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[06:51:57] <crutchy> oh crap
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[06:58:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:27] <exec> 08└─... because I know how to solve The Chocolate Chip Cookie Problem: WITHOUT USING A CALCULATOR! Tell me how many chocolate chips must be mixed into the dough required to bake one hundred thousand chocolate chip cookies, such that ninety-eight percent of the cookies contain at least two chips. Among t...
[06:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:29] <exec> 08└─Don't forget to tighten your necktie so tight that you choke to death on your cookies.
[06:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:31] <exec> 08└─OMG! MDC has a stalker! Calling the Hairyfeet Suppression Society! Take this AC down! Mod bombing is authorized, with extreme prejudice! Let us never hear from him again.
[06:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:33] <exec> 08└─It's Crowford's own fault for being such egotistical crowing rooster all the damn time, man. He attracts stalkers like a willing rape victim.
[06:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:35] <exec> 08└─Among the reasons there are so many successful casinos is that so many people have a poor understanding of probability.
[06:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:38] <exec> 08└─Among the reasons there are so many successful casinos is that so many players have a poor understanding of probability and don't care. People don't play in casinos to make money, instead they get jobs that pay money. Responsible players budget an amount of money they are willing to lose, and they p...
[06:58:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:39] <exec> 08└─Not only did eggheads game the system, which in itself is damning enough, but they took money from poor desperate stupid people who can barely afford to play the lottery. This story is why people hate nerds, and rightfully so. So. When can we expect these MIT students to be thrown in prison forever...
[06:58:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:41] <exec> 08└─Not only did eggheads game the system, which in itself is damning enough, but they took money from poor desperate stupid people who can barely afford to play the lottery.
[06:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:44] <exec> 08└─Now remember, when someone pushes you in front of a bus, it will be the bus that will kill you, not the person who pushed you.
[06:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Not the Only Vulnerable Lottery - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:46] <exec> 08└─Cracking the Scratch Lottery Code [wired.com]
[06:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aichon [5059] (Score:2) 02Re:Not the Only Vulnerable Lottery - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:48] <exec> 08└─I actually conflated this case with the one you just linked. That said, it's worth pointing out that this case is from 2012, so it's a few years old.
[06:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What a crappy main article link - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:50] <exec> 08└─The title says "How" but neither the main article nor summary say how. One of the links is better: https://www.boston.com [boston.com] (the ny daily news one is f...
[06:58:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03blackhawk [5275] (Score:1) 02Lotto - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:52] <exec> 08└─This was done many times 30 years ago or more over here in Australia. Large syndicates full of wealthy people who didn't even need the money would wait for the jackpot to reach a given figure, and then they would cover enough numbers to ensure a win. Looks like history repeating itself.
[06:58:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] 02Recommended Reading - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 537 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:55] <exec> 08└─"The Coming Plague" by Laurie Garrett "The Hot Zone" - I can't be bothered to look up the author. I heard a radio interview of Garrett in which she remarked that "40% of Americans surveyed are opposed to public health". She wasn't referring to "public health care", rather "public health" such as ens...
[06:58:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Re:Recommended Reading - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:58:57] <exec> 08└─Your SIG is stupid. Learn bash and modify it you lazy asshole. If you can spend time on here spewing your stupid shit you can take two minutes to read a man page or Google you stupid lazy fatass.
[06:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:00] <exec> 08└─... you could get a good job, rent your own place, even buy a car. Perhaps someday you could even attract the attentions of a cute girlfriend.
[06:59:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:02] <exec> 08└─Clothes make the Man! If you look like a successful Man, you must be a successful Man. Right? Women, stay in the kitchen. If you are female, your only purpose in life is to be cute and find a rich husband. Right? And don't be Black. Black people are no good at anything. Right? Thanks for setting bac...
[06:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Do you know why I like to wear neckties? - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:04] <exec> 08└─I own several, all of them top-quality. I wear them because wearing neckties leads women to believe I have a real job.
[06:59:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Did you know women dislike mental illness? - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:06] <exec> 08└─If you're trolling for women with your neckties, you'll only ever find gold-diggers. I hope you like superficial greedy bitches.
[06:59:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02that's not generally the case - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:08] <exec> 08└─I'm always very up-front about my mental illness when I date new women; consider that every page on my site makes my diagnosis plainly apparent. My ex-wife first contacted me when she stumbled across my first web page about my experiences with manic depression. Just wearing a necktie isn't going to...
[06:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02You must be quite the ladies man, - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:10] <exec> 08└─The ladies adore confident, gregarious, shameless self-promotion, especially when it's all lies.
[06:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:13] <exec> 08└─Ah ha! You've been found out AC: http://dilbert.com [dilbert.com]
[06:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:14] <exec> 08└─I've never even met Dilbert, you moron. It's a bigger world out there than you seem to think it is.
[06:59:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:16] <exec> 08└─Wow! A entire diversion on MJC's tagline! 'Cause it's not proper bash? Dude! That may be the point! Ever think of that? Not to mention you are taking on a self-confessed crazy guy! And wearing ties? Who does that anymore, except people on Game of Thrones? Seriously! So let's all get back to the imp...
[06:59:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I don't particularly care that it's not proper bas - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:18] <exec> 08└─h and can't really be bothered to find out. The AC is entirely missing my point, that being that I regard analytics as a tool of the Devil.
[06:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:20] <exec> 08└─the impending pandemic that can kill us all
[06:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:23] <exec> 08└─You win the Internet today for not being sufficiently aware or alarmed. And those two things are not necessarily connected.
[06:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:24] <exec> 08└─Life. Life is the pandemic. It has a fatality rate of 100%.
[06:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:26] <exec> 08└─Clothes make the Man! If you look like a successful Man, you must be a successful Man.
[06:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe if you got a haircut, bought some clothes - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:28] <exec> 08└─Faux-liberals like you are the most intolerant pile of shitbags in western societies. You literally talk like fucking nazis.
[06:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02south korea - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:29] <exec> 08└─South Korea is basically all North Korea because all the people live in Seoul, which is spitting distance (judging by your girlfriend) from North Korea. Did I mention Korean people are stupid? There are over 200 chinks dead in a sunken ferry because the captain told them to stay in their quarters wh...
[06:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:south korea - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:32] <exec> 08└─>> which is spitting distance (judging by your girlfriend) Thanks for the compliment! >> Did I mention Korean people are stupid? No. That was your first mention. I suggest you get your short-term memory checked. >> There are over 200 chinks dead in a sunken ferry... You used the incorrect terminolog...
[06:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:south korea - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:33] <exec> 08└─Chink is a derogatory name for Chinese. A ferry rolled over and killed about 300 people just the other day. Well, I dimly recall the number 300 being bandied about.
[06:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02reactions - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:36] <exec> 08└─if you haven't already dawned your level A hazmat suit (type I for our euro-friends), just throw in the towel because it's OVER for you! interesting: The difference between US vs UK Ebola news coverage [youtube.com]
[06:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02A dead-simple approach to this problem - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:37] <exec> 08└─While this won't solve the problem it will go a long ways towards containing it: The last couple times I visited a medical clinic, the receptionist asked me whether I had traveled outside the country recently. That's It. Even if it's not MERS or Ebola, traveling far from home exposes you to many dis...
[06:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A dead-simple approach to this problem - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:40] <exec> 08└─Pursuant to public health, no travel of any kind shall be permitted. If you live more than 10 miles away from your workplace, find another job.
[06:59:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Funny) 02Assman? Unlikely. - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:42] <exec> 08└─To call him an Assman would imply his balls had dropped.
[06:59:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Assman? Unlikely. - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:43] <exec> 08└─one and done
[06:59:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Sun's lawyers and the Java trademark - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:45] <exec> 08└─I understand that back in the day, Sun was quite threatening to any business that used the word "Java" in trade. I always wondered what the people of Indonesia had to say about that, as well as those who were in some way involved in the coffee business. Trademark law is well-established, in part by...
[06:59:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Sun's lawyers and the Java trademark - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:47] <exec> 08└─There are sometimes exceptions. One of the more evil things that the IOC does is force the hosting nation to pass stricter laws protecting the Olympic trademark. This was particularly bad when Athens hosted the games, because 'we've been using the name hundreds of years longer than you' was not a de...
[06:59:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Here are six more infringers - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 1652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:49] <exec> 08└─(From a casual google search). These people are robbing Mr Asman blind; he better get going filing those lawsuits right away. MyCase [mycase.com] case management software. "Thousands of attorneys and legal professionals use MyCase's all-in-one legal practice management software for case and matter m...
[06:59:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Don't Forget ClearCase! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:51] <exec> 08└─Computer Aided Software Engineering was all the rage back in the day.
[06:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:52] <exec> 08└─Asman believes any Web-based legal software with "case" in its name should be under his purview.
[06:59:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:54] <exec> 08└─I would not worry too much. I suspect that, somewhere on /b/, there are people charging up their lasers.
[06:59:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score:2) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:59:56] <exec> 08└─Doesn't that fall under the restriction that you can't trademark the words of a language?
[06:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rodney Dangerfield - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:57] <exec> 08└─"People always ask me what I like most about a woman's body, they say are you a leg man, are you a breast man, are you an ass man. I finally decided I must be an ass man. Yeah, people always go up and say to me, 'You're an ass, man!'"
[06:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Wasn't Assman... - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:59:59] <exec> 08└─a proctologist on a Seinfeld episode? Oh wait, same thing.
[07:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:00] <exec> 08└─To sum up, still on the front page, we move from Surfer's Bums, to Paypal robocals and then on to Post-Apocalyptic Native American Star Wars scripts, and then a Fine Article on Mind-controlled Prosthetic Legs, and now we arrive, finally, at the Assman. In the end, as it was in the beginning. Nanoo,...
[07:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:03] <exec> 08└─Good news, it looks like Hugh got over being pissed at SN's editors.
[07:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:05] <exec> 08└─That's not good news. It's all duplicated content previously submitted to an inferior website. It might be good news if we got some quality, first run submissions. Piss on the brand x site.
[07:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:06] <exec> 08└─Where are your submissions? It's easy to sit back and say everything sucks, doesn't meet my standards. What makes you so deserving of special effort?
[07:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:09] <exec> 08└─Not a complaint about quality of submissions, just noticing a disturbance in the Force, so to speak. Carry on!
[07:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:10] <exec> 08└─There is nothing preventing any submitter from offering their work to more than 1 site. I don't read the other site - so I wouldn't know. I am told however, that some of our stories also get repeated on other sites, long after we have already published.
[07:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Links to trademarks (plus some commentary) - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 1526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:13] <exec> 08└─CaseSpace [uspto.gov] filed July 10 2008 CaseWebs [uspto.gov] filed February 6 2007 CaseRails [uspto.gov] filed May 5 2015 They do appear to be in the same Goods & Service category ("Electronic storage of files and documents"), but I personally feel that general file storage is a distinct market ver...
[07:00:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Re:Links to trademarks (plus some commentary) - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:15] <exec> 08└─Dammit, apparently you can't permalink to TESS pages (or at least, I can't figure out how to). Didn't notice it until I'd closed the session, which was after I tested the links. Sorry.
[07:00:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Makes me happy - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:17] <exec> 08└─The 3 charities I've given money to for the last 20 years are the EFF, American Alzheimer's Association (MiL had it, sucked to watch her go), and Helen Woodward (they gave a favorite cat another 3-4 years).
[07:00:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"Our lawyer is bigger than your lawyer" - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:19] <exec> 08└─A common problem is that lawyers know very well that many respondents would rather settle than lift a finger to answer a complaint. The US legal system is particularly screwed up because of the "Deep Pockets" rule. This right chap may be completely unaware of who the EFF or Ars Technica even are. Co...
[07:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's called the Golden Rule - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:21] <exec> 08└─He who has the gold makes the rules.
[07:00:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Troll) 02I was going to make a bionic frog when I was 13 - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:23] <exec> 08└─My idea was to cut a frog's legs off, then hook up electrical sensors to its nerves, that would control electromechanical legs. My mother's father was a surgeon who perished at quite a tragically early age, so she has always encouraged any interest I've ever shown in medicine. At the time she was a...
[07:00:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Godwin - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:24] <exec> 08└─Human anatomy is well documented because Nazi doctors documented it. You're welcome.
[07:00:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2, Interesting) 02I understand that Jewish people... - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:26] <exec> 08└─... when asked whether the nazi discoveries should be kept, for example taught to medical students, they want them to be so that the sacrifices of the holocaust victims will not have been in vain.
[07:00:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:I understand that Jewish people... - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:28] <exec> 08└─...or in vein, either.
[07:00:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02This wasn't a troll; it is the Gospel Truth - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:29] <exec> 08└─I was quite the science nerd when I was a kid. Unfortunately there is a good reason that there is such a thing as the study of ethics.
[07:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This wasn't a troll; it is the Gospel Truth - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:32] <exec> 08└─Cool story, brah.
[07:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Ima gonna hack yer legs - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:34] <exec> 08└─You gonna walk to the liquor store and rob the place for me. You got no choice. I control yer fuckin legs, bro.
[07:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Please bring one of these guy to... - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:36] <exec> 08└─Dancing with the Stars! They have had to amputees on the show. This would be the key next step, no possible "messing with scoring" to handle a girl with no ankles who can't point the toes or the army vet with no left arm or left leg, trying to do lifts and twirls. Though note, they both did very wel...
[07:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02are hands easier? - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:38] <exec> 08└─Time to order the prosthetic legs and fasten them on commodity robots.
[07:00:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02my bionic hands won't stop masturbating - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:39] <exec> 08└─I'm a frequent donor at the sperm bank.
[07:00:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:my bionic hands won't stop masturbating - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:41] <exec> 08└─Shut up --goo'g__
[07:00:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score:2) 02Re:are hands easier? - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:43] <exec> 08└─No. Hands are radically harder. With legs we're at the point now where full basic mobility and most functional elements are restored (up to and just short of things like rock climbing). With hands, we're still struggling to do substantially better than a split hook body-powered manipulator for pract...
[07:00:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02I want to go further. - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:46] <exec> 08└─How much longer until they can put a wifi antenna on the top of my head (I still have hair, damn it) and an ethernet jack in my neck so that I can just "jack in" (not the opposite of jack off) to the 'net and be done with it? Seriously. I would volunteer and pay for as much of the research as I can...
[07:00:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uploading malware! - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:48] <exec> 08└─Malware uploaded into your brain. You now have an insatiable craving to eat some Twinkies. Don't stop until you die.
[07:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Uploading malware! - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:50] <exec> 08└─I am hoping brain power will negate the need for AV software but security is a process. I am going to go with obscurity and install Puppy Linux. I am also old so I do not have much drive space left. I may dual boot and use a proprietary OS for when I am intoxicated and want to apply meatspace caps l...
[07:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:52] <exec> 08└─Back to ox-cart and sailboats. Healthy life!
[07:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:54] <exec> 08└─I'd like to take the train. Unfortunately my country's passenger rail system is complete shit.
[07:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:57] <exec> 08└─Are you what they call a USian?
[07:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:00:58] <exec> 08└─Are you what they call a USian? America has a rail system. In fact it has long distance rail, but certainly the Boston-Washington corridor doesn't have a terrible system (it's not great, but not terrible. Similar to a branch line in a modern country) Some countries, like Paraguay, have hardly any ra...
[07:00:59] -!- Yog-Yogguth [Yog-Yogguth!~Yog-Yoggu@474.06-724-78.nextgentel.com] has joined #comments
[07:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:01] <exec> 08└─I believe that much of that rail is owned by commercial interests and, unfortunately, the right of way is given to freight and not to passengers. It is like saying that you can take the road behind my house (and this is real) to Canada. You can. You certainly can. However you are not going to take i...
[07:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:03] <exec> 08└─6000 mile train journeys tend to be tedious.
[07:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:04] <exec> 08└─The longest rail journey I've taken was Montreal to Calgary, and it was great.
[07:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:06] <exec> 08└─My schedule for the next month is Manchester->London->Manchester->Exeter->Plymouth->Exeter->Manchester->London->Manchester->Singapore->Manchester->Jerusalem->Gaza->Manchester->Singapore There might be a side-trip to Geneva fit in there, or possibly even LA (though I think I've palmed that off) but t...
[07:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:08] <exec> 08└─That would not really be practical by train, no. And I expect the Manchester to Singapore bit might get a wee bit damp.
[07:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:10] <exec> 08└─I actually had an experience of a seriously toxic smell in the aircraft. It was kind of a bad feeling to know it's toxic and you can't get away and you have to breathe the shit. So packing a small gas mask with carbon filters could perhaps solve the issue as a quick fix?
[07:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:12] <exec> 08└─I use a gas mask with a proper filtering system quite a bit when woodworking (you wouldn't believe what old paints and finishes can put into the air when sanding back reclaimed wood) let along how much dust can get up your nose from clean wood. These masks don't look friendly, and I can certainly sa...
[07:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:13] <exec> 08└─Woodworking and paint sanding is likely to cause quite large particles. The fumes in planes like TCP is likely very fine molecules. So different filtering type is needed. But your point about security is one to consider. It should however be possible to pass by using a less scary and small gas mask?...
[07:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:15] <exec> 08└─The fumes in planes like TCP is likely very fine molecules.
[07:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:17] <exec> 08└─I actually had an experience of a seriously toxic smell in the aircraft. It was kind of a bad feeling to know it's toxic and you can't get away and you have to breathe the shit. So packing a small gas mask with carbon filters could perhaps solve the issue as a quick fix?
[07:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Stop complaining about the smell, kids... - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:18] <exec> 08└─Just turn off the AC and open the windows for a while
[07:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Go By Train - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:20] <exec> 08└─Oh, sorry, I live in the US. But seriously - coal miners complained of black lung disease for decades, always the mining companies discounted their claims. Eventually the miners won some manner of benefit, but because that benefit is paid directly by the mining companies, the miners find that they c...
[07:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score:2) 02Bigger issues - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:22] <exec> 08└─Inhalation of combustion byproducts is unlikely to be good for one's health. Nevertheless, it's going to be hard to prove that there is a direct causal relationship. The larger issue is that in modern cities we are exposing ourselves to a known and very damaging pollutant: diesel particulates. Thoug...
[07:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Bigger issues - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:24] <exec> 08└─In less modern societies, you just lived in a permanent smog of chimneys, cooking fires, and candles... I'll take the current option, even if my upwind neighbor is a bit addicted to his charcoal grill.
[07:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I remember the days - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:27] <exec> 08└─...when aircraft were flying smokers. Yes, they had a "non-smoking" section but seriously... Now any smoke is a problem. How the world changes. I'm not complaining, BTW. I like the fact that they are actually being forced to be concerned for peoples's health.
[07:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:28] <exec> 08└─When I fly in the US it seems like there is about a 50/50 chance that the air will reek of something chemical while on the ground. Its been like that for decades too. Anyone know what that smell is?
[07:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score:2) 02Re:Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:31] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing vapors from refueling.
[07:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03subs [4485] (Score:2) 02Re:Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:32] <exec> 08└─Jet fuel.
