be happy to give a hand (constant throughput not guaranteed :p )
[02:19:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake cmn32480
[02:19:02] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with a brick in a sock
[02:19:17] <Bytramm> goodie: goody!
[02:19:36] <Bytramm> sorry, couldn't resist.
[02:19:43] <Bytramm> just a moment
[02:20:02] <cmn32480> !Woop!
[02:20:16] <cmn32480> goodie makes 5 bytram
[02:20:24] <cmn32480> the dept. just doubled
[02:20:42] <cmn32480> i think that gets janrinok promoted to Director level or VP or some such
[02:20:52] <cmn32480> goodie: welcome
[02:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, more than that if you lot send out emails to the ones who volunteered in comments
[02:20:58] <Bytramm> zounds about rite
[02:21:01] <cmn32480> working on it
[02:21:14] <cmn32480> I had Cub Scouts adn work and other more personal things to do
[02:21:34] <Bytramm> your "training session" was in this channel, right?
[02:21:41] * cmn32480 jsut sat down and is apparently on a bytram like schedule for dinner
[02:21:47] <cmn32480> yep
[02:21:52] <cmn32480> started around 10am eastern
[02:22:55] <Bytramm> here's a linky: https://logs.sylnt.us
[02:22:57] <exec> └─ 13#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-14
[02:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> goodie's set up on dev
[02:23:16] <Bytramm> that's when sea' first chimed in that s/he was interested in being an editor.
[02:23:17] <cmn32480> goodie: do you have an account on dev?
[02:23:41] <goodie> nope, nothing yet, just a regular user
[02:23:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what you think
[02:23:54] <Bytramm> lol
[02:23:57] <goodie> lol
[02:23:57] <cmn32480> ok
[02:24:11] <cmn32480> get yourself an account created on https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:24:14] <exec> └─ 13Dev.SN: Dev.SN is dead developers
[02:24:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> dev uses an old db from live. your account was already there so i promoted you already.
[02:24:34] <Bytramm> afk biab
[02:24:45] <goodie> ok thanks
[02:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyone over uid 4055 needs to create a new account on dev. everyone else should be golden.
[02:25:41] <Bytramm> on second thought, I'm gonna call it an early night... have been running on empty for too many nights in a row.
[02:25:43] <cmn32480> excellent
[02:25:56] <cmn32480> you are a DRB Bytramm
[02:26:05] <Bytramm> so glad the call for editors was fruitful!
[02:26:11] <cmn32480> sure looks like it
[02:26:14] <Bytramm> umm dare I ask? DRB?
[02:26:22] <cmn32480> we might even be able to take a day off sometime soon
[02:26:28] <cmn32480> Dirty Rat Bastard
[02:26:35] <Bytramm> oh, sorry.
[02:26:53] <cmn32480> Dirty Rotten Booger?
[02:27:09] <Bytramm> Damn Right, Bucko!
[02:27:26] <cmn32480> lol
[02:27:29] <cmn32480> ~gngiht bytram
[02:27:39] <Bytramm> Donald's Republican Bushwacker
[02:27:52] <Bytramm> ~gnight cmn32480
[02:27:54] * exec analiciously hallucinates a set of maturity juice with cmn32480
[02:27:54] <cmn32480> ~gnight Bytramm
[02:27:56] * exec half-heartedly kipes a 5¼" floppy disk of litter box tootsie rolls from Bytramm
[02:28:25] <Bytramm> I'm not sure, but I think you might have won that one
[02:28:42] <Bytramm> laters
[02:28:47] <cmn32480> night
[02:28:48] <cmn32480> I won
[02:28:52] Bytramm is now known as Bytram|away
[02:29:00] <cmn32480> goodie: sorry it's been a long day
[02:29:08] <goodie> boy, there's no way i'll get confused between dev and prod with those colors :D
[02:29:13] <cmn32480> you saw that link above, to the logs?
[02:29:22] <cmn32480> that'd be the point!
[02:29:31] <cmn32480> your pink?
[02:29:40] <goodie> yep pink on dev
[02:29:58] <cmn32480> OMG PWNIES!
[02:30:01] <cmn32480> is the thems
[02:30:13] <goodie> yes i saw the link to the log
[02:30:48] <cmn32480> if you follow along to what I typed, it will give a basic overview
[02:31:00] <cmn32480> I'm literally jsut sitting down after a hella long day
[02:31:06] <cmn32480> what's your TZ?
[02:31:11] <cmn32480> timezone
[02:31:17] <goodie> eastern
[02:31:21] <cmn32480> sweel;
[02:31:28] <goodie> i think like others around here
[02:31:39] <cmn32480> that puts a whole bunch of us on the east coast
[02:31:44] <cmn32480> makes having a conversation easy
[02:31:55] <goodie> it's all good i'll read up the logs at my pace no worries
[02:32:06] <cmn32480> ther are 4 or 5, and I haven't contacted the volunteers form the commetns yet
[02:32:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> feel free to poke around on the edity interface of dev too. if you break it we just recruit you for QA as well.
[02:32:47] <cmn32480> I am thoroughly tickled that we have this many people interested.
[02:32:57] <cmn32480> yeah
[02:33:05] <cmn32480> try not to break it... that QA gig is a pain in the ass
[02:33:13] <goodie> figured...
[02:33:25] <cmn32480> I do a little of it when I break stuff
[02:33:39] <cmn32480> truth: it's a good group here.
[02:34:10] <cmn32480> what's your availability over the next few days on IRC?
[02:34:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. hasn't been a cross word aside from some heated debates about the best firewall rules to put in place and the like.
