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[07:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:41] <exec> 08└─I've watched artisanal crystal makers working. There is no comparison between crystal and glass. And, what these people are describing is not "glass". https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] http://www.michaelcfina.com [michaelcfina...
[07:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:42] <exec> 08└─What are you on about, Runaway? Too late at night for you? This is glass, Aluminum Oxide glass. What you are talking about is silicon dioxide glass,only with a significant amount of lead added. Don't see that advertised much lately. But Crystal is still just glass! And this new stuff is glass! Solid...
[07:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:44] <exec> 08└─There is no comparison between crystal and glass.
[07:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:35:45] <exec> 08└─Lead glass is not crystal, by most accounts. The best way to tell whether something is glass or crystal is to smash it with a hammer and study the shards with a magnifying glass. Crystals will break in geometric patterns with visible polygons; some big, some small. Broken glass will have lots of cur...
[07:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fine, but - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:47] <exec> 08└─did it pass the Samsonite Godzilla test?
[07:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 022004 called and want's its glass back - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:49] <exec> 08└─http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2004/aug/11/glass-breakthrough [physicsworld.com] Aug 11, 2004 Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" te...
[07:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Hatsune Miku - 06The Robot Rock Band, Want to Build a Vocalist - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:56] <exec> 08└─Hatsune Miku [wikipedia.org] or one of the other vocaloids maybe?
[07:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's a start - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:04] <exec> 08└─Clearly define the goal and set a realistic deadline. That's already more than the USA has done.
[07:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:That's a start - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:05] <exec> 08└─That is basically what I had to say. The US would have us believe that we have the best of everything in the world, and Capitalism is responsible for us having all the best. But, those fine capitalistic swine send lobbyists to Washington to prevent citizens having broadband that doesn't profit those...
[07:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:That's a start - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:07] <exec> 08└─And with a GCHQ mandate to read all that nice, fast data. Of course, everybody still on Facebook nowadays is an idiot. But fight on, you righteous data-givver-uppers. Fatten Zuck's pockets some more.
[07:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the UK - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:09] <exec> 08└─...to experience how deathly slow Internet access can be. Oh look, my Windows 7 computer is trying to download the 3.5+ GB payload that is the force-fed Windows 10 upgrade. And it's going to take 4 weeks to complete, thanks to the aluminum wires that have yet to be replaced from the World War II er...
[07:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:11] <exec> 08└─half-hearted fibre-to-the-kerb
[07:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:12] <exec> 08└─Since you ask, http://grammarist.com [grammarist.com] Curb vs. kerb In American and Canadian English, the noun meaning the edge of a sidewalk or roadway is spelled curb. In varieties of English from outside North America, the word is spelled kerb. But everyone uses curb for the v...
[07:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:14] <exec> 08└─When WinXP came out, it took me a week to download the XP ISO. Actually, if I recall correctly, it was a week and some hours, via FTP. Today, I'm on a piss-poor DSL connection, and I can download a similarly sized ISO in a couple hours. That's a huge improvement from dialup, but still - other peopl...
[07:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 1390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:18] <exec> 08└─I'm from a python background and the last time I touched Java was in the 90's, but over the years I've tried to pick up java again a few times with building something for Android. Each time the horror that was Eclipse kept me from it. Last month I checked Android Studio for the first time and for st...
[07:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:20] <exec> 08└─I wish Windows phones were popular instead of Android. At least MS has programmers who know a thing or two about programming and backward compatibility and creating an IDE that actually works and code samples that compile and run. Android is a failed system that was promoted by a corporation with an...
[07:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:21] <exec> 08└─Android is a failed system
[07:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:23] <exec> 08└─The XML seems like a lot of overkill until you release that you would have to manually code the layout for well over 40 separate resolutions, while you can make a universal layout XML that covers every single one of those resolutions relatively gracefully, and specific layouts for troublesome aspect...
[07:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02"Hit" you say, huh? - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:29] <exec> 08└─it's powerful enough to rocket its wearer 10,000 feet (3,050 meters) above the ground and can hit speeds of 63 mph (102 km/h)
[07:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Splat - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:31] <exec> 08└─No worse than a kid on a rice-rocket wearing jeans and tennis shoes splitting a lane on a freeway at 80mph.
[07:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:3, Informative) 02wow - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:33] <exec> 08└─The video is pretty damn cool, especially the landing, So gentle, like he was stepping down from milk crate.
[07:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Terminal Velocity - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:34] <exec> 08└─can hit speeds of 63 mph
[07:36:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score:3, Informative) 02Not New - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:36] <exec> 08└─These guys [martinjetpack.com] have been developing the same thing for about the same length of time. Every now and then there's a piece on the news about how they're going to sell them in bulk to the US Navy, or Search and Rescue, or the US Army or something, but they never actually manage to to.
[07:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not New - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:38] <exec> 08└─The Martin jetpack is still primarily using technology from the '70s and still has the capabilities of the military prototypes from that era. This is a very different and much more capable device. Look at the videos and see the difference. Cumbersome hovering over a pad with a device that could easi...
[07:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score:2) 02I'm ready! - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:39] <exec> 08└─I've practiced a lot in Pilotwings (and lost countless games falling in the water aiming for the moving platform)
[07:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Also known as - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:44] <exec> 08└─Turbolifts
[07:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Also known as - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:46] <exec> 08└─Wonkavator: pre-existing implementation.
[07:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also known as - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:47] <exec> 08└─And move it does, in the most remarkable ways, unlike any elevator ever built.
[07:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Also known as - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:49] <exec> 08└─But not sideways and slantways and longways and backways and frontways. It can't even move squareways.
[07:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:51] <exec> 08└─The elevators end up being a real limiting factor on the height of our buildings
[07:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:52] <exec> 08└─Indeed. The current tallest buildings cannot have continuous elevators, you have to change elevator part way. So the limit of the elevator has certainly been reached, but that certainly didn't stop people from building ever more Babelous towers.
[07:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:54] <exec> 08└─I freely admit to being a wimp. I would loathe every second being in a building a quarter as tall.
[07:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:36:56] <exec> 08└─You would think so, but it is legitimately the case that in those tallest buildings, they need two distinct elevator shafts because the weight of the elevator cable becomes excessive.
[07:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Insightful) 02why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:58] <exec> 08└─elevators end up being a real limiting factor on the height of our buildings and the density of our cities
[07:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:00] <exec> 08└─I modded you insightful because my city and neighborhood is under attack from the gentrification menace. The gentrification menace has already won the battle in other cities in my state and other states, and their mandate is to implement the population density of Tokyo and the quality of life of Del...
[07:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:01] <exec> 08└─I heard a local mayor say he was going to develop every undeveloped area in the city, and redevelop every low-tax development.
[07:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:03] <exec> 08└─Because when you build enough arcologies in SimCity 2000 you get to launch off the planet.
[07:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:05] <exec> 08└─seriously, why would you want to increase the density of our cities?
[07:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:07] <exec> 08└─why would you want to increase the density of our cities?
[07:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02ThyssenKrupp seem to have forgotten something - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:08] <exec> 08└─The paternoster. Sure, it's even more weight to carry around than a conventional lift, but it certainly satisfies the multiple-cabs-per-shaft condition that they claim to be inventing, and certainly contradicts their "nothing's changed in 150 years" claim.
[07:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02uhm... - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:10] <exec> 08└─Seems like an amusement park ride ... I am sure someone can modify an amusement park ride to come up with a suitable elevator replacement for tall buildings.
[07:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:12] <exec> 08└─Or is it all just, this could lead to multinational corporations exercising more power over poor little governments that don't know any better, etc.
[07:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:13] <exec> 08└─Numerous specifics have been floating through just this site, in the articles and discussions. I'm sure with a little typing you can find which issues are most contentious. Your tone sounds mocking, are you just small minded or are you having an emotional reaction to people coming together to help e...
[07:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:15] <exec> 08└─When I lived in Washington, DC, there were protest marches every weekend, like clockwork. Very loud and energetic ones by different groups, against all different perpetrators too (foreign governments for example, not just the US). These people are professional protestors. That's what they live to do...
[07:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:17] <exec> 08└─"... could lead to multinational corporations exercising more power ..."
[07:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:19] <exec> 08└─Or is it all just, this could lead to multinational corporations exercising more power over poor little governments that don't know any better, etc.
[07:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:20] <exec> 08└─Multinational corporations have a long and unsavoury history of exercising whatever power they can get, so the "could lead to..." should really be replaced by "would lead to...".
[07:37:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:22] <exec> 08└─https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp [eff.org]
[07:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:24] <exec> 08└─I am against any secret treaty. This is as much about the corporations and governments exercising power over their own citizens than ones of other countries.
[07:37:25] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 642 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:25] <exec> 08└─Since you've apparently been living under an even bigger rock than I often do, you can read about the many specific criticisms here: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Bernie Sanders gave a decent summary that's quoted there: "outsourcing jobs; undercut...
[07:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:27] <exec> 08└─I like how geeks like to talk about how Linux and free software draw developers and users from all over the world, proving it's much better than anything from MS, Oracle, etc. But when it comes to the idea of free trade, people want to build a big virtual wall across the US Pacific Coast, just like...
[07:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:29] <exec> 08└─The TPP has nothing to do with trade; it's a corporate supremacy treaty that implements additional draconian copyright and patent rules that will create more censorship and stifle competition. Economic benefits, even if they exist, are a secondary issue; without freedom, we are nothing. We must reje...
[07:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:30] <exec> 08└─It's hard to have a serious discussion when one side keeps resorting to ad hominem attacks. Trade boosts wealth. This treaty in particular brings us closer to a number of strategically important countries in Southeast Asia, as well as Peru and Chile, who are also in TPP. Who loses? Putin. I'm sure h...
[07:37:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:32] <exec> 08└─It's hard to have a serious discussion when one side keeps resorting to ad hominem attacks.
[07:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1021 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:34] <exec> 08└─I personally don't care all that much about what the EFF is saying because I don't pirate music, movies, books or other IP. I don't consider it "my fundamental right" to download or upload whatever or whoever's digital file I damn please, just as I certainly don't think that malware authors or dist...
[07:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:36] <exec> 08└─I personally don't care all that much about what the EFF is saying because I don't pirate music, movies, books or other IP.
[07:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:37] <exec> 08└─Q. about mods - I thought there was a "Disagree" mod? What makes parent a "Troll"? One way to make sure there's no dissent is to outlaw it. Then you have very pleasant threads where everyone agrees with one another on controversial issues. I don't think that was the original goal for SN though.
[07:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:39] <exec> 08└─The EFF has said that the TPP extends the length of copyrights, so that creative works don't become part of the public domain for a long time. To comment "I personally don't care, because I pirate whatever I want" would be worthy of disagreement. To say instead "I don't care, because I don't pirate"...
[07:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:41] <exec> 08└─Q. about mods - I thought there was a "Disagree" mod? What makes parent a "Troll"?
[07:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:42] <exec> 08└─Trade boosts wealth
[07:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:44] <exec> 08└─Stop calling Australia little, thanks :-) And yes, our government possibly does not know any better. Time for a better system ... one where The People have more input to laws.
[07:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:4, Insightful) 02So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:46] <exec> 08└─The first four replies to this story are all ACs either cynical about protesting in the modern democratic "free" world or cynical about the reasons people may have for opposing TPP. Note to self: it's only the internet and we shouldn't take it too seriously. Life is bad enough without letting it get...
[07:37:46] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03HiThere [866] 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 183 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:47] <exec> 08└─Yes. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from doing something which might stop the TPP. But I'm not very optimistic. I think it's already been bought, paid for, and the bribes spent.
[07:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:49] <exec> 08└─The same goes for TTIP, the European version of TPP. All negotiations are done in secret and both these agreements are going to result in the USA dominating the world economy again.
[07:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:51] <exec> 08└─Maybe the US government and its favorite corporate buddies will dominate the world economy, but none of this will be good for US citizens.
[07:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:53] <exec> 08└─Well it's the same for us Europeans, the general sentiment is that it won't benefit us either.
[07:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:54] <exec> 08└─TTIP is actually just a decoy for an even more secret trade agreement. From what I've gathered, the participants are only allowed to negotiate that agreement with proprietary sign language.
[07:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:56] <exec> 08└─Look at how much we have been able to stop over the last twenty years. Nothing. We have stopped nothing. All we have managed to do with millions of man-hours in protest is slow down the march of the inevitable. My views have completely changed. I don't own a gun, never wanted one, but now I do. It i...
[07:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:58] <exec> 08└─I just love it when things have come to this! Obligatory and annoying XKCD: http://xkcd.com [xkcd.com] My views have completely changed. I don't own a gun, never wanted one, but now I do. It is rather clear
[07:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:37:59] <exec> 08└─Look at how much we have been able to stop over the last twenty years. Nothing. We have stopped nothing.
[07:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we have to keep fighting and keep winning for eternity. All they have to do is win once. Losing with or without a fight is still losing.
[07:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:03] <exec> 08└─Yes, freedom requires external vigilance. That's how reality works. Also, no, they don't just have to win once. Bad laws can be repealed and bad treaties can be gotten rid of. It's difficult, but not impossible. Losing with or without a fight is still losing.