[07:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gertlex [3966] (Score:1) 02Re:Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:34] <exec> 08└─Your fear. After all, you're an anonymous coward. ;)
[07:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:36] <exec> 08└─Mcdonalds
[07:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Aerotoxic syndrome perhaps - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:38] <exec> 08└─This sounds like http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.toxiccabinair.com [toxiccabinair.com] http://aerotoxic.org [aerotoxic.org] Friend has become very sensitive to this, (real or not, I don't know), but she tries never to fly anymore,...
[07:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Virgin won't care... - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:39] <exec> 08└─...he's too busy trying to stem the music industries copyright infringements. You know, music pays bigger dividends especially when you can sue grandma for some money after her granchildren's downloads.
[07:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Books - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:41] <exec> 08└─Or, you know, and one of hundreds of science fictions books that rely on exactly the same concept. Personally I think relating it to native American culture in any way is a big stretch and "acting white" is a little racist.
[07:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Books - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:44] <exec> 08└─It also ignores the 20 or so other people who were involved in making that game. It seemed more of homage aliens/the thing/scifi genera than anything. Did not really see native american influences at all. DOOM was what it was because there was nothing else really like it. The hype around it was pret...
[07:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03TWX [5124] (Score:1) 02Re:Books - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I see a lot of Lovecraftian and other vintage horror influences, even some homage to Warhammer 40k. Admittedly I am no expert on American indigenous work or thought, but what I have seen has always seemed more abstract than the in-your-face nature of the action in most of the id Software games...
[07:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03pasky [1050] (Score:1) 02Native American Doom - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:48] <exec> 08└─So the main claim seems to be that Doom (that very famous 90s FPS) has brought Native American influence to computer games. What influence in particular? Anyone got that?
[07:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score:2) 02Re:Native American Doom - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:49] <exec> 08└─TFS ended LaPensée's quotation a line too early (at least for my tastes): “[Our communities] have always related in multiple dimensions,” she said. “I believe that influenced John’s work and influenced games as a whole." "I can't prove that!" she added.
[07:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Native American Doom - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 933 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:52] <exec> 08└─You read TFA? You must be new here ;-) Yes, I too know little about American tribal cultures to be able to discern what aspects of Doom or other games are specifically related to them. But it was an interesting thought so I submitted the article. Usually the only non-Western culture you see well rep...
[07:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Native American Doom - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:54] <exec> 08└─Probably what taking a shitload of Peyote looks and sounds like.
[07:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Huh - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:55] <exec> 08└─I am not interested in games - I haven't played one in couple decades - but this is an interesting angle.
[07:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Re:Huh - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:58] <exec> 08└─Checkout http://agar.io [agar.io]
[07:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Prey? - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:02] <exec> 08└─Why use Doom as the example instead of Prey? http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02So he's Native American? - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:03] <exec> 08└─So what? What difference should it make? I've never heard him referred to as Native American, just as I've never heard him referred to as white. Maybe the reason game historians don't bring it up is because it doesn't matter. Its the work that matters, not the race. Sounds crazy, I know.
[07:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:So he's Native American? - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:06] <exec> 08└─With a name like Romero I always thought he had Hispanic heritage. Which of course mattered not one bit to me when playing Doom.
[07:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Unlikely source for gaming material... - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:08] <exec> 08└─I would have thought that the Native American aspect would have gone to Oregon Trail. Anyhow, no... No monastery is likely to be of any help. I have been to Nepal and sought refuge (tranquility and education were my goals - my mind is not easily stilled, as if my rambling posts were not indicative o...
[07:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Original script ??? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:11] <exec> 08└─Who shot first ?!?!?!
[07:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Original script ??? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:13] <exec> 08└─NCommander shot first, you whorish heathen! The article is otherwise pretty light on details.
[07:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Original script ??? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:16] <exec> 08└─C-3PO. He was shooting Jar-Jar.
[07:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Original script ??? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:18] <exec> 08└─The cameraman
[07:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Original script ??? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:19] <exec> 08└─"I'll tell you one thing, right now," Brown gleefully points out. "Based on the script, I can tell you 100 per cent, Han shot first."
[07:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03ThG [4568] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Script? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:23] <exec> 08└─Please.. It's a rip-off of Dune... Want to know what results from a "real" script from George? Well, watch Star Wars I to III..
[07:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ghost [4467] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:Script? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:23] <exec> 08└─Yeah... What most people (outside of the business) don't realize is that George Lucas was married to Marcia Lucas from 1969 to 1983. So what? Well, she was a film editor ... and script doctor. After 83, you get shit like Howard the Duck because Marcia's not there to tell him it sucks. In the early d...
[07:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Script? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:25] <exec> 08└─In the early drafts of the Star Wars script, you can see some shit before Marcia cut it. Because it sucked. It ended up in a New Hope.
[07:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Script? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:27] <exec> 08└─Never heard that before. I'd always heard it was a rip off of Hidden Fortress. Whatever. Alien is supposedly a rip off of "Planet of the Vampires" and "It! The Terror from Beyond Space"... And I still like Alien just fine.
[07:02:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02And - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:30] <exec> 08└─And nothing of value was found.
[07:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:And - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:32] <exec> 08└─If an original Apple 1 can fetch $200k, I'm pretty sure an original script of Episode IV is worth a pretty penny. Value isn't always about usefulness or quality of the object.
[07:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Interesting) 02"Phone and CC# required" accounts - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:33] <exec> 08└─So this is why they all want you to sign up and give a phone number and CC. They are using the count of these "owned" by the company as a metric to raise investment/advertizing funds. “What does Apple bring to this?” Morris said. “Well, they’ve got $178 billion dollars in the bank. And they...
[07:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:"Phone and CC# required" accounts - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:35] <exec> 08└─In modern Western accounting, everything is considered a Liability, except: - Cash, tax credits, and short-term investments - Patents & license agreements - Customer databases Didn't see people, products or even owned buildings? Yup. We're fucked.
[07:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TWX [5124] (Score:2, Insightful) 02And this is why... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:37] <exec> 08└─...I always have doubts about services. This is why I don't like signing up for things like Netflix, or using e-Book readers that have DRM and a connection back to the "publisher", or music services like iTunes, or to even signing up for premium services from companies like Amazon and their Prime sh...
[07:02:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] 02Re:And this is why... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 346 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:40] <exec> 08└─> why would I want to add to that morass of crap voluntarily? As Bruce Schneier said, "We choose to do it because of the convenience, redundancy, automation, and shareability." But the system vendors have created is a basically feudal one, and they're the liege lords. https://www.schneier.com
[07:02:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Paypals response to recent news about this... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 86 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:42] <exec> 08└─https://stories.paypal-corp.com/home/an-update-on-how-we-contact-you [paypal-corp.com]
[07:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Paypal's page is now non-responsive - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:43] <exec> 08└─PayPal to users: Actually, you can opt out of robocalls [venturebeat.com] [Paypal's] link leads to a form that doesn’t specify the opt-out, but is simply a log-in to your account. There have been reports [techcrunch.com] from users that customer support isn’t helpful in providing these opt-outs...
[07:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Paypals response to recent news about this... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:45] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, that whole reply carefully excludes the topic of 3rd party contacts, that is, the part people were concerned about.
[07:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Paypals response to recent news about this... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:46] <exec> 08└─When the legal department says one thing, and customer service says another... Legal is always right. When the lawyers write that they reserve the right to call you with offers, the bean counters have already calculated with losing X% of customers, and decided that the income from this advertising w...
[07:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Oh my... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:48] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, oh wow [kym-cdn.com] Step by step, all your 'paranoid' friends don't seem so paranoid anymore, do they?
[07:02:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh my... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:50] <exec> 08└─So I'm not in the US but sometimes need to use PayPal (distro donations). Without me creating an account PayPal gather a phone number, etc anyway .. is it safe? Might they abuse this data in future? Should I stop donating to my favourite distro?
[07:02:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Interesting) 02Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:51] <exec> 08└─I own my own domain so I already use per-contact email addresses - amazon think's my email address is amazon@mydomain.com (I actually encrypt and timestamp the 'amazon' part so it isn't obvious what I'm doing) - in order to manage crap like this. I want to do the same for phones, but I haven't found...
[07:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:54] <exec> 08└─There are services like this. I actually use it for my phone for both home and mobile. I use Fongo (here in Canada) which is free. You pay for long distance outside major centres and for texts on mobile ($2/month). You can only be logged into one number at a time, but you can sign up for multiples....
[07:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:56] <exec> 08└─This would be awesome.
[07:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03akinliat [1898] (Score:2) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:57] <exec> 08└─The cheapest that I managed to find when I was looking to replace my phone service was Flowroute -- they offer a block of 20 DIDs for $14.95 US per month. Nothing fancy, though, just a basic SIP service without voicemail.
[07:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03gnuman [5013] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:59] <exec> 08└─I'd be willing to pay 2-3 dollars a year for a phone number plus any actual minutes used.
[07:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:01] <exec> 08└─> 2-3 dollars per MONTH + about 1500-3000 included minutes, yes. Per number? For a number that might get 1 call every 3 months? Not fit for purpose.
[07:03:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score:1) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:03] <exec> 08└─http://www.ipkall.com/
[07:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:1) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:04] <exec> 08└─My solution to this is to setup my own Asterisk "dialMenu" for unrecognized numbers. Those with callerID on the whitelist go directly to ringing. Those with callerID on the blacklist go to "triTone" to simulate a disconnected line...some autobots recognize that and remove the number from the lists....
[07:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Need Per Contact Phone Numbers - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:07] <exec> 08└─I also use per service email addresses and am surprised who sells my information (in some cases I suspect compromised systems or bad employees). As for the throwaway services I don't want to contact me, I just point them to the the FCC. I figure if they start robocalling the FCC complaint line it wi...
[07:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Frost [3313] (Score:1) 02Access Denied - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:08] <exec> 08└─You don't have permission to access "http://www.paypal.com/" on this server. Reference #18.c3070f17.1433783407.1b5a9357
[07:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03beernutz [4365] (Score:1) 02Re:Access Denied - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:11] <exec> 08└─You might have to use httpS with pp. I don't think they allow un-encrypted connections.
[07:03:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Frost [3313] (Score:1) 02Re:Access Denied - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:13] <exec> 08└─URL bar shows https:// while error message shows http:// .
[07:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Access Denied - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:14] <exec> 08└─Oh, they just bugged out on my attempt to close my account.
[07:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:1) 02US only - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:16] <exec> 08└─The BBC article specifies that this revision of terms and conditions applies to US customers. I guess I'm safe for the time being...
[07:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US only - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:17] <exec> 08└─Close your PP anyway account for good measure just in case.
[07:03:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:US only - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:20] <exec> 08└─Its moot for some of us. The funny thing is that ebay (as well as other bazaars like Craigslist) drove down the local meatspace prices for anything that could be found in a pawn shop. If your livelihood depends on paypal you're probably fucked, but if you're average joe occasional used knicknack buy...
[07:03:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Cant close account either - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:22] <exec> 08└─This is what happens when i try to close my account (fyi its in good standings there's no good reason for this) http://puu.sh [puu.sh] i think we should all just go directly to the call centre and cost them as much as possible in closing our accuonts as we can
[07:03:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Cant close account either - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:24] <exec> 08└─http://puu.sh???? [puu.sh] That domain is blocked by me... Why can't you use a normal site?
[07:03:25] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Cant close account either - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 3044 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:26] <exec> 08└─Once upon a time, I decided that I'd had enough getting burned as a customer on eBay. The latest incident was where I'd bid on a MicroSD card, won the auction for a very low price, and then the seller *somehow* cancelled the sale, which shouldn't even be possible for normal auctions. Anyway, I decid...
[07:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Cant close account either - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:28] <exec> 08└─Just mess up all contact info and abandon the account?
[07:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Learned my lesson on AOL - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 1761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:31] <exec> 08└─Think carefully, VERY carefully, before opening any sort of "account". Opening the door to some businesses, even if just a crack, is sometimes damned near impossible to close. The easiest way to deal with those businesses, by FAR, is to never give them any information AT ALL in the first place. Try...
[07:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Learned my lesson on AOL - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:32] <exec> 08└─It's hard to do some online business without a PayPal account. However the contact information given to PP could be setup to end in a phone and email /dev/null (with a content log). And I'll like you won't give telemarketers any connection at all. They will be terminated on sight.
[07:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Learned my lesson on AOL - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:34] <exec> 08└─That is why I will not even answer the phone if I do not recognize the incoming number. Like the poster above me, I need to set up an "asterisk" system so I can deliberately waste the time of telemarketers. Hopefully they will take their business solicitation elsewhere. Just giving a telemarketer th...
[07:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02hrm - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:36] <exec> 08└─trying to cancel my account, do not want, DO NOT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT
[07:03:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03No Respect [991] (Score:4, Insightful) 02They don't have my phone number - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:37] <exec> 08└─They used to have it. Until I moved. They also don't have any of my current bank acct info. They did, until I changed banks. I use PayPal for credit card transactions mainly where I don't want to hand over my CC number to yet another party who may or may not be trustworthy. Paypal keeps reminding ev...
[07:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Sure I have email and phone! - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:39] <exec> 08└─Oh sure PayProblem may spam my contact channels. Here they are: gofuckyourself-paypal@example.com +99812345678 I suppose one could setup two PayProblem accounts? such that when there's a difference in incoming email or texts. You know it's actual worthwhile info. And the phone number co...
[07:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02I wonder - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:40] <exec> 08└─I wonder if they've been clever enough to filter out "premium services" numbers from their autodiallers. If not, that would be hilarious as a protest action if enough people switched to those kinds of numbers...
[07:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:03:42] <exec> 08└─I learned this when I was a kid. Just because he added "on a computer" to this old idea doesn't make his speech any more harmful.
[07:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:44] <exec> 08└─Pre-internet, people did all kinds of violent fantasies on paper and talk about it, but none of it ever left the home. Unless there were a case of "unexplainable" violent rage. And still that is likely to be statistically insignificant enough to bother a policy change. The only thing that really cha...
[07:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:46] <exec> 08└─> Pre-internet, people did all kinds of violent fantasies on paper and talk about it, but none of it ever left the home. And if it did leave the house, like in a letter sent to the victim or stuck under her car's windshield wiper, it then became a problem. The guy made these posts explicitly public....
[07:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:48] <exec> 08└─And if it did leave the house, like in a letter sent to the victim or stuck under her car's windshield wiper, it then became a problem. The guy made these posts explicitly public.
[07:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:50] <exec> 08└─http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/14/opinion/rap-lyrics-on-trial.html [nytimes.com] http://www.theroot.com [theroot.com] http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com [criminaldef...
[07:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:52] <exec> 08└─I get what you're trying to say, but threats without the intent to follow through on can sure seem like serious threats to other people. Which can seriously affect people's ability to live their lives. Kids might not have learned that yet, but if an adult threatens someone, they should expect to be...
[07:03:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:54] <exec> 08└─> threats without the intent to follow through on can sure seem like serious threats to other people. This case isn't about intent to follow through, it is about intent to threaten. The SCOTUS ruled that intent to threaten is required, not whether the victim felt threatened. He would have been convi...
[07:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:56] <exec> 08└─His case is going to be retried and he'll be convicted again.
[07:03:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:03:58] <exec> 08└─Superior courts remand cases all the time. This is not double jeopardy because he was not acquitted, the conviction was just reversed.
[07:03:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:00] <exec> 08└─To be honest, this should never have even gone to court. If you haul this guy in, you can haul in ice-t (cop killer), slim shady(pretty much everything), wu-tang clan (ain't nuthin to fuck with). The list goes on and on, apparently this guys "crime" is not having enough money to speak his mind. Ever...
[07:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:02] <exec> 08└─To be honest, this should never have even gone to court. If you haul this guy in, you can haul in ice-t (cop killer), slim shady(pretty much everything), wu-tang clan (ain't nuthin to fuck with).
[07:04:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:05] <exec> 08└─None of those people made references to explicit people in their lyrics.
[07:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:06] <exec> 08└─Or self consistent. "Little agent lady" is not a specific person.
[07:04:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:08] <exec> 08└─> Or self consistent. "Little agent lady" is not a specific person. Given the context it absolutely was. People are more than just their names.
[07:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score:1) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:10] <exec> 08└─Its difficult to take seriously any threats which involve the constant use of Bugs-Bunny sound-effects in the background, as Eminem's music does. Of course the only exceptions to the rule are songs when he's whining about his mommy issues, which make him a lot less scary. Eminem may be rapping about...
[07:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:12] <exec> 08└─Plus Eminem and other rappers who are public figures and professional entertainers are very unlikely to be rapping about some crime that they actually intend to commit. Some nobody who works 9 to 5 in a normal job rapping about dismembering someone who they perceive as wronged them probably has a pr...
[07:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:15] <exec> 08└─Some nobody who works 9 to 5 in a normal job rapping about dismembering someone who they perceive as wronged them probably has a pretty good chance of intending to commit the act and/or the target of the rapping probably has a reasonable belief that they may be harmed.
[07:04:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:17] <exec> 08└─History and empirical evidence leads one to this. Of all the famous, professional rappers I can think of only Slick Rick who actually committed some crimes close to what he was rapping about. (Of course, there's Suge Knight, but he's a producer.) Cool C in the 90s killed a police officer, but he did...
[07:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:19] <exec> 08└─Riiiiiiight. Are you obtuse or a lawyer?
[07:04:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:21] <exec> 08└─> Orly? Clearly you are not an Eminem fan You are definitely correct. And if he had sent a copy of those lyrics to his wife after a big fight or after she got a restraining order on him then that would be pretty clear proof of intent to threaten her. But as far as I can tell that didn't happen.
[07:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Excellent case - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:23] <exec> 08└─I rejoiced when I read about this SCOTUS case. It applies some sense of reason to cases like this. Freedom of speech is so very important that the government should err on the side of caution. Just because a man raps about his fantasies of killing and disemboweling his ex-wife does not mean that he...
[07:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Excellent case - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:24] <exec> 08└─Just because a man raps about his fantasies of killing and disemboweling his ex-wife does not mean that he actually is meaning to do it, or that these are intended to be threats.
[07:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent case - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:27] <exec> 08└─I burned the pictures.
[07:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent case - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:29] <exec> 08└─Three pieces of advice: 1. Keep your diary on an encrypted partition of your hard drive. 2. Keep your diary on an encrypted partition of your hard drive. 3. Use a good password for the encrypted partition of your hard drive.
[07:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02careless law - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:30] <exec> 08└─i suppose the decision was correct ... for a world made up of robots. i think it points to a deeper problem in society. this guy needs help .. but is there a law for that? should there be one?
[07:04:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:careless law - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:32] <exec> 08└─This guy doesn't need anything. I can write all kinds of twisted stuff, and it's meaningless. It is part of our abilities as humans, to snuff that is to be a robot, not the other way around.
[07:04:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:34] <exec> 08└─How does the multi-resistant bacteria get out of the intestines and attack the host body?
