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[01:05:33] <omgwtf> this is how you make radicals who support killing democrats instead of just going to rallies
[01:05:43] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[01:05:50] <omgwtf> smh
[01:06:10] <omgwtf> where does this stop?
[01:06:55] <omgwtf> kick off all the trump supporters from every flight and how long do you think it'll be before planes start falling outta the sky and none of the magas shed a tear because they're not allowed to fly anyway? they'll be all "nobody good died yo"
[01:08:06] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
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[01:18:54] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[01:31:19] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[01:31:58] <omgwtf> There are rumors about that Trump triggered the Insurrection Act today, but no hard evidence.
[01:31:58] <omgwtf> On the other hand, I’d expect patriots might first hear of it from some Mil Intel guy sent to drop the dime on 4Chan.
[01:32:25] <omgwtf> yeah speaking of rumors do we know that nancy pelosi's laptop really was stolen?
[01:33:21] <chromas> dunno but we did see a photo of supposedly-her desktop pc running Outlook
[01:34:24] <omgwtf> that looked like it was a pair of staffer's desks on either side of the room tho
[01:34:45] <chromas> either way, evidence tainted
[01:34:54] <omgwtf> the desk the dude had his feet up on looked like it was a bigass monitor on top of something that might have been a laptop
[01:36:07] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[01:36:20] <omgwtf> that's not really confirmation tho is it?
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[01:41:58] <chromas> some rando on twitter? seems legit
[01:43:07] <c0lo> Trump can't trigger shit nowadays
[01:45:59] <omgwtf> if he's got nancy's laptop i'm thinkin he can do more than trigger her
[01:46:29] <omgwtf> too bad he didn't get mitch mcconnell's too
[01:56:55] <c0lo> By the output above that you got from the whatever mental process, I can tell it's not thinking
[01:58:01] <c0lo> Fantasizing or deluding yourself is more likely.
[02:03:33] <omgwtf> k
[02:03:41] <omgwtf> so explain this plz
[02:03:46] <omgwtf> https://www.whitehouse.gov
[02:03:46] <systemd> ^ 03Access Denied
[02:05:30] <requerdanos> I can explain that one, easy. It means THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT BEEN "SILENCED" AND IN FACT HAS HIS OWN FREAKING WEBSITE.
[02:05:38] <requerdanos> witness the post made therein.
[02:08:01] <c0lo> Trigger https://thehill.com
[02:08:02] <systemd> ^ 03DC mayor extends emergency declaration until day after Biden's inauguration
[02:08:35] <c0lo> Approval by Trump = he can't say no.
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[02:57:17] <c0lo> I guess we are gonna see how much control Biden has over his minions https://www.businessinsider.com.au
[02:57:18] <systemd> ^ 03Joe Biden wants to go big with a multi-trillion-dollar stimulus package. But his economic agenda is about to collide against a Democratic drive to impeach Trump.
[03:15:32] <omgwtf> it's like biden is trying to do everything he can think of to piss off half the country
[03:15:40] <omgwtf> https://bigleaguepolitics.com
[03:15:41] <systemd> ^ 03ATF Swamp Creatures are Working Behind the Scenes With the Biden Transition Team to Implement Gun Grabs - Big League Politics
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[03:55:41] <c0lo> It's like what bigleaguepolitics want you to see the situation. Because fear helps the bottom line https://www.newstimes.com
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[05:46:55] <chromas> The lefty version would be biglypolitics.com
[06:48:14] <Runaway1956> Well, c0lo I've bought 67 or 68 guns since Obama was elected. You're not suggesting I've wasted my money?
[06:48:38] <Runaway1956> I can arm my own company now, except for a cannon.
[06:49:11] <Runaway1956> With my own cannon, we could be "heavily armed"!
[06:49:50] <Runaway1956> You think maybe the Brits have any surplus Screw Guns left?
[06:50:31] <Runaway1956> https://www.poemhunter.com
[06:50:32] <systemd> ^ 03Screw-Guns Poem by Rudyard Kipling - Poem Hunter
[06:57:54] <c0lo> Runaway1956 - yes, you have wasted your money. The outcome of having them is the same as building many slingshots, minus the fun Joel has had in building them.