[02:34:33] <cmn32480> that was a heated technical discussion between people who know a lot
[02:34:50] <goodie> but that's ok though, as long as people can understand each other's points
[02:35:01] <goodie> it's more or less expected in dev from my experience
[02:35:08] <cmn32480> it is a pretty easy group to get along with.
[02:35:17] <cmn32480> but there are a few of tus that are rather... opinionated
[02:35:30] * cmn32480 looks at TMB
[02:35:31] * TheMightyBuzzard whistles innocently
[02:36:10] <cmn32480> but take a poke at that log, see what you think. I'm at a customer site tomorrow, but janrinok is usually on during the day. So is CoolHand
[02:36:21] <goodie> lol. over the next few days I will be around on and off in the evenings, probably sometimes during the day too depending on my availability
[02:36:24] <cmn32480> I will be back on tomorrow night
[02:36:34] <cmn32480> no problem!
[02:36:58] <goodie> sounds good I'll check out the logs, dev and disregard the bewbs topics ;)
[02:37:08] <cmn32480> that is a Nexus
[02:37:30] <cmn32480> welcome
[02:37:47] <cmn32480> feel free to email any questions. cmn32480 at soylentnews dot org
[02:38:13] <cmn32480> my phone checks that account about every 15-30 min
[02:38:28] <goodie> will do thanks. I will probably freeze after I read everything and try to actually do something
[02:38:42] <goodie> Is that more frequent than the checking for customer calls ;) ?
[02:39:02] <cmn32480> yes
[02:39:05] <cmn32480> yes it is
[02:39:08] <cmn32480> but don't tell my boss
[02:39:23] <cmn32480> bbreak the everlovin' hell out of dev. that is what it is for
[02:39:36] <cmn32480> keeps tMB earnigh his salary
[02:42:33] <goodie> I had not even noticed the admin bar after having my eyes ripped by the theme, haha
[02:42:44] <cmn32480> lol
[02:42:46] <cmn32480> yeah
[02:42:55] <cmn32480> better that then April 1
[02:43:08] <cmn32480> don't go there.. think early 90's Geocities
[02:45:02] <goodie> I kinda miss that... probably just the nostalgy talking
[02:45:22] <cmn32480> it is there... select your theme... under user prefs
[02:48:57] <goodie> ok time to look stupid already... under Preferences in the left main tab I don't see anywhere where I can set a theme. It should be here? https://dev.soylentnews.org
[02:48:59] <exec> └─ 13Log In
[02:49:23] <cmn32480> one sec
[02:49:27] <cmn32480> logging into dev
[02:49:40] <cmn32480> ye gads the pink is overwhelmiong
[02:49:47] <goodie> told ya
[02:50:21] <cmn32480> click the "Homepage" tab at the top
[02:50:35] <cmn32480> I was on here earlier.. hence the logs you are reading
[02:50:56] <cmn32480> but it is still like a smake in the face
[02:51:03] <cmn32480> #smake OMG PWNIES!
[02:51:03] * MrPlow smakes OMG PWNIES! upside the head with lesbian gas
[02:52:00] * cmn32480 is gonna go put somethign in the toaster oven for dinner
[02:52:01] <cmn32480> brb
[02:52:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, yes i did intentionally set everyone's theme to omg pwnies on dev
[02:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm evil like that
[02:53:39] <goodie> okay that's taken care of... (tried the April 1 and my eyes just hurt too much already from staring at a screen all day, I found something more... ahem toned down)
[02:54:31] <cmn32480> just make sure it is different from your prod theme
[02:54:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig black icicle myself but i use default on dev so the favicon is different on my bookmarks bar
[02:55:41] <goodie> I picked a different theme no worries
[02:55:45] <cmn32480> mostly we don't hang out on dev... so that helps
[02:59:04] <goodie> but it's good to have it for training I am sure. I can imagine there are funny stories about things being pushed in prod and someone going uh-oh a few minutes/seconds later :)
[02:59:59] <cmn32480> we are pretty careful
[03:00:03] <cmn32480> but it does happen
[03:00:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> and then we all laugh and mock whoever did it
[03:01:45] <cmn32480> and gracefully un-f**k whatever the person did
[03:01:54] <cmn32480> like the Election story
[03:02:09] * TheMightyBuzzard snickers
[03:02:19] <goodie> ...and then blame some screw up from the service provider or something ;) j/k
[03:02:21] <cmn32480> I hit refresh and overwrote it with the original one line of copy...
[03:02:39] <cmn32480> after there were 150 comments on it
[03:02:46] <goodie> see this is why my first edit will take a loooong time probablu
[03:03:01] <goodie> so you mean to say that the outcome of the election was influenced by your mistake?
[03:03:06] <cmn32480> your first edits will be carefully controlled nad checked
[03:03:23] <cmn32480> nah.. dead voters had more of an impact
[03:04:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're always late with the news so folks got time to ponder on it and get a good comment or two queued up in their brain
[03:04:52] <cmn32480> 3 additionals in the commetns that haven't already contacted us buzzard
[03:05:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that more than doubles the editorial staff. yall might even get a day off once in a while.
[03:05:23] <cmn32480> that makes like 7? people who said they at least wanted a look see at that job
[03:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> eight at least
[03:05:51] <cmn32480> we were talking to 4 this morning, goodie, and 3 additinal
[03:05:53] <cmn32480> makes 8
[03:06:03] <cmn32480> no more full days of one editor
[03:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, probably
[03:06:49] <cmn32480> unless we get on and jsut start pumping out p666 stories
[03:07:04] <cmn32480> hell free time! I might actually read the site!
