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[00:02:05] <FatPhil> Does he think I would claim to have air-cooked it at sauna temperatures had I underwater-cooked it at sauna tempertures? Is he calling me a liar?
[00:08:40] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[00:08:43] <systemd> ^ 03McConnell believes impeachment push will help rid Trump from the GOP, but has not said if he will vote to convict
[00:08:46] <Bytram> https://www.nytimes.com
[00:08:48] <systemd> ^ 03Live Updates: On Eve of House Vote, McConnell Is Said to Be Pleased About Effort to Impeach Trump ( https://www.nytimes.com )
[00:09:09] <Bytram> https://www.nytimes.com
[00:09:11] <systemd> ^ 03Live Updates: On Eve of House Vote, McConnell Is Said to Be Pleased About Effort to Impeach Trump
[00:20:55] <FatPhil> I dont' see any actual mitch quotes in those articles, merely paraphrasing, so I'm not considering that evidence of the sentiment. CNN and NYT are known for distorting things somewhat, in particular near their black hole of repulsion, Trump.
[00:27:00] <Runaway1956_> Snowqualmie pass sees 23 inches of snow in 24 hours, and I'm wondering why that is news.
[00:27:12] <Runaway1956_> Shoulnd't be in any newsfeed, aside from local news
[00:28:15] <FatPhil> Because everything to do with Washington is important!!!!
[00:31:15] <Runaway1956_> Cute bug here - https://www.livescience.com
[00:31:16] <systemd> ^ 03Weirdo ancient beetle looks like a scrub brush
[03:49:51] <c0lo> FatPhil - my understanding was that the photo represents one of your past creation. While that was a mistaken understanding, bottom line it has nothing to do with the use of apo'str'ophe's.
[03:52:53] <c0lo> Just as you cooking in sauna or underwater is in no relation with calling (or not calling) you a liar. I can certainly do it anyway.
[05:05:58] <c0lo> On (channel) topic https://www.smh.com.au
[05:05:59] <systemd> ^ 03Capitol Hill riots: Trump impeachment backed by key House Republican
[05:10:47] <c0lo> https://www.sbs.com.au
[05:10:48] <systemd> ^ 03SBS News
[05:17:35] <c0lo> not disbarring him, but https://www.nbcnews.com
[05:17:36] <systemd> ^ 03New York State Bar Association moves to oust Rudy Giuliani
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[05:40:54] <aristarchus> Trump is impeached a second time. Historical first. Maximal losing! Even if not convicted.
[05:52:24] <Runaway1956_> *yawn*
[05:52:47] <Runaway1956_> Dems wasting time on some kind of stupid show, instead of anything meaningful.
[06:09:30] <c0lo> As opposed to Trump who wasted time on something as meaningless as his narcissistic self?
[06:11:33] <c0lo> At least Dems continue the policy line instead of undoing what the predecessor did.
[08:22:25] <aristarchus> Non-trump supporters who supported insurrection will be subject to criminal prosecution. Just saying.
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[09:21:49] <FatPhil> c0lo: Biden's already said that on his very first day in office, he's going to just undo a lot of shit that Trump did.
[09:22:44] <FatPhil> However, the things he'll be undoing will be things like the destruction of the EPA, so quite justifiable unless you're a libertardian who has no concept of externalities.
[09:23:26] <chromas> When you undo the undo
[09:24:33] <FatPhil> You can remove the need for such pettiness if the first thing you do is do away with the executive order, which is essentially a tool of dictatorship.
[09:25:28] <FatPhil> Of course, and democratic system that cannot vote in a dictator is an insufficiently democratic democracy.
[09:25:33] <FatPhil> s/and/any/
[09:25:33] <SedBot> <FatPhil> Of course, any democratic system that cannot vote in a dictator is an insufficiently democratic democracy.
[09:45:10] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:45:12] <systemd> ^ 03Trump vs Talking Heads - Swedemason
[10:12:36] <FatPhil> chromas++ now that's good
[10:12:36] <Bender> karma - chromas: 2
[10:42:20] <c0lo> FatPhil if Biden start his term on a "It's all about Trump", he and the usains are proper fucked.
[10:42:57] <FatPhil> git reset --hard Obama
[10:43:50] <FatPhil> A lot of the executive orders Trump pooped out were terrible, simply reversing those won't cause too many ripples.
[10:44:15] <FatPhil> If, however, he reverses things simply because they were Trump's, then he's no better than Trump.