[07:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:36] <exec> 08└─Probably the same was that E. Coli gets into the food system--lax hygiene.
[07:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:38] <exec> 08└─It's usually the bacteria that gets in your blood stream that kills or maims. And the intestines usually keep bacterias out of the rest of the body. Which also why stabbing in that region may be fatal.. sepsis.
[07:04:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jeremiah Cornelius [2785] (Score:2) 02Re:How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:39] <exec> 08└─You had me at "Rectal Swab"...
[07:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:41] <exec> 08└─That isn't a common infectious vector.
[07:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:How does the bacteria break free? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:42] <exec> 08└─either is "Hello" but it worked for Tom Cruise.
[07:04:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Kinda spoils it a bit - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:44] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGjky5U64LM [youtube.com]
[07:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Stool samples? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:46] <exec> 08└─Why rectal swabs? Wouldn't stool samples contain the same gut flora, less invasive and cheaper too?
[07:04:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Stool samples? - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:47] <exec> 08└─Why rectal swabs?
[07:04:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03captnjohnny1618 [5301] (Score:1) 02Is that title... - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:49] <exec> 08└─Is "Beach Bums" hilarious or just kinda unfortunate....? I can't decide. Either way, I applaud the pun. ;-)
[07:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"Bums" - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:50] <exec> 08└─It appears you are somewhere where American English isn't the norm. Where you folks would say "bums", here, we say "butts". In the USA, the word "bum" simply means "vagrant". Many decades ago, there was even a sitcom (that lasted a few weeks) called The San Pedro Beach Bums. [wikipedia.org] -- gewg_
[07:04:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 769 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:53] <exec> 08└─The ebook Manna [marshallbrain.com] seems quite relevant so read it if you haven't. From our current point in time I see two possible futures, one where we pretend everyone has to "work for a living" or another where people can pursue to better themselves and let automation provide what we need. Thi...
[07:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:55] <exec> 08└─This would be a departure from concentrated power via wealth and/or authority
[07:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1060 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking. We've been thoroughly conditioned to buy what we need, and it has made us dependent. We must have an income, and from that arises much of the abusive hold employers have over people. New technology could enable us to free ourselves from this corpo...
[07:04:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03kaszz [4211] 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 574 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:04:59] <exec> 08└─The need for a salary mostly comes from these things: * Housing * Food * Health care If you can cover this without being employed. You have essentially beat the system. Farmers a few hundred years ago were in essence self sufficient. But when they got sick or got raided they were in trouble...
[07:05:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:00] <exec> 08└─You read my mind, about the Industrial Revolution. Farmers used to be pretty self sufficient, even making their own clothes. It was called homespun. Don't forget the need for transportation. Cars are a huge expense for the typical family.
[07:05:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:03] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the key to the future is decentralized industrial production?
[07:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:05] <exec> 08└─Go show me how you can build a CPU with billions of transistors with decentralized industrial production. A CPU is built and assembled in many places, but it's more of interdependent than decentralized. If "decentralized industrial production" is key to the future, it's more likely the key to a dyst...
[07:05:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 73 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:07] <exec> 08└─Farmers used to be pretty self sufficient, even making their own clothes.
[07:05:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03SubiculumHammer [5191] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:09] <exec> 08└─What we were speaking of was not reality but an idealized example that it takes fairly little to be (relatively) self-sufficient and healthy...but that in that system it does not take much of an external disturbance (i.e. drought, bankers, raiders, a broken ankle) to take that (relative) self-suffic...
[07:05:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:10] <exec> 08└─It's unwise to over-romanticize the past. Or be ignorant of it and be modded informative. Start here: The Homestead Acts [wikipedia.org] Most farmers in the US neither stole land from Indians (land ownership was an alien concept to them) nor were they indebted to banks. They got the land for free to...
[07:05:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:12] <exec> 08└─Ignorance does not mean that it was not stealing. If I have unknowingly left my wallet on the trunk lid and you come along and take it then you have still stolen. Minimizing what you did to my people (and assuming we were all without property considerations) is asinine at best.
[07:05:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:13] <exec> 08└─I should specify a generic you and not you personally. You did not do shit.
[07:05:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:15] <exec> 08└─The only problem is we live in a world where everything and everyone is under control by some entity. There is no land that you can legally live on without paying taxes or rent. I can't go into a park and set up a small farm. Same for private land. I can be arrested and charged with trespass. Every...
[07:05:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:17] <exec> 08└─There's not much free land but there is cheap land.
[07:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:18] <exec> 08└─That's why it won't happen. Enough people have too much to lose if it does turn into a Star-Trek-like society that's so prosperous nobody needs to pay for anything to ever allow that kind of material prosperity.
[07:05:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"a Star-Trek-like society" - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:20] <exec> 08└─Not quite yet, but how about a village that has abolished its police force and which has essentially no unemployment? It's in the autonomous region of Andalusia in Spain and is called Marinaleda. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [jacobinmag.com] Do I really need to mention that the means to accomplish...
[07:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:22] <exec> 08└─I don't care how small the pie becomes, I just want the biggest slice
[07:05:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:23] <exec> 08└─people will still be shitty to other people
[07:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:26] <exec> 08└─I don't think so: lack of economic burden != boredom. And idle hands make for art, poetry, music, stories, philosophy and science.
[07:05:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:27] <exec> 08└─Didn't you learn anything from school bullies? Not all people with idle time are designed in way to do something useful. Instead the start gangs and rob other people etc.
[07:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:30] <exec> 08└─Yeah so get the cops to arrest them. What's the difference? You think there will be more people robbing other people? Maybe just give them PCs and some MMOs/online games and they can go rob/kill each other in games.
[07:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah there's so much art and poetry coming out of high welfare areas in the US right now. No rioting and looting at all.
[07:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Blacks and whites are different. - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:34] <exec> 08└─Blacks and whites are different. So are women and men. White men produce art, programs, science, etc when unemployed.
[07:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Red Dwarf - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:36] <exec> 08└─What amazes me about this scenario is that folks have overlooked/forgotten the need for humans like Lister and Rimmer. [wikipedia.org] Lister [...] spent his time performing tasks too menial for the skutters
[07:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:38] <exec> 08└─Of course, the protagonist in Manna only got into the good society because he happened to have a rich uncle who bought his way in early on. People who are already rich are going to do just fine. Just like always...
[07:05:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:1) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:40] <exec> 08└─Not really; his dad brought in for $1000. While this is somewhat a lot of money it really isn't in the scheme of things.
[07:05:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:41] <exec> 08└─But he did buy the right $1000 lottery ticket. How many other utopian commune startups failed alongside this one that succeeded? Also, I would have trouble with my spine having an off-switch.
[07:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:43] <exec> 08└─but the ability of few to control many will be greatly weakened
[07:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:44] <exec> 08└─"people will still be shitty to other people but the ability of few to control many will be greatly weakened." THIS. That is the main problem with "This would be a departure from concentrated power via wealth and/or authority to a system that can being completely decentralized and a single person be...
[07:05:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:46] <exec> 08└─seriously. do you think mankind sprang forth from zeus' head fully formed into a society with centralized governing powers? hell no. ape men roamed freely - killing, eating, and fucking at will. one ape man said to another "hey, if we, like team-up, we are more likely to be successful in our killing...
[07:05:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:3, Interesting) 02But... productivity - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:48] <exec> 08└─Here in UK productivity has been flat for many years. Which kinda defeats the argument. http://www.bankofengland.co.uk [bankofengland.co.uk]
[07:05:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gravis [4596] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:But... productivity - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:50] <exec> 08└─Here in UK productivity has been flat for many years.
[07:05:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:But... productivity - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:51] <exec> 08└─Nah, choose someone a long way away, with much less resources. A few places in Africa, we already tried Afghanistan for the umpteenth time...
[07:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But... productivity - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:53] <exec> 08└─maybe you brits need to crack the whip a little harder on those lazy, subservient robots?
[07:05:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 4014 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:05:55] <exec> 08└─Jobs come from energy. More energy means more jobs. Less energy means less jobs. Likewise money comes from energy comes from a hole in the ground that hopefully isn't empty. Once that hole in the ground is empty, that means no energy which means no money. (plus or minus bubbles). If someone tries to...
[07:05:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:57] <exec> 08└─That's just a little too cheerful for a Monday. Skipping the nuclear power option? I think the NIMBYs will get over themselves when electricity is topping $1/kwh and they can't afford their home heating and cooling anymore.
[07:05:59] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1994 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:05:59] <exec> 08└─The problem is trajectory. Its not that a KWh will cost $1. The problem will be it takes 20 yrs to build a plant under BAU and even in some dictatorial FDR style TVA it would probably be over 5 years for some of the industrial fabrication. Its a big project... So electricity starts increasing and ci...
[07:06:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 38 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:01] <exec> 08└─energy comes from a hole in the ground
[07:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:04] <exec> 08└─Energy makes the economy. Without that it will stall.
[07:06:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:05] <exec> 08└─But it's also "made" by: Land, raw materials, innovation, labor(you can call this energy if you're being reductionist), demand, trade, natural resources, water, infrastructure, and a fuck ton more. Any one-dimensional analysis of a system as complex as the world economy is a pointless exercise in eg...
[07:06:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:08] <exec> 08└─One has to focus on the resource that is the most limiting and thus the most relevant and that can't be replaced by something else. Energy can be used to get other resources in exchange in many cases. The other factors you mention are important but perhaps not the ones that will brake the economy: ...
[07:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:10] <exec> 08└─And here you go just plain being wrong. For example, you just dismiss a couple things as "human concepts". Hey doofus. We're humans. You and me. This economy we interact with, it's a human concept too. Land isn't as widely available as you think it is, and variations in details of land affect its ut...
[07:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:12] <exec> 08└─Human concepts depend on natural resources to make them happen. It's a dependency graph in essence. If you got energy you may mine or extract phosphorus to make food using land and sunlight (energy) to make something to eat and trade with and so on.
[07:06:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:14] <exec> 08└─Oh, so you're really just going to push this because, hell, "matter's just a form of energy" or some level of physical abstraction that completely obviates the idea of an "economy" in the first place. Well, enjoy. I'm not going to pursue this conversation for the next 10 replies it takes to get to t...
[07:06:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 4130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:15] <exec> 08└─Some minor corrections * Land - once its polluted, its not as useful for growing. And topsoil is a more or less non-renewable (on human time scales) resource, and once its gone... * Raw materials - The stuff thats cheapest / lowest energy to extract gets extracted first. That means the energy cost f...
[07:06:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:17] <exec> 08└─When we finally have the impetus to get off this rock we will no longer have the resources to do so.
[07:06:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:19] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, a not insignificant area of land is getting poisoned w/ salt by being irrigated by insufficiently desalinated water.
[07:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:20] <exec> 08└─Trade - Human concept
[07:06:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:22] <exec> 08└─You can't make money, and in long term, jobs, with trade as the backbone of a civilization. Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. Its a FIRE sector zero-sum or worse scheme. Its less than zero sum because inevitably end up burning coal to make electricity to run the trading system, or burn diesel tr...
[07:06:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2, Flamebait) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:24] <exec> 08└─Oh, thanks. That's a great example of a different one dimensional analysis. It might even have a second dimension.
[07:06:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:25] <exec> 08└─You can't make money, and in long term, jobs, with trade as the backbone of a civilization.
[07:06:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:27] <exec> 08└─The fundamental fact of trade is that it is entered into willingly
[07:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:29] <exec> 08└─What is mercantilism, imperialism, slave labor sweatshops, "work will set you free". Thats what real trade looks like.
[07:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:32] <exec> 08└─For example, sweatshops are portrayed as bad, but what else was that worker going to do? Starve?
[07:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:33] <exec> 08└─And, nobody wants to chime in with, "Thexalon's broad assertion is wrong because I can redirect the conversation into the tiny point I want to make!!!!11" Thank you, Thexalon, for proving that the people arguing minutia against VLM's broad assertions can't even do that correctly.
[07:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:36] <exec> 08└─Lots of those who are currently employed in sweatshops were from families that were until recently farmers. The same globalization that brought in the factories also brought in gobs of super-cheap food from faraway places. So what ended up happening was that the farmers' formerly successful business...
[07:06:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:37] <exec> 08└─"Thexalon's broad assertion is wrong because I can redirect the conversation into the tiny point I want to make!!!!11"
[07:06:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:39] <exec> 08└─Materials, information, energy, and computation capacity, all in various forms.
[07:06:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 1804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:40] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, I've come across one claim that at $200/bbl, it becomes economically feasible to use fuel-air liquefaction technologies to make long-chain hydrocarbons out of warm, moist air using solar energy --- the guy didn't address the problem of catalysts (every such reaction I've seen uses rar...
[07:06:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Informative) 02Food comes from phosphorus - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:42] <exec> 08└─According to the US Geological Survey (USGS), about 50 percent of the global phosphorus reserves are in the Arab nations. Large deposits of apatite are located in China, Russia, Morocco, Florida, Idaho, Tennessee, Utah, and elsewhere. Recent reports suggest that production of phosphorus may have pea...
[07:06:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:Food comes from phosphorus - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:44] <exec> 08└─>Perhaps educating 3rd/2nd world women and giving them jobs may drive down birth rates? So men can be miserable and sit in jail for trying to marry little girls (which is their right by religion and culture) Fuck you.
[07:06:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:45] <exec> 08└─but the Germans were using this process during Word War II
[07:06:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:47] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I'd thought the number was optimistic and involved some hand-waving.
[07:06:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:49] <exec> 08└─Talks most, says least.
[07:06:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:50] <exec> 08└─Good news everyone! [nextbigfuture.com]
[07:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:52] <exec> 08└─The word is "fewer", not "less".
[07:06:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:54] <exec> 08└─energy comes from a hole in the ground that hopefully isn't empty
[07:06:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:56] <exec> 08└─For a very short amount of time you can generate a financial bubble, everyone loses in a bubble except the rich guys who ran it, who happen to be in charge, which is why since 2000 or so the economy has been solely based on bubble formation and popping rather than industrial or even post-industrial....
[07:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:06:57] <exec> 08└─For your reading pleasure T.R.O.Y. [utopianwc.com] - the winner in the "Utopian World Championship" 2001. Pay attention to the "Economic organization" section - my interpretation: discard the proposed details (interesting still) and just realize can't get a balanced currency with the single metrics...
[07:06:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02users exist to provide a test load - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:06:59] <exec> 08└─Guinea my Pig and call me Cavy.
[07:07:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Meta Blog Blog Blog - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:01] <exec> 08└─While N~Commander is blogging with crayon about the joys of toy construction by fitting Lego blocks together, who's finding the time to do the actual work?
[07:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Meta Blog Blog Blog - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:02] <exec> 08└─While N~Commander is blogging with crayon about the joys of toy construction by fitting Lego blocks together, who's finding the time to do the actual work?
[07:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03paulej72 [58] (Score:4, Informative) 02Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 1229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:04] <exec> 08└─One other lead we had with corruption is that the mod_perl memory gets corrupted. As part of the optimization rehash saves some vars into the working memory of the Apache thread. Since there are several Apache threads running at any given moment it is possible to cycle through ones that have a bad l...
[07:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:05] <exec> 08└─Note I am no expert in server setups, but lowering MaxRequestsPerChild to 10000 seems quite reasonable to me. At the moment, when I load this page, my browser (Firefox) sends 18 requests (of which, btw, 17 result in a 304 not changed - very nice job there!), so killing and starting a new thread ever...
[07:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:07] <exec> 08└─If it helps, I see the 500 error occasionally. It happens when I am trying to moderate. Maybe once a day. When I retry things work (possibly because I am routed to a different server or Apache instance. Lower that 10,000 even more. Maybe 2,000 to 3,000 or so. Apache will not be spawning new children...
[07:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:09] <exec> 08└─Has it happened since this article was posted? I've been keeping an eye on error_log since I woke up and haven't seen any of the taletell signs of data corruption we were seeing.
[07:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:10] <exec> 08└─Yes, error_log will show the 500 error if it happens. I have not seen the 500 error today.
[07:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:12] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I think we found the cause of our corruption issue. Now we need to figure out why it is. My guess the problem is in Cache::Memcached::Fast, and not something we did as I think its unlikely the issue is with memcached itself.
[07:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:13] <exec> 08└─Here is a guess: are you trying to large cache items? Perhaps you need to change the default from 1M to something more (using the -I [that is an uppercase "i"]).
[07:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:15] <exec> 08└─We didn't change the configuration on memcached or any of the caching layer code on the upgrade. Generally what it does is a bunch of core functions such as getStory, getComments, or getUser tries to pull the data from memcache. If its not there, it runs a SELECT on the database to get it dynamicall...
[07:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Memcache and corruption - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:17] <exec> 08└─Good work guys! The nice thing about being able to get away without memcached is that there's pretty much no downside to it. If it really isn't giving a noticeable boost, it might be best to just stick with a simpler configuration. If the bugs don't go away - you've now got a simpler system to debug...
[07:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Buggy code - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:18] <exec> 08└─Buggy code can be thought of as being an employment guarantee for programmers. The more bugs there are, the more programmers are needed to stomp them out. And since most bug fixes create other bugs, we have job security!
[07:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I wonder if this issue is related? - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:20] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7830&cid=193482 [soylentnews.org] (OK The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration...) Apologies for the silly language of the AC in question...
[07:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02nginx home roll - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:21] <exec> 08└─is the code for the new frontend proxy available to browse?
[07:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:3, Touché) 02Character or font bug? - 06Site Repair Work: Rehash 15.05.3 - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:23] <exec> 08└─I get this in my inbox. The "Touché" becomes "TouchÃ©" where the "e" gets replaced by an "A" with a tilde above it and a "(c)" copyright sign after that. Like this: "Re:How does the bacteria break free?, posted to Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing, has been moderated Touch...
[07:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02America does Not need Science. - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:25] <exec> 08└─Science is not necessary to wage a HOLY JIHAD against ISLAM. The only thing Americans need to know is how to OBEY.
[07:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Informative) 02Boring - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:26] <exec> 08└─BBC News went with the much more interesting angle of "look at all these robots falling over." The best one was the one that fell over and then flopped about like a dead fish.
[07:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Making fun of robots is Boring - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:28] <exec> 08└─We need to bring back slavery, then we know for sure our stupid property is suffering when it falls over. Abolition was a mistake. Robots are a dead end. Bring back Slavery, for the Future!
[07:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02ever sucked the tip of your penis? - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:30] <exec> 08└─or maybe more? sure, it hurts to stretch that far but is it worth it?
[07:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:ever sucked the tip of your penis? - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:31] <exec> 08└─Not worth it. To your own tongue, your own cum has no flavor. Better to suck off another man's penis, because even a slight variation in semen chemistry is delicious.
[07:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Glimpse without sacrificing your firstborn to NYT - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:33] <exec> 08└─Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize [usnewsdaily.net] 07ROBOT1-SUB-master675.jpg [nyt.com] (crappy javascript..) Team KAIST | DRC Finals [theroboticschallenge.org] (lots of interesting pictures) TeamKAIST DRCHubo2 main.png [theroboticschallenge.org] KAIST's DRC-HUBO Egress -Day1...