[03:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> why would you wanna go and do a thing like that?
[03:07:41] <goodie> don't waste your time that site is rubbish!
[03:07:42] <goodie> what's the queue size target you guys like to have?
[03:07:51] <cmn32480> see what all i'm busting my ass for.. troll some people
[03:07:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> story or submission?
[03:08:01] <cmn32480> submission is 20+
[03:08:12] <cmn32480> story is 12-24 hours
[03:08:18] <cmn32480> more on a holiday weekend
[03:08:39] <cmn32480> last year, we busted out 3 days worrth of stories and all took the weekend off
[03:08:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, for some reason they don't wanna edit when they actually have the time to
[03:08:48] <cmn32480> around Halloween I think
[03:08:59] <cmn32480> L
[03:09:00] <cmn32480> A
[03:09:01] <cmn32480> Z
[03:09:02] <cmn32480> Y
[03:09:05] <goodie> ok. I was just wondering because if there is a lot of stuff then it may "dilute" some of the info I guess
[03:09:19] <cmn32480> nope
[03:09:33] <cmn32480> just push the next one out 90 minutes or so
[03:10:01] <goodie> Honestly, between work, family, life (haha yeah right!) and so on it's no easy feat!
[03:10:01] <cmn32480> flip side.. when we are flush with subs, we get more picky
[03:10:12] <cmn32480> trust me.. we know
[03:10:26] <cmn32480> but thanks just the same
[03:10:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> phoenix666 will become your most favorite user very quickly
[03:11:02] <cmn32480> phoenix666++
[03:11:02] <Bender> karma - phoenix666: 8
[03:11:18] <cmn32480> our by far most prolific submitter
[03:11:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> some days he just comes along and is like "here, have twenty ready to push submissions"
[03:11:35] <cmn32480> and he subs good stuff
[03:11:51] <cmn32480> and we thank the gods
[03:12:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! nobody noticed my typo yet
[03:12:52] <cmn32480> in the comments?
[03:13:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp, in the story
[03:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> unclosed bracket
[03:13:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm leaving it until someone notices
[03:14:01] <cmn32480> whatever
[03:14:08] <cmn32480> long as it ain't an unclosed html tag
[03:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> <audio autoplay><source src="never gonna give you up.mp3" type="audio/mpeg"></audio>
[03:18:16] <cmn32480> ahhhh yeah.. the rick roll!
[03:18:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> is that still active on dev?
[03:18:50] <cmn32480> unknown
[03:18:57] <cmn32480> I dont' know whare to look
[03:19:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, looks like i commented it out
[03:22:07] <cmn32480> interesting.. a bunch of the guys that volunteered in the comments are subbing stories
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[03:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> even better
[03:23:30] <cmn32480> so far, I'm pretty impressed with the folk who have volunteered.
[03:23:41] <cmn32480> everybody has asked good questions
[03:23:55] <cmn32480> he was one of the volunteers this morning
[03:25:35] <goodie> so, just to make sure I get it right (been reading up the log while going around dev), for now I can only play on dev and not effectively do any harm on prod correct?
[03:25:46] <cmn32480> correct
[03:25:55] <cmn32480> break the everlovin' crap out of it
[03:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> right. break dev all you like and we have an easy fix.
[03:26:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[03:26:01] * exec points at Bytram
[03:26:06] <cmn32480> and only TMB will pull out what remains of his hair
[03:26:19] <cmn32480> that works too
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[03:26:57] <goodie> Sounds good. I'll let you guys know when I think I'm ready for prod or is there some sort of hazing ritual going on ;) ?
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[03:27:40] <cmn32480> oh
[03:27:41] <cmn32480> no
[03:27:45] <cmn32480> total hazing ritual
[03:27:54] <cmn32480> the log you are working throuhg is step one
[03:28:01] <cmn32480> familiariazation wiht the interface
[03:28:11] <cmn32480> there are links in there to the wiki and the editorial guidelines
[03:28:27] <cmn32480> at least pretend to read them
[03:28:59] * cmn32480 has been here almost 2 years and still has no idea what they say
[03:29:44] <goodie> It's hard to concentrate on what to do as you guys were throwing jokes at one another lol
[03:29:58] <cmn32480> welcome to real life!
[03:30:14] <cmn32480> I've been editing on prod to put stuff in the story queu for tomorrow while we have been yammering
[03:30:37] <cmn32480> goodie - it is somethign that you get used to.
[03:30:46] <cmn32480> and it gets easier with practice
[03:31:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, feel free to ignore us. we do.
[03:32:08] <cmn32480> huh? wut?
[03:33:41] <goodie> I kinda like that, miss the old usenet days back when people would complain because noise would get them to download unnecessary contents on their 56k modem :)
[03:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> goodie, i'll be semi-amazed if you can find something worth turning into an actual story in that mess of a subs queue on dev. i'd cheat and go sub your own.
[03:34:31] <cmn32480> buncha stiuff frm Arthur]
[03:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> is there?
[03:34:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, good.
[03:34:41] <cmn32480> there was
[03:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought it was all bewbs and talk about my butt
[03:35:10] <cmn32480> x and exec all have some too
[03:35:17] <cmn32480> and MrPlow
[03:36:03] <goodie> quite a few x from what I see
[03:36:11] <cmn32480> I'm looking at the list
[03:36:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> i always pity you lot when i sub something through MrPlow
[03:36:20] <cmn32480> x, exec, and mrplow are all IRC bot submissions
[03:36:25] <goodie> I might be poking around those as they require editing
[03:36:34] <cmn32480> a LOT of editing
[03:36:53] <cmn32480> stuff From Arthur T Knackerbracket is alos script driven
[03:36:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit http://www.nbcnews.com
[03:36:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[03:37:05] <cmn32480> give you an entire story complete w/ links, etc.