[06:59:06] <c0lo> s/Joel/Joerg Sprave/
[06:59:07] <SedBot> <c0lo> Runaway1956 - yes, you have wasted your money. The outcome of having them is the same as building many slingshots, minus the fun Joerg Sprave has had in building them.
[09:17:38] <FatPhil> The Little Britain USA clip I posted seems even more appropriate now
[12:08:28] <chromas> Did it somehow become a funny show?
[12:55:31] <Bytram> https://www.aljazeera.com
[12:55:32] <systemd> ^ 03Deutsche Bank halts business with Trump over Capitol assault: NYT
[12:56:16] <Bytram> 'cept Trump prolly still has to pay back any outstanding loans
[13:05:53] <progo> are you thinking of running in the opposition party in 2024? you'd better not. we'll destroy you, all of your businesses, and your family
[13:38:07] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[13:38:10] <systemd> ^ 03Deutsche Bank won't do any more business with Trump
[13:38:58] <chromas> "Go start your own bank!"
[13:40:09] <Bytram> https://www.nytimes.com
[13:40:11] <systemd> ^ 03Deutsche Bank Staff Saw Suspicious Activity in Trump and Kushner Accounts (Published 2019)
[13:43:45] <Bytram> https://www.aljazeera.com
[13:43:47] <systemd> ^ 03Trump’s speech that ‘incited’ Capitol violence: Full transcript
[13:44:08] <requerdanos> why the scare quotes on "incited" I wonder.
[13:44:48] <Bytram> CYA?
[13:46:02] <requerdanos> Or repay favors; Trump has been working to resolve differences between Quatar and Saudi Arabia to Quatar's benefit, and Quatar owns Al Jazeera
[13:46:43] <Bytram> AIUI, there are a couple factors at play. Key, is did he know and *intend* for his speech to encourage an attack on the capitol?
[13:47:09] <Bytram> Hmm, interesting point!
[13:47:09] <FatPhil> He doesn't even know or intend what he's having for breakfast!
[13:48:11] <requerdanos> I don't think his intentions matter, for the reason FatPhil is citing.
[13:48:19] <FatPhil> scare quotes are valid, as whether it's incidement to violence is a matter for discussion, some say he did, some say he didn't, so some use the word, some don't use the word.
[13:48:31] <Bytram> Well, lunch is a given... hamburger! ;^) /me has no idea but has seen some reports... or was it cheeseburgers?
[13:48:37] <requerdanos> rather, could a reasonable person have concluded that it was a violence-inciting thing to do to say "let's march on the capitol now"
[13:48:39] <FatPhil> insidement, upsidement, whatever
[13:49:12] <FatPhil> he definitely loves his junkburgers
[13:49:37] <Bytram> =g Trump burgers
[13:49:38] <systemd> https://www.bbc.com - Trump orders '300 burgers' to White House amid shutdown - BBC ...
[13:49:56] <Bytram> Now that is an appetite!
[13:50:05] <FatPhil> steaks well done, and with ketchup. I hear some top chefs have said that they wouldn't even let him eat at their restaurant as it's an insult to their kitchen to satisfy his order.
[13:50:23] <Bytram> cite?
[13:50:28] <requerdanos> if you overcook a steak to well done, in his defense, it needs ketchup to be edible
[13:50:33] <chromas> —Twitter
[13:50:39] <requerdanos> :)
[13:50:43] <FatPhil> probably one of the shouty english TV ones
[13:50:53] <Bytram> Not arguing, would love confirmation.
[13:51:07] <chromas> Why even cook it at all? Just shove the red into your mouth whole
[13:51:56] <requerdanos> it needs some cooking on the top and bottom to kill surface pathogens, and for texture for chewing (raw soft steak is hard to chew). Plus, tastes better warm.