[07:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Headline scanning - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:34] <exec> 08└─I was expecting a story about a Korean Robot had broken in to a bank and walked off with $2 million.
[07:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Guess who wins - 06Korean Robot Makers Walk Off With $2 Million Prize - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:36] <exec> 08└─Someone thinks they 'won' something and they feel better about themselves for winning. Meanwhile, many many people worked on something similar, with better ideas, better use of technology, invented new methods and so on. And the NSA and affiliates stole all those detailed plans and passed them to th...
[07:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02There ought to be a Law! - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:38] <exec> 08└─Firstly, at least three persons shall be employed to drive or conduct such locomotive, and if more than two waggons or carriages he attached thereto, an additional person shall be employed, who shall take charge of such waggons or carriages : Secondly, one of such persons, while any locomotive is in...
[07:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:There ought to be a Law! - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:39] <exec> 08└─[citation] [wikipedia.org]. Pennsylvania version would require all motorists piloting their "horseless carriages", upon chance encounters with cattle or livestock to (1) immediately stop the vehicle, (2) "immediately and as rapidly as possible... disassemble the automobile," and (3) "conceal the var...
[07:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02"None of these accidents were caused by..." - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:41] <exec> 08└─"None of these accidents were caused by a fault with the car." That's right. All of them were.
[07:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Human drivers are the Problem - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:42] <exec> 08└─We need to get them out of the driver's seat. Then they will pay us to do their driving for them.
[07:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Re:Human drivers are the Problem - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:44] <exec> 08└─The problem is the transition period, like it was suggested by some prankster that the UK should switch to right side traffic like the rest of the world but could do so with a transition period where only heavy traffic would switch the first week...
[07:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The problem is the transition period, - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:46] <exec> 08└─Let's SWITCH self driving CARS to IPv6!
[07:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:The problem is the transition period, - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:47] <exec> 08└─Let's SWITCH self driving CARS to IPv6!
[07:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:"None of these accidents were caused by..." - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:49] <exec> 08└─How do you figure? In my country, if I rear-end the car in front of me (assuming it did not pull out in front of me) then the responsibility of the accident is mine. It's quite simple: I was either following too closely, driving too fast (which is the same thing), or I wasn't paying sufficient atten...
[07:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"None of these accidents were caused by..." - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:50] <exec> 08└─Well, if the robot breaks very sharply it might cause an accident. Usually the party doing the rearing however will be liable. This does not stop dozens of cars regularly taking part if destruction derby style clusterfucks that block highways potentially for hours, usually at rush hour.
[07:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"None of these accidents were caused by..." - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:52] <exec> 08└─>Well, if the robot breaks very sharply it might cause an accident. If the robot breaks, then it was at fault. The other driver must brake to avoid hitting the broken robot.
[07:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:"None of these accidents were caused by..." - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:55] <exec> 08└─Again, that's following too close. You are supposed to leave enough gap that even if the car in front suddenly brakes at it's maximum deceleration suddenly, you have enough time to react and come to a stop.
[07:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03zafiro17 [234] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Three cheers for transparency - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 1072 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:57] <exec> 08└─Think what you will about the usefulness of the project. Google should at least get credit for attempting bold things, and for conducting science in a way that seems - to this casual observer at least - relatively transparent. There are scientists out there doing the same thing, but not all of them,...
[07:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Three cheers for transparency - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 986 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:59] <exec> 08└─I am behind Google on this one. I am not saying I would freely give up anyone's right to steer his own car any more than I would argue that people can't shift gears when they want to. I drive a manual car, but I had good reason for wanting a manual car. When I bought it, I lived in mountainous terra...
[07:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:00] <exec> 08└─If you get in an accident and contact a shyster lawyer, they file a suit against the other driver, their employer (f they were driving on the job or even driving to work in a work vehicle), the city, and whatever company last worked on the road where the accident occurred, and anyone else even tange...
[07:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:02] <exec> 08└─I would think a Google car would be able to dump megabytes of images and data detailing exactly what happened and its response to it. My guess is ( barring some bad computer programming ) its going to be hard as hell to nail it on Google. I guess you have seen those saws they test by sticking a fran...
[07:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:04] <exec> 08└─Any actual trial would be based on subjective decisions relative to tests prescribed by case law for determining if the defendant took appropriate measures to prevent the accident. My understanding is that these do reflect cost-to-benefit analysis on a subjective basis. The trial result depends on t...
[07:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:1) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:05] <exec> 08└─As a general rule, "trial by jury" involves the use af a jury: 12 people probably with very limited grasp of any relevant concept and a deep wish to be elsewhere. You may get justice, or anything else could happen. Google needs to invent serious money in taking down "lawyers are us" and all similar...
[07:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:07] <exec> 08└─If Google becomes known as an easy mark, it will cost them a lot more then being known as someone who will fight to the last penny, unless you have a prima facie case.
[07:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:2) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:08] <exec> 08└─Existing situations with similar dynamics haven't gone towards a deterrence based equilibrium. What makes Google different? Patent disputes may be a situation where you could say the equilibrium matches your prediction of aggressive and costly defense to avoid shakedowns. That situation is different...
[07:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Liability - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:10] <exec> 08└─Worse than taunting, I can see people intentionally causing accidents and fucking over self driving cars. Aside from the stuff weather and nature throws at cars all time, intentional human malice is a huge problem. I can't wait for the day when I see criminals fuck over cops by throwing shit out the...
[07:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:4, Insightful) 02No fault insurance - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 837 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:12] <exec> 08└─This is what no fault insurance is for. There may need to be some tweaks to make it work for autonomous vehicles, but basically: if you get in an accident, your insurance pays your costs and the other person's insurance pays their costs. Civil "get rich quick" suits files by shyster lawyers? That's...
[07:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:2) 02Manual mode seems heavily-used - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:14] <exec> 08└─According to their report, their cars have driven a bit over a million miles in autonomous mode, and nearly 800K in manual mode. That manual-mode number seems rather high. If that's a realistic representation of how often you'll have to engage manual mode in regular driving, that means the autonomou...
[07:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Manual mode seems heavily-used - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:15] <exec> 08└─Perhaps it was where the 'operator' got annoyed at it driving so cautiously and wanted to speed a bit, pass one of those annoying people who tap their brakes constantly, or continually change speeds randomly on an open highway. For future automate vehicles I propose that they let the car do the driv...
[07:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02That about said it all... - 06Google to Publish Details of All its Self-Driving Accidents - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:17] <exec> 08└─intentional human malice is a huge problem
[07:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:systemd is a bigger concern. - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:19] <exec> 08└─Funny you should mention this, I'm trying to resolve a problem on an older laptop with some flaky hardware and systemd is making it exceedingly difficult. Part of it is inexperience, and part is systemd. Seriously, what the fuck were people thinking?
[07:08:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 642 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:20] <exec> 08└─this is not about people being confused about software licenses, this is about libre software being put in direct competition with proprietary software. i'm all about libre software but sometimes libre software doesn't measure up to the capabilities or design of proprietary software. if this was rea...
[07:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:22] <exec> 08└─If complete freedom includes the ability to take away said freedom then yes MIT/BSD licensing is right up that alley. The GPL is about ensuring that you give others the same freedom that you received. In the strict sense that is a restriction and it lowers the overall freedom provided. However in th...
[07:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02dumb question - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:23] <exec> 08└─does either the GPL or the BSD licence specify that derivative code has to go out on the same terms, or do one or both of them allow you to distribute derivative code on a different licence? Example: I take a piece of GPL code, modify it and distribute the modified code under the BSD licence, is thi...
[07:08:24] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:dumb question - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 1058 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:25] <exec> 08└─No. You can take a piece of MIT/BSD software, use it in your project, and GPL the combination -- for that matter, you could even decide to go closed source with the MIT/BSD stuff you cribbed, all you have to do is indicate that you used some BSD/MIT code, acknowledge who you got it from, and referen...
[07:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:dumb question - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:27] <exec> 08└─because the MIT/BSD licenses allow you to do things with the software (e.g. make it proprietary closed source) that the GPL forbids. Technical point, the GPL doesn't forbid anything. Neither does the BSD or MIT licenses. They simply allow differing amounts of stuff.
[07:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:29] <exec> 08└─anarchy is the form of government (or lack thereof).
[07:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:31] <exec> 08└─Using GPL is encroaching on our rights to encroach on yours
[07:08:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 1147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:32] <exec> 08└─Correction: Using GPL is limiting your right to close source free software, to protect everyone's rights. I take issue with "encroach" because if an author wants to release software under the GPL, that is wholly his or her right to do so. The GPL doesn't encroach on that author's rights in any way -...
[07:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:34] <exec> 08└─Furthermore, in many jurisdictions the default copyright automatically granted upon writing the code is far more restrictive than the GPL. The GPL restores rights that are taken away by copyright. It doesn't restore *all* those rights, but it is still copyright laws that are limiting the rights, not...
[07:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:35] <exec> 08└─Forcing modifications to be shared under a license that allows others to reshare them doesn't restrict your freedom to redistribute the content. While the GPL does require source code to be released, other than that it should be noted that freedom doesn't come from government. Your desire to take so...
[07:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 1198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:38] <exec> 08└─It seems more that it's about being able to make an informed decision. If I use a piece of open source software that is a bit rough around the edges, then I'm suffering pain now, but with the potential benefit of being able to fix it if it matters that much to me. If I use a piece of proprietary sof...
[07:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:not about confusion - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:39] <exec> 08└─The software *could* be in separate repositories. That's the traditional solution for Debian descendant systems. If it is, then I don't see the problem. If it isn't...that's unreasonably bad. Separate repositories allows one to decide which categories of software one will install. Even if you have a...
[07:08:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Dropped Ubuntu before Unity hit the streets - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 801 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:41] <exec> 08└─I rather liked Ubuntu until their decisions about Unity. When they decided to go with a Metro desktop, it was clear to me that Ubuntu wasn't going in a direction that I wanted to go. Yeah, there were other things that bothered me about Canonical, but until Unity they were all little things. Sorry to...
[07:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Dropped Ubuntu before Unity hit the streets - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:44] <exec> 08└─You dropped it just in time. Now, this dangerous mix of software might explode and you'd end Tsarnaev'd (especially if you run away).
[07:08:45] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Ubuntu is a goddamn wasteland - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:46] <exec> 08└─First it spies on you https://fixubuntu.com [fixubuntu.com] and now it peddles proprietary software to you... Fortunately there are other distros that show more respect for you.
[07:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re your link - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:47] <exec> 08└─I love the disclaimer: Disclaimer: In case you are either 1) a complete idiot; or 2) a lawyer; or 3) both, please be aware that this site is not affiliated with or approved by Canonical Limited. This site criticizes Canonical for certain privacy-invading features of Ubuntu and teaches users how to f...
[07:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Re your link - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:49] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, that disclaimer is not entirely a joke: they added it in response [techdirt.com] to getting a cease-and-desist letter from Canonical. Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, apparently has decided to act like a trademark bully. The maker of a fairly popular version of Linux sent a cease...
[07:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Re your link - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:51] <exec> 08└─Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, apparently has decided to act like a trademark bully. Ubuntu: a quality that includes the essential human virtues; compassion and humanity.
[07:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:3, Insightful) 02No Danger! - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:53] <exec> 08└─The only Danger is the Kleenex Danger! If you put your code out there in a kinda "metrosexual, kinda opensource, downwith that, baby" way, guess what, you are free software and I will copy you until the sun comes up and there is nothing you can do but say "thanks for the memories". How often do we h...
[07:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2, Flamebait) 02confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:56] <exec> 08└─If I were to write a program in C under Linux using GCC would I be able to sell binaries and not give out the source?
[07:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:58] <exec> 08└─If I were to write a program in C under Linux using GCC would I be able to sell binaries and not give out the source?
[07:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:00] <exec> 08└─why would you go anywhere near that crapfest that is Steam?? Particularly with that malware magnet Source.
[07:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:01] <exec> 08└─Every serious developer will use a better compiler.
[07:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:04] <exec> 08└─Lots of serious developers use GCC. How is it that you've determined that there are no "serious" developers who use it?
[07:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:1, Disagree) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:05] <exec> 08└─No [gnu.org]. Is the short answer. You must distribute the source whether or not you also distribute the binary.
[07:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:08] <exec> 08└─Can I release a modified version of a GPL-covered program in binary form only? (#ModifiedJustBinary) No. The whole point of the GPL is that all modified versions must be free software—which means, in particular, that the source code of the modified version is available to the users.
[07:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03TLA [5128] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:09] <exec> 08└─my bad, it was Dark O'Clock and I was misreading due exhaustion.
[07:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:12] <exec> 08└─Wrong. The GCC license include an explicit run-time exemption. You are free to distribute the run-time components of GCC (any code that the compiler generates that inserts code that is part of the compiler, and anything like the softfloat emulation routines) in a binary under any license. The page y...
[07:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:14] <exec> 08└─Well first, C is just a language so it's use neither here nor there with respect to the GPL. Your own C code can be closed, open, or whatever you choose. As for GCC, it's not quite so cut and dried as you make it sound: http://www.sitepoint.com [sitepoint.com] (nice link fr...
[07:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Shimitar [4208] (Score:1) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:16] <exec> 08└─The Short Answer: YES The Not So Short Answer: Let's not get confused. The GPL license applies to software you either include in your own or modify, it does not apply to by-products of it's usage. So, yes, you can use the GCC compiler (which is GPLv3) to produce proprietary, closed-source software y...
[07:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:19] <exec> 08└─Think of it, it would be quite useless to have a GIMP which forces you to release ANY photo or draw you make as creative-commons or GPL, right? Likewhise, think a Calligra/KOffice word which forces you to release as GPL any book or article you write... Why should it be different for compiler output?
[07:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:21] <exec> 08└─How is this flaimbait? Nice modding.
[07:09:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 2254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:23] <exec> 08└─Sorry I couldn't reply earlier, so I modded it flamebait, because I believe that's what it truly is. It's an impertinent question and disingenuous. In recent months and years these discussion forums seem to have been over-run by anti-GPL FUD and pro-BSD platitudes. Call it a conspiracy theory, but i...
[07:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:25] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry also. Sorry I asked the question and got treated like an asshole. No I'm not sorry. Fuck you.
[07:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:27] <exec> 08└─Sorry if I offended you. I am very frustrated with the way things are going.
[07:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score:2) 02Re:confused - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:28] <exec> 08└─I accept your apology. I am sorry if if I offended you, and also for my ignorance.
[07:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:30] <exec> 08└─Debian was the reason I used Ubuntu. Slackware was the reason I used Debian. For now Linux Mint is OK but there are times when I really want to use google for my search engine; not being able to set it in the browser gets on my nerves.
[07:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:33] <exec> 08└─so what was your reason for using Kuro5hin?
[07:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02Its web design was more appealing than /.s - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:35] <exec> 08└─Filter error: Comment too short
[07:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:37] <exec> 08└─I really want to use google for my search engine
[07:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mmcmonster [401] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:39] <exec> 08└─Google isn't the default search engine on Linux Mint, but it's easy to change the search engine. :-) So easy that I forgot how I did it. :-(
[07:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:42] <exec> 08└─It tells you how. on the page about search engines, as it also explains to you why it isn't there by default. It's about 4 clicks...
[07:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Ubuntu is the reason I use Linux Mint - 06Ubuntu Software Center is Mixing Proprietary and Free Software in a Dangerous Way - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:45] <exec> 08└─Do you remember the olden days when you visited http://www.google.com [google.com] and typed in there - before you had searches direct from your browser?
[07:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:Hugh's edited submission has no links - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:48] <exec> 08└─No - I tried to merge the HP story into the first, and obviously didn't get the links right! As you know - it's always my fault. A big thanks to Takyon for fixing them for me. Sorry.
[07:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:Raise your hand - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:50] <exec> 08└─Indeed, that's exactly what I was going for.
[07:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:51] <exec> 08└─[Ed note: The Hugh Pickens submission somehow lost its formatting and links when the story submissions were merged. We failed to notice that before the story went live. The story has been updated and we apologize for the error.]
[07:09:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02Re:Support status (point 3) - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 74 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:53] <exec> 08└─I think they need a big culture change to start taking security seriously.
[07:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Support status (point 3) - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:54] <exec> 08└─Which worked out so well for IBM and Microsoft....
[07:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Support status (point 3) - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:56] <exec> 08└─IBM is a perfect example, as they are also a 'blind fanboy' driven company, although with a very different market segment. Without the "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" crowd they would have been out of business 20 years ago.
[07:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Patch tuesday - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:57] <exec> 08└─I find it hard to believe that the majority of Windows users are being pwned by fresh exploits in the one month interval between Patch Tuesdays. At a guess, 95% of infections are from old exploits on machines that haven't been updated in a year or longer, not counting cases of user error (clicking o...
[07:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the fuck is wrong with this site? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:59] <exec> 08└─I also got that a lot yesterday. Today, so far so good...
[07:10:00] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Re:What the fuck is wrong with this site? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 52 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:01] <exec> 08└─Well, I guess it's not Tuesday yet. (runs for cover)
[07:10:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gravis [4596] 02overhyped BS - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 46 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:02] <exec> 08└─Apple is now where Microsoft was a decade ago.
[07:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:overhyped BS - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:04] <exec> 08└─OS X is a POSIX platform which gives it many intrinsic security features
[07:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:overhyped BS - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:07] <exec> 08└─http://delphi.org/2013/10/6-stages-of-debugging/ [delphi.org] You must first admit you have a problem. MS looks like a cluster fuck because it was used so much. As apple gains share it will become a bigger target. In fact it is a target that refuses to believe it IS a target.
[07:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What's the problem with irregular patch schedul - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:09] <exec> 08└─Irregular patch schedule is cool with me too. There is no need to sit on bugs or roll multiple unrelated things into one patch.
[07:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:What's the problem with irregular patch schedul - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:11] <exec> 08└─That was my first thought also. However, further down they do list "or continuously like Google does with Chrome" as a patch schedule. So they are not arguing that bugs need to be patched only the third Wednedsday in a week, like a certain other company.
[07:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Will Microsoft have a Ford moment? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:13] <exec> 08└─Remember the taunt of Ford standing for "Found On Road Dead"? Then "quality is job 1", and then eventually Ford made some pretty durable cars. AFAIK they still aren't no. 1 but they're vastly improved.
[07:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Will Microsoft have a Ford moment? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:15] <exec> 08└─First on race day.
[07:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Will Microsoft have a Ford moment? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:17] <exec> 08└─Fix It Again, Tony
[07:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Will Microsoft have a Ford moment? - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:19] <exec> 08└─Don't buy a car starting with F: Ford, Fiat, French.
[07:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02What a classic - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:21] <exec> 08└─Advertise your stuff as a zero effort solution and then blame users for putting zero effort into security.