[03:37:20] <goodie> noice
[03:37:23] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[03:37:42] <cmn32480> some days, this job is a "work wiht what you got" scenario
[03:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, MrPlow, exec, and x you gotta fill out. arthur you gotta cut out.
[03:37:59] <cmn32480> basically
[03:38:08] <cmn32480> butbetter that than tumbleweeds
[03:38:42] <goodie> just to understand, that sub is for prod no?
[03:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt drifting along in the tumbleweeds
[03:38:45] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[03:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep.
[03:39:13] <cmn32480> yes
[03:39:26] <cmn32480> anythign subbed from IRD is currenlty to prod
[03:39:27] <goodie> ok sorry I thought it was to show me something
[03:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i switch him to debug mode he pushes them to dev but normally we want them going to prod.
[03:40:06] <cmn32480> there are a couple MRPLow subs in there
[03:40:12] <cmn32480> you can poke them
[03:40:32] <goodie> ok. beer time.
[03:40:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, you can stay.
[03:40:49] <cmn32480> lol
[03:41:11] * TheMightyBuzzard breaks into the homemade wine instead tonight
[03:41:16] <cmn32480> goodie - take a poke at it and let us know what you think
[03:41:50] <cmn32480> we all show as being here on IRC, but we are on the staff bouncer which keeps us logged in for messages all the time
[03:42:19] <cmn32480> you can also use the ~tell commadn from exec
[03:42:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> or #tell from MrPlow
[03:42:42] <cmn32480> ~tell TheMightyBuzzard You, sir, are an asshole!
[03:42:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> #tell cmn32480 duh
[03:42:52] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[03:42:59] <goodie> lol
[03:43:12] <cmn32480> and we get a pm next time we open outr big fat yaps
[03:43:47] <goodie> I'll poke around dev tonight and tomorrow when I have some free time and will let you know if I got questions
[03:43:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, crap. yall been entertaining me and kept me up nearly an hour past bedtime.
[03:44:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> sleep now
[03:44:17] <cmn32480> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[03:44:20] * exec disturbingly gives a tablespoonful of supernintendo chalmers to TheMightyBuzzard
[03:44:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight cmn32480
[03:44:27] * exec prematurely irritates a big floppy donkey dick of spitwads with cmn32480
[03:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i definitely won that one
[03:44:37] <goodie> `~gnight TheMightBuzzard
[03:44:41] <goodie> ~gnight TheMightBuzzard
[03:44:41] <cmn32480> no question
[03:44:43] * exec explicitly deallocates an old shoe full of bacon grease from TheMightBuzzard
[03:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmmm, bacon grease
[03:44:55] <goodie> I knew it
[03:44:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight goodie
[03:44:58] * exec dexterously reverse-engineers a quart of vindication from goodie
[03:45:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon grease still wins
[03:45:17] <goodie> sure does
[03:45:22] <goodie> that'll put right to sleep!
[03:45:46] <cmn32480> my fear woudl be that he needs the lube before he goes to sleep
[03:46:42] <goodie> well that floppy donkey dick of his has got to take some space...
[03:47:00] <cmn32480> lol
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[03:56:48] * cmn32480 squeals "No Mas"
[03:56:57] <cmn32480> time for bed... gotta be up early tomorrow
[03:57:11] <cmn32480> ~gnight #editorial
[03:57:13] * exec metrosexually farts a pint of speed at #editorial
[03:57:22] <cmn32480> welcome all ye newcomers
[03:57:53] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok, Bytram|away - the others in the comments were caffeine, mrpg and Gaaark
[04:00:20] <goodie> ~gnight cmn32480
[04:00:21] * exec sardonically coalesces a pipe of nuts with cmn32480
[04:00:28] <cmn32480> ~gnight goodie
[04:00:30] * exec provocatively imagines Santa's bag of terr'ists with goodie
[04:06:07] <goodie> ~gnight y'all I'll be dreaming of pink ponies tonight apparently ;)
[04:06:09] * exec faithfully rubs a safespace of includes on y'all
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[04:07:29] <SoyCow7775> Did the editorial ranks fill to the required number of volunteers? If not, I'm sure I could be of use at least in fixing submissions and queuing stories.
[04:43:38] <SoyCow7775> This IRC stuff is weird. How does anyone live without emoticons and embedded videos?
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[05:34:49] <Fnord666> So how are you all doing in the search for additional editors?
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[07:59:51] <FatPhil> "Hi, please abuse me"
[08:00:21] <janrinok> FatPhil, we'd be glad to have you join us.
[08:01:16] <FatPhil> problems shared are problems halved!
[08:01:22] <janrinok> Have you created an account on dev . soylentnews . org ?
[08:01:34] <FatPhil> yup, FatPhil
[08:02:20] <janrinok> great - I'll message one of the team to give you editorial privs on that system. Might take an hour or two as most of them are still asleep
[08:02:54] <FatPhil> I'm just about to wake up and go to work, so there's no huge rush
[08:02:58] <janrinok> ~tell TheMightyBuzzard Can you give FatPhil editorial privs on dev please
[08:03:37] <janrinok> but thanks for volunteering. We certainly need more Europeans, or at least people who live in our tz
[08:05:18] <janrinok> ~eds FatPhil has volunteered to join us
[08:05:19] <exec> editor ping for janrinok (reason: fatphil has volunteered to join us): janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away
[08:42:18] <janrinok> ~tell Fnord666 - we have received some volunteers but there is always room for more if you are interested?