[13:52:34] <chromas> just microwave it for two minutes ;)
[13:52:39] <FatPhil> the closest I can find is Anthony Bourdain
[13:53:26] <chromas> by the lack of response, I assume you had to go leave your pc and go scream out the window
[13:53:30] <FatPhil> “Donald Trump likes his steak well done so I’d serve him tartare in large quantities,”
[13:54:15] <requerdanos> I just don't think microwaving it would kill those surface pathogens quite like a hot searing pan will.
[13:55:04] <FatPhil> Whenever we buy steak, we'll always buy a cut that we can tartare - if it's not edible raw, it's not a good enough cut.
[13:55:06] <chromas> fine then boil it
[13:55:30] <requerdanos> boiling it doesn't get a maillard reaction browning, and so is fine but doesn't taste as good.
[13:55:44] <chromas> blanch it so it doesn't cook all the way because you don't want it well-done
[13:55:51] <FatPhil> boiling ruins good steak meat, you heathen.
[13:56:00] <chromas> whatever, browning it generates carcinogens
[13:56:03] <requerdanos> I have legit eaten steak cooked that way, blanched so the outside is down.
[13:56:10] <FatPhil> there's always soud vide, of course
[13:56:10] <requerdanos> *yummy carcinogens
[13:56:14] <FatPhil> sous
[13:56:23] <chromas> -aphone
[13:56:24] <FatPhil> carcinogens++
[13:56:24] <Bender> karma - carcinogens: 1
[13:56:30] <chromas> cancer++
[13:56:30] <Bender> karma - cancer: 1
[13:58:51] <FatPhil> of all of the environmental causes of cancer, seared meat is one of the irrelevantly minor ones. OR of about 1.001 probably. Completely worth ignoring.
[13:59:08] <FatPhil> If you're banning seared meat, you're banning toast 100-fold.
[13:59:20] <FatPhil> So how about you start with toast?
[13:59:27] <chromas> how about fuck you?
[13:59:44] <chromas> nobody better lay a finger on my fingertoast
[13:59:58] * Bytram raises a toast to toast!
[14:13:17] <requerdanos> You could boil the toast, or microwave it.
[14:27:50] <janrinok> sous vide
[14:28:39] <janrinok> sous vide does not give it the same flavour that a quick sear does
[14:28:56] <FatPhil> At some point, we plan on trying steak sous vide in our sauna.
[14:28:57] <janrinok> but it is edible
[14:29:10] <FatPhil> you need a searing stage too, obviously
[14:29:59] <janrinok> steak sous vide alongside people lightly steamed? I don't see it catching on but I'll await the results of your experiment
[14:36:09] <Bytram> long pork?
[16:09:05] <c0lo> chromas++ "Why even cook it at all?" - that's "twitching blue"
[16:09:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 3
[16:09:24] <c0lo> chromas-- "fine then boil it" chromas--
[16:09:24] <Bender> karma - chromas: 2
[16:09:44] <c0lo> ^^ chromas--
[16:11:26] <c0lo> chromas-- "blanch it" you... you... Blasphemer!!! Ughrrrr!
[16:11:26] <Bender> karma - chromas: 1
[16:13:17] <c0lo> FatPhil - "we plan on trying steak sous vide in our sauna" not gonna work, but do try; for fun and waste
[16:24:41] <FatPhil> why wouldn't it work?
[16:31:03] <FatPhil> If this is "not working", I plan to fail bigly: http://3.bp.blogspot.com
[19:04:58] <janrinok> that looks good, I've got to admit it. But I wouldn't enjoy eating in a sauna - drinking certainly, but not munching on a steak. Just a personal thing I suppose.
[20:03:18] <FatPhil> it's the cooking you do in the sauna, not the eating generally. However, I have cooked sausages on the sauna stones in the past, and eaten them in situ. (You wrap them in foil, you don't want grease on the stones/element)
[20:29:38] <chromas> Just don't cook your meat and two veg
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[23:30:44] <c0lo> FatPhil, it'll take forever - the heat capacity of the air (even when humid) and its thermal conduction coeficient are abismally low in comparison with water
[23:32:57] <Runaway1956_> https://www.waynedupree.com
[23:32:58] <systemd> ^ 03Reporter Actually Did Some Digging and Uncovered a Big