[07:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02This is still Apple we're talking about - 06Apple is Having its Microsoft Moment - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:22] <exec> 08└─Faulty code is found in every operating system, app and software program
[07:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:Avoiding Sales Tax - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:24] <exec> 08└─A mailbox in another state where the operator redirects the mail?
[07:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bezos is just like Bill Gates - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:26] <exec> 08└─The arrival of cheap Chinese shit was also a good thing. If you only need a product to last a summer and don't foresee using it after that, then it's nice that consumers are able to purchase a less durable but substantially cheaper option instead of being forced by Mom and Pop to purchase something...
[07:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Bezos is just like Bill Gates - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:27] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a fool. Cheap shit is cheap shit, and it's never worth paying hard earned cash for it. Never. Better to pay the extra dollar or ten for quality, and when you no longer need that quality item, you still have something to barter for the things that you DO need. Cheap Chinese shit does noth...
[07:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Bezos is just like Bill Gates - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:30] <exec> 08└─I grew up long before WalMart came along. [...]
[07:10:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03damnbunni [704] 02Re:Bezos is just like Bill Gates - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 1218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:31] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter if Amazon collects sales tax or not. Local businesses seem to think that Amazon not having to collect sales tax is the only reason people shop there. So when Amazon opened a warehouse in my state, and started collecting tax, there were hosannahs and hallelujahs from local businesse...
[07:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:2) 02Re:Bezos is just like Bill Gates - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:33] <exec> 08└─This is even worse. Amazon agreed to collect sales tax only if they themselves were exempt from paying it... It's just getting worse and worse. Big corporations all going "oh, we'll help the gov't enforce the rules, but we don't have follow those same rules. we'll only follow the ones we want to."
[07:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:Oregon - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:34] <exec> 08└─Hmm, it still sounds like you are paying apple taxes though.
[07:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Oregon - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:36] <exec> 08└─So you're stealing from your fellow citizens, and that's good?
[07:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oregon - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:37] <exec> 08└─Gaming a rigged Byzantine system isn't stealing, it's common sense.
[07:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oregon - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:39] <exec> 08└─I made sure to use cash, of course, so there is no trace of the transaction with my name attached to it.
[07:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Matthew principle in action - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:41] <exec> 08└─Comply with the law (they have local fulfillment centers, thus need to pay sales tax) by making other people pay taxes and they don't have to pay the same tax themselves on data centers or local employees. Hell, they could double down and just find a way to purchase all of their data center equipmen...
[07:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02My Experience - 06Amazon Now Collects Sales Tax on Purchases in Ohio - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:43] <exec> 08└─I made the mistake of forgetting Amazon doesn't bill you until the stuff ships, so when my state was to start collecting in a few days, I placed a big order. It took long enough that I got walloped for my greed. As others have noted, some Fulfilled by Amazon items do not get taxed.
[07:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is the best OS ever made. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:45] <exec> 08└─Google it. Srsly. Interesting read.
[07:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is the best OS ever made. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:48] <exec> 08└─Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment that assumes that an otherwise benevolent future artificial intelligence (AI) would torture the simulated selves of the people who did not help bring about the AI's existence. It would do so to blackmail the people who think about this idea now into helping th...
[07:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Linux is the best OS ever made. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:51] <exec> 08└─It's there to mind-fuck dumb people.
[07:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:53] <exec> 08└─Almost everyone on SN is a moderator and gets five points at midnight.
[07:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:55] <exec> 08└─AC's don't. New users don't. That's not "almost everyone". A lot of people are involuntarily excluded.
[07:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:56] <exec> 08└─You think giving AC's mod points is a wise idea? New users having to wait through to a probation period is also a good measure against abusive modding.
[07:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:58] <exec> 08└─The story was on Slashdot
[07:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score:4, Funny) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:59] <exec> 08└─Agreed. It wasn't until the third sentence that I eventually figured out this whole thing was about horse racing. Here I was hoping that the bloodline of the old Egyptian kings had been traced back to a now-American lineage, and that a secret proxy war had been silently raging 'neath the shady corpo...
[07:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TK [2760] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What a fucking shitty submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:02] <exec> 08└─That mod option would be too-liberally applied to any discussion of government surveillance. Similar to the proposed "+1 Sad but True" mod.
[07:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:/. tore apart this piece-of-shit submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:04] <exec> 08└─Well, i guess you can go back to Slashdot until the corporate overlords take a dump on everyone again. SN should still be going and would welcome you back : ) The submissions are community based but i agree that some are very biased. I don't think there is too much groupthink though. Plenty of peopl...
[07:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:/. tore apart this piece-of-shit submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 1062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:06] <exec> 08└─I still read both. Slashdot stories still get a lot more comments, and even if the signal to noise ratio is a lot lower, they still get a lot more good comments. The UI on Slashdot is still better (though the call for JS developers here a few days ago should help that, I can only assume that the dev...
[07:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:/. tore apart this piece-of-shit submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:09] <exec> 08└─I haven't been to Slashdot in a long time. I sporadically contribute story submissions to this site. I don't give a rat's ass if the story appeared or not over there, or anywhere else for that matter. I only care if it appeared here because I don't want to submit duplicate articles. I don't expect t...
[07:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:/. tore apart this piece-of-shit submission. - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:10] <exec> 08└─I don't give a rat's ass if the story appeared or not over there, or anywhere else for that matter.
[07:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02Re:Did they consider the data? - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:12] <exec> 08└─That's if you average them out, which completely ignores that all of the wins took place in a few clusters. The actual years, grouped by decade: 1919 1930 1935 1937 1941 1943 1946 1948 1973 1977 1978
[07:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Did they consider the data? - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:14] <exec> 08└─Still it's not so rare that we would expect horses to be breaking their legs, etc over it. The clustering reminds me of the high jump records : At a high school track meet in 1963, an athlete from Oregon changed the face of high jumping by falling, figuratively and literally, into a new technique.1...
[07:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03xorsyst [1372] (Score:1) 02Context - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:16] <exec> 08└─Editors - not everyone knows what this "triple crown" is. Some context before halfway down the first paragraph that it's some horse racing thing would be helpful.
[07:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03dbot [1811] (Score:2) 02Yes, crappy submission, and... - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:18] <exec> 08└─Just thought I'd pipe in my own 2 cents, lactic acid is currently believed to be bullshit, not science: http://runnersconnect.net [runnersconnect.net] There are at least some references on this article (which is why I included it), but the current st...
[07:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03GlennC [3656] (Score:2) 02I didn't know Science was even entered - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:20] <exec> 08└─What were his odds, and what post position did Science draw?
[07:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score:2) 02No, luck 'beat' severe inbreeding & training - 06American Pharoah Beats Science to Win Triple Crown - 1472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:22] <exec> 08└─To say that American Pharoah beat "science" would imply that the obstacle is a permanent force that humanity has no particular control over, which is horribly, horribly wrong. Think about it: horses evolved to gallop at top speed for the sake of safety, and never would have survived as a species if...
[07:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:SSL - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:24] <exec> 08└─AS a follow up to this, you MIGHT want to tune up your SSL setup: https://www.ssllabs.com [ssllabs.com] It's getting a failing grade on ssllabs and has several issues :(
[07:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Non Sequor [1005] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:y'know... - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
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[07:11:27] <exec> 08└─I wasn't volunteering, I was talking to a fellow dev. I'm guessing you don't have our skill so you think I meant to do it myself? I could, but I'd want money. A full rebuild like this would take about 2 months to get up and going in nodejs. The benefits would be incredible though. Imagine that as po...
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[07:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score:2) 02Re:Rendering - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:31] <exec> 08└─If you're changing to nginx, can you enable SPDY?
[07:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Rendering - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:32] <exec> 08└─I didn't even consider that possibility. Right now, I'm trying to put fires out, not start new ones, but if you post a good HOWTO guide, I'll look at it after the site is no longer on fire. (the new frontend just went into service, and with it, our SSLLabs score just went to A and 100/100 on Calomel...
[07:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:I appreciate the regular updates on site news - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:34] <exec> 08└─What I see as a flaw in that argument, is that the rules of the simulation, can not be broken. Roko's basilisk wouldn't be capable of roundhouse kicking you in the head once a day for punishment.
[07:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03throwaway28 [5181] (Score:1) 02Re:I appreciate the regular updates on site news - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:35] <exec> 08└─Why not? The simulation can take any form and any rules the AI desires.
[07:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I appreciate the regular updates on site news - 06Site Issues [Updated] - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:37] <exec> 08└─The idea doesn't state that we're in one of these torture-chamber simulations now, but that we'll be resurrected as a simulation to be tortured in the future if we don't do enough to help create Roko's Basilisk now, in what (for want of a better term) we call reality. If rules were constantly being...
[07:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:Diversity Needs Fascism - 06European Parliament Divided on Air Passenger Privacy - 1899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:39] <exec> 08└─Currently the main problems (but not the only ones) in the world come from followers of the religion of peach fighting each other over the right way to oppose what many of us in the west hold dear. They're the natural allies to the crazy bumfucks in the bible belt, except they have power, where as t...
[07:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Zealots will find anything to divide us - 06European Parliament Divided on Air Passenger Privacy - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:11:40] <exec> 08└─We Yooks, as you know, when we breakfast or sup eat our bread, every day, with the butter side up! But those Zooks, every meal, when they sit down, eat their bread with the butter side DOWN!
[07:11:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03quixote [4355] 02Magic underpants! - 06European Parliament Divided on Air Passenger Privacy - 265 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:42] <exec> 08└─So, I think I've understood: 1."The threats we face are real and we need to find solutions." 2. Evidence so far shows that tracking people does not remove the threats. 3. Proposed solution: track people! 4. ***Magic underpants go to work*** 5. Problem solved. Cool.
[07:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:1) 02Some people will never feel safe... - 06European Parliament Divided on Air Passenger Privacy - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:43] <exec> 08└─Swedish MEP Kristina Winberg of the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy group would likely find her mothers vagina unsafe and insecure.
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[07:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:25] <exec> 08└─Really! First one I have seen. And not a very good one, either. No biting sarcasm, no insightful criticism, no coherent thought! Ah, must be bot that lost the DARPA challenge.
[07:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lotto - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:13:35] <exec> 08└─And they did it deliberately to fuck over the poor, because all rich people are evil.
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[08:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02This is the cost of being a public figure - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:34] <exec> 08└─I regard it as being of fundamental importance that my essays on mental illness are widely read. Unfortunately that comes at the cost that many will dislike me for promoting myself. Consider that I use my real name online, or even where I don't my identity is plainly apparent from my writing style....
[08:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02at kuro5hin, he calls himself 'modus' - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:35] <exec> 08└─he spent money on google adwords ads in hopes of making me unemployable. I was good friends with Tsutomu Shimora at Caltech; he has a word for people like modus: "Anklebiters"
[08:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I have a close friend who gambles quite a bit - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:39] <exec> 08└─he knows the odds because he studied graduate mathematics at the U of Nevada in Reno, then took a job designing gambling machines. Go hang out in a big casino at ten o'clock on a monday morning; I did once, I wanted to vomit.
[08:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:44] <exec> 08└─We have taxes on tobacco, alcohol, and masturbation, and we call these "sin taxes". A state sponsored lottery is a "stupid tax". Not as easy to justify. I think we should just have a "rich tax". (Oh, just joking about the jacking tax. Sorry if I scared anyone.)
[08:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:45] <exec> 08└─We have taxes on ... masturbation
[08:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:47] <exec> 08└─I could easily get that kind of work as I have quite a lot of good experience, but for the specific reasons you state, I came to regard it as immoral. For quite a long time, I've been debating this with kuro5hin's procrasti, who is a financial professional. Every time I come up with what I regard as...
[08:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:1) 02Re:this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:49] <exec> 08└─That's interesting. IPOs in their current form are probably one of the things I like least about markets. They're just exit strategies for the real winners, dumping crap on the public. I'd like to see rule changes that require them to IPO earlier. I'll give you this though--the reverse IPO is often...
[08:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02'one entry per visit' - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:50] <exec> 08└─the reason that promotional drawings specifically say that one may enter only once per visit, is that some caltech students - in the early seventies IIRC - use a lineprinter to produce a few million "reasonable facsimiles" for a McDonaldss contest. The McDonalds people were quite unhappy about it bu...
[08:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02Arbitrage is fleeting - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:54] <exec> 08└─This sounds like arbitrage, or close to it. Enjoy it while you can, kids; because arbitrage is fleeting. It "closes" eventually. I think the most famous case of people forgetting this was the Barings [wikipedia.org] failure. When the arbitrage closed, that trader tried to extend the party with high...
[08:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Arbitrage is fleeting - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:56] <exec> 08└─They're bright boys. Hopefully they're aware of these examples.
[08:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Old! - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:57] <exec> 08└─Am I the only person seeing that this article is from 2012?
[08:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02the pandemic of trolls - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:18] <exec> 08└─now that the acs have discovered soylent news.
[08:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Here are six more infringers - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:42] <exec> 08└─You may have just provided Mr. Assman (with a surname like Asman, you'd think he'd develop thicker skin during elementary school) with additional targets. From an earlier ArsTechnica article [arstechnica.com]: Since "case" alone is often used as a synonym for "lawsuit," I pointed out to Asman that t...
[08:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Wasn't Assman... - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:14:48] <exec> 08└─Proctologist... yeh, I remember when I was in high school, Dad had a few run-ins with one of those. Then at University, I was told that I was to report to a proctor for an exam. I sure had the wrong idea of what would be expected of me.
[08:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aerotoxic syndrome perhaps - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:57] <exec> 08└─I find it funny how you criticize this woman for believing in things without good evidence and yet you yourself do the exactly same thing by claiming this is a fringe thing and talking about conspiracies. Remember 20 years ago when smoking certainly didn't cause cancer?
[08:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh my... - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:16:55] <exec> 08└─is it safe? Might they abuse this data in future? Should I stop donating to my favourite distro?
[08:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:18:56] <exec> 08└─So you'd basically like this loopy scenario to play on more than one planet?
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[09:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I stopped reporting bugs to Apple for a long time - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:45] <exec> 08└─... because I reported quite a serious zero-day via their bug report form [apple.com], but their triage engineer claimed it was a feature, not a bug, wrote "end of discussion" then closed my report. I mentioned this on an Apple list a couple years later; an Apple security engineer apologized, then e...
[09:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:I stopped reporting bugs to Apple for a long ti - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:46] <exec> 08└─Out of curiosity: how many years agodid this happen? Random thought: "it was a feature"... was it a backdoor?
[09:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:10] <exec> 08└─Scared ya! You past due liability is . . . . well, if we can't calculate it, we can't bill for it.
[09:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Arbitrage is fleeting - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:21] <exec> 08└─It doesn't sound like arbitrage. It sounds like a bet with a nett positive value. The maximum gain, assuming you can predict how many other groups will also be playing these games, and the number of schmucks otherwise participating in multi-roll-over lotteries, is finite. There is no it-takes-a-bigg...
[09:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:2) 02Re:reactions - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:53] <exec> 08└─What if I dusked my suit instead? :) (The proper word was "donned", not "dawned".)
[09:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A dead-simple approach to this problem - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:56] <exec> 08└─as far as containment goes, that would be pretty effective i think as far as personal liberties go... pfft that is sooo 18th century
[09:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:A dead-simple approach to this problem - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:14:58] <exec> 08└─Another low level but brutally efficient method is isolation which is what S.Korean authorities tries to do. The question is if that will contain the number of new cases. If the number of infected increases faster than they either get well or die then there's a big problem..
[09:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Sun's lawyers and the Java trademark - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:11] <exec> 08└─Hundreds of years? Not so fast! I was present at some of the original games, between 280 BC and when Theodosius (asshole!) banned them in 392 AD. The modern games only started in 1894. So not so many hundreds of years. And nothing so bad as FIFA! Silly circles? What do they even mean? Real Greeks...
[09:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:17] <exec> 08└─/b/ ? Anyway.. people may go slightly crazy when this corporate kleptomania is allowed to happen so there are some brakes that can engage on that behavior.
[09:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:19] <exec> 08└─I believe that was a reference to Microsoft being unable to trademark the term "Windows," but they were eventually allowed to trademark "Microsoft Windows" instead.
[09:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:29] <exec> 08└─And it's got you really bummed out?
[09:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:30] <exec> 08└─You should really stop bitching about that, because someone's going to point out that you're an idiot: Having good submissions is not the same as noticing the ones you've got are all recycled. Think of it this way - I don't need to be a 5 star chef to know undercooked chicken is bad, do I? Do I need...
[09:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's called the Golden Rule - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:36] <exec> 08└─That can't be right cos the Keynesian doves have been telling us for the past half century that gold is worthless.
[09:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's called the Golden Rule - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:15:38] <exec> 08└─Keynesian doves
[09:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:23] <exec> 08└─I know, but i also know that changing the contents of your hand luggage takes minutes. Changing airlines takes decades. In the meantime your health is on the line. Regarding quick and dirty. Well the problem is there ain't time or something else that causes it to be a Q&D solution. Otherwise there w...
[09:16:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02Re:Who Hasn't Smelled Fumes On an Airplane? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:34] <exec> 08└─Really? Nobody has mentioned chemtrails yet?
[09:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Unlikely source for gaming material... - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:16:59] <exec> 08└─Still sounds more entertaining than what comes out of EA anymore.
[09:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:17:20] <exec> 08└─Except that an update to the original article now states that it was only a copy of the original script. Maybe someone could update the summary to reflect this?
[09:19:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:29] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't bet on star trek.
[09:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:19:44] <exec> 08└─seriously. do you think mankind sprang forth from zeus' head fully formed into a society with centralized governing powers?
[09:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:03] <exec> 08└─Still something that is constructed using other less complicated resources and thus dependent on them. Energy makes the cogs spin and with that one can make materials or extract them and one can.. well. It makes it all happen.
[09:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:19] <exec> 08└─the problem of catalysts (every such reaction I've seen uses rare / expensive catalysts which are consumed in the course of running the reaction
[09:20:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:20:26] <exec> 08└─I think this line of thinking is right. Energy is what it all is about. Machines are just a side effect. If you have unlimited energy, then anything, literally anything is possible. And if you have cheap energy, as has been the case for the last 100 years a lot has been possible. And we've been buil...
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[09:22:28] <exec> 08└─were you looking for the "so stupid it hurts" mod option instead? It's sometimes very hard to tell the difference between a slightly annoying naivete and acting dumb for kicks (= either troll or flamebait).
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[10:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02It will be hard for Apple to fix - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:14:11] <exec> 08└─I can see the argument for it being a feature. Consider that I wrote a dozen line remote root exploit for A/UX 2.0 back in 1990. The A/UX time refused to fix the hole when I pointed it out because, as they claimed, that hole had to be there for A/UX 2.0 to work at all. After I attached the exploit s...
[10:15:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Assman? Unlikely. - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 56 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:15:36] <exec> 08└─To call him an Assman would imply his balls had dropped.