[08:43:26] <Subsentient> The irony in the request for editors is I would've probably helped if someone hadn't removed my privileges... :^|
[09:01:13] <janrinok> Subsentient, the privs were purged for security reasons. Anyone who hadn't edited for a significant period of time had their privs removed. If you want to rejoin us it is simple to have them reinstituted.
[09:02:13] <Subsentient> janrinok: I'd like to help when I can. Was the determination of a significant time automated or judged by humans? I had occasionally been fixing typos, titles, formatting etc.
[09:03:50] <janrinok> it was done by looking down the list of Authors for stories over a period of several months. If your name didn't appear then the privs were removed. Others had the same problem and had them reinstated.
[09:04:45] <janrinok> we were pretty vulnerable to certain attacks if someone had privs on the system and wasn't using them. It was applied over all teams, not just editorial
[09:14:58] <janrinok> Subsentient, if you want your privs back let me know
[09:15:07] janrinok is now known as janrinok_afk
[09:16:05] <FatPhil> Hmmm, what's wrong with "/away"?
[09:16:13] <Subsentient> janrinok_afk: Yes please.
[09:19:14] <janrinok_afk> The reason your contribution hadn't been noted - although we are grateful for it - was that it wasn't relieving the overstretch on the editorial team. The cry for more volunteers was because we have a few people who are now beginning to have serious issues resulting from the effort that they are putting into the site. Spreading that load will make a huge difference to us all.
[09:27:09] <FatPhil> What the captain means is that the reason your contribution hadn't been noted is because you're wrong and a grotesquely ugly freak!
[09:30:59] <FatPhil> Which reminds me, it's time for a rewatch of /Brass Eye/.
[11:22:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, you have super powers on dev now
[11:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Subsentient, you have privs on prod again
[11:23:08] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks
[11:23:57] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: If you give me access to the SN servers, I'll use them for pointless offtopic bullshit.
[11:24:05] <Subsentient> So can I get an ssh login? :^3
[11:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i knew how to add ssh keys to our not-ldap setup, sure
[11:26:21] <Subsentient> hehe
[11:26:37] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: how's it going?
[11:27:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> let ya know after the coffee kicks in. currently i'm having to make sure the right end of me hits the chair cushion.
[11:28:19] <Subsentient> TheMightyBuzzard: hehehe well mornin
[12:05:20] <sea> I'm up
[12:07:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday sea
[12:07:33] * exec slowly integrates an exabyte of stahhhp! with sea
[12:08:43] <sea> Aww
[12:08:46] <sea> I feel so loved
[12:09:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, i missed my 6am smoke. must correct that.
[12:19:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite cmn32480
[12:19:05] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[12:20:09] <MrPlow> #fite TheMightyBuzzard falls broken at cmn32480's feet.
[12:20:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> doh!
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[13:05:09] <CoolHand> ~gday cockroach
[13:05:10] * exec clumsily tosses a fat16 volume of mail tiers to cockroach
[13:10:27] <cockroach> hi!
[13:15:44] <CoolHand> how's it?
[14:20:36] <cockroach> nothing to complain about :). you?
[14:45:23] <CoolHand> alright..
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[14:56:34] <janrinok> ~gday CoolHand
[14:56:36] * exec proverbially integrates a tremendouns number of skittles with CoolHand
[14:56:39] <janrinok> ~gday cockroach
[14:56:41] * exec prematurely tosses a buttload of seven of nine to cockroach
[15:04:11] <cockroach> hey janrinok
[15:04:39] <janrinok> is it beginning to make sense? And, if so, can you explain it to me...?
[15:07:15] <cockroach> i've had a bit of a situation where I created a mess with my password safe so I failed entirely to log in last night.
[15:07:30] <cockroach> i.e. "no" :)
[15:07:33] <janrinok> lol - I don't think you can blame the site for that
[15:08:05] <cockroach> i'm trying very hard to find a way to blame you, personally.
[15:08:15] <janrinok> that is usually easy
[15:08:18] <janrinok> ~blame
[15:08:19] * exec points at Bytram
[15:08:27] <janrinok> see, it's Bytram|away's fault
[15:08:42] <cockroach> that bastard
[15:10:35] <janrinok> once you are used to the interface, give me (or cmn32480) a shout and we can talk you through the whole process, including gotchas and pitfalls
[15:11:13] <janrinok> but, for the time being, work at your own pace. We don't know how much time you have available or when
[15:12:48] <cockroach> aye, thanks, I'll let you know when I think I'm ready for the next phase.
[15:14:22] <CoolHand> ~gday janrinok
[15:14:24] * exec unjustifiably vomits my butt of feministing droppings on janrinok
[15:15:14] <janrinok> hi CH, I was editing a story and noticed that you were editing the same one - but the computer said that there was only 14% similarity! I haven't a clue how it calculated that!
[15:16:03] <CoolHand> yah I dunno... the alaska airlines one? I'd gotten distracted and forgot I was in that...
[15:16:41] <janrinok> np - I was just pondering how we can be looking at the same thing but the computer can't measure the similarity any more accurately
[15:16:56] * janrinok curses perl
[15:18:54] <CoolHand> don't curse it too heavily.. we don't want the site to come crashing down... :)
[15:19:17] <janrinok> well, if that happens, we can always blame Buzz
[15:35:17] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: cheers for the super cow powers. so what's the next step?
[15:35:49] * TheMightyBuzzard points at janrinok
[15:36:16] <FatPhil> I wanna show off my fit bod in the swimsuit round!