[07:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:05] <exec> 08└─The SJWs are out in force. Business is for the treaty, so "the people" should mobilize against it.
[07:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:06] <exec> 08└─The SJWs hate it for reasons that are often silly. But I hate it too and I'm one of the official Koch Bros stooges according to the SJWs here. I won't be out protesting with the Occupy retards but I will be giving and voting based on opposition to this thing. It is a crap sandwich buried in tons of...
[07:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 021(866)220-0044 - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:08] <exec> 08└─I will be [...] voting based on opposition to this thing ...and, rather than being reactive after the fact, be proactive and let your Congresscritters know how you feel before the vote. Know what gets a politician's attention? A flood of telephone calls to his office. (DO NOT email.) The Capitol swi...
[07:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:10] <exec> 08└─jmorris! Calm down! Right now! Chill pill! Eat it! But I hate it too and I'm one of the official Koch Bros stooges according to the SJWs here.
[07:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:12] <exec> 08└─We've heard stories about three letter agencies and places like the RIAA trying to influence opinion in forums. "Cynical about reasons people have for opposing TPP" sounds like they found their way here. Reminder: Don't feed the trolls.
[07:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:3, Informative) 022cents - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:13] <exec> 08└─I went to: https://secure.canadians.org [canadians.org] to blow off some steam up here in Canada. Gonna let Trudeau know whas what. In the words of his father, "Just watch me!"
[07:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:15] <exec> 08└─I currently live in a place filled with homeless, hippies, and software engineers, and many of them smell quite bad. I don't think soap is to blame.
[07:38:16] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 53 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:17] <exec> 08└─How can the homeless and the hippies stand the smell?
[07:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:19] <exec> 08└─They're nose blind.
[07:38:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:20] <exec> 08└─When I asked them, the guy with the duck on his head, the guy who coughs a lot, the legless guy on the cart, and Jossi/Lady Hermione/Little Sidney/Mr Viddle/Curly/The Judge/Tinker/Burke, they said that eventually you just get used to it.
[07:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:22] <exec> 08└─I'll only buy the spray if the can uses CFC's as a propellant.
[07:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"I'm not a bath man myself, more of a cologne man" - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:24] <exec> 08└─I think I had this guy as a roommate once, although it was a daily dousing of Axe Body Spray rather than "AO+ Mist" ...
[07:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:"I'm not a bath man myself, more of a cologne m - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:25] <exec> 08└─We used to call that "The Irish Shower." I've known a few people like that, but never had the balls to tell them that one can't make a turd smell better by spraying cologne on it.
[07:38:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:"I'm not a bath man myself, more of a cologne m - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:27] <exec> 08└─There's one approach [slate.com] you might not have considered. If nothing else, it's entertaining reading.
[07:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:4, Informative) 02humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:29] <exec> 08└─Well duh. Humans existed just fine for tens of thousands of years before plumbing was invented. Grooming isn't for physical health, its for everyone else's mental health. However do notice that running water was a thing as large societies became a thing. If we would like to continue to be a society,...
[07:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:30] <exec> 08└─The showering, odor issue is mostly due to living/working indoors. That is not natural in the first place. Many other unnatural behaviours are to compensate for that one. Most do not want to give it up.
[07:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, humans don't naturally smell bad, even when not showering or bathing regularly. Most of those really obnoxious odors aren't the result of bad hygiene practices, they're because the balance of bacteria has changed or you're eating things that cause the problem. Either we've killed the wrong bact...
[07:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:34] <exec> 08└─The question is whether you emit less smell, or your nose gets less sensitive to the smell.
[07:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:36] <exec> 08└─The answer may lie in the fact that "pomanders" were commonly worn in the days before washing was commonplace. And that disease was thought to be spread by "miasmas".
[07:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:37] <exec> 08└─There's probably an element of that. However, also keep in mind that the human body is finite. After a few days the entire surface area of your body is going to run out of space to hold more bacteria and for more excretions to stick. No matter how long you go without a bath, you won't wind up with s...
[07:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:39] <exec> 08└─The latter. I've been around people who haven't bathed in weeks - the parent post is true that one loses the rank body odor we're all familiar with, but as the natural bacteria/oil/sweat combination returns to natural equilibrium, people end up instead smelling like animals. Not the familiar BO but...
[07:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:41] <exec> 08└─>Humans existed just fine for tens of thousands of years before plumbing was invented. But rivers and lakes existed for billions of years before humans were invented. :)
[07:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:43] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a true urbanite. It's not so simple to bathe in a river or lake. There's freezing weather, floods, crocodiles, piranhas, moccasins, leeches, mosquitoes, and mud, muck and poop and disease. People mostly stayed out of rivers, a bath wasn't worth the trouble. Ask why humans have gone to gr...
[07:38:44] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03BK [4868] 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 153 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:44] <exec> 08└─Consensus is the life expectancy of humans before showering or at least bathing with soap was somewhere around 35 years. Shower or die early: choose one.
[07:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:46] <exec> 08└─Consensus is the life expectancy of humans before showering or at least bathing with soap was somewhere around 35 years. Shower or die early: choose one.
[07:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 1080 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:48] <exec> 08└─if you are going to cite, try peer reviewed journals. The mortality statistics of the last few centuries make grim reading, until the development of 1) segregated sewage 2) hot water (including clean drinking) 3) anti-biotics. The Romans had almost all of these and used to have bath houses to sweat...
[07:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:50] <exec> 08└─Occult anti-vaccism like yours is on the rise.
[07:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score:2) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:51] <exec> 08└─I'm happy to concede that averaging in the zeros and ones infant mortality does skew the numbers, but the BCE urban societies were almost entirely slave based. Would you care to hazard a guess as to life expectancy of a Greek miner or Roman galley slaves? The ones who lived long were the ones who b...
[07:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:53] <exec> 08└─The average human lifespan before the modern era was 35 years. Just like the average human being has one testicle and one ovary. In times past, infant mortality and death from illness during childhood drove down the average lifespan. A family might have eight kids and only two would make it past 10....
[07:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:55] <exec> 08└─Modern man used to also poo in the streets. Just because we 'did it for a long time and survived as a race' doesn't make it right, or healthy.
[07:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Modern man used to also poo in the streets'' - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:57] <exec> 08└─There was a story in the previous week about a painting that had been owned by George IV. In the process of cleaning it, they discovered that a portion of it had been painted over with foliage. Detail of "A Village Fair with a Church Behind" by Isack van Ostade [orientaldaily.on.cc] ...and, once aga...
[07:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:38:59] <exec> 08└─However do notice that running water was a thing as large societies became a thing. If we would like to continue to be a society, take a bath you filthy bastards.
[07:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:00] <exec> 08└─I shower every day, but stopped wearing deodorant about 10 years ago. One day I just ran out, then never bought more. I noticed zero effect on my life. Same with shaving cream. These products do not seem to serve any purpose.
[07:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:02] <exec> 08└─I notice that once I begin using deodorant, I tend to need it more too. I've lived for years without, without smelling bad. Now I use it again daily and smell bad if I don't. Also, apart from using shampoo to wash my hair, I rarely use soap (except for my hands after toilet etc.). I do shower to rin...
[07:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:04] <exec> 08└─I think I gave up using deoderant, and perfumed soaps, about 20 years ago. I smell lightly of my own male pheremones, a smell which my girlfriend quite likes. She likewise uses nothing perfumed, and smells of her own female pheremones, which I quite like. I'd not ever go as far as this guy though. I...
[07:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:06] <exec> 08└─Good thing you used the word pheromones or the later use of purge would have branded you a crazy hippie! I joke, but some people see any "strange" idea as an alien concept and generally some xenophobia goes along with it.
[07:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:07] <exec> 08└─I hadn't connected my use of "purge" with the wacko undefined concept of "purging toxins" (mostly because the actual toxins are never defined, probably some loonsusing that phrase could be persuaded to include dihydrogen monoxide in the list of toxins). However, currently my sauna thermostat is set...
[07:39:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:09] <exec> 08└─Can you try eating a bulb of garlic, then report back the sauna results? Even submit it as a story. I'm interested in how strong the odor would be.
[07:39:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:11] <exec> 08└─I wonder if P's and GP's diets have changed in the interim. That could make a difference in odor production, if not necessarily in the surface bacterial populations.
[07:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:12] <exec> 08└─I use unscented deodorant, which is very different from not wearing any; the deodorant on its own helps control BO, while any perfume is purely to please people that (unlike me) like scented stuff. My body sweats at the drop of a hat, so if I don't wear the stuff, my armpits start to smell pretty qu...
[07:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:14] <exec> 08└─In western society, BO only became objectionable (among the rich initially, with later trickle-down) about 200 years ago. Before that, BO was considered normal.
[07:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:16] <exec> 08└─I'm the opposite - I started wearing deodorant regularly this summer for the first time in my life. I was just starting to smell and I don't think I did before. I think I'm turning into an old man. Previously a daily shower kept me smelling good unless I went out and did hard labor.
[07:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:19] <exec> 08└─I do the same with the shaving cream. I still have a can though. It is pretty nice when the razor is getting near EOL. It works as a decent lubricant. Though it seems to accelerate the EOLness of the razor. I keep the deodorant though. I buy the type with antiperspirant. Its either that or be sweat...
[07:39:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] 02Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 519 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:22] <exec> 08└─TFA doesn't say whether or not he smells bad. I don't need a million-dollar scientific study, just go up to 10 people on the street, ask them to smell the guy, and if they think he stinks, the whole practical aspect of his idea is out the window. In America, we just can't smell really bad and be tak...
[07:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:26] <exec> 08└─Yeah and I bet if you've been living in your own stink for a while (not even years) you stop being able to smell it so well.
[07:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:29] <exec> 08└─I'm interested in whether or not he does actually smell bad, as his theory may actually be valid. I would guess that there's an interim period where the bacteria are out of balance that he would, but theoretically after that point he'd be okay.
[07:39:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:32] <exec> 08└─He must still be a virgin too.
[07:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:33] <exec> 08└─the real problem with not washing oneself off for a long time isn't the smell but the severe discomfort and even pain from the buildup of salts on one's skin, especially in areas that remain covered almost all the time (feet and groin). once you've sweat enough to start getting salts on your skin, y...
[07:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:35] <exec> 08└─We used to call it swamp ass in the army. All that sweat starts to run down your backside and the salts and everything would almost form a slime. We had no laundry for a while in Iraq and I shit you not my uniform would dry stiff. For a while we had no hot water but I still took showers. Thank god f...
[07:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Dogs too. - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:37] <exec> 08└─People ask us how it is that our dogs have such nice coats, do we wash them a lot? In fact, the reverse is true, we very rarely wash them. They don't smell bad (their breath can be rather bad, but washing them won't affect this).
[07:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Dogs too. - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:38] <exec> 08└─I wish that worked on my mother's dog... Best thing I bought for my mother in years was no-rinse foaming dog shampoo, because even as a puppy she stunk if she wasn't bathed every few days, and Mom could only manage to bathe her every few months. *makes gagging noises*
[07:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Old news - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:40] <exec> 08└─This story is old news [nytimes.com]. However, that article is written by a person who tried it herself. As I recall, she didn't wash her hair, which is a real problem. I would recommend collecting her own urine and using that. It's what the Romans used to wash hair and clothes and it's an effective...
[07:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02So inexperienced, compared to him. - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:42] <exec> 08└─12 years . . . that makes me sound so inexperienced. I had thought that going 45 (02013/02/21 - 02013/04/10 ???) or 80 (02014/12/31 - 02015/03/21 ???) days without bathing or showering (just clean clothes once every 1 - 2 weeks, and maybe brushing my hair occasionally) made me a veteran in the pro-d...
[07:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02It's GNU/Linux, and it's *not* "open source" - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:43] <exec> 08└─That would be a mistake to avoid [google.com].
[07:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Moron - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:45] <exec> 08└─Who is this moron, a cartoon frog? Shower/bath is not perfume.
[07:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02It's HIM - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:47] <exec> 08└─He's the one who always sits next to me on the train, even where there are spare seats on their own, with a table next to a window,
[07:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's HIM - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:49] <exec> 08└─My first thought was this is the guy who always has to hang from the strap on the friggin' subway rather than sit down, isn't he.
[07:39:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:50] <exec> 08└─Duh... Depending on the power grid being up is one thing you DON'T assume in an emergency situation. Fine-grained control of communications is great if you want to silence troublemakers, though.
[07:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:52] <exec> 08└─More and more I see light/electric polls with attached solar panels.
[07:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:54] <exec> 08└─More and more I see light/electric polls with attached solar panels.
[07:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:55] <exec> 08└─but I'm afraid about what the Polish people will say about electrifying one of theirs.
[07:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:57] <exec> 08└─Instead, perhaps we could attach sough LARP Anne L's to our Paul boot.
[07:39:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:39:59] <exec> 08└─More and more I see light/electric polls with attached solar panels.
[07:40:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:01] <exec> 08└─I see a lot of that these days. It seems like basically any signal the city has that isn't mandated is hooked up like that with a battery and solar panel. So, flashing lights for school zones, speed limit information signs and the signs that warn you that a pedestrian is waiting to cross are mostly...