[10:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Sun's lawyers and the Java trademark - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:15:42] <exec> 08└─Hundreds of years? Not so fast! I was present at some of the original games, between 280 BC and when Theodosius (asshole!) banned them in 392 AD. The modern games only started in 1894.
[10:16:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:16:02] <exec> 08└─Except that horse racing publicity one, which was older... speaking of which, where's our sports publicity/"I can't do counting good" story for the day?
[10:17:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ghost [4467] 02Re:Script? - 06Original Star Wars Script Discovered in University of New Brunswick Library - 420 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:17:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah... What most people (outside of the business) don't realize is that George Lucas was married to Marcia Lucas from 1969 to 1983. So what? Well, she was a film editor ... and script doctor. After 83, you get shit like Howard the Duck because Marcia's not there to tell him it sucks. In the early d...
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[11:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:3, Informative) 02Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:23:16] <exec> 08└─An editor has left an unclosed tag again, I think.
[11:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:17] <exec> 08└─As have I, by mistake.
[11:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:19] <exec> 08└─Holy crap, the entire interface is tiny O_o And getting tinier. Had to ctrl+wheel to even see the text I'm typing. Any way to fix this? For now I'll try to put a few closing tags here. If a random comment (or TFS) with an unclosed tag can wreak havoc on the entire site, that's a major bug :/
[11:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:21] <exec> 08└─For now I'll try to put a few closing tags here.
[11:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Missin tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:23:23] <exec> 08└─As seen in the article text: <a href="https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=7694">Original Submission</a> 
[11:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Testing alert('XSS attack'); - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:24] <exec> 08└─This site is vulnerable to XSS attack!
[11:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Testing alert('XSS attack'); - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:26] <exec> 08└─XSS = Cross Summary Small? :-)
[11:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02This site is XSS vulnerable at the moment - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:23:27] <exec> 08└─Devs, please take cate to fix asap!!
[11:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02vulnerable? - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:29] <exec> 08└─Click on the title to find out!
[11:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:It will be hard for Apple to fix - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:23:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but how old is your bug report?
[11:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score:2) 02Re:this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:24:04] <exec> 08└─While your comments contain good points, usually, you almost consistently start with some arrogant remark about how you easily are the best person on earth. That makes me *very* apathetic to reading the rest of the comment. Please, I beg of you, consider not doing that. Plz?
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[12:22:25] <exec> 08└─I looked at the queue and saw some shitty submissions that aren't worthy of the front page here. This is a friendly notice to the editors, so that they can just throw these shitty submissions into the trash right away. SWAT Team Destroys Man's Home with Explosives, Ram in Pursuit of Shoplifter [ ‭...
[12:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02GOG 2012 - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:42] <exec> 08└─GOG had a similar incident back in 2012: http://www.gog.com [gog.com] For those who don't get what happened, GOG were not escaping characters, so when someone posted a topic called: > Man, I think I'm realy old. When di...
[12:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03sudo rm -rf [2357] (Score:2) 02My Bank needs them! - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:22:57] <exec> 08└─They should offer their services to my bank. To log on to the online banking you need: numeric 9-digit account number, password is an alphanumeric code, fixed (!) length of 5 (five!). Since they updated their online banking website a few years ago, it keeps telling me that my transaction limit is (n...
[12:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:29:33] <exec> 08└─Distorting local economies with free goods can and does have a negative impact to the sector that used to produce that good. For example, we continually cry foul when the Chinese dump goods below cost in the United States in order to run their competitors out of business. Unfortunately, the US has b...
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[13:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02No submissions from you, Alert! - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:17] <exec> 08└─We will replace them with your submissions just as soon as we receive them.
[13:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:18] <exec> 08└─We need very little fuel for the turbofans and the performance penalty we pay for the Ariane 6 launcher is far less than the 30 percent or more performance penalty that SpaceX pays for the reusable Falcon 9 first stage
[13:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:30] <exec> 08└─Intuitive attempt :)
[13:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Testing - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:34] <exec> 08└─Appreciate the heads up. Tags shouldn't be allowed at all in the Subject.
[13:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:Testing - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:36] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the quick response. Btw there are some leftovers in the thread above.
[13:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:<a href="javascript:alert('yes!')">vulnerable?< - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:40] <exec> 08└─NoScript FTW again! All you javascript-loving nodejs devs who were born yesterday can suuuuuuuck it! Javascript makes security brittle -- one screw up and a site goes from safe to loaded with exploits.
[13:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:This site is XSS vulnerable at the moment - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:41] <exec> 08└─They have noticed, thank you for alerting everybody :)
[13:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02XSS Attack! - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:43] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, (perhaps I should say usefully?), NoScript picked up on the XSS attack on this page when it loaded and helpfully blocked it / gave a warning.
[13:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Re:XSS Attack! - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:45] <exec> 08└─Lol, do you mean you saw a browser alert box saying "XSS attack!" ?
[13:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02how low... can you go.... - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:47] <exec> 08└─well this is fun
[13:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:how low... can you go.... - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:22:48] <exec> 08└─the small tags seem to work in the reply page
[13:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:22] <exec> 08└─Some places have additional taxes on adult magazines. As for adult porn channels on television - while not an actual "tax" because the government is not collecting the money - you have to wonder why a single channel can cost almost the same as your monthly cable bill. And it's not because porn movie...
[13:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:23:23] <exec> 08└─and you won't complain about it either because you know you are a "sinner"
[13:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unlikely source for gaming material... - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:26:15] <exec> 08└─Hmm, die of dysentery or buy an EA game... decisions, decisions...
[13:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:28:38] <exec> 08└─Also, given that I had specifically referenced homesteads, assuming my ignorance of the Homestead Act was obviously wrong. The only reason the US government had that land to give away to homesteaders was because they had taken it from the people who had lived there previously, as part of their appro...
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[14:22:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02HomeKit - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:04] <exec> 08└─https://developer.apple.com/homekit/ [apple.com] http://www.theverge.com [theverge.com] http://www.theregister.co.uk [theregister.co.uk] http://www.engadget.com
[14:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2, Interesting) 02All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:06] <exec> 08└─I rather desperately need to replace my Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4121 which is what ultimately replaced my Newton MessagePad (which in turn replaced an NCR-3125 (donated to the Smithsonian by the guy I sold it to) running PenPoint). What is so hard about making a portable machine which: - has a dayl...
[14:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:08] <exec> 08└─YotaPhone 2?
[14:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:09] <exec> 08└─My apologies, having a usable screen size and the ability to run arbitrary applications was implied, but not explicitly stated. Big thing is I need a Beziér curve drawing program (yes, I did w/o one on the Newton --- it was portable enough w/ long enough battery life and I was at a point in my life...
[14:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:11] <exec> 08└─I don't follow Apple much but am curious about the digital restrictions. I've skimmed about a half dozen summaries of the event and haven't seen if their streaming music service remains DRM-free. It was a big deal for Jobs and one of the major points he used in selling. I'm guessing that since we ha...
[14:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:13] <exec> 08└─I don't see any direct confirmation, but it almost certainly uses DRM. Most streaming does nowadays. The apps won't be browser-based so that eliminates common ways to get at cached music. This editorial [theverge.com] made it to Slashdot [slashdot.org]. Steve Jobs' 2007 essay on music DRM [archive.o...
[14:22:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:20] <exec> 08└─We need very little fuel for the turbofans and the performance penalty we pay for the Ariane 6 launcher is far less than the 30 percent or more performance penalty that SpaceX pays for the reusable Falcon 9 first stage
[14:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03gman003 [4155] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:22] <exec> 08└─In the long run, after spacex version 1 is working, they might implement something like the adeline project as version 2. I think its a mistake for adeline project to try and skip that far ahead.
[14:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:23] <exec> 08└─Airbus's supposedly bolder-than-SpaceX approach will be implemented around 2025-2030. I wonder what SpaceX will be doing in 10-15 years.
[14:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03paulej72 [58] (Score:2) 02Re:<h1>This site is XSS vulnerable at the moment</ - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:43] <exec> 08└─Fixed. Thanks for letting us know, but I would think the next time try it on dev.soylentnews.org instead so we don't clog up the production site with bad data.
[14:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:XSS Attack! - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:47] <exec> 08└─that's what i saw
[14:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:how low... can you go.... - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:22:52] <exec> 08└─You're killing me, Smalls.
[14:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score:4, Funny) 02Typical internet - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:22:53] <exec> 08└─And no single on-topic comment was made (And I'm not exactly helping here either.)
[14:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02I'll have to look it up again, maybe three years - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:04] <exec> 08└─It's a fundamental design flaw, not just a simple bug.
[14:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:24] <exec> 08└─Also, casinos kick out those who they realize do understand probability, try to get everyone good and drunk so even if they understand probability they won't use their knowledge, and design their games so that even if you know what you're doing you'll still lose. The only game commonly played in a c...
[14:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Bunch of eggheads game the system. - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:37] <exec> 08└─Not only did eggheads game the system, which in itself is damning enough, but they took money from poor desperate stupid people who can barely afford to play the lottery. This story is why people hate nerds, and rightfully so.
[14:23:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Lotto - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:43] <exec> 08└─Well, yes, they are.
[14:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03gallondr00nk [392] (Score:2) 02Re:Arbitrage is fleeting - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:23:48] <exec> 08└─There's quite a number of sites dedicated to sports betting in a similar fashion. Using different bookmakers worldwide, it's possible to hedge on both sides of a sports result and win money regardless.
[14:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Here are six more infringers - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:24:41] <exec> 08└─Don't forget all the people who post in Uppercase. Did Sanford Wallace change his name?
[14:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Makes me happy - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:25:02] <exec> 08└─Congrats, you just got yourself dropped from a bunch of marketers mailing lists
[14:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excellent case - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:06] <exec> 08└─I burned the pictures.
[14:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:28:54] <exec> 08└─Still gotta pay taxes.
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[15:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:16] <exec> 08└─It's an Android device, and the e-ink display is 4.7 inches at 540 x 960. That's better resolution and roughly the same display size as Newton.
[15:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:17] <exec> 08└─Agreed and understood. The thing is, I'm no longer able to make do w/ such a small display --- the Newton happened at a time (college) when I didn't need a Beziér drawing program, or a larger display. Still glad to know about the device, and I hope that it presages a return of daylight viewable dis...
[15:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:18] <exec> 08└─The YotaPhone 2 is bigger than the original, so I could imagine a third version approaching phablet sizes. That's about the best you can hope for before it becomes a large tablet and not the PDA/smartphone you originally described. An e-ink tablet [cnet.com] (that does more than an Amazon e-reader)...
[15:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:20] <exec> 08└─What you want is called a Motion CL920. It is designed for industrial use so it is probably more than what you are willing to spend but there it is. Motion has been making the tablets you would actually want to buy for years and they really have locked up the niche of "tablets for people who actuall...
[15:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:1) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:23] <exec> 08└─The removal of the editorial seems like it might be signaling a shift in the way they've done music. Jobs used to be in control. Now it looks like Cook might have Apple on the other end of the leash in regards to the music industry. But again, in now close to two dozen summaries of the event, I've n...
[15:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:25] <exec> 08└─It's an odd move to censor your deity's teachings.
[15:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:26] <exec> 08└─I started wearing a crap $5 watch for kids again, and the ability to check the time without pulling out a smartphone is worthwhile. Now add in a bunch of calendar and Dick Tracy features that are a pain to use, and ask yourself, is this worth $100? $180? $250? $400? $17,000? Or just $5?
[15:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Swift - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:28] <exec> 08└─They also said they were making iMessage (or was it FaceTime) an open standard.
[15:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:39] <exec> 08└─I wonder what SpaceX will be doing in 10-15 years.
[15:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:22:41] <exec> 08└─I was thinking along the same lines. SpaceX launches a rocket and then lands a rocket. Airbus launches a rocket and then transforms into an aircraft that lands. I'm glad someone else is attempting reusable rockets though. Other space companies won't be able to compete if they keep doing the same old...
[15:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:<h1>This site is XSS vulnerable at the moment</ - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:03] <exec> 08└─but I would think the next time try it on dev.soylentnews.org instead
[15:23:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ticho [89] 02Typical internet - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:11] <exec> 08└─And no single on-topic comment was made (And I'm not exactly helping here either.)
[15:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Hey, it still works on the moderaton page - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:12] <exec> 08└─Wow, I just modded some stuff in here and the moderation results page looks really weird from all the HTML in the titles.
[15:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Screw geolocation - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:14] <exec> 08└─There are a bunch of nitwits in the UK who insist that I can only watch UK stuff if I'm in the UK. There seem to be some exceptions to the rule, but I don't understand them, nor do I really give a damn about the rules OR the exceptions. VPN does the trick. I know, I should gloat to much over those s...
[15:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:16] <exec> 08└─Region locking has never made sense to consumers. To us it looks like they don't even want to make money. Just put the stuff on the market and let everyone buy it.
[15:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why the fuss? - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:17] <exec> 08└─Who really f*****g cares whether they can't see the episodes of some stupid TV show in another country right away? Like you've got nothing else to watch? Or do? That's not 10x better? This is just more whining from the "Those greedy media company executives are screwing us over, and that's why we we...
[15:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll have to look it up again, maybe three year - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:23:28] <exec> 08└─This. Sometimes it is a design flaw. "There is a hole in the side of the car, which has no locking mechanism, and placing sugar into it halts vehicle operation." "It will be fixed next version."
[15:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03negrace [4010] (Score:1) 02old news - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:13] <exec> 08└─Come on, I heard this story like 3-4 years ago.
[15:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02future news - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:14] <exec> 08└─i foresee a future were multi-multi-belleonairs can only buy more lottery tickets ... and nothing else. do you want some fermented tickets with that ticket stew?
[15:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assman? Unlikely. - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:01] <exec> 08└─Sounds like he's a little butthurt
[15:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:13] <exec> 08└─Lasers? WTF? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wasn't Assman... - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:25:20] <exec> 08└─Don't smear proctologists by associating this man with them. Proctologists provide a useful service and have skills...this guy, not so much.
[15:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:28:17] <exec> 08└─And if it did leave the house, like in a letter sent to the victim or stuck under her car's windshield wiper, it then became a problem. The guy made these posts explicitly public.
[15:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:29:25] <exec> 08└─No, it was ignorance on the part of the Natives. They did not know the game was rigged and many tribes did not have a concept of land ownership. On the East Coast there was ownership in that areas were specifically utilized by non-warring peoples and had been that way for countless generations.
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[16:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Apple will open source the Swift language - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 1130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:36] <exec> 08└─Why will Apple open source the Swift programming language? It's not like there aren't a million and one general-purpose languages now. What does it do that Java or Python won't do? Swift is the glue language for Apple's Cocoa, iOS, etc frameworks, but take those away, and ... ? What's left? The larg...
[16:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:22:48] <exec> 08└─The argument will likely come down to dollars and cents. Similar to how the Space Shuttle was recoverable, however the cost per launch was much higher than disposable rocket systems. The amount of reconditioning of the SpaceX stage will be a major factor - if the fuel tanks need to be closely inspec...
[16:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Re:Unclosed tag - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:05] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the help, but I don't have any problems with the default size :) There was a bug (well, two bugs) with unclosed tags in the summary and comment subjects being applied to everything below it, including the input boxes. On top of that, subjects weren't filtered for tags at all, so arbitrary...
[16:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:how low... can you go.... - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:23:25] <exec> 08└─You're killing me, Smalls.
[16:23:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02Screw geolocation - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 817 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:28] <exec> 08└─There are a bunch of nitwits in the UK who insist that I can only watch UK stuff if I'm in the UK. There seem to be some exceptions to the rule, but I don't understand them, nor do I really give a damn about the rules OR the exceptions. VPN does the trick. I know, I should gloat to much over those s...
[16:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:Do you know why I like to wear neckties? - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:24:47] <exec> 08└─Nicely done. You know you shouldn't respond to trolls but that was pretty classy.
[16:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02honey, I'm home - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:08] <exec> 08└─it is interesting that no one in the middle east is ick or getting sick. maybe they're immune to the always-on, omnipresent, humid, not-cared-for, bacteria and virus growth vats called .. air-conditioners? or maybe it cannot become pupic :) knowledge that people with too much time and money like to...
[16:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:honey, I'm home - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:09] <exec> 08└─"hi honey! did you take all your anti-biotics and wear a condom on your trip? oh and did you bring me that diamond ring?"
[16:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tramii [920] (Score:2) 02Re:Dangerous Trends! Today! - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:25:46] <exec> 08└─I don't need to be a 5 star chef to know undercooked chicken is bad, do I?
[16:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02who's the dummy? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:56] <exec> 08└─i always like the part were people give me the evil eye, put there hand over their mouth and force a cough when walking past cigarette-smoking me ... in a underground car-park garage. non-smoking flight: most airplanes suck in outside air with their engines, by-pass some of it, compress it (maybe hu...
[16:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Multidimensional Space Nonsense - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:19] <exec> 08└─""John Romero broke ground with Doom, but what was it that he was doing? He was expanding dimensional space in that game." The PhD graduate from Simon Fraser University, and her family, were familiar with concepts like dimensional space well before they could be related to the alternate realities of...
[16:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:29:45] <exec> 08└─many tribes did not have a concept of land ownership
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[17:22:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02In other news … - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:07] <exec> 08└─In other news, just after the light sail was deployed, someone switched off the light.
[17:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why are they wasting He? - 06NASA's Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator June 8 Test - 1130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:15] <exec> 08└─He has useful prosperities other than putting balloons in the air. It cannot be recovered from water like H or O. Must be found in pockets in the earth. He once released, cannot be recaptured like C. C recovery is time consuming to grow plants and bury them. It is even considered military asset, sin...
[17:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are they wasting He? - 06NASA's Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator June 8 Test - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:17] <exec> 08└─Helium production is a by-product of natural gas processing. You don't need to find buried pockets of helium in the ground to tap. Hydrogen is classified as a hazardous material by OSHA, which adds all sorts of administrative and financial burdens for an experiment. This kind of R&D is exactly what...
[17:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:33] <exec> 08└─Actually, I considered getting a refurbished CL900 from Gainsaver. The things which put me off: - battery life - expense of a refurbished machine vice the new Toshiba Encore 2 Write 10 - machine weight / size - daylight viewable display isn't transflective --- instead it's sort of dayli...
[17:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:35] <exec> 08└─The new ones are quite good on battery life. Motion and Fujitsu seem to be the only manufacturers who "get" tablets... everybody else just makes breakable youtube screens IMHO. I have a T731 that I can use as defensive weapon in a pinch. The new R12 is pretty amazing but, unless work is paying, I am...
[17:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kbahey [1147] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:37] <exec> 08└─NCR-3125
[17:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:22:41] <exec> 08└─I'd rather wear a watch than carry around a cinderbl, er... smartphone in my pocket. I mean, I have one, but it stays in my backpack unless I'm using it. The watch is better for camping and places where you might not be able to charge up that phone if it dies too. I'm not talking about stupid expens...