[15:36:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> get with him or CoolHand or cmn32480 and ask them. i try not to learn stuff what's Not My Problem.
[15:37:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> far as i know, reading guidelines and practicing with the editorial interface on dev.
[15:38:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be a mess of stories there that can get cleaned up and pushed out
[15:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> from janrinok earlier: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:39:07] <exec> └─ 13Editing Process - SoylentNews
[15:40:01] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders back off
[15:40:40] <CoolHand> FatPhil: if janrinok doesn't show up to coach you, you can look at cmn's logs from yesterday starting about 14:30 when he coached sea and cockroach.. https://logs.sylnt.us
[15:40:47] <exec> └─ 13#editorial | Logs for 2016-11-14
[15:41:13] <CoolHand> ..and look at this: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[15:41:15] <exec> └─ 13Editing Process - SoylentNews
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[15:48:41] <janrinok> I'm free!
[15:52:41] <FatPhil> reading the wiki now.
[15:52:42] <janrinok> FatPhil, I'm available for the next hour if I can help in any way
[15:53:34] <FatPhil> tempted to say that "Do:" should include "trim, or expand, the quoted material to a sensible length"
[15:53:58] <janrinok> I suppose we could add that
[15:56:25] <SoylentSnow> 'mornin
[15:56:48] <janrinok> ~gday SoylentSnow ( or good afternoon from here in France )
[15:56:49] <SoylentSnow> does anyone know what Back/Hold/Quik does? In the wiki, is says (todo: find this out)
[15:56:50] * exec fanatically a diaper full of flapjacks floccinaucinihilipilificates SoylentSnow
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[15:57:50] <janrinok> Hold transfers the sub to another queue, which you can find if you use the filters near the top of the page. It is useful for saving non-time-sensitive stories for a quieter period.
[15:58:00] <goodie> ~top of morning
[15:59:09] <janrinok> Quik is used very rarely for putting a story out on the front page in very quick fashion. We would use it if a major disaster occurred or something of great significance - military clash between US/Russia in the Med for instance.
[15:59:30] <janrinok> Back, I've never seen used and cannot think of a time when we would.
[15:59:37] <goodie> Quick question for an editor in training: is there a way not to have to manually type HTML when creating a new story? I'm just playing on dev to see how things work
[15:59:39] <SoylentSnow> Ahh, okay, thanks for the info.
[15:59:44] <SoylentSnow> I see the filter section at the top now
[16:00:01] <janrinok> goodie, where are you typing HTML?
[16:00:20] <goodie> In the Intro copy, I wanted to add a quote from an article
[16:00:54] <goodie> I was using the Lufthansa story as an example to try things out
[16:01:26] <janrinok> there is an extension (written by Takyon) which does all of that sort of thing for us, it is used by most of the editors. However, it is useful to do things the long way round for the first few stories.
[16:01:56] <goodie> ok, cool, I read about that ext but did not that covered it too, thanks. I'm ok doing it the hard way for now
[16:02:21] <janrinok> This isn't just a case of being difficult to newbies - SN only accepts a limited set of HTML for security reasons, and it is the best way of learning what is acceptable and what isn't
[16:03:16] <janrinok> I didn't know HTML when I first started, and I found it useful. YMMV
[16:05:03] <SoylentSnow> goodie: You might find it helpful to copy the contents and paste it into Notepad++ If you select Language --> HTML, it colors things all nicely to help you see if tags are not closed properly and stuff like that. Then when you are done, you can just paste it back.
[16:05:29] <goodie> I'm ok with it, I did some web programming in my teens.
[16:05:38] <goodie> Thanks SoylentSnow that was my idea too
[16:06:05] <janrinok> I never did web programming. I was writing real-time software for mil aircraft. Never needed HTML for that!
[16:06:06] <CoolHand> notepad++ ??? who uses windows around here?????? put it in nvim like a real man!! :P
[16:06:06] <Bender> karma - notepad: 1
[16:06:49] <janrinok> I suppose SoylentSnow should have said 'editor of your choice' :)
[16:07:26] * CoolHand watches the editor flamewars erupt in #editorial...
[16:08:15] <janrinok> CH is a very naughty boy
[16:09:06] <SoylentSnow> haha, yes, I'm a windoze luser
[16:11:11] <goodie> real-time software must be sweet but kinda stressful too ;)
[16:12:02] <goodie> notepad++ is the one thing I always have opened I think. plus now it has that feature where unsaved files are still reopened after you close it, kinda useful when you want to go back to a draft you hadn't saved
[16:12:02] <Bender> karma - notepad: 2
[16:12:07] <janrinok> it had its own problems - firing a weapon a few milliseconds too late tends to be a 'MISS'
[16:12:26] <goodie> no kidding...
[16:12:56] <janrinok> but knowing where a fast moving target would be in a few more milliseconds time wasn't always as easy as you might think
[16:13:41] <goodie> interesting problems to solve, sucky context
[16:13:48] <janrinok> By the way - all those editing on dev remember that some of the stories are years old - links might no longer work etc
[16:14:52] <janrinok> well, you can apply the same problem to dropping aid to survivors in the sea, making sure that 2 aircraft can refuel each other when only a few metres apart etc
[16:15:38] <janrinok> if the pilot pushes the stick he wants the ac to respond now, not in a few seconds time
[16:17:27] <janrinok> there are 3 stories near the bottom of the sub list on dev from Arthur - they are from yesterday. One of them has a gotcha - if you find it please don't tell the others what you found but pm me
[16:20:30] <janrinok> SoylentSnow, goodie cockroach ^
[16:30:10] <goodie> k i'll take a look
[16:30:58] <FatPhil> does the submission editor page require javascript?