[07:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:02] <exec> 08└─Imagine, in an emergency, they can think of the children/terrorists and track you down to exactly where you are standing to a degree of certainty unparallelled with traditional cell phone tower placement! Even on cloudy days or indoors! Actually, they will be able to do this 24/7 even without grid p...
[07:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 1774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:04] <exec> 08└─Already they just need a list of wifi APs your phone/laptop can see and their signal strengths can make it more accurate. WiFi cells are usually quite small. You don't even have to be connected to any AP. Test it out yourself: https://maps.googleapis.com
[07:40:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:06] <exec> 08└─i tested it myself and i can't believe the great results! right in my browser it printed: { "accuracy" : 49, "location" : { "lat" : 35.0698409, "lng" : -89.88574699999999 }, "status" : "OK" }
[07:40:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:08] <exec> 08└─Yes... turn off your wifi when traveling, unless the cost of privacy is worth the free wifi services. And turn off bluetooth and um. I guess owning an android or microsoft or apple phone is probably just a poor idea if privacy is important. i used to be upset when people forwarded me stuff in email...
[07:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:09] <exec> 08└─Just a note: There is a reason you are told never to touch a downed power line. "Dead" lines often carry voltage. I've had power go out at the plant, and all the lights are out, all the equipment is dead cold. Probe a line with my Fluke, and I find voltage. So - how much power does it take to keep a...
[07:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:11] <exec> 08└─"Dead" lines often carry voltage.
[07:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:self-power - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:13] <exec> 08└─For a high voltage power line even if they cut off the power it may still be holding enough charge to kill. And even if the electric company has cut the power, someone else might be running a generator, screwed up the wiring so it's illegally backfeeding...
[07:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Whose network? - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:15] <exec> 08└─Brought to you by the LAPD. Seems more likely that it’s a route around anti-stingray legislation than emergency phone service.
[07:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02fiber, its good for your diet - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:16] <exec> 08└─Each pole is connected to the network by a fiber link
[07:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:fiber, its good for your diet - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:18] <exec> 08└─um, the fiber is stretchy... but back to the closing point in the summary: seems like a perfect application of solar : PV panel in a relatively open area, raised high, could probably orient it to maximize exposure, maybe even using motion detectors to turn on only when needed, and -most importantly-...
[07:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Each pole is connected ..." - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:20] <exec> 08└─"Each pole is connected to the network by a fiber link". Ya, good luck with that after a significant quake.
[07:40:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03TrumpetPower! [590] 02Simply inexcusable. - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 1173 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:22] <exec> 08└─So, imagine you go to your local you-store-it low-cost storage rental facility and dump a bunch of boxes there that've been taking up room in your closet that you should probably get rid of but can't quite bring yourself to let go of. Maybe you've got a bunch of photo albums of family vacations, lov...
[07:40:23] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:Simply inexcusable. - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:23] <exec> 08└─In the US? It's pretty much a police state now, run by a variety or large multi-national corporations.
[07:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mr Big in the Pants [4956] (Score:2) 02Re:Simply inexcusable. - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:25] <exec> 08└─"Where's the justice, the due process...the rule of law?" Ask Edward Snowden et al. Justice is just a word for a vague artificial concept we invented. Interpretations vary wildly.
[07:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Simply inexcusable. - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:27] <exec> 08└─Couldn't agree more. What these fuckers should at most be debating is whether they have a right to retain a copy of the data.... Thousands upon thousands of law abiding people got separated from their valuable data! Infuckingexcusable.
[07:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Time capsule - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:29] <exec> 08└─Great News! Soon we'll have access to all that, weird, porn from four years ago and all them .rar files for the almost latest warez someone shared or those almost eradicated virus and keyloggers we thought was a thing of the past. It will almost be like opening in a time capsule to 2011.
[07:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:30] <exec> 08└─Perhaps it's the tinfoil in my DNA but I wouldn't ever trust files that had been seized by the government. I certainly wouldn't trust the server hosting them. Is the government going to scrub everything to remove infringing material? If they don't -- and return "stolen" content -- then what preceden...
[07:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:32] <exec> 08└─Kim probably doesn't need lessons in paranoia : )
[07:40:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:34] <exec> 08└─That's one reason why you should keep a list of checksums for all your important files and then keep the list separate from the files. Yes, it's possible to replace files maliciously with some checksums, but if you choose an appropriate one it gets to be rather unlikely for anybody to succeed at tha...
[07:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:35] <exec> 08└─It would set a precedent that we don't value stealing people's real property to protect monopolies over ideas to the point where even non-infringing data is held hostage. Why the fuck would *anyone* care if infringing data is returned?
[07:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:37] <exec> 08└─If some portion of the files are indeed pirated and the government returns them, that would be like the cops returning contraband to someone. It simply makes no sense...
[07:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:I don't think so... - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:39] <exec> 08└─Part of the reason Megaupload got into trouble was deduplication. Megapuload has now way of knowing what copies are infringing. That is why they did not actually delete tyhe content when hit with a DMCA take-down request. For example, the original copyright owner may be using Meagupload to store the...
[07:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:40] <exec> 08└─modern PGP tools are still unusable for the masses.
[07:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:42] <exec> 08└─You know they are barely usable by professionals too
[07:40:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Interesting) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:44] <exec> 08└─Seriously, command line!?!?
[07:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:45] <exec> 08└─The main problem isn't configuration, the main problem is that the person receiving the email has to be able to open it and keep it secure. I'd be encrypting all my mail, but it doesn't really make any sense because nobody I know encrypts their mail and so I'd largely be stuck not sending it to anyb...
[07:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:47] <exec> 08└─The only practical solution I see for encrypted e-mail is to "put it in the cloud." When you send somebody an encrypted mail, it includes a link to a web-hosted decryption tool. This way, everybody can use it. Sure, it flies in the face of what secure is supposed to be, but if you trust https:// to...
[07:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah sure, that way the gov't has only ONE server to raid to get the keys to everyone's email. Do you by change work for a three letter agency?
[07:40:50] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 698 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:51] <exec> 08└─No, that's NOT safe. (Please tell me you were joking!). Even with https your mail sits on servers unencrypted. When I send encrypted mail to joe@merchant.org I HAVE TO KNOW joe's public key. (My mail client will run out to the key-servers and fetch it for me, - seamlessly. Then and only then can the...
[07:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:52] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure GP was talking about uploading the private key. Can't both parties post their public key somewhere and the system is still secure as long as the private keys stay private? If you do the decryption server-side, yes ew.
[07:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:54] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure the GP has no idea about how it works and wasn't even aware there was a private key. Public keys are sent to key-servers, which replicate them around the world. 20 minutes after you publish your public key to one key server all the others have it. You can also attach them to the mes...
[07:40:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:56] <exec> 08└─[QUOTE]I'm not sure GP was talking about uploading the private key.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that would be more like GMail today... no, I mean keeping private keys private, and if someone wants to run the decryption software native on their own machine (in a RAM based "burner VM", if you're into such things),...
[07:40:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:58] <exec> 08└─Bob's public key is sent to Alice. Bob is also prompted to select a passphrase which can be used to secure his private key on the web server so Bob can access his private key securely from multiple devices, you know how Bob loves his phone... Alice now sends Bob the "secure" e-mail, which includes a...
[07:40:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:40:59] <exec> 08└─Then and only then can the message be encrypted using joe's public key, and my private key
[07:41:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:01] <exec> 08└─The main problem isn't configuration, the main problem is that the person receiving the email has to be able to open it and keep it secure. I'd be encrypting all my mail, but it doesn't really make any sense because nobody I know encrypts their mail and so I'd largely be stuck not sending it to anyb...
[07:41:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:03] <exec> 08└─That doesn't sound like a solved problem. I assume I'm missing something here. The only difference I see is that I've spent some time setting something up that nobody I know is using. The main is still unencrypted and still vulnerable to snooping. Whether or not the mail is being stored on my end or...
[07:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:05] <exec> 08└─The instant someone publishes their public key to the key-servers your mail to them would be encrypted. You don't have to think about it. They don't have to think about it. It just happens. Setting it up and turning on opportunistic encryption costs you nothing. For all you know, They are all waitin...
[07:41:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:06] <exec> 08└─You do realize that anyone can upload a key to a key server? This might work if the key was signed by a mutual friend that you really trust. Otherwise, do you have any idea of who holds the private key?
[07:41:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:08] <exec> 08└─Note, you can give them the hint by setting it up to PGP "sign" all your outgoing mail.
[07:41:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:10] <exec> 08└─I *do* PGP sign all my outgoing emails, and have done so for years. It hasn't made a lick of difference
[07:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:12] <exec> 08└─I've set up GPG on my email client and for everyone in my office, but if I didn't set it up, there is no way in hell they would have been able to figure it out. Seriously, introducing the average user to encryption is only slightly easier than introducing it to your cat. But some of that is the faul...
[07:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:13] <exec> 08└─Yes, Enigmail's setup wizard does simplify things. It certainly sounds much easier than the software used in the study. Still many gotchas after that. Would your idiot after setting everything up know not to put sensitive information in the subject line? What about verifying the fingerprint of a key...
[07:41:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:15] <exec> 08└─Would your idiot after setting everything up know not to put sensitive information in the subject line? What about verifying the fingerprint of a key?
[07:41:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:17] <exec> 08└─Here's a major gotcha, and maybe it has changed now as my experience with setting up enigmail is 3-4 years old now, but I recall that after setting it up and building your keys (and also after adding new public or private keys) you have to quit thunderbird and restart. Otherwise it's just failure af...
[07:41:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:19] <exec> 08└─Even PGP 5.5.3 seemed to work well enough for me: http://www.wowarea.com [wowarea.com] What's so difficult about it? Copy unencrypted text to clipboard, select encrypt and sign clipboard, paste, send. See PGP encrypted text, copy text, decrypt, view, validate signature. The...
[07:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:21] <exec> 08└─You need TWO keys to encrypt. Your Private key. Recipient's Public Key. You won't be encrypting anything with a snailmail address. Your cut and paste method isn't going to work either, because nobody will use it. Its not the solution. You're part of the problem.
[07:41:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:22] <exec> 08└─Er… this is perhaps a nitpick, but the recipient's (and your own if you want to be able to read what you wrote later) public key is used in the encryption operation, and your private key is used during the signature operation. I think the car analogy is spot on. Until Johnny understands (really un...
[07:41:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:24] <exec> 08└─You need TWO keys to encrypt.
[07:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wirelessduck [3407] (Score:1) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:26] <exec> 08└─Car analogy: if Johnny can't understand common road signs and stuff like red = stop, green = go, it's no point trying to make software to help Johnny drive safely, either you train Johnny till Johnny gets it and passes a basic competency test or you might as well have software replace Johnny as a dr...
[07:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:28] <exec> 08└─"Trying to operate the GPG command line tool is like trying to summons a minor deity." I once summoned a major deity by accident while trying to use it. We had to call the exorcist and it took three separate visits before we finally got rid of it.
[07:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:1) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:29] <exec> 08└─Trying to operate the GPG command line tool is like trying to summons a minor deity.
[07:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:31] <exec> 08└─The paper suggests an automatic mail to the recipient what he has to do to receive encrypted mail. That's a very bad idea for several reasons: There's no way the system can know what languages the recipient speaks. OK, they could provide code that analyses the email body and guesses the language bas...
[07:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:33] <exec> 08└─Language selection is a part of every operating system and has been since the Pleistocene. Every application can get the current language. What has language got to do with encryption ?
[07:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:34] <exec> 08└─OK, so you say the software should hack into the recipients computer in order to find out the recipient's language settings, in order to find out in what language the recipient will understand the instructions? Not to mention that you cannot tell the recipient's computer from the email address. Mayb...
[07:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:36] <exec> 08└─The sender's computer need know nothing about the recipient computer in order to use encryption. There is no need for instructions, since the email clients figure it out for the user.
[07:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:38] <exec> 08└─The recipient computer needs to have the software installed to be able to decrypt. Did you actually read the article? Or at least the section I refer to?
[07:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:40] <exec> 08└─And if you were able to send to them, the recipientsalready had their key published, which they wouldn't do if they had no software installed to decrypt. Therefore, that is another Non-Problem (You can not send encrypted email to someone who has never set up a private/public key pair. The tools won...
[07:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Bad idea - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:42] <exec> 08└─Most likely the person who is sending the e-mail knows the language spoken by the recipient.
[07:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nofsck Ingcloo [5242] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The need is growing due to paperless billing - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:43] <exec> 08└─As more and more companies are encouraging customers to accept paperless billing, the need for secure email is growing. Without it companies are requiring customers to maintain user ID and password, and log into the company site to pull their bills. If secure email were ubiquitous it would be possib...
[07:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Parties - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's time to start having "Encryption Parties". Gather some friends and interested parties. explain what needs to be done and why. Help create and publish keys for people. Personally (as a user of KMail & ThunderBird, and occasionally Outlook with an Entrust plug-in) it's pretty easy once it's...
[07:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Parties - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:47] <exec> 08└─I try not to assume everyone's incapable of learning. Many people are more adaptable than you think.
[07:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Parties - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:49] <exec> 08└─While I agree with your premise that telling users that computers are hard and they're too stupid to get it is a part of the problem. It's not the only problem. The main problem is that there's just a much larger portion of the population using computers and people are using them for things that wou...