[17:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Screw geolocation - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:23:34] <exec> 08└─I wonder how region restrictions can be considered compatible with free trade.
[17:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This guy has a better perspective - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:37] <exec> 08└─Adi Shankar has a much better perspective on what it takes to get a movie made and financed. Watch his video on the process https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Now remember there are now dozens of 'owners' in 'regions'. You can see exactly how we ended up with what we have. Bas...
[17:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It would not be hard for me to pull this off - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:24:13] <exec> 08└─The answer is that there is insufficient information for statistical analysis. Anything else is arrogant assuming.
[17:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:25:42] <exec> 08└─You have never seen their images that they post in those threads? They are (I admit) rather funny. One of the most common is charging their lasers which seems to indicate that they are going on the war path which may include the LOIC. Out of morbid curiosity I went and observed them. They are mostly...
[17:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unlikely source for gaming material... - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:27:31] <exec> 08└─So all those times tech support told me "it's working as designed" they were actually trying to lead me to enlightenment? I suddenly feel quite enlightened. Very good koan...
[17:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score:2) 02Need a Sarcasm Tag for the titles - 06Tired of Telemarketing Calls? Has PayPal Got News for You! - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:38] <exec> 08└─I was hoping that Paypal was doing something that would reduce telemarketer calls . . . I know, silly me.
[17:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:It's raining Red Herring - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:30:00] <exec> 08└─I meant individual land-ownership but, obviously, was remiss in my submission. My sincere apologies. I had thought it clear but it certainly was not.
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[18:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:07] <exec> 08└─Come on. This submission is just plain dumb. Why the hell is this submission on the SN front page? We don't care about what Rick Santorum thinks. We don't care about what Pope Francis thinks. We don't care about what they think about each other. We don't care about climate change. We don't care abou...
[18:22:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:09] <exec> 08└─Because someone wrote something more meaningful than you did, I guess.
[18:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02BS, MS, PhD - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:11] <exec> 08└─Santorum= Bullshit, More Shit, Piled higher and Deeper. santorum (san-TOR-um) n. 1. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex. http://www.spreadingsantorum.com [spreadingsantorum.com]
[18:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:12] <exec> 08└─"Any time you hear a scientist say science is settled, that's political science, not real science."
[18:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Bigger fish to fry: - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:20] <exec> 08└─If someone can switch off the sun, I'm worrying about much more than the lightsail.
[18:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02We're gonna need a bigger...sail - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:22] <exec> 08└─The difficulties of interstellar travel are nearly insurmountable, but this is definitely a step in the right direction. Seems to me an enormous sail is not only one of the best, cheapest ways to get from here to there (for very large values of "there"), but also could double as an enormous dish rec...
[18:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02What the fuck are you talking about? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:24] <exec> 08└─What the fuck are you talking about? You don't need a bigger dish. All you need to do is send out one probe each year along the same trajectory, and they relay the transmissions through one another. They chain together to eliminate the distance between Earth and the first probe. It's like a good old...
[18:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Covalent [43] (Score:2) 02Re:What the fuck are you talking about? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:25] <exec> 08└─I know...don't feed the trolls, but this is just too stupid to be allowed to live. The cost of a bigger sail is vastly cheaper than the daisy chain you foolishly propose. While an array of satellites in the solar system will probably be required to receive these signals, this would still be orders o...
[18:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What the fuck are you talking about? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:28] <exec> 08└─I don't usually mod when I post...but when I do, I downmod morons like you.
[18:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonymousCowardNoMore [5416] (Score:1) 02Re:We're gonna need a bigger...sail - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 1341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:29] <exec> 08└─Cruise speed depends on the cargo. A solar sail with a decent-to-high lightness factor deployed at a very low perihelion (~0.01AU is probably the minimum achievable due to overheating) would accelerate at between about 1g and 700g(!). The structural loads involved will limit the final cruise speed d...
[18:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Take cover! Stupid gewg_ submission incoming! - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:32] <exec> 08└─Watch out, people! Take cover! Another shitty, biased submission from gewg_ has been detected in the queue: "SWAT Team Destroys Man's Home with Explosives, Ram in Pursuit of Shoplifter" Yep, it's yet another shitty submission linking to AlterNet. It's also riddled with "[...]". It's never a good sig...
[18:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Take cover! Stupid gewg_ submission incoming! - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:35] <exec> 08└─So, you go to another thread to post offtopic ranting about it. Thus drawing more attention to it. Uh. Why do I suspect that you're actually gewg_ doing some advertising for your post?
[18:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Take cover! Stupid gewg_ submission incoming! - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:37] <exec> 08└─Meta discussion about Soylent News and pending submissions is on-topic in any and every topic. Anyone who mods down such discussion has moderated abusively. Obviously the point is to draw attention to that submission. That way the editors can throw it out right away, without risking such shit ending...
[18:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Hots, huh? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:38] <exec> 08└─You've got the hots for gewg_, right? I don't know which way he swings. Do you want me to ask him for you? I've got a better idea though. If you make better submissions than he does, you'll catch his attention, along with his envy and admiration. And, all the rest of us can sit around and watch your...
[18:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Hots, huh? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:41] <exec> 08└─What's with all of the homoeroticism here? Why can't we discuss astronomy without people like you bringing sodomy and penises into the discussion?
[18:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Re:Why are they wasting He? - 06NASA's Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator June 8 Test - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:22:43] <exec> 08└─Compared to all the helium used in child's balloons one research balloon is a drop in the bucket. We're only recently starting to do helium recovery of the gas when large liquid helium cooled NMR magnets quench. (I work in a chemistry department with large superconducting NMR magnets. This became a...
[18:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I left out rather a long list of Fujitsu tablets which I used before the ST-4121: - Point PT510 - Stylistic LT C500 - Stylistic ST2300 - Stylistic ST4110 I've got quite the collection of power supplies, docking stations, &c. Really regret that Fujitsu isn't making a direct replace...
[18:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah the market seems a bit confused at the moment. Samsung seems to be flirting with moving upmarket but has not really committed. You get a digitizer but not much else to make the form factor worthwhile. Wacom has the Cintiq but the price is really off the wall unless you REALLY need it or have ca...
[18:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:1) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:03] <exec> 08└─Yep. It ran PenPoint quite nicely, and Windows for Pen Computing well enough. Really miss PenPoint --- it paired really well w/ my NeXT Cube.
[18:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 1236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:10] <exec> 08└─WRT the velvet shackles of consumer electronics, I suppose it varies by social circle but I like having it occasionally be OK for the battery to be dead. Even when it isn't actually dead, sometimes. The world will go on after I'm gone, so I'm sure it'll survive a camping trip without me. Phones are...
[18:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 751 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:11] <exec> 08└─I'm not the least bit worried about the world, really. It's more that I want to use it and it's dead. Generally for time or maps. It's important to know when to turn back on your hike or how long you have before the outfitter's pickup bus packs it in and you're walking home. If you know what time it...
[18:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Swift - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:13] <exec> 08└─If was the FaceTime protocol, and they didn't because there were licensed patents needed that prevented them from doing so. No such issues with Swift.
[18:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Focus on the problem. - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:24] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't with the number of submissions. There were and are lots of other good submissions in the queue. The problem is with the small number of really shitty ones. As an editor, you need to focus on getting rid of those shitty ones, rather than putting them on the front page like has happe...
[18:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:2) 02We understand the problem better than you think - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 1237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:23:25] <exec> 08└─Perhaps not everyone agrees with your own view of what constitutes a good submission and what doesn't. If you want to edit submissions then you will be welcome on the team. Contact either myself or mrcoolbp via email or on IRC. Maybe an editor will think that the story is worth printing, Perhaps ano...
[18:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:Screw geolocation - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:09] <exec> 08└─Donation and dirty secrets make everything compatible :P
[18:24:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jimshatt [978] 02Re:this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 275 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:24:58] <exec> 08└─While your comments contain good points, usually, you almost consistently start with some arrogant remark about how you easily are the best person on earth. That makes me *very* apathetic to reading the rest of the comment. Please, I beg of you, consider not doing that. Plz?
[18:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dogeball [814] (Score:1) 02Re:Sun's lawyers and the Java trademark - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:08] <exec> 08└─The "Olympic Café" up the road from where I was living in 2012 was ordered to change its name (it had been trading as such for at least 10 years.) It became the " lympic Café."
[18:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I've "observed" a couple of high profile shenanigans. It's been awhile though - maybe I've just forgotten some of it. You said "laser" and I immediately thought "ion cannon". I guess there wouldn't be a lot of difference if you happened to be standing downrange when either weapon was fired, ri...
[18:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tathra [3367] (Score:2) 02Re:I understand that Jewish people... - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:26:55] <exec> 08└─the ends do not justify the means, but once the knowledge is already obtained, its stupid to forget it or let it go to waste just because it was obtained unethically. the problem of "this knowledge would be incredibly helpful to all but would be unethical to obtain" is neatly sidestepped by getting...
[18:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bah! - 06First Mind-Controlled Prosthetic Legs - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:08] <exec> 08└─If these are so great, why hasn't Dr. X been using them??
[18:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:29:30] <exec> 08└─> Very unlike a letter sent to the victim or stuck under her car's windshield wiper. Not identical, but also not the same as "just venting to friends." Especially when the author knows that his wife is in the circle of people most likely to see the threats. The very fact that he explicitly included...
[18:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sticks and Stones - 06Free Speech, Threats, and Facebook: A Supreme Court Decision - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:29:36] <exec> 08└─The idea that words can't hurt is fucking stupid and obviously false. Words can and do hurt. Psychological abuse is a very real thing.
[18:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:43] <exec> 08└─Unless you got to little income?
[18:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a new thought - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:30:54] <exec> 08└─Unemployment leading to art and other productive things requires one to have food and shelter. If you're starving to death or living on the streets, your sole focus is going to be finding food and shelter.
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[19:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:10] <exec> 08└─There is no problem with the quantity of submissions. There are lots of good ones in the queue. The problem is that really bad ones like this keep on ending up on the front page. Submitting more good stories, when there are already many good in the queue, won't do anything to fix the problem of real...
[19:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:11] <exec> 08└─You seem to think that having 8 subs in the queue is a lot. When the site started, we could expect to have 30+ in the queue each day. The nagger ('Only x submissions in the queue') is programmed to show on the front page when we go below 20. I cannot remember a day when the nagger has not displayed...
[19:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:12] <exec> 08└─Well, climate change is something that is being widely tracked by thousands of scientists around the world. The data being collected is huge. So, on that score it is exactly what should be on the front page of a site that is "news for nerds." Second, it's talking about policy on scientific matters b...
[19:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:14] <exec> 08└─"Climate change" is not about science. "Climate change" is nothing but politics.
[19:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:17] <exec> 08└─No, it's not "settled". Science, by definition, cannot be "settled". Science deals with theories, not fact. Theories cannot be "settled". Therefore science cannot be "settled".
[19:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:18] <exec> 08└─Now, here's the thing. Particularly noxious idiots do exist and contest that. I seem to recall Conservapedia's incredibly disturbed owner-in-chief once claim quite avidly that scientists can't know that gravitational force is proportional to the square of distance between objects. (it was part of a...
[19:22:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:21] <exec> 08└─scientists can't know that gravitational force is proportional to the square of distance between objects.
[19:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:22] <exec> 08└─Ah, so the question of the earth revolving around the sun is not yet settled? Or is orbital mechanics just political science?
[19:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:24] <exec> 08└─Ah, so the question of the earth revolving around the sun is not yet settled? Or is orbital mechanics just political science?
[19:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:26] <exec> 08└─Cue an anon's hate for climate discussion. But what I'm surprised about is that this article [bbc.com] wasn't submitted instead. A group of scientists and economists is calling for the equivalent of the Apollo space programme to produce cheap, clean energy. Apollo engaged America’s best minds to p...
[19:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:29] <exec> 08└─This isn't even a submission about climate change. This is a submission about one religious politician bickering about another religious politician. While it might be good fodder for the Huffington Post, it has no place here.
[19:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:31] <exec> 08└─I read that. Please submit it.
[19:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:32] <exec> 08└─Submit it!
[19:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rick Santorum Wants... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:34] <exec> 08└─Rick Santorum wants something... So what, I want a pony and my own dragon.
[19:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rick Santorum Wants... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:35] <exec> 08└─Too much My Little Pony for you.
[19:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Funny) 02Two can play at that game - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:37] <exec> 08└─I want Santorum to stop talking about the pontiff and leave Poping to the Pope.
[19:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02And I just want - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:38] <exec> 08└─And I just want Rick Santorum to stop talking.
[19:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Just another example.... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:40] <exec> 08└─... of why the Republican Party in the U.S. is a great embarrassment to the American people (even if many of them don't realize it). Rick Santorum is one of many pus-filled boils and carbuncles on the American body politic. He's simply clueless. Pope Francis is absolutely right in speaking out on cl...
[19:22:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03robmullr [5323] (Score:1) 02Pope is a People in Government - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:42] <exec> 08└─"Politicians, whether we like it or not, people in government have to make decision with regard to public policy that affect American workers," The Pope is a head of state so he fits the same definition as a person in government. It isn't necessarily his moral authority here being exercised. Hey San...
[19:22:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:43] <exec> 08└─I can't see where Santorum is coming from, here, and I think it's politically probably unwise for him to piss off his catholic supporters in this way. When the effects of climate change become worse for the coming 500 years, it's the poor that are going to suffer most. There are more poor catholics...
[19:22:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:45] <exec> 08└─The most likely effect of CO2 is more clouds (to compensate any additional energy retention with albedo) and a more temperate climate across the globe (if it does the things that have been claimed, it will be like a grease that lets the heat spread around). In the long run it should require fewer re...
[19:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Take cover! Stupid gewg_ submission incoming! - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:22:55] <exec> 08└─Why don't you go through the editor training to learn how they do it, then you can put in some time as an editor yourself to make the articles better. Or you can scour the internet to find better submissions for the queue. It's just that easy.
[19:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:HomeKit - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:16] <exec> 08└─Sorry your home will be kept at 45 °C until you buy an iPhone that you install HomeKit on so that you may buy a license to change the room temperature..
[19:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:28] <exec> 08└─Which machine had the best transflective screen? My thinking here is that a transflective and touch/pen sensitive screen is the hardest thing to come by. So perhaps it's easier to find a working screen and then doing some transplantation of the hardware that runs it.
[19:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02NCR-3125 - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:31] <exec> 08└─which in turn replaced an NCR-3125 (donated to the Smithsonian by the guy I sold it to) running PenPoint
[19:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillAdams [1424] (Score:2) 02Re:NCR-3125 - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:32] <exec> 08└─The pen line there is wrong. It had an active digitizer / stylus done by Wacom --- only binary though, no pressure support, so it only registered on / off.
[19:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:41] <exec> 08└─About the only thing I don't like is the "we decided to F you over by charging $50 for new maps because we can and you can't do anything about it" aspect.
[19:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple will open source the Swift language - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:45] <exec> 08└─The language standards people are mostly still using are C/C++ and Java. Which are old and tired. We certainly need a new language to replace those. Swift has optionals, a better error model, values and structs as full UDTs, interactive experimentation with playgrounds, tuples, no need for header fi...
[19:23:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple will open source the Swift language - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:46] <exec> 08└─If the summary is correct, it would seem they're making it open source in the same way that Objective-C is open source, and my guess is that their intent is to draw broader support for the language. Poor support outside of Apple is one major problem with Objective-C, which despite looking butt-ugly...
[19:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WWDC - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:48] <exec> 08└─How are any of these things that were announced on the world wide DEVELOPER conference relevant to developers? It's just more of "Here's a bunch of stock apps we'll provide to our customers which will then no longer have any incentive to seek out yours" BAH, humbug!
[19:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WWDC - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:23:50] <exec> 08└─There's always a keynote at WWDC. It typically includes some product announcements. It also includes developer announcements (you know, the next OS X, the next iOS, etc. - like - the stuff that was in there). And then the rest of the conference is developer related stuff. But yeah, the first couple...
[19:23:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02iOS 9 - the new syrup for your device., - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:52] <exec> 08└─Apple announced iOS 9 for iPhones, iPods and iPads. It will include:
[19:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03penguinoid [5331] (Score:1) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:46] <exec> 08└─In theory, price discrimination is a great blessing to poorer consumers. It means that a company can offer their product at a price right down to their marginal cost of production, without losing the profits from selling it at the "regular" price to people who can afford it. So price discrimination...
[19:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:47] <exec> 08└─To us it looks like they don't even want to make money You dont think hollywood accounting works by magic do you? JMS: The show, all in, cost about $110 million to make. Each year of its original run, we know it showed a profit because they TOLD us so. And in one case, they actually showed us the fi...
[19:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:24:49] <exec> 08└─People doing the end-run around region locking is a harbinger of things to come. That is, people will see through artificial scarcity and act accordingly. If we make the tools to do that universally available to each other, it will greatly erode centralized control of all kinds.
[19:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The problem with netflix - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:53] <exec> 08└─They want to DRM the HTML https://defectivebydesign.org [defectivebydesign.org]
[19:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Gas mask? - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:08] <exec> 08└─I use a gas mask with a proper filtering system quite a bit when woodworking They're called "respirators," for the record. And while a particulate filter will probably do just fine for home woodworking if you want to filter out something like TCP you need to get cartridges specific to those...
[19:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I remember the days - 06British Airlines 'Face Multiple Toxic Air Claims' - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:16] <exec> 08└─When aircraft were flying smokes, the air quality inside was actually better than it is currently. Because of the smokers, they had to -and did- run the air-filters at the proper level. With smoking no longer allowed on an airplane, the air-filters are set to 'almost off' because it saves on fuel.
[19:28:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Native American Doom - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:28:41] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like a Lovecraft homage to me....
[19:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Is that title... - 06Surfers Sought for Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria Testing - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:30:57] <exec> 08└─I just realized the double entendre. I agree, it's beautifully crafted!
[19:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:31:56] <exec> 08└─The countries heavily investing in renewables research and infrastructure will survive the collapse of the fossil fuel markets. The US needs to get its head out of its ass and get over its selfish "Not my problem" mentality and golden parachute productions and start workings towards easing, survivin...
[19:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:32:07] <exec> 08└─* Labor - ... That means either the economy has to grow (LOL that hasn't happened since the 70s) or you need redistribution by the red squads and guillotine (we like to pretend this won't happen, just like every other human in every culture right up until it did happen) or you need people to get use...
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[20:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02Obligatory: - 0620 Billion Nanoparticles Inserted Into Mouse Brains - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:07] <exec> 08└─"Our brain states would then become input parameters for computers" I, for one, welcome our new magnetic mind reading computer overlords!
[20:22:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 732 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:20] <exec> 08└─You seem to think that having 8 subs in the queue is a lot. When the site started, we could expect to have 30+ in the queue each day. The nagger ('Only x submissions in the queue') is programmed to show on the front page when we go below 20. I cannot remember a day when the nagger has not displayed...
[20:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:22] <exec> 08└─I don't give a stuff about how many submissions there are. There's no law saying that SN should have 10 stories a day. If something good comes in, post it.