[10:46:06] <FatPhil> It's a great way for introducing both positive feedback and noise into the system. So if all we care about is the US blowing its amps all Hendrix style, those of us who are watching it on telly are up for a pretty good show.
[10:55:52] <c0lo> With China practicing wolf warrior diplomacy, the attractivity of the show not gonna last long.
[10:56:12] <c0lo> =w wolf warrior diplomacy
[10:56:13] <systemd> Wolf warrior diplomacy (Chinese: 战狼外交; pinyin: zhànláng wàijiāo) describes an aggressive style of diplomacy purported to be adopted by Chinese diplomats - https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:57:15] <c0lo> First thing to fall - the videocards for gaming or crypto mining in Taiwan.
[11:05:42] <FatPhil> Sure, I've been saying for a long time that we should get tough on china, and tough on the causes of china. Unfortunately hipsters want their new iPhones every 6 months, and Apple wants maximised profits every 6 nanoseconds, so that ain't going to happen.
[11:07:28] <FatPhil> I will confess that I did like some of Trump's anti-China moves. It's just that he kept flipflopping seemingly almost monthly. Make a problem, solve a problem, make a problem, solve a problem, ...
[11:09:07] <c0lo> China has been a nice player until their Winnie-the-pooh.
[11:09:51] <FatPhil> Oh, he's a player, alright. He's a great player. Outplayed almost every country they've dealt with.
[11:10:30] <c0lo> Nah. Just irritated them.
[11:10:55] <FatPhil> Irrigated most of them, from a great height.
[11:11:19] <c0lo> Their biggest former partner, now almost enemy is India.
[11:11:39] <FatPhil> Lots of African countries thought they were playing Hungry Hippos as Xi was playing Risk.
[11:12:57] <c0lo> True. But Xi shoulda've waited until the foothold in Africa was better established. Probs 15 more years.
[11:14:24] <c0lo> As of now, the chinese foot in Africa will slip - not enough dependency on the Chinese teat for the African hippo.
[11:15:34] <c0lo> The hippos can say today "what do I have to lose if I fuck you? Some roads and mines?"
[11:15:57] <FatPhil> I reckon his claws in africa are way deeper than most people realise - they're deep into the infrastructure now, and the plug can no longer be pulled
[11:16:25] <c0lo> 15 years more, the younger hippos would have made an entire new generation.
[11:16:29] <FatPhil> they lose means of production
[11:16:51] <FatPhil> which means they lose production
[11:17:02] <c0lo> The older hippo boses won't hesitate.
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[11:28:49] <c0lo> The financial situation of some countries in Africa https://www.chathamhouse.org
[11:28:51] <systemd> ^ 03China’s Southern Africa Debt Deals Reveal a Wider Plan
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[11:29:53] <c0lo> Note the << ‘high risk’ or ‘debt distress’ with Chinese lending to them>>
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[11:36:13] <c0lo> Also note the Congo hippos - there be cobalt mines, islamic insurgency and, occasionaly, ebola. Needless to say the chinese invested in the first https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:36:13] <systemd> ^ 03China–Democratic Republic of the Congo relations - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
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[16:22:13] <FatPhil> US Capitol insurrectionists = Our politicians resist cunts (anagram)
[19:17:00] <FatPhil> So, what's going on in Impeachyland today?
[19:18:09] <FatPhil> We disolved our govt today, as our PM was involved in a corruption scandal, and the constitution says when the PM steps down, the whole government is nullified. A new coalition will need to be formed, probably from completely different parties.
[19:19:31] <FatPhil> PM because head because the guy before him was corrupt AF, and they promised to drain the swamp. Clearly that never happened. How surprising. Shocked, I tell you.
[21:40:03] <FatPhil> So, 6 pugs joined the bundle: https://www.bbc.com
[21:40:04] <systemd> ^ 03Trump impeached for 'inciting' US Capitol riots
[21:40:52] <Bytram> https://www.cnet.com
[21:40:53] <systemd> ^ 03Donald Trump impeached following deadly riot at US Capitol
[21:41:22] <FatPhil> I'm glad McCarthy said "The president bears responsibility for Wednesday's attack on Congress by mob rioters." - hopefully that can be leveraged in a criminal court rather than the play court you call the senate.
[21:45:23] <chromas> so when are they shutting down the twitter?
[21:49:35] <FatPhil> Can it self-destruct amusingly?
[23:57:21] Adhominem is now known as chud