[07:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2, Disagree) 02funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:41:50] <exec> 08└─the really hard jobs is writing the complicated maths software! Seems strange making it usable is such a problem... Under linux I think it is half-usable. Using KDE , you have KGPG and Thunderbird with (Enigmail), I get automatic prompting for encrypted things arriving. Probably a more important edu...
[07:41:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 2341 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:52] <exec> 08└─Treating the problem of usability as trivial, not worthy of attention, has been the bane of free software. Usability has also been mostly ignored by security experts. Lot of them take this attitude that security is all important and therefore only an idiot would sacrifice security for usability, or...
[07:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:54] <exec> 08└─to be honest I don't know how it does it , but it works fine. My setup use my key to store outgoing in sent (so I need to unlock to see my sent). But when I send to someone else, and they reply, I still need to unlock the portion I originally sent. I think the system is smart enough to know: http://...
[07:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:56] <exec> 08└─funny, i used to hand out my email to just a few people. I am sure those few people would use encryption if it was built into their email client. I dont think any of us actually used webmail ourselves, but have set up the servers so suits or something could do it. i was surprised to learn gmail was...
[07:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:58] <exec> 08└─Treating the problem of usability as trivial, not worthy of attention, has been the bane of free software. Oh bullshit. The Gnome team talks all the time about usability and how user-friendly Gnome3 is. This doesn't mean it's actually all that usable, especially since it's so stripped-down that you...
[07:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:41:59] <exec> 08└─Talking and thinking about usability all the time, but not achieving it, is not exactly a ringing endorsement of their commitment. Apple is the usability leader, why can they not simply follow Apple's example? No, they seem determined to reinvent the GUI. As you say, misguided. They need discipline....
[07:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:funny... - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:01] <exec> 08└─By default, the scroll wheel scrolls if the mouse pointer is in a window, shades and unshades if on a title bar, and switches desktops if on the desktop. I prefer that it not change functionality based on the mouse pointer location. Well I prefer that it does. I like being able to scroll background...
[07:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:03] <exec> 08└─I find it weird that you can not sign with expired keys, yet can still change the expiry date on said key. My intuition says it should be the reverse: you should be able to force the client to sign with an expired key, but you should not be able to change the expiry date on the key.
[07:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:04] <exec> 08└─I find it weird that you can not sign with expired keys, yet can still change the expiry date on said key.
[07:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:06] <exec> 08└─You can always change expiry because you have both sides of the key, the public and the private key. No one else can change the expiration date.
[07:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:08] <exec> 08└─But again, you are worrying about stuff that the designers already thought out, and planned for. Updating a key's expiration time The expiration time of a key may be updated with the command expire from the key edit menu. If no key is selected the expiration time of the primary key is updated. Othe...
[07:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:10] <exec> 08└─The part you are missing is that I don't think changing the expiry is necessary if the software will allow you to do operations on expired keys (with dire warnings of course). I am not sure if the designer of PGP had a specific reason for doing it the way he did other than elegant design. Essentiall...
[07:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:11] <exec> 08└─but you should not be able to change the expiry date on the key.
[07:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:13] <exec> 08└─REVOKE
[07:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:Design faults? - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:15] <exec> 08└─Publish a revocation as soon as you become aware the key has been compromised. I typically don't bother with setting an expiry date. I think expiry dates are a bit paranoid albeit it's one of those usability vs. absolute cryptonerd security trade offs.
[07:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score:1) 02This may effect for than kidneys - 06Gut Microbiota Changes in Diabetic Kidney Disease Contribute to Chronic Inflammation - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:16] <exec> 08└─This may effect even more than they think. I suffer from fibromyalgia and my specialist is investigating the effects of gut fauna on the disease. So far, his research has shown that changes in certain gut fauna have significant effects on the symptoms of his fibro patients. Right now he's having me...
[07:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Worse and Worse - 06Gut Microbiota Changes in Diabetic Kidney Disease Contribute to Chronic Inflammation - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:18] <exec> 08└─Now they dont even wait for a paper to be written to tell you about the new advancements. I guess that makes it too easy to debunk. Best to only commit yourself to 200 words or less.
[07:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:Cloud, cloud, cloud! - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:20] <exec> 08└─i recall reading that the CIA basically had Amazon build a miniature AWS in a their own datacenter. so sure, you can... as long as you own the entire cloud and only you can connect to it. :)
[07:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Cloud, cloud, cloud! - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:21] <exec> 08└─As it was wisely put, there is no such thing as the cloud, only somebody else's computer.
[07:42:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:Cloud, cloud, cloud! - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:23] <exec> 08└─there is no such thing as the cloud, only somebody else's computer.
[07:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:25] <exec> 08└─Did you?
[07:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:27] <exec> 08└─It's pretty hard to avoid the Googs since they own YouTube. Other video hosting sites just don't have the established userbase.
[07:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:28] <exec> 08└─I paid Amazon a fair bit by buying some stuff through them. I paid Google a smaller amount by buying a handful of paid apps through Google Play and perhaps indirectly from buying Android hardware like my Nexus devices. I don't have anything by Apple, I never visit Facebook, and the last computer I b...
[07:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:30] <exec> 08└─What search engine do you use?
[07:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:32] <exec> 08└─Currently DuckDuckGo. Use basically anything but google.
[07:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:I didn't give them a dime - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:33] <exec> 08└─Google is nearly impossible to avoid because, as said above, of YouTube. Want to watch a video? Odds are great that it's on YouTube. Other than YouTube though, I manage to avoid Google. Amazon I give money to for digital comic books and graphic novels (Comixology), eBooks, and Kindles mostly. It has...
[07:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Read fewer magazines are more DNS dumps - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:35] <exec> 08└─5 companies that "rule" the internet? Ha what a joke. If anyone owns the internet, it is 1 company: Akamai [wikipedia.org] Akamai's content delivery network is one of the world's largest distributed computing platforms, responsible for serving between 15 and 30 percent of all web traffic.
[07:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Read fewer magazines are more DNS dumps - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:37] <exec> 08└─Akamai might be the equivalent of the printing press, but then the 5 companies listed are the editors. The ones who directly control and steer not only policy, but access to the information that Akamai serves.
[07:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Missing link - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:39] <exec> 08└─Oops, forgot the link to the WSJ piece. I meant to put this at the start of the second paragraph: http://www.wsj.com [wsj.com] BTW, this is one of the frustrations of submitting something. Quite often you find a glaring error, but there's n...
[07:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02alternatives? - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:41] <exec> 08└─Google: DuckDuckGo. Also, Clean Links add-on. Youtube: Umm... porn sites? Apple: Pirate Bay. And (gasp) your local public library. For mobile, I would say Android, but that's Google again. Facebook: Who really needs them? And, maybe Linked In? Amazon: NewEgg for consumer goods. For the cloud service...
[07:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score:1) 02Re:alternatives? - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:42] <exec> 08└─Personally I do without four of the big five listed. Google, however, is insidious. Much harder to avoid than any of the others, at least for me because of who my associates are. While it's easy enough to make use of other search engines, it's their other services that I get roped into. gmail addres...
[07:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Meh, - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:44] <exec> 08└─Quarter. That's it. A nice *QUARTER*. They're on top now. TFA's claim that they can't be knocked off that perch is a bit dicier. Social media and consumer products (Apple) are fickle. Just look at Digg or Sony for examples. Tech dominance? Look at the descent of Cisco and Oracle. Microsoft's had a p...
[07:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meh, - 06The Five Companies that Rule the Internet had Another Great Quarter - 2497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:46] <exec> 08└─Dude. It's always been about the quarter. Chiming in with the fact that it isn't the quarter that matters is like saying it's not that the candy tastes good, but what its made out of. No one cares. There are charts and diagrams and statements about "past performance doesn't mean future profits" and...
[07:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Mmmm... - 06Europe Sets Out Three Month Timetable to Seal New Data-Transfer Deal With U.S. - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:48] <exec> 08└─So businesses [subordinate] is not going to cut it.
[07:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Mmmm... - 06Europe Sets Out Three Month Timetable to Seal New Data-Transfer Deal With U.S. - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:50] <exec> 08└─I read it quite differently to you, rather as 2 separate elements that should perhaps have been joined with a 'should be aware that': So businesses seeking to sidestep data protection requirements
[07:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Mmmm... - 06Europe Sets Out Three Month Timetable to Seal New Data-Transfer Deal With U.S. - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:51] <exec> 08└─I'll let Weird Al know about your penance ;)
[07:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Huh? Seems like nonsense - where's the money flow? - 06Europe Sets Out Three Month Timetable to Seal New Data-Transfer Deal With U.S. - 1223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:53] <exec> 08└─The US government simply cannot be trusted not to spy. It seems that the only possible way to guarantee data security in the US would be to require strong encryption to which the company does not hold the key. This would allow data storage, but no meaningful processing. Hence, this communication see...
[07:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:As long as they don't bundle a priv escalation - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:55] <exec> 08└─Either: 1. This is BS. It's not a real threat, it's something where the threat is vastly inflated by a "security" company with something to sell you. 2. The intent is to attack via ssh, hoping to find boxes with weak root passwords and no defence against ssh brute-force attacks.
[07:42:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 348 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:57] <exec> 08└─Seems like half the story... How did it get there? Did they obtain root on the box first? How did they induce root to launch it? If some human didn't launch it, no one would see the ransom message. Did they link it to something root is going to run? Even reading all the linked pages, and the pages l...
[07:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:58] <exec> 08└─Also found a Hungarian forum here [hup.hu]. Anybody speak Hungarian in the house? I ran some of the comments through Google Translate, which proves hilariously inadequate. As as I could tell, most of the discussion is about backup strategies and insecure PHP setups that give world write permission (...
[07:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:00] <exec> 08└─>>> for example, if "Bloody Steve" is using root-enabled ssh, he deserves it. >>> "I understand, that it's an electric car, but what is propelling it?" User "trey" says, apparently FreeBSD is also affected. All other commenters are mostly discussing how this malware might infect your system and how...
[07:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:02] <exec> 08└─Considering how often we see servers that haven't been patched in ages I really wouldn't be surprised if they are using the Ghost vulnerability [us-cert.gov] to gain control of the systems. This is why I've said for years it really doesn't matter if you are running Linux, OSX, or Windows, as its alw...
[07:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:03] <exec> 08└─This is why I've said for years it really doesn't matter if you are running Linux, OSX, or Windows, as its always the same weaknesses that gets a computer compromised.
[07:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:05] <exec> 08└─And if you run FreeDOS without network support I'm sure you will be completely immune to everything, your point? If you want to have your "computer" be nothing more than a blinking cursor like its 1979 Disco Dan that is your choice, most of us don't want our computer evolution to end when Ronnie Ray...
[07:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:07] <exec> 08└─People said the EXACT SAME THING about Linux. Then Linux got popular and then got pwned HARD. I'll agree that BSD is better than Linux and I wish Shuttleworth had sunk his money into BSD and not Linux, but the moment it is profitable to pwn BSD you will see BSD malware. If that ever happens though,...
[07:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:09] <exec> 08└─People said the EXACT SAME THING about Linux. Then Linux got popular and then got pwned HARD.
[07:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:The bold bit - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:11] <exec> 08└─And yet plenty of people still believe Linux is so much harder to pwn than Windows. See: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Linux and Windows are just as easy to pwn by outsiders. The only real difference between Linux and Windows in terms of secur...
[07:43:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:root? - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 66 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:12] <exec> 08└─"You have to run that with sudo if it doesn't work" -Ubuntu forums
[07:43:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Geotti [1146] 02Re:Bitcoin reputation - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 21 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:14] <exec> 08└─Obviously, 50 cent...
[07:43:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dunbal [3515] 02Re:Bitcoin reputation - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 16 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:16] <exec> 08└─They're all bad.
[07:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Bitcoin reputation - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:17] <exec> 08└─Coinye [wikipedia.org]?
[07:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux support! - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:19] <exec> 08└─Well, sure it supports Linux. You just have to follow the standard build instructions: Download the tarball, unpack, run ./configure, make, sudo make install.
[07:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux support! - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:21] <exec> 08└─There's a modern moronity out there along the lines of: wget -O - http://dumbidea.com [dumbidea.com] | sudo sh I mean what could possibly go wrong? For bonus points make sure to use http instead of https. Also make sure to pack the .sh full of bashisms, after all every civilized individua...
[07:43:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Geotti [1146] 02Re:Soon to be obsoleted by systemd-encoder - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 98 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:23] <exec> 08└─Finally, a new revenue stream for distros: pay us 1btc and we'll send you an image without systemd
[07:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DNied [3409] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Versioned Backups - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:25] <exec> 08└─Moral of the story: If grandma is root, you'd better get an account on a different machine.
[07:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Versioned Backups - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:26] <exec> 08└─Deduplicating backup tools like attic might even detect something is wrong when a snapshot swells abruptly.
[07:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:A Decryption System, Woo-Hoo! - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:28] <exec> 08└─Which just means, you should keep making backups of all data for basically forever (or until you no longer need that data). Which certainly is a good advice.
[07:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score:1, Troll) 02Dear thugs - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:30] <exec> 08└─Eat shit. I use FreeBSD. And if you did get me I would just restore from backups and look into taking out a contract on your sorry asses. And I'm not stupid. I don't run trojans as root.
[07:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Dear thugs - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:32] <exec> 08└─The point about backups is valid. Using BSD, however, won't protect you from something running as root. I can't think of much that would outside of runing a Write Once Read Many memory System. Worms, however, aren't common. The only thing I can think of that uses them are multi-session CDs.
[07:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03present_arms [4392] (Score:2) 02Just be a user - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:33] <exec> 08└─and don't be a plank :) if it's not in the repo, don't install it, ahh life is simple :d
[07:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03cpghost [4591] (Score:1) 02Is that ransomware GPLed? - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:35] <exec> 08└─Anyone with the source code of this little bastard? Some repo hosting it? :) (Not that it isn't trivially easy to write a little shell script to do the job letting the heavy encryption lifting to binaries like openssl for example).
[07:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02wow I see this so often - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:37] <exec> 08└─Every few weeks, there's another Linux scare story like this. Exceptionally vague on details, truly alarming in the headline. We hear screaming: LINUX! IS! INSECURE! But when we look, the details are nowhere to be found. The articles are long on scary outcomes, but short on how these phantom problem...
[07:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wow I see this so often - 06Linux Ransomware is Now Attacking Webmasters - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:39] <exec> 08└─Welcome to "security researchers" in general, this isn't restricted to Linux, they're vague on details regardless of the platform.
[07:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03CirclesInSand [2899] (Score:2) 02Re:not really walking - 06Vampire Bat Robot Uses its Wings for Walking - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:40] <exec> 08└─Not to mention, that couldn't even be considered hobbling. The shock proof wing design was something though, although I doubt it was as shock proof as they pretended.
[07:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:not really walking - 06Vampire Bat Robot Uses its Wings for Walking - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:42] <exec> 08└─Nor does it resemble how a real vampire bat moves: Walking: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Running: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Story is lame. I hope it has no legs ;).
[07:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Bye! - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:44] <exec> 08└─Tourism is limitless.
[07:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Bye! - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:45] <exec> 08└─Probably because the Minister of Hydrocarbons is now a very wealthy man.
[07:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Hey! - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:47] <exec> 08└─Sold. Everyone has 30 days to vacate the premises.
[07:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Hey! - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:49] <exec> 08└─Of course, we'll still be reaping the benefits.
[07:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:New oil, new targets. - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:51] <exec> 08└─"They're the black people who triggered our whole Amuricn civil war thing... GET 'EM!"
[07:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New oil, new targets. - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:52] <exec> 08└─black lives don't matter.
[07:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:New oil, new targets. - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:54] <exec> 08└─... unless they are white and covered in oil.
[07:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:New oil, new targets. - 06Oil Confirmed Under Africa's Oldest Wildlife Park Virunga: DRC Govt - 2057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:56] <exec> 08└─What? They already are there. Boko Haram. Or just say Ebola is there, so everyone out so the place can be sterilized with a new techinique that coincidentally happens to involve drilling oil. There is already a bunch of oil problems in Africa. This is just more of that same problem. The solution alw...
[07:43:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 101 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:58] <exec> 08└─I have always thought that people who need religion to be altruistic are not truly altruistic people.
[07:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:59] <exec> 08└─Matches my observations too. In fact I find that there's a direct correlation between religious fervor and being an asshole. Since correlation is not causation, it's unclear to me whether religion attracts assholes or religion turns you into an asshole.
[07:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:01] <exec> 08└─It might also be that assholes are less likely to lose a religion they got as child.
[07:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DNied [3409] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─I have always thought that people who need religion to be altruistic are not truly altruistic people.
[07:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:04] <exec> 08└─you can think of religion as a 'human rootkit'. once its installed (and installed early enough) the bad guys can insert any kind of message they want and the subject has no choice but to accept the programming. or, maybe a better analogy is a bootloader. religion is a bootloader with the fuse blown;...
[07:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:06] <exec> 08└─Do you realize, though, that every guy who refused religious teachings as he grew up, probably including you, is invalidating your pretty metaphor?
[07:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Do we really need religion? - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:08] <exec> 08└─Worse, there's a figurative get-out-of-jail free card in the form of either atonement (confess sins and be forgiven for minor ones), or "God will be the judge" when you reach the afterlife... i.e. after the world you lived in is no longer able to punish you for transgressions.
[07:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:The issue isn't belief in God... - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:10] <exec> 08└─All hail her hinederness SunButt! Party cannons to maximum! Love and tolerate all the non-believers!
[07:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The issue isn't belief in God... - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:11] <exec> 08└─Indeed, the death of thousands as a result of the next tsunami is solely on his hands!
[07:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Point completely missed... - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:13] <exec> 08└─...traveling on an orthogonal course and in a different universe. Or maybe you didn't make yourself clear.
[07:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:15] <exec> 08└─I hold many beliefs that a grand majority of society does not share
[07:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 1195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:17] <exec> 08└─Well, you're just silly. I don't think possessing child pornography should be illegal, and think that that whether rape occurred should be determined on a case-by-case basis in a courtroom rather than relying on inflexible age of consent laws. I think absolutely all drugs should be legalized. I beli...
[07:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:19] <exec> 08└─hold any beliefs that are unacceptable in modern society
[07:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:20] <exec> 08└─Unacceptable in modern society, not disagreed with by the grand majority of society.
[07:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:22] <exec> 08└─It's just pure coincidence that they both align with religious morals and the de-facto morals of the society
[07:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:24] <exec> 08└─Oh, look! MikeeUSA finally got a username! How cute!
[07:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:25] <exec> 08└─Sarcasm aside, morals aren't intrinsic. They're imposed on you by your society and culture
[07:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:27] <exec> 08└─As individuals we can reject the morals of society and culture. We call those people eccentric, anti-social, or criminal,
[07:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:29] <exec> 08└─And that's not a form of imposition? If a child deviates from societal norms, does it not get disciplined? If a person breaks the law, do they not get fined or jailed?
[07:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:31] <exec> 08└─There are some kids you can discipline all you want and you won't get an iota of change out of them. Likewise for prison. Not all people can be "rehabilitated".
[07:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:32] <exec> 08└─Yes, and you came up with your morals all on your own. It's just pure coincidence that they both align with religious morals and the de-facto morals of the society you live in!
[07:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:34] <exec> 08└─I see no evidence for non-subjective morals. Everything points to morality being subjective and based on people's subjective values. Do you vehemently disagree with murder? So do most people, but that doesn't mean that isn't a subjective feeling in the end. Morality being subjective doesn't mean you...
[07:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Francis [5544] (Score:1) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:36] <exec> 08└─People object to murder mainly because of the way it's defined. Very, very few people think that it's never OK to kill somebody on purpose. Where people differ is under what circumstances it's permissible or whether there should be any rules at all. For example, the Israeli government has no problem...
[07:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need religion - 06Religion Doesn't Make Kids More Generous or Altruistic, Study Finds - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:38] <exec> 08└─People object to murder mainly because of the way it's defined.
[07:44:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bill Evans [1094] 02Re:Actually, it's not dead - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 72 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:40] <exec> 08└─Keystone XL will just get refiled after US elects a Republican president
[07:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:''then the Democrats fix the country'' - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:41] <exec> 08└─You need to switch off Lamestream Media. It's filling your head with propaganda.
[07:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The veracity of ''news'' sources - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:43] <exec> 08└─A bigger problem than how traditional corporate media outlets distort stories beyond recognition (to please corporate advertisers and/or the regime) is which stories they purposely omit from their coverage. If you go to those sources of "journalism", you are guaranteed not only to get purposeful lie...
[07:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually, it's not dead - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:45] <exec> 08└─You have a limited perspective. Both parties have consistently been acting to destroy the country for their own advantage. Just in slightly different ways. I think people in general derive more benefits out of the way the Democrats destroy the country, but it's a close call.
[07:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bziman [3577] (Score:2) 02Re:Actually, it's not dead - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:46] <exec> 08└─Keystone XL will just get refiled after US elects a Republican president
[07:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Still going to be produced - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:48] <exec> 08└─If The US doesn't want the oil and keeps blocking pipelines into the country, fine. You don't get our oil then.
[07:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03middlemen [504] (Score:2) 02Re:All That Unused Pipe - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:50] <exec> 08└─You can rebuild the Internet as a series of tubes.
[07:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:All That Unused Pipe - 06With Keystone XL Dead, What's Next for Tar Sands, Landowners, and All That Unused Pipe? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:51] <exec> 08└─Or to California so they can steal water from the great lakes.
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[08:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:41] <exec> 08└─Californians are wimps. Even the night sky scares them. The San Diego Union-Tribune said police were inundated with calls "reporting everything from a flare to a comet to a nuclear bomb".
[08:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:2004 called and want's its glass back - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:35:55] <exec> 08└─Scotty says "You're welcome" from the future.
[08:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 021986 called... - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:35:56] <exec> 08└─... beam me up Scotty [youtube.com]
[08:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Scotty holds the patent rights. - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:57] <exec> 08└─We have had this here on Earth for a quite a while now thanks to Scotty giving us the plans. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[08:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02bird - 06The Robot Rock Band, Want to Build a Vocalist - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:36:07] <exec> 08└─Play Freebot!
[08:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's a start - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:18] <exec> 08└─Of course, anybody on Facebook is an idiot.
[08:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:22] <exec> 08└─Love these little bouts of pedantry. Didn't we have Tires and Tyres the other day?
[08:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:24] <exec> 08└─But we're free. That totally makes up for it.
[08:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:26] <exec> 08└─Sarcasm, I hope. In America today, we are free to bend over for TSA agents to insert whatever instrument they desire to insert. Or, some cop doing a stop and frisk shakedown.
[08:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02David Cameron? - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:36:28] <exec> 08└─The same guy who demands mandatory web filters and heads a government trying to introduce warrantless snooping and secret courts? Welcome to the Stasinet!
[08:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:David Cameron? - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:30] <exec> 08└─Yup, without good coverage people can escape surveillance, next up free mobile phones from birth. The freedom you demanded is now mandatory.
[08:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:39] <exec> 08└─It's not impressive, it's sad. The fact that a change in DPI could screw up a GUI is a failure that should have never happened in the first place. Anything based on exact pixels is bad design. We should have always been using percentages and the entire GUI should scale instead of stretch.
[08:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:41] <exec> 08└─Yes. The UI is equally poor across a wide variety of resolutions. Kudos to Android for solving this problem.
[08:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 1446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:36:43] <exec> 08└─Why do you expect your IDE to automatically manage all your dependencies for you? Eclipse isn't specifically geared to Android programming so you'll need to manually download everything you need and tell Eclipse where to look. You have to do that for every IDE for every language. Or you can download...
[08:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Vaporware - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:19] <exec> 08└─Read the article, the thing doesn't exist except for a tiny prototype. There's no safety controls or emergency breaks, they haven't figured out how to keep one car from running into another, it'll be insanely expensive, there's only room for a couple people at a time (so if you're in a group of lets...
[08:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Space elevator! - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:20] <exec> 08└─Since the biggest problem with a space elevator is the cable, this should be perfect for a space elevator! ;-)
[08:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:37:55] <exec> 08└─the 'USA' is not going to dominate or win anything. certain very very rich people who are american citizens will benefit. but I won't benefit and neither will anyone I personally know; and I would guess even their friends won't be in the connected-few that will win. the one-percenters are the winner...
[08:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:38:20] <exec> 08└─What duck?
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[09:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:35:44] <exec> 08└─What are the police going to do about a light in the sky?
[09:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:35:45] <exec> 08└─Find a way to grandstand? Use it as an opportunity to distract everyone from all the police misconduct.
[09:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:35:47] <exec> 08└─Shoot at it. Same as usual whenever they are faced with any situation not involving a donut and coffee.
[09:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MAD? - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:49] <exec> 08└─they probably lit one up just to make sure the things still work
[09:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02yip - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:50] <exec> 08└─My wife shouted at me to come look at her phone. Her friend photographed a launch and sent her copies, calling it a "UFO". I told her it was probably a military rocket launch out to sea; I've seen them before in S. Calif. and recognized the pattern. She asked if it would be in the news, and I said m...
[09:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yip - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:35:52] <exec> 08└─I saw it. While it was strange I thought it was maybe a comet or a satellite falling from space. Guess I was wrong.
[09:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 1270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:36:03] <exec> 08└─hmmm... Hold up a glass to the light. If the glass acts as a prism and you see a rainbow you are holding crystal. If not, it is just plain glass. Except when the glass is cut in such a way as to act like a prism When struck, crystal produces a musical...
[09:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Five years - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:09] <exec> 08└─From the article: "We will establish a way to mass-produce the new material shortly," Atsunobu Masuno, an assistant professor at the University of Tokyo, told The Asahi Shimbun. "We are looking to commercialize the technique within five years."
[09:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:36:33] <exec> 08└─I no longer have to deal with the curb / kerb dilemma, since my 3-year old coined the phrase "road crust". Downside: Now I can't look at a road without getting hungry for pies.