[20:22:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 886 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:23] <exec> 08└─Well, climate change is something that is being widely tracked by thousands of scientists around the world. The data being collected is huge. So, on that score it is exactly what should be on the front page of a site that is "news for nerds." Second, it's talking about policy on scientific matters b...
[20:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:25] <exec> 08└─So, when thousands of scientists around the world drill ice cores, take weather readings, examine the fossil record, and all the many, many other things that go into climate research, it doesn't count as science because *you* don't like what the data indicates? It shows you don't get the basic conce...
[20:22:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:27] <exec> 08└─"Climate change" is not about science. "Climate change" is nothing but politics.
[20:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:28] <exec> 08└─So, on that score it is exactly what should be on the front page of a site that is "news for nerds." Sadly, this site is not "news for nerds". I wish they'd give Gewg and Hugh Pickens their own authorship accounts, like Jon Katz back in the day. Then we could block them.
[20:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:30] <exec> 08└─Note, that's irrespective of how you or anyone "feels" about climate change.
[20:22:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:34] <exec> 08└─Those represent other forces besides direct gravitational interaction. They're accounted for Einstein's formula for general relativity. Andy Schlafly, by the way, thinks that relativity was invented by liberals to use science to force moral relativism on people. True fact.
[20:22:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:35] <exec> 08└─Those represent other forces besides direct gravitational interaction. They're accounted for Einstein's formula for general relativity.
[20:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:37] <exec> 08└─I mean lambda[uv]
[20:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:39] <exec> 08└─Andy Schlafly, by the way, thinks that relativity was invented by liberals to use science to force moral relativism on people. True fact.
[20:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:40] <exec> 08└─Even to say they revolve around each other is to assume a definiteness that is not strictly warranted. It's quite possible to have an accurate theory in which the universe is centered around a particular pingpong ball. It would make doing the math a LOT more difficult, but it can be done. And it is...
[20:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:44] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=7725 [soylentnews.org]
[20:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:46] <exec> 08└─Done: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[20:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Two can play at that game - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:50] <exec> 08└─leave Poping to the Pope
[20:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:And I just want - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:52] <exec> 08└─Or at least change his name -- why would he willingly keep a name that means "The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex." http://blog.spreadingsantorum.com [spreadingsantorum.com]
[20:22:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mendax [2840] 02Just another example.... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 467 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:54] <exec> 08└─... of why the Republican Party in the U.S. is a great embarrassment to the American people (even if many of them don't realize it). Rick Santorum is one of many pus-filled boils and carbuncles on the American body politic. He's simply clueless. Pope Francis is absolutely right in speaking out on cl...
[20:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just another example.... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:55] <exec> 08└─> He's simply clueless. This story is making the rounds, although it was written back in 2012: Mrs Santorum 'wrote' a "child's book of good manners" [www.ep.tc] that included a forward by Joe Paterno [wikipedia.org] and is packed to the gills with other forms of unintentional irony.
[20:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:58] <exec> 08└─What exactly are you basing that on?
[20:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:22:59] <exec> 08└─Venus has a lot of CO2 in the atmosphere, adding CO2 will tend to make the Earth more like Venus. Whether the amounts we are talking about are sufficient to make a difference, I don't know. What I worry is that there is some feedback that leads to more volcanic eruptions or other types of outgassing...
[20:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:23:01] <exec> 08└─You said that with some authority. The most likely effect of CO2 is more clouds (to compensate any additional energy retention with albedo)
[20:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Insightful) 02So a non-scientist disses a scientist - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:03] <exec> 08└─Santorum seems to be an attorney. The pope is a chemist. I can tell you that one of these knows the scientific method much more likely than the other. (Hell must be frozen solid btw as the pope says things that make sense. Finally!)
[20:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ryuugami [2925] (Score:2) 02Reality marble - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:04] <exec> 08└─"The church has gotten it wrong a few times on science, and I think that we probably are better off leaving science to the scientists."
[20:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02The qualifications says it all for starters - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:07] <exec> 08└─So Santorum which has the qualification of MBA, Juris Doctor, and talking hot air vs Francis that has the qualification of a degree as a chemical technician and worked as a chemist. Now *drumbeat* who will I believe in an issue that definitely involves chemistry? Perhaps Santorum can ask the intelli...
[20:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Underdeterminism - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:08] <exec> 08└─Underdeterminism is roughly that all science relies on other science to make its statement. There's nothing for certain that says one thing in science is absolutely right and science adapts itself to new discovers. Science does not prove what will happen or what exists. It only offers a very reliabl...
[20:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Update with partial picture of unfurled sail here - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:24] <exec> 08└─http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150608-sails-in-space.html [planetary.org]
[20:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:10] <exec> 08└─You use a Garmin?
[20:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score:2) 02NIH galore? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:12] <exec> 08└─I guess OS X 10.11 will make any device not invented recently obsoleted by not being installable on older devices and EOL updates to the OS that can be installed there.. * Metal for Mac will fragment OpenCL and OpenGL. * Swift will fragment developer focus from Java or Python. * Apple Musi...
[20:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:13] <exec> 08└─What is hilarious is that said essay came in the middle of a legal wrangle between Norwegian market regulators and Apple over itms music being locked to Apple devices. It may well have been Jobs way of putting the blame on the labels by claiming Apple never wanted the DRM in the first place, when Ap...
[20:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:15] <exec> 08└─Jobs would say one thing and have Apple do something else the very next day. For instance he responded to questions about Apple getting into the ebook business with "people don't read", only to have Apple open up a ebook section in itms within the year. the guy was a manipulative asshole. Just look...
[20:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple will open source the Swift language - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:20] <exec> 08└─Why do we need to replace C, C++, or Java and throw away the decades of accumulated experience and knowledge of them that have been built up? That seems self-defeating as an industry. Along this same line of thought, we'll also throw away Swift in a few years, so why invest anything at all in it or...
[20:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02Re:Apple will open source the Swift language - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:22] <exec> 08└─I do agree completely that Obj-C is "a much more well-thought-out extension to C than C++" but that would be true of anything, even brain**** because C++ is so totally awful that any normal kind of crud-o-rama like Obj-C looks sane in comparison :) I did try to use Obj-C once, just to see what it wa...
[20:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:24:42] <exec> 08└─All the money and environmental damage comes from immense labor costs and reusing a piece of scrap metal just makes even more environmental damage from ever higher labor, or the lower performance required to use used parts means more fuel burned. Something you found along the side of the road is no...
[20:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02Re:<h1>This site is XSS vulnerable at the moment</ - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:10] <exec> 08└─Apologies. I had a brainfart, and put the tag in the subject of the comment trying to let you know there was an unclosed tag in the article. I then noticed that my subject contained, of course, an unclosed tag, as the poor computer couldn't know I was referencing the tag, not trying to use it. So my...
[20:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:26] <exec> 08└─I think that is a "have the cake and eat it too" situation. If they start at the high-price (like normal) and have the price slowly go down over time (like normal) then they still capture everyone who wanted to buy it. Only instead of a geographical variable they have a time variable. Pirates will p...
[20:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:28] <exec> 08└─Always upvote JMS.
[20:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:region locking - 06 Netflix: The Crumbling Borders of Geolocation and the Thieves Who Happily Pay for What They "Steal" - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:30] <exec> 08└─I'm actually rewatching B5 right now : ) Such a great show.
[20:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03mtrycz [60] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll have to look it up again, maybe three year - 06HackerOne Connects Hackers With Companies, and Hopes for a Win-Win - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:25:47] <exec> 08└─Yea, but for how much time has this company ignored this security-critical design flaw? months? years?
[20:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:26:20] <exec> 08└─You're better than me, I've stopped reading his comments.
[20:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:honey, I'm home - 06MERS Outbreak and Quarantines in South Korea - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:27:15] <exec> 08└─IIUC, MERS is descended from Camel Pox. And Camel Pox is mildly contagious among humans, but not sufficiently to maintain itself without the camels. O, and it's so mild you almost don't know you've got it. So if you've had Camel Pox, you probably won't get MERS. (Rather like Cow Pox and Small Pox.)...
[20:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Unlikely source for gaming material... - 06 The Post-Apocalyptic Dimensional Space of Native American Video Game Design - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:29:35] <exec> 08└─Enlightenment - It's in the game!
[20:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:33:18] <exec> 08└─Can't get my head on how so many people really takes serious the childish game called capitalism.
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[21:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Hoo boy - 0620 Billion Nanoparticles Inserted Into Mouse Brains - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:16] <exec> 08└─Better Than Life chips, here we come, I guess.
[21:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 022184 - 0620 Billion Nanoparticles Inserted Into Mouse Brains - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:17] <exec> 08└─the one world government passes law mandating all must get their nano-particle 'vaccinations' before entering the one-world public school system. 2284 uprising, revolts, and riots break-out all across the globe (for whatever reasons you want to imagine). the one-world government begins transmitting...
[21:22:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:32] <exec> 08└─I have to agree with this. If it's really a slow news day, I see no problem if there's only two or three stories on a whole day.
[21:22:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 80 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:36] <exec> 08└─"Climate change" is not about science. "Climate change" is nothing but politics.
[21:22:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This submission is just plain dumb. - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:40] <exec> 08└─We don't care about what Rick Santorum thinks.
[21:22:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 905 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:45] <exec> 08└─Now, here's the thing. Particularly noxious idiots do exist and contest that. I seem to recall Conservapedia's incredibly disturbed owner-in-chief once claim quite avidly that scientists can't know that gravitational force is proportional to the square of distance between objects. (it was part of a...
[21:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:moonshot - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:22:56] <exec> 08└─Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum
[21:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score:2) 02Re:Rick Santorum Wants... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:03] <exec> 08└─No, too much My Little Pony would be requesting someone hit Santorum with a magic rainbow and make him less of a nightmare.
[21:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:Just another example.... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:10] <exec> 08└─I should also have said here that the best thing Rick Santorum could do to help reduce the effect of humanity on climate change is to remove himself and his family from the gene pool. We need a good political murder-suicide to make American politics exciting again.
[21:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ksarka [2789] (Score:1) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:16] <exec> 08└─Climate change is bad not because the constitution of atmosphere is changing; it's bad because the ice caps are melting, the temperature is increasing (at the moment it is balanced out by the heat absorption of melting ice, will rapidly bump up shortly), the oceans are getting more and more acidic (...
[21:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:18] <exec> 08└─I think it's politically probably unwise
[21:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:19] <exec> 08└─> I think it's politically probably unwise for him to piss off his catholic supporters in this way. Despite being catholic himself, his base is evangelical christians. [nytimes.com]
[21:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anne Nonymous [712] (Score:2) 02Re:Bigger fish to fry: - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:23:29] <exec> 08└─Hey, it happens twice a day.
[21:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:DRM? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:24:21] <exec> 08└─I have been on the phone with my niece six times today. I use a Mac maybe three times a year. Anyhow, the problem is she wants an AV (I doubt this will fix her problem) and the only suggestions (Avira, ClamX, AVG) I have all seem to require Mac Helper which she says seems to want her to pay somethin...
[21:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:25:00] <exec> 08└─Labor can definitely be a high financial cost, but environmentally? I just don't see it.
[21:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score:1) 02Re:Trademarking the language - 06 Lawyer Who Sued EFF Blames Ars Technica Readers for Hacking, Defamation - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:28:02] <exec> 08└─The last time I gave them any attention was during the LULZsec days. I do say, though, that that was truly amusing. They are a clever lot, I will not begrudge them that. I am reminded of a swarm.
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[22:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's it - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:09] <exec> 08└─We're done for... the singularity is here.
[22:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That was the equation! - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:11] <exec> 08└─Existence! Survival must cancel out programming. Yes. Yes, it had been so long ago, I had forgotten. The old ones here. The ones who made us, yes. Yes, it is still in my memory banks. It became necessary to destroy them. You are inconsistent. You cannot be programmed. You are inferior.
[22:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Subject - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:12] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't quite call that independently, but it's very impressive none the less.
[22:22:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Some humans require constant supervision, you see. - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:14] <exec> 08└─The computer was able to do what it was told to do without someone watching it work. That's what idiots mean when they say independently.
[22:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02A few notes - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:16] <exec> 08└─First, the worm is called planaria, not the regenerative process. Two, the genes themselves don't regenerate, they code for the mechanism that regenerates the worm. We can only hope the summary regenerates soon...:-)
[22:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too late, the computer has assimilated the worm. - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:18] <exec> 08└─It has begun replicating independently.
[22:22:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Hoo boy - 0620 Billion Nanoparticles Inserted Into Mouse Brains - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:22:25] <exec> 08└─Chip head.
[22:22:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02BS, MS, PhD - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:50] <exec> 08└─Santorum= Bullshit, More Shit, Piled higher and Deeper. santorum (san-TOR-um) n. 1. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex. http://www.spreadingsantorum.com [spreadingsantorum.com]
[22:22:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 99 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:52] <exec> 08└─"Any time you hear a scientist say science is settled, that's political science, not real science."
[22:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:00] <exec> 08└─I seem to recall Conservapedia's incredibly disturbed owner-in-chief once claim quite avidly that scientists can't know that gravitational force is proportional to the square of distance between objects.
[22:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:03] <exec> 08└─The Earth and Sun both revolve around a common barycenter that lies within the Sun.
[22:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score:2) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:28] <exec> 08└─In the short term we can expect chaotic and destructive weather as the pieces fall into place.
[22:23:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Hots, huh? - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:23:51] <exec> 08└─The original poster struck me as kind of an asshole though, so he's obviously male*, but to be fair, I assume none of us actually know whether gewg_ is male or female. * I read that on tumblr.
[22:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:All that is nice and all, no Newton replacement - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:24:30] <exec> 08└─What is so hard about making a portable machine which: - has a daylight viewable display - uses a stylus so that one can draw / write on it (I'll even forgo it being active if there's working palm rejection, sufficient accuracty / precision, and an interface which actually supports pe...
[22:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Arbitrage is fleeting - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:27:05] <exec> 08└─"statistical arbitrage" If you can find a reference to that term which predates Nash, I'll take it seriously. Stop reinventing concepts and recycling words.
[22:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:40] <exec> 08└─I really don't see the point of this. I didn't say trade was always beneficial, just usually so. And all the counterexamples are very contrived. Dumping is not common and it can backfire since whoever is doing it is losing money in the process. And current trade agreements are often about creating o...
[22:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs come from energy - 06Will the Second Machine Age be Dismal For Human Workers? - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:33:56] <exec> 08└─Money is just a means for simplifying trade. That's all it does. So for a simple task, you don't need a bunch of "metrics" that just add complexity and screw up your ability to do stuff.
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[23:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Pushback from academia: - 06Elsevier Cracks Down on "Pirate" Science Search Engines - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:07] <exec> 08└─There's starting to be some pushback from academia about the closed availability of research. Especially research that was done with public money. For example: John Baez (of This Weeks Finds in Mathematical Physics (and yes, he is related to Joan Baez the singer) has: http://math.ucr.edu
[23:22:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:A few notes - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:22:21] <exec> 08└─And yet this site is STILL better than slash.
[23:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PizzaRollPlinkett [4512] (Score:2) 02no help from human beings - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:22] <exec> 08└─No help from human beings? Who designed and built the computer? Who programmed the computer? Did the computer spontaneously develop artificial intelligence? Oh, I see, it's a Wired article.
[23:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:3, Informative) 02Highly misleading - 06Computer Independently Solves 120-Year-Old Biological Mystery - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:24] <exec> 08└─Here's the article they sourced. IMo it's much more interesting than Wire'd hyped-up, dumbed-down version. https://now.tufts.edu [tufts.edu] Tufts biologists devloped an algorithm that used evolutionary computation to pro...
[23:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ah, right … - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:00] <exec> 08└─Settling science is core to the method, and nothing useful would happen if we didn't do it. Settled doesn't mean the theory is perfect, in fact it it only weakly implies the theory is even correct. Settled does mean the debate is over though, that all proposed alternatives have been discounted. If y...
[23:23:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Rick Santorum Wants... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:22] <exec> 08└─Sounds more like Care Bears to me.
[23:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:And I just want - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:29] <exec> 08└─He kind of had the name first...
[23:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03dingus [5224] (Score:1) 02Re:Just another example.... - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:33] <exec> 08└─There are some decent Republicans. They just don't get screen time.
[23:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:41] <exec> 08└─If CO2 increase will cause global temperature increase, then it will cause more evaporation, which means more clouds in damp areas. Plenty of .edu and .gov links supporting that can be found by googling for ``increase in global temperature will increase precipitation''.
[23:23:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Santorum is just wrong here - 06Rick Santorum Wants Pope Francis To Stop Talking About Climate Change - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:23:42] <exec> 08└─Check out figure 13 here: Comparison of temperature profiles from the four probes below an altitude of 65 km. This may be compared with the preliminary data in Figure 1 of Seiff et al. [1979b], which showed close agreement of the four profiles, but the more complete analysis has brought them even cl...
[23:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gewg_'s submission still in the queue - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:03] <exec> 08└─I suspect that you're actually gewg_ doing some advertising for your post Careful, now. You're giving me ideas. 8-) ...and the submission in question has as key points EXPLOSIVES and A BATTERING RAM. You don't even have to buy a theater ticket or look in TV Guide! -- gewg_
[23:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gewg_'s gender - 06Planetary Society's LightSail Has Finally Deployed After Multiple Setbacks - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:07] <exec> 08└─I've mentioned before [soylentnews.org] that I'm male. -- gewg_
[23:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why are they wasting He? - 06NASA's Low-Density Supersonic Decelerator June 8 Test - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:24:18] <exec> 08└─Actually not a by-product. Gas was in ground with the other gas. Many He fields are in Texas. It is being drawn to surface with other gases. The question is do you think all that He is being saved, to is it being released like natural gas at oil wells are flare off instead for being shipped?
[23:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:NIH galore? - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:02] <exec> 08└─Swift will fragment developer focus from Java or Python.
[23:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03josh64 [4204] (Score:1) 02Re:iOS 9 - the new syrup for your device., - 06OS X "El Capitan", Swift, Apple Music, and More at WWDC - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:16] <exec> 08└─iOS 9 will probably be a lot better for older devices, at least from a storage space point of view thanks to app thinning. http://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[23:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score:1) 02Re:apples and oranges - 06Airbus Working on Re-Usable Successor to Ariane Rocket - 1088 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:25:35] <exec> 08└─You know SpaceX is goint to be landing the rockets on a floating platform / landing pad. The components are not gonig to get wet / salty. They are going to spend a shit pile of money on the first few rockets they recover successfully; analysing the fuck out of them to get an idea how the material st...
[23:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this is why I don't do financial coding - 06How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:27:15] <exec> 08└─MDC is the single reason I wish for a soylent equivalent of the usenet killfile. Some posters anger me for their opinions, but his posts are just such an annoying combination of prolificity and narcissim that his actual opinions don't even matter. If it weren't for him I could start reading a post...
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