[16:31:09] <janrinok> yes, unfortunately
[16:31:17] <FatPhil> bletch
[16:31:53] <janrinok> but we have checked many many times that it isn't being naughty
[16:40:05] * FatPhil doesn't know what the frak he's doing, all he knows is that his butt hurts
[16:41:17] <janrinok> it sounds like you are doing it incorrectly. Most editors type with their fingers FP...
[16:41:47] <FatPhil> you don't know where I installed my keyboard!
[16:41:49] <janrinok> I've got to go cook a meal - will you be on here again this evening? I can talk you through it if you wish
[16:42:23] <FatPhil> I'm going to the pube to drink some bares
[16:42:42] <janrinok> don't blame you. Give me a shout when you have an hour free
[16:43:31] <FatPhil> you're a similar time zone to me - how are your mornings? I hate getting up, so laze in bed browsing soylent. May as well be doing something useful in that time tomorrow
[16:44:34] <goodie> FP there are logs on IRC with some basic info (with lots of noise from joking around but quite useful)
[16:44:43] <goodie> https://logs.sylnt.us
[16:44:44] <janrinok> Mornings are usually not good - but I will try to be on tomorrow am and see if we can get together then. I'm a full time carer for my wife, so mornings tend to be dedicated to nursing and physio tasks
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[16:45:15] <goodie> I am still going through them but overall that's a good starting point
[16:46:25] <janrinok> the best way is for a one-on-one pm so that you can copy/pasta everything that is said and refer back to your notes at a later date. Training on this channel gets filled with all sorts of distractions
[16:47:28] <goodie> no joke
[16:47:31] <janrinok> I'm happy to do one-on-one with anybody who wants it - it is the method that I prefer because we can work at a pace that suits the student
[16:50:46] <goodie> too bad you were not on last night ;-). j/k it's all good but I'm glad to know there is personalized help if needed!\
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[18:26:14] <janrinok> SoylentSnow, I received and replied to your pm
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[20:02:59] <charon> The Mighty Buzzard told me this is the place to ask for abuse.
[20:08:18] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[20:08:18] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[20:09:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, CoolHand cmn32480 takyon ping^^
[20:10:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone'll be along shortly i expect, charon
[20:11:00] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders outside for a smoke
[20:14:40] <charon> Thank you
[20:17:25] <janrinok> #charo
[20:17:33] <janrinok> charon, how can I help
[20:17:57] <janrinok> ah, you want to be abused, well you have come to the right place :)
[20:19:06] <janrinok> charon, ping
[20:19:12] <SoylentSnow> @charon Your mother is a hamster and your father reeks of elderberries.
[20:19:26] <charon> how rude
[20:19:44] <charon> I would like to volunteer as an editor, if you'll have me
[20:20:10] <charon> Also, sorry about potential chat delays, I am at work.
[20:20:59] <janrinok> no problem - first of all, see if you already have an account on dev.soylentnews.org - which is the system that we use for training and testing. If you have, great, if not, create one please.
[20:21:39] <janrinok> charon, which TZ are you in?
[20:21:43] <charon> I made one a few minutes ago; need to pick up the confirmation email to activate.
[20:21:51] <charon> EDT
[20:22:10] <janrinok> OK, once you have that I'll get someone to give you the necessary privs on that system
[20:22:45] <janrinok> ~eds charon has volunteered, EDT, currently setting up an account on dev
[20:22:46] <exec> editor ping for janrinok (reason: charon has volunteered, edt, currently setting up an account on dev): janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away
[20:24:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon now has mystical monkey powers on dev
[20:24:08] <janrinok> thanks TMB
[20:25:32] <janrinok> charon, give me a ping when you get back here
[20:26:01] * janrinok or just type my name, my speaker is turned off anyway :)
[20:26:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> if the email doesn't come through in a few minutes let me know and i'll see what i can do about that.
[20:28:47] <charon> janrinok: account set up, awaiting email
[20:29:21] <janrinok> keep checking, Buzz has sent it but you might be using very thing tubes ...
[20:29:28] <janrinok> thin*
[20:29:31] <charon> heh
[20:30:27] <janrinok> thx for volunteering - I was just chatting to another volunteer on a pm. looks like I'm going to be busy training for a next week or so
[20:30:39] <charon> So is there a curriculum to follow or is it more like being thrown into the deep end?
[20:31:23] <janrinok> first of all, once you can log on, I can point you to some wiki info which, in conjunction with the new displays you will see, will begin to explain things.
[20:32:09] <janrinok> You will have loads of questions, just try to go through the wiki bits to get a feel for terminology. We will explain in a more practical way once you have had a look around
[20:32:41] <charon> So is this a different email, or are we talking about the one to give me a password to the dev sever? I have the dev account one already.
[20:33:23] <janrinok> so you are successfully logged on to dev?
[20:33:28] <charon> Yes
[20:34:20] <janrinok> right, off we go then. If you go to the front page, you will see a small toolbar has appeared at the very top, see it?
[20:34:27] <charon> Yep
[20:35:16] <janrinok> assuming you can open multiple tabs in your browser, open Stories in one tab and 47 Submissions in another
[20:35:47] <charon> My head hurts already
[20:36:22] <janrinok> yep, set up the colour scheme to the least painful settings. I'll give you a minute or two to do that
[20:37:14] <janrinok> I recommend that you have a different colour scheme to your usual SN scheme - it is best to be certain which one you are on
[20:37:31] <charon> Good plan.