[09:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:36:49] <exec> 08└─When a programmer declares a project "failed", then it has failed. It does not matter that a marketer for Android calls it the greatest system ever. Android isn't a flawed system, it is a flaw. Imagine this: If Android did not have the backing of the Google empire, would it still succeed and make a...
[09:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:38:52] <exec> 08└─Part of the downside to being 2400 years old is that you mostly likely live to see, and/or smell, some things you rather wished you had not. I was in Europe during that period when bathing fell out of fashion, and let me tell you, there were no jets or high-speed trains back then, nosiree! Oxcart!...
[09:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:2) 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:14] <exec> 08└─I shit you not my uniform would dry stiff
[09:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dogs too. - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:39:17] <exec> 08└─Best thing I bought for my mother in years was no-rinse foaming dog shampoo, because even as a puppy she stunk if she wasn't bathed every few days,
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[10:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:39] <exec> 08└─"how to contact him to announce that he has won the Prize." Well, I figure the guy is probably reasonably literate. Figure the odds of an illiterate person creating bitcoin. Consider the fact that his name has been published his announcement. "the additional prize money may not mean much to him." Ag...
[10:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why not more directly? - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:40] <exec> 08└─"Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj," concludes Chowdhry. "Mr Nakamoto and I will settle later."
[10:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03cosurgi [272] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not more directly? - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:35:42] <exec> 08└─Just send money to the address of the genesis block. He surely owns it.
[10:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Letting Russia and China know - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:57] <exec> 08└─Just letting Russia and China know who the boss is, without provoking them openly by firing near them.
[10:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:36:41] <exec> 08└─Hah - A few years back, the wife and I had to go somewhere. I can't remember where, but we let the eldest son drive. Mother sat up front, I rode in back. I wasn't really paying attention to their conversation, my mind was wandering. One snippet caught my attention though: "Keep it between the mustar...
[10:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02not a library issue - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:37:02] <exec> 08└─this isn't a problem with loading native libraries, this is a problem with java. the solution is to not use java. the android NDK is free, you know.
[10:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Nice but - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:37:18] <exec> 08└─wake me up when there is such a thing as jet-powered rocket pants. BTW, the video in TFA describes this as "the world's only jetpack". Quite apart from the US military's various jetpack projects mentioned in this thread (didn't they use one in of the Bond films?) the same damned article then goes on...
[10:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:40:31] <exec> 08└─If the Cloud Can't decrypt your mail, there is no reason to have the cloud.
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[11:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:2) 02I'm Curious... - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:35:57] <exec> 08└─I was driving in NW Montana a few years ago and saw a fireball in the sky with a huge trail of smoke appear to rise through the atmosphere and into space. Looked very much like footage of a rocket launch. Took a few minutes to climb out. It appearred to be *very* far away, possibly hundreds (thousan...
[11:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02great! - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:16] <exec> 08└─More technologic opportunities for architects to come up with daring and original designs. JK, we all know they'll come up with more "go home, building, you're drunk" stuff. Have fun, engineers.
[11:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02I applied as a background vocalist for a group - 06The Robot Rock Band, Want to Build a Vocalist - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:26] <exec> 08└─I showed them my 2hz-200khz vocal range, low THD and noise. The group's producer told me, "that's all fine, bot, but we like background vocalists with big titties". Nothing to do here.
[11:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02BT? - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:50] <exec> 08└─I work for private schools. You wouldn't believe the budgets some of them have. The current one tried to buy a leased line from BT because our ADSL/VDSL connection got us 10Mbps max in real life. After two years they cancelled the leased line because it still wasn't installed. We went with Virgin an...
[11:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:02] <exec> 08└─When a programmer declares a project "failed", then it has failed.
[11:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:38] <exec> 08└─And some people talk as if we can start building a space elevator Real Soon. We can't even make nonstop elevators that are 1km and somehow we would be able to do 36000km?
[11:37:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 57 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:37:44] <exec> 08└─why would you want to increase the density of our cities?
[11:39:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 1080 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:39:04] <exec> 08└─if you are going to cite, try peer reviewed journals. The mortality statistics of the last few centuries make grim reading, until the development of 1) segregated sewage 2) hot water (including clean drinking) 3) anti-biotics. The Romans had almost all of these and used to have bath houses to sweat...
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[11:40:39] <exec> 08└─I'm skeptical whether the passphrase would be secure, though. Wouldn't it just be stored on the server?
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[12:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lemming [1053] (Score:2) 02Re:Why not more directly? - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:35:49] <exec> 08└─If there's a reliable communcation channel to Nakamoto, then couldn't Nakamoto communicate his own bitcoin address for sending the prize money to? No need to go through Chowdhry's.
[12:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02why? - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:06] <exec> 08└─On Saturday Nov 7th, my wife calls me frantically screaming to run outside and look in the sky. She thought she saw a meteor or something blowing up in the atmosphere over San Diego.
[12:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:37:48] <exec> 08└─Space elevators were never visioned as being pulled by cables. A space elevator needs a cable, but the cable doesn't move. In fact the cable is so heavy that it will be held up by its own weight, by putting the center of balance in geosynchronous orbit. The cable will serve the same function as the...
[12:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:Vaporware - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:37:58] <exec> 08└─There's no safety controls or emergency breaks [brakes?]
[12:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02"More bars" - 06LA'S New Streetlamps Will Keep Cell Service Running After an Earthquake - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:10] <exec> 08└─This phrase brought to you by Marketing. Marketing - rephrasing concepts we already understood because we can!
[12:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Simply inexcusable. - 06U.S. Judge Explores Return of Megaupload Data - 812 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:40:23] <exec> 08└─The police in London did an operation exactly as you describe on safety deposit boxes - http://www.standard.co.uk [standard.co.uk] The justice due process and rule of law is buried in various legislation which mean...
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[13:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:46] <exec> 08└─Using a pedometer to measure the number of steps one takes in a day has been linked to lower fatigue in persons with rheumatoid arthritis
[13:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:35:47] <exec> 08└─Looks like someone didn't bother to read the linked study.
[13:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:10] <exec> 08└─Why do you think donuts have holes in?
[13:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Much ado about nothing - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:17] <exec> 08└─Having grown up in Cali and seen many launches from Vandenburg and Point Mugu (disclaimer: daddy was a metallurgist at Aerojet) you'd think a routine launch would be "oh, cool!" and not "zomg, alien space zombie comet!" The .mil could do a better job of public notification, though. Hell, we notify t...
[13:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02explained soon afterwards - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:19] <exec> 08└─I read that as these motherfuckers weren't sure if they could pull this off. Or perhaps it's a false flag entirely. In any case, the operators should be arrested for terrorism.
[13:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:30] <exec> 08└─Using a meaningless marketing phrase like "crystal" in a chemistry story couldn't possibly be chaotic, could it? The best analogy I can come up with is "billet" exists in the minds of marketers and consumers, usually they're talking about stuff machined out of a single piece of bar stock but occasio...
[13:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Glass, or crystal? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:32] <exec> 08└─There is no comparison between crystal and glass.
[13:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:I applied as a background vocalist for a group - 06The Robot Rock Band, Want to Build a Vocalist - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:36:50] <exec> 08└─Water balloons and a blond wig. Problem solved.
[13:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score:1) 02Good luck with that. - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:15] <exec> 08└─5-10Mbps. What a joke. I wonder at what point will I be able to sue BT because I can't sell my house because I cannot get fiber? They can't even get the fiber lines they have installed to work. My parents have FTTC and should get 70mbs. Its more like 20. After harassing the local broadband rollout g...
[13:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:37:28] <exec> 08└─someone saying that when a commenter says a forum has failed then it has failed.
[13:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03pgc [1600] (Score:2) 02Not so native then - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:35] <exec> 08└─Apparently they weren't native libraries.
[13:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02I feel let down - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:50] <exec> 08└─Nobody has yet mentioned the obvious application of these jetpacks--helping illegal immigrants hop the border.
[13:38:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:38:55] <exec> 08└─I am very sorry to say, peaceful protest is not going to solve this. we have talked and talked and they KNOW we are mad, but they don't believe we will take things to the next level. and even if we did, again, they have planned ahead for it all.
[13:39:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:41] <exec> 08└─Are you suggesting that not bathing were the reason slaves and miners worked to death, starved or several other ways of dying prematurely?
[13:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Deodorant - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:39:51] <exec> 08└─I definitely sweat garlic if I've had a lot of it. Never had a whole bulb, but a bowl of meaty soup can happily accept about 2 or 3 cloves per person, and I always like to throw most of it on last, so it's only cooked for a couple of minutes. So I'll be humming of garlic in the sauna. However, I won...
[13:41:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:41:15] <exec> 08└─The passphrase is as secure as Bob makes it, but you know how Bob is a whiner about long passphrase requirements. The passphrase is used to scramble Bob's private key before it goes to the server, and unscramble it when it rains back on him from the cloud. Bob's scrambled private key is known to an...
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[14:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fun stuff - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:38] <exec> 08└─Isn't that fun? Make up shit anyway you want, and get paid for it.
[14:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yea right. - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:39] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a leftist liberal plot to empower low wage workers into thinking they are worth more an eight bucks an hour. You're not a burger flipping/cashier/night watchman low wager. You're a skilled craftsman just like those Mayans and Egyptians! The nerve of some people.
[14:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:41] <exec> 08└─Wow! These people were living it large! They could decide when to do the dishes! They had discretionary powers over their kids' pottery schedule. Truly, this society was an egalitarian utopia!
[14:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:43] <exec> 08└─They could decide when to do the dishes! Still more freedom than I've got in my house.
[14:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:52] <exec> 08└─So. it must be some kind of magnetic field sent out by the pedometers that helps cure the rheumatism? Or perhaps swallowing the pedometers releases some kind of content from the plastic into the body with a hitherto undiscovered beneficial effect?
[14:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 1232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:54] <exec> 08└─That rock selling thing has been shown to work. Similarly, putting step-meters on people and giving them evidence of days when they aren't really walking much at all will often modify their behavior. We've got an older woman at work who now parks in the back of the lot to "get her steps in" - that d...
[14:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:35:56] <exec> 08└─Similarly, putting step-meters on people and giving them evidence of days when they aren't really walking much at all will often modify their behavior.
[14:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:36:04] <exec> 08└─However, one of the requirements of a Nobel prize is that the person is still alive. How to prove that for Nakamoto?
[14:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:36:05] <exec> 08└─There are several ways this could fail. First, he might be dead. Second, he might be isolated from the news. You're not going to have an easy time contacting him, if he stays at a lighthouse, backwoods cabin, or sailing boat and checks news once every two years whether he needs to or not. Third, Nak...
[14:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02So Satoshi is cool and all, but... - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:09] <exec> 08└─So Satoshi is cool and all, but the thing that makes bitcoin work is all the volunteers spending outrageous amounts of energy to support it. What's really been invented here is a way of convincing people to come together and cooperate to implement the scheme, the scheme itself isn't all that special...
[14:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03useless [426] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm Curious... - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:36:26] <exec> 08└─It was the reflection of Jupiter in swamp gas, now move along.
[14:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:great! - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:36:51] <exec> 08└─abd when they do make them change all the light bulbs! And wash the windows! IT maybe pretty but not maintainable... There is hotel in Atlanta that hires the local mountain climbing group to come once a year to clean the glass roof of snack bar in the middle of the atrium. The landscape (concrete) a...
[14:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Transparent Aluminum? - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:52] <exec> 08└─"Aye, that's the ticket, laddie!"
[14:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:David Cameron? - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 1113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:27] <exec> 08└─nonono -- This is a "Hey look, shiny!" And if people like the shiny, then all of that filtering and monitoring and stuff they are getting negative attention for asking about -- will be built into these upgrades. It's about the same time table to implement the other, so it can go in lock-step with a...
[14:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:37:47] <exec> 08└─Why do you expect your IDE to automatically manage all your dependencies for you?
[14:38:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Also known as - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:38:15] <exec> 08└─Wonkavator: pre-existing implementation.
[14:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:39:01] <exec> 08└─We also know, to a 99.998% degree of certainly, that the AC complaining about the modding here is actually the parent troll.
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[15:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You've got to be kidding me - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:40] <exec> 08└─"Frequency: 420-452Mhz" Smack in the middle of the 440 MHz ham band and UHF police/fire, etc. bands. I wouldn't recommend trying this in the USA.
[15:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03draconx [4649] (Score:2) 02Uhm..... - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:41] <exec> 08└─This isn't going to fly. According to the kickstarter page, this machine transmits at 420MHz~452MHz, which is allocated for amateur radio use. That might be OK (if all users are ham operators), but encryption is generally prohibited on amateur radio bands. This device will not receive certification.
[15:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uhm..... - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:43] <exec> 08└─The ham band only goes to 450 http://www.jneuhaus.com [jneuhaus.com] You're going to be stomping on broadcast auxiliary and commercial above that
[15:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03loic [5844] (Score:1) 02USB antenna + SDR + crypto software - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:45] <exec> 08└─ZOMG, incredible, someone used crypto software over a small SDR emitter/receiver!!! Nothing here, move along.
[15:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02A kilometer? Lies or problems! - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:46] <exec> 08└─A kilometer with that rubber duck antenna? This seems highly unlikely unless it has really high power levels. That'd make it a problem for other users of the radio spectrum. WTF didn't he just use an Xbee?
[15:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:35:58] <exec> 08└─Rabble rabble rabble! Overthrow the oppressive domestic government! We want to decide want we do with our dishes! Our dishes, our choice!
[15:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02The common people always have power - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:59] <exec> 08└─The reason is very simple: They're the majority. If they end up angry enough, they'll revolt against the people in charge and at the very least give them a fight they don't want to have, followed by those in charge having a manpower problem. The way that those with power counter that is: 1. Having a...
[15:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02As dumb as I think bitcoin is - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:25] <exec> 08└─There's something to be said for a nobel in economics going to a person who caused a practical transformation through the application of theory.
[15:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:I'm Curious... - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:36:44] <exec> 08└─Could be. There are a few rocket launches from Kodiak [wikipedia.org] and a handful of them would sort of go in that direction. Or it could be a bright meteor.
[15:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Unbreakable - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:11] <exec> 08└─Make an heirloom out of it and give it to my two year old. I'll tell you if it's actually unbreakable.
[15:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nearly... Just Nearly - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:13] <exec> 08└─NEARLY unbreakable glass ey? So it's still breakable?
[15:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:I applied as a background vocalist for a group - 06The Robot Rock Band, Want to Build a Vocalist - 1057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:37:25] <exec> 08└─The specialization in the field is incredible, look at top 40 pop for the past couple decades, hire a 18 year old white girl "exotic dancer" to lipsync and meanwhile bot is doing the actual singing, it sometimes causes a little cognitive dissonance when Britney bounces almost naked on to the stage a...
[15:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:10] <exec> 08└─No, stock Eclipse is designed for *Java* programming, and Android doesn't run Java, it runs Dalvik. As far as the language and bytecode are concerned it's the same, but Davlik only includes a small subset of the Java standard library, and includes a large selection of alternative libraries. Expectin...
[15:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02TLS ought to be important to anyone - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:11] <exec> 08└─a business environment that breaks SSL
[15:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:12] <exec> 08└─Why do you expect your IDE to automatically manage all your dependencies for you?
[15:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lunix Nutcase [3913] (Score:2) 02Re:Android - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:14] <exec> 08└─Make the *lives* of users, that is.
[15:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02NDK uses JNI - 06The Perils of Loading Native Libraries on Android - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:16] <exec> 08└─leveraging the power of the JNI (Java Native Interface.)
[15:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:38:47] <exec> 08└─The new 102-th floor NYC World Trade Center observation deck, like the old one, has a full-span elevator that takes under 1 minute.
[15:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:18] <exec> 08└─Maybe I'm inferring something you didn't mean imply, but I'm noticing a value judgement in your quoting how Apple is worth over 3x as much as New Zealand. If this value judgement was in fact intentionally implied, then which do you think would have a bigger impact on the world. Not which "should" ha...
[15:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:19] <exec> 08└─Maybe I'm inferring something you didn't mean imply, but I'm noticing a value judgement in your quoting how Apple is worth over 3x as much as New Zealand.
[15:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:42] <exec> 08└─You jest, but TISA [eff.org] is the capstone.
[15:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah they didn't like it when those we the 99% people did things in secret but protested in public. They kept trying to find someone to arrest and had difficulty identifying leading rule breakers to apprehend in their pursuit of justice. Instead, they ended up citing that oh you can't protest here b...
[15:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:39:56] <exec> 08└─The first four replies to this story are all ACs either cynical about protesting in the modern democratic "free" world or cynical about the reasons people may have for opposing TPP.
[15:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:40:11] <exec> 08└─The guy with the duck on his head is our debugger [wikipedia.org].
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[16:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02That device would never be FCC certified - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:42] <exec> 08└─The FCC might even pass it if it was provided for testing but the creator of the hardware never will. Though that doesn't mater because ham radio operators are allowed to operate non-certified equipment though they are responsible for any interference they cause and there are regulations on what can...
[16:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:57] <exec> 08└─You'll change your tune come volcano day.
[16:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:35:58] <exec> 08└─More free than serfs under the feudal system often were. Your lord would determine what crops you planted, for example.
[16:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nick Szabo - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:27] <exec> 08└─He's as good a guess [wikipedia.org] as any. BTW Szabo has quite a range. [soylentnews.org]
[16:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:37] <exec> 08└─Police are not tasked with keeping the peace. Their job is to enforce the law. I'll let you think upon that for a minute until you realize why sometimes it *looks like* they keep the peace...
[16:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'm Curious... - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:36:48] <exec> 08└─One night while stargazing, we saw a rocket engine fire up to do whats called an "transfer orbit burn". I got a good look at it with my 20X50 binoculars, it was awesome.
[16:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:2004 called and want's its glass back - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:12] <exec> 08└─Brilliant title: "glass breakthrough" for nearly unbreakable glass.
[16:37:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Re:Every dev in San FranRedmond should move to the - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:37:47] <exec> 08└─I no longer have to deal with the curb / kerb dilemma, since my 3-year old coined the phrase "road crust". Downside: Now I can't look at a road without getting hungry for pies.
[16:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02'Large Cock' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK PM - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:57] <exec> 08└─And then when the situation is just like today, just redefine "Large"... (10Mbps will not be too fast at all by 2020!) I think this initiative makes a lot of sense but this figure is simply ridiculous.
[16:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fast Fast Fast - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:59] <exec> 08└─Extra Extra! Fast Internet For Everyone! Read All About It! Also, we now have the ability to tap everything and anything you do online. With this capability, we can finally let you have access to fast internet. Because we tap everything and anything. It's for security bro!
[16:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:1) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:05] <exec> 08└─Nobody is suggesting making all of Texas as dense as NYC. The suggestion is that spreading a city's worth of population one story thin (like buttter scraped over too much bread) takes a lot of space, and a lot of roads, and causes a lot of transportation overhead for the most basic things like distr...
[16:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:06] <exec> 08└─seriously, why would you want to increase the density of our cities? if Texas was as densely populated as NYC, it would house 28 billion people. so tell me again, why do we need even denser cities?
[16:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Vaporware - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:14] <exec> 08└─There's no safety controls or emergency breaks, they haven't figured out how to keep one car from running into another
[16:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:39:55] <exec> 08└─Don't expect any significant changes. The people that should protest won't, because they have too much to lose. They're all slaves of the banks and tax system. They will lose their house, car, children's education et cetera if they man the barricades for more than a week. Only the people who have no...
[16:40:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 62 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:40:23] <exec> 08└─I'll only buy the spray if the can uses CFC's as a propellant.
[16:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:18] <exec> 08└─People are horrible at choosing passphrases. They over-estimate the entropy they are using. Search for "Brainwallet" for examples with money on the line.
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[17:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score:3, Touché) 02language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:38] <exec> 08└─Sounds a lot like the scams where you can have your name or other favorite word written or tattooed in ancient hieroglyphs or chinese characters using a completely invented 26 letter translation chart between our alphabet and a logographic language system.... (That must be how people end up with the...
[17:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:35:39] <exec> 08└─How many ways are there to announce to the world at large, "I'm a dumb chump, come take my money!" Or - should that be "dumb chimp"? Nahhhh - chimps are probably smarter than that.
[17:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:35:40] <exec> 08└─How many ways are there to announce to the world at large, "I'm a dumb chump, come take my money!"
[17:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:35:42] <exec> 08└─Or "your family coat of arms" carefully researched by our investigators.
[17:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02diverge - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:44] <exec> 08└─Should have diverged and either gone esoteric such as Stross style Old Enochian or modern such as QR codes. Really hacking the system would be a message that is simultaneously an Old Enochian curse and an old Persian shopping list and a valid QR code all at the same time.
[17:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Cut out the middle man - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:46] <exec> 08└─Now I'm thinking about what would be involved in building a USB clay tablet printer...
[17:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Uhm..... - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 3295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:35:56] <exec> 08└─Some google terms to search with wikipedia links from least specific to most specific: So here's the general concept of what we're talking about, or what the legal and suits call this stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It lists LPD433 as one of the hundred or so...
[17:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:USB antenna + SDR + crypto software - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:35:59] <exec> 08└─Some countrys or states may have laws regulating use of encryption over radio channels.
[17:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02sample size 1 - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:14] <exec> 08└─The problem with sample size 1 is this may not have been a typical village with a typical village leader... For example, say you got a snapshot of Wash DC during the crack smoking mayor era. The Mayan equivalent might have been the local chief was so Fed up on shrooms every single day that he couldn...
[17:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:38] <exec> 08└─If acceptance of the prize happens at all, it'll happen either because the party or parties that is/are Nakamoto is exposed or because a third party is appointed to accept the prize in his stead.
[17:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:39] <exec> 08└─Do we have a known, confirmed public key for this individual?
[17:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:36:40] <exec> 08└─He didn't have to premine to still make a pretty penny off of bitcoin at the beginning, as mining back in 2009 was a piece of cake on a modest laptop (a few hundred bitcoins NOT going to him would be a bit odd considering it was pretty slow out of the gate and didn't surpass $1/btc for over a year)....
[17:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:00] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. What makes you think they could hit a donut?
[17:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wimps - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:01] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. What makes you think they could hit a donut?
[17:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Much ado about nothing - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:13] <exec> 08└─The problem of telling people about Trident launches: Having to scrap the launch is a lot more embarrassing. Sure, they could blame "aircraft is the area". But if it happens multiple times, people might notice why .mil feels they need the capacity to nuke the world three times over, just in case a c...
[17:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:explained soon afterwards - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:37:16] <exec> 08└─I think it is sabre-rattling. They probably did tell the Russians ahead of time. Don't want to start WWIII over a test-launch.
[17:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Reinventing sapphire crystal - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:43] <exec> 08└─The chemical formula for Alumina [wikipedia.org] reminded me of something; yep, it's the same as Corundum, [wikipedia.org] Al2O3. When people talk about having a sapphire crystal on their watch, that's what it is. The process for synthesizing an Al2O3 glass is well understood and frequently practice...
[17:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fast Fast Fast - 06'Fast Internet' for All by 2020 Pledged - UK Prime Minister - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:38:24] <exec> 08└─Exactly. This is for capturing those last few missing data points.
[17:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I feel let down - 06Jetpack Pilot Soars Over NYC's Hudson River, Salutes Lady Liberty - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:39:07] <exec> 08└─Given the cost to Fedex a jetpack back to the other side of the wall, drugs are a more obvious choice. Don't worry, one Prez candidate will build a "wonderful" and "gorgeous" wall (his terms, really) and even jetpacks won't go through. I hope airlines don't mind having to go around the coast.
[17:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm not convinced... - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:40:51] <exec> 08└─I'm not crazy, I'm just talking to a rubber duck? Yeah, try that with the people in the white coats.
[17:41:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tathra [3367] 02Re:Well? - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 488 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:41:31] <exec> 08└─the real problem with not washing oneself off for a long time isn't the smell but the severe discomfort and even pain from the buildup of salts on one's skin, especially in areas that remain covered almost all the time (feet and groin). once you've sweat enough to start getting salts on your skin, y...
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[18:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Reality check... - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:36] <exec> 08└─> something that people can see themselves actually affording to get into While the average car price is climbing towards the $30k mark, did they look at the average price of the cars in that size/trim category, and applied the "chevy" discount? I'm pretty sure they're about $5k to $10k over (unsurp...
[18:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Existing vehicle? - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:38] <exec> 08└─I wonder if they fixed the problems with the power steering transistors overheating. Edit: Nope, was confusing it with the Cobalt [gminsidenews.com].
[18:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Cut out the middle man - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:52] <exec> 08└─Now I'm thinking about what would be involved in building a USB clay tablet printer...
[18:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cut out the middle man - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:35:53] <exec> 08└─Why not adapt a 3D printer to use clay, bake it in an oven to cure?
[18:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02Petco -- 11 dollars - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:55] <exec> 08└─Petco sells custom engraved nametags for about 11 dollars each, 80 characters (4x20) per side, 160 characters total. Small size is easier to lose than a clay tablet, but diamond-engraved aluminum is permanent enough for me.
[18:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:36] <exec> 08└─Guess you didn't read it either then.
[18:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:39] <exec> 08└─When you got your Fitbit, were you hoping to arrest a degenerative disease process or was your goal more nebulous? Was your reward reduced pain and fatigue or was it just a higher number?
[18:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Funny bit, - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:36:54] <exec> 08└─There are a couple of sites he used to post on. One of his accounts made a post saying something like "I am not Dorian Nakamoto" after the media decided to chase an old man by that name around San Franscisco. Whether that post was from him or somebody else who had compromised his account/password is...
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[19:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality check... - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:41] <exec> 08└─Aren’t the lower-end Teslas approaching this price after incentives anyway? I'd wager there's a pretty large difference in reliability, performance, comfort, and just about everything else as well. Perhaps I'm underestimating the price of the Teslas, or over-estimating the incentives.
[19:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Existing vehicle? - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:43] <exec> 08└─I won't be buying any GM, Ford, or Dodge product. They're all crap.
[19:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Terrible Name - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:45] <exec> 08└─Marketing has made a huge blunder with this car. They really, really, really need to come up with a new name. The "Volt" is their sort-of-hybrid and the "Bolt" is the all electric. They could not have picked two names more easy to confuse in meaning, speech and writing - not only do B and V sound al...
[19:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible Name - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:46] <exec> 08└─The very least they could do is add three letters and call it the "voltage."
[19:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible Name - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:48] <exec> 08└─There are the: Volt Bolt Which of these do you think is the electric one? If you said 'Bolt'*, you'd be right! *no one is going to say that
[19:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03snick [1408] (Score:2) 02Re:Terrible Name - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:50] <exec> 08└─... I'm thinking that the Bolt somehow runs on cloth?
[19:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02slight problem - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:51] <exec> 08└─it's the ugliest $40K car there is. did they hire a blind man for the job?
[19:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wierd0n3 [1033] (Score:1) 02Re:slight problem - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:35:53] <exec> 08└─I dunno, i like that it's a passenger vehicle first. It's not so much ugly, as plain. I personally can't understand why people spend money on a Lincoln or those awful Jeeps now. (to be fair, i thought the older styles were cool, now jeeps look like a 6 eyed monster face.) now, you want ugly, scroll...
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[19:35:55] <exec> 08└─Style varies greatly from person to person. There are plenty of cars I think are ugly, yet people drive them. This design isn't nearly as bad as some others, and the orange paintjob is probably adding to the jarring effect. Personally I like the hatchback body style, more compact yet more usable roo...
[19:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Batteries etc - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:57] <exec> 08└─I suspect Chevy has the battery chain pretty well in hand by now, since GM owns all or substantially of one of the big battery manufacturers. They can also buy from Tesla, because Musk's new battery plant is slated to have excess capacity. Probably the Chinese venture planning car manufacture in Cal...
[19:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:05] <exec> 08└─http://web.archive.org/web/20080217223452/http://www.zug.com/pranks/tattoo/ [archive.org]
[19:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:language scams - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:07] <exec> 08└─The hell of it is, the tat was probably LESS coherent than "bean curd". http://hanzismatter.blogspot.ca [blogspot.ca] (See also literally the rest of that site, half the entries refer back to the font in this one.) Then again, maybe she's like the guy...
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[19:36:11] <exec> 08└─The first edition of Programming Perl, long long ago, had hysterical examples of Job from the Old Testament sending out messages from Perl through CTBCPP, Clay Tablet By Carrier Pigeon Protocol, featuring a description of Job's laser clay tablet engraver. Loved that pink camel book - the world has c...
[19:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Longest lasting format - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:13] <exec> 08└─When you guys back up your hard drives (which you do, because it was covered here about a month ago, right?) do you choose the longest lasting historic medium because it should hold up pretty well? For instance, the 3.5 inch floppy had a pretty good run, which would suggest they last a long time. On...
[19:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The only surviving artifact from pre-3000 CE: - 06Dumb Cuneiform: Memorialize Your Tweets in Cuneiform - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:15] <exec> 08└─FRIST POST!
[19:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You've got to be kidding me - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:23] <exec> 08└─Yeaah, if anywhere in here the truth is that USA is not the whole world. For some reasons USA has in this case also totally different frequency reservations than europe and probably a lot of the rest of the world. So before you start with that crap, think for a second.
[19:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:You've got to be kidding me - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:25] <exec> 08└─I'm sure they'll be happy to take US dollars for a device illegal to use here, though. There is no mention on the kickstarter page that most of the spectrum they use is in licensed bands in the US.
[19:36:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03draconx [4649] 02Uhm..... - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 300 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:27] <exec> 08└─This isn't going to fly. According to the kickstarter page, this machine transmits at 420MHz~452MHz, which is allocated for amateur radio use. That might be OK (if all users are ham operators), but encryption is generally prohibited on amateur radio bands. This device will not receive certification.
[19:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Uhm..... - 06RATS: the Radio Transceiver System, an Open Source Communication Tool for the Security-Obsessed - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:28] <exec> 08└─They used to, maybe still do, use ham radio for PC networking.
[19:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:36:46] <exec> 08└─> Your lord would determine what crops you planted, for example. Right now, the markets do, as drunk oracles that the farmers try to interpret to maximize their individual return... So we end up with too much milk one year and not enough the next, too much corn one year and too much wheat the next....
[19:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:correlation not causation - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:00] <exec> 08└─MY God! Will somebody just read the article!!! (And then tell us what it says, lest our posts wax ignorant.)
[19:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:So Satoshi is cool and all, but... - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:24] <exec> 08└─I think there are multiple prerequisites for a network like Bitcoin to succeed, and a strong community is certainly one of them. I'm not sure why you think the scheme (by which I think you mean the blockchain) isn't special or useful. Do you have an alternative suggestion for a completely decentrali...
[19:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:As dumb as I think bitcoin is - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:37:26] <exec> 08└─The award this year is sponsored by the energy companies, who want you mining like crazy. It's not as if we'll ever run out of fossil fuels, or anything.
[19:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02please correct the title - 06Bitcoin Inventor Satoshi Nakamoto Nominated for Nobel Prize - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:28] <exec> 08└─there is no Nobel Prize in economics. While anyone and their dog can make their own prize and call it "in memory of Alfred Nobel" that doesn't make it a Noble Prize. Call it what it is, swedens central bank's prize for economic non-science.
[19:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02UFO? - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:58] <exec> 08└─The UFO label is misused. I suggest they start being called Misidentified Flying Objects. That leaves room for people to declare what they "really" are.
[19:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02...nearly unbreakable - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:27] <exec> 08└─So far, the only known weakness of the glass is when it is fashioned into a flat rectangle and dropped on a tile floor from a height greater than two feet, it shatters.
[19:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Re:How tall is enough? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:11] <exec> 08└─Our current space elevators are rocket powered, and independent of elevator shafts.
[19:40:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:19] <exec> 08└─One interesting example of how population density makes some amenities possible is a cruise ship. I understand that they have some pretty good stuff going on for their guests, attractions that would be unaffordable without a lot of people nearby.
[19:40:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gault.Drakkor [1079] (Score:1) 02Re:why? - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:21] <exec> 08└─Why density is useful: - Long tail allows for more shops/services/groups/ etc (as others have mentioned). - Service efficiencies - mass transit,/reduced need for transport. - Greener/ environmental protection. if vast majority lived in super high density cities (along with dense food, power) humans...
[19:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score:1) 02Disney has several - 06Thyssenkrupp Unveils Model of the MULTI, a Vertical Mass Transit System - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:28] <exec> 08└─Disney's Tower of Terror would be a good model; it goes up, down, and sideways. It also has some safety features that prevent rapid deceleration after a fall, for sufficiently large values of 'rapid'.
[19:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is there anything specific they don't like - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:40:58] <exec> 08└─Due to Poe's law, it is difficult to distinguish between ill-informed opinion and deliberate trolling. A normal troll test is to check if the poster's argument is self-consistent. If an argument ignores known facts, that may be because the writer is uninformed, or deliberately spreading FUD. It is h...
[19:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:humans don't need to shower to be healthy - 06Get a Whiff of This: Man Hasn't Showered in 12 Years - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:41:51] <exec> 08└─Yes, humans don't naturally smell bad, even when not showering or bathing regularly.
[19:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:PGP is damn hard to use - 06Why Johnny Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:29] <exec> 08└─If the Cloud Can't decrypt your mail, there is no reason to have the cloud.
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[20:35:39] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] 02Find Agressive Closet Cases in Your Area! - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:39] <exec> 08└─Sublimate your homoerotic compulsion in a "no holds barred" PHYSICAL altercation!
[20:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Find Agressive Closet Cases in Your Area! - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:40] <exec> 08└─It's safe to say that, yes, there will be some closet cases here, looking to relate to other men in a way that doesn't cross their boundaries in terms of their self-perception of masculinity. On the other hand, there will also be the assholes who are just looking to rob someone dumb enough to want t...
[20:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:2) 02Re:Find Agressive Closet Cases in Your Area! - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:42] <exec> 08└─In the spirit of freedom, we should be rejoicing that a method of finding willing participants is available, rather than having all the bullies sucker-punching random people on the street.
[20:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Tinder Fight Club - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:44] <exec> 08└─So it's like Tinder Fight Club? I prefer the regular one that ends in sex instead of a punch in the nuts.
[20:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tinder Fight Club - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:46] <exec> 08└─I prefer the regular one that ends in STD's instead of a punch in the nuts.
[20:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Brilliant - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:47] <exec> 08└─Get a guy to come to fight you, beat him up and take his cellphone. Self defense if there are witnesses, otherwise free phone.
[20:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who gives a shit? - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:49] <exec> 08└─Let people remove themselves from the gene pool, everybody benefits.
[20:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Who gives a shit? - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:35:52] <exec> 08└─Seriously. Can we also deny free medical coverage to these people?
[20:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02programmed by - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:54] <exec> 08└─Phoenix666 and cmn32480 .
[20:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Perfect! - 06Rumblr is Like a Dating App, But for Fistfights - 809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:55] <exec> 08└─Now: Racists can fight each other e.g. WM looking to beat up niggers/BM looking to beat up cracka ass crackaz Christians can set up fights with terrorist muslims (or as they spell it, moslems, as they are mentally disabled) Closet sadists can get their boners beating up weaker men Men hating feminis...
[20:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality check... - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:01] <exec> 08└─> if they fuck this up the company will die this decade. Being over-dramatic just a bit? Considering the mix of cars and trucks, longevity of cars, incremental cost and infrastructure issues of EVs, not even counting lobbying, GM will survive at least another 15 years even if they don't produce any...
[20:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reality check... - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:03] <exec> 08└─Well the price-point Tesla is aiming at will be base model. And their add-ons are notoriously pricey. You could get Model 3, and add onto it all the features and come up with something 2 times as expensive. So time will tell. At least Tesla is leading the market by the balls. GM knows they are behin...
[20:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Reality check... - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 1129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:05] <exec> 08└─This is the problem with EVs right now, the up front price premium will pay for a lot of gasoline (even after the $7500 subsidy). The next generation of electric vehicles may be able to pay back that difference in reduced net operating costs over their life, but it'll still take ~100k miles to do so...
[20:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Terrible Name - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:11] <exec> 08└─Not to mention that in Japanese there is no distinction between the B and V sounds, so they'll both become "Boruto" :) Probably something similar will happen with Chinese and maybe a few other Asian languages.
[20:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:slight problem - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:14] <exec> 08└─I think the BMW looks better to me but that might be because of the two-tone paint job and the fancier bumper/grille design. The Chevy isn't that bad but the bumper/grille is a bit meh. Perhaps if they two-toned it or added some more curves to the front, it would look nicer. Like everything else, be...
[20:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03skater [4342] (Score:2) 02Re:slight problem - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:15] <exec> 08└─now jeeps look like a 6 eyed monster face
[20:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03K_benzoate [5036] (Score:2) 02Re:slight problem - 06All-Electric Chevy Bolt to be Sold in All 50 US States, GM Says - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:36:17] <exec> 08└─I heard an interesting idea from someone once, obviously flawed but made me think, that car makers intentionally make hybrids/EV look "unique" for the purpose of virtue signaling. It's entirely possible to make a hybrid look just like a normal car, but those models don't sell as much as the outwardl...
[20:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yea right. - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:06] <exec> 08└─This was sarcasm/humor. Mod obviously has a -1 applied to their sense of humor.
[20:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Food Storage - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:13] <exec> 08└─Surely you have heard of storage. We store grain in silos, preserve milk as cheese or milk powder, etc. We aren't living hand to mouth each year.
[20:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Awesome freedoms! - 06'Pompeii of the New World' Reveals Power of Mayan Commoners - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:37:15] <exec> 08└─That would be the Marxist interpretation of the agriculture market, yes.
[20:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02degenerative condition - 06Pedometers: the New Prescription for Rheumatoid Arthritis - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:33] <exec> 08└─May help in some limited cases, but RA is a degenerative condition with deformity of the feet in many cases which inhibits walking to say the least. RA is not "arthritis" the kind that elderly people get that makes opening medicine bottles difficult. The name is misleading because osteoarthritis and...
[20:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''Peace officers'' vs ''Law enforcement'' - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:09] <exec> 08└─If you go back in time, they named their guilds using the former. [google.com] If we tabulate the levels of cop thuggery, my bet is that we would find a troubling inflection point in the period where they (and Lamestream Media) started using the latter. -- gewg_
[20:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''who the boss is'' - 06U.S. Navy Launches Trident Missile from Submarine, Seen All Over West Coast - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:19] <exec> 08└─...because the other guys don't have any end-the-world capabilities. Oh, wait. ...and this sort of saber rattling couldn't possibly put anybody under enough stress that he would get twitchy and start WWIII. The Bedford Incident -- Similarities to a real Cold War incident [wikipedia.org] (Twitchy guy...
[20:38:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03davester666 [155] 02Re:2004 called and want's its glass back - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 45 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:47] <exec> 08└─Scotty says "You're welcome" from the future.
[20:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:2004 called and want's its glass back - 06 Japanese Scientists Invent Nearly Unbreakable Glass - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:38:48] <exec> 08└─Hello computer!
[20:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:So it has come to this - 06Mass Mobilization To Stop The TPP Announced - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:41:44] <exec> 08└─I believe this is why change is oft driven by the youth.
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