[20:40:17] <charon> OK, that's marginally better. But I assume the colors have strong contrast for a good reason.
[20:40:37] <janrinok> the reason is that Buzz has a sick sense of humour
[20:40:43] <charon> lol
[20:41:06] <janrinok> I managed to find a dark blue on white which doesn't hurt too much
[20:42:15] <janrinok> https://wiki.soylentnews.org start reading through this while referring to the displays that you have. Take your time - it won't all make sense, even after a dozen readings, but get a feel for the 2 pages that you will be working with.
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[20:42:45] <janrinok> click away - if you break it TMB has to fix it, but we have a quick recover mode because you won't be the first ...
[20:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> we do not. this is our quick recover mode:
[20:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[20:43:20] * exec points at Bytram
[20:43:29] <janrinok> you need js, so if you use NoScript add an exception for dev
[20:44:12] <charon> Horrors: JS?!?!
[20:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you break it we recruit you for the QA team too and let you break more stuff.
[20:44:37] * TheMightyBuzzard hangs head in shame
[20:44:54] <janrinok> If you think that you are stuck, then come back here. I'll be off to my bed soon - it's late evening here, but another ed should be around to answer your questons
[20:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we haven't gotten a proper non-js editorial interface written yet. mostly because we don't really care about the editors.
[20:45:16] <charon> Cool, thank you for getting me started
[20:45:30] <janrinok> np - prolly see you tomorrow
[20:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't tell them though
[20:45:43] <charon> I probably should not admit it, but I sorta like javascript.
[20:45:47] <janrinok> Buzz, be gentle with them, at least for the first day or two
[20:46:20] <charon> I'm not naive enough to trust it though.
[20:46:43] <janrinok> charon has already failed the course by admitting that he likes js - however, I'll start him on his second course effective immediately
[20:46:49] <charon> damnit
[20:49:44] <janrinok> ~eds I have confirmed volunteers from sea cockroach julian fatphil goodie soylentsnow caffeine and charon. Unconfirmed (to me) are mrpg and Gaark. Total 10. Anybody else have anything different?
[20:49:45] <exec> editor ping for janrinok (reason: i have confirmed volunteers from sea cockroach julian fatphil goodie soylentsnow caffeine and charon. unconfirmed (to me) are mrpg and gaark. total 10. anybody else have anything different?): janrinok n1 nick martyb Bytram mrcoolbp cmn32480 coolhand takyon bytram|away
[20:50:48] <janrinok> time for my much-needed beauty sleep.
[20:51:02] <janrinok> ~gnight #editorial
[20:51:04] * exec flatulantly flings a box of pinballs at #editorial
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[21:07:43] <charon> Is dev completely separate from live? More to my point, is there any chance of messing up the live site by playing around on dev?
[21:09:51] <sea> :)
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[21:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> charon, completely separate. break away.
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[22:59:48] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok - that list is more than I have seen. but I have not reviewed comments today
[23:01:39] <cmn32480> charon - welcome and thank you
[23:02:36] <cmn32480> zz_janrinok - your beauty sleep isn't working. maybe if you slept more...
[23:04:41] <charon> cmn32480: thank you for having me. I assume you are an editor too?
[23:05:01] <cmn32480> https://soylentnew.org
[23:05:05] <cmn32480> yes
[23:06:12] <cmn32480> it's a good group here... really decent bunch of people
[23:06:31] <cmn32480> but I sure wish I could spell better
[23:07:01] <cmn32480> I've been editing about 18months
[23:07:10] <charon> heh, spelling is optional for good editors, right?
[23:07:15] <cmn32480> \correct
[23:07:29] <cmn32480> optional for mediocre or bad ones too
[23:07:59] <charon> I've read through the page on the editing process, am I allowed to actually tinker with entries on the submissions and stories pages?
[23:08:19] <cmn32480> on dev?
[23:08:26] <cmn32480> absolutely
[23:08:26] <charon> Yes, on dev
[23:08:35] <cmn32480> we encourage breaking dev.
[23:08:49] <charon> Cool, I don't want to tread on anyone's toes, y'know
[23:08:57] <cmn32480> If you have any questions, I'm here to answer what I can
[23:09:13] <cmn32480> though there is a lot too much backscroll to read what janrinok told you
[23:09:17] <cmn32480> so I'll jsut wing it
[23:09:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> fear not. us devs break it more thoroughly than any ed can pretty regularly.
[23:09:39] <cmn32480> dev is designed for practice
[23:09:57] <cmn32480> the developers use it for practice creating bugs, mostly
[23:10:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> and then Bytram|away comes along and hoses it utterly and completely
[23:10:32] <charon> yeah, i've seen a bunch of entries with unicode entities and HTML just for testing
[23:10:37] <cmn32480> yes
[23:10:56] <cmn32480> choose any of the subs on dev that are from x, exec, arthur, mrplow
[23:11:06] <cmn32480> or that look reasonable
[23:12:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> #fite cmn32480
[23:12:18] <MrPlow> #fite spam going to channel #fite
[23:12:32] <cmn32480> no fair.. I been fighting adn am weak!
[23:12:41] <MrPlow> #fite cmn32480 falls broken at TheMightyBuzzard's feet.
[23:12:54] * TheMightyBuzzard grins evilly
[23:12:58] <cmn32480> meh
[23:13:17] <cmn32480> I was on the road all day whilst you were vidaying or fishing or some such... you won anyway
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[23:50:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Oi, Eds, make sure anyone who sticks around long enough to make it through training gets registered with nickserv here on irc this week so Deucalion can give them staff powahs when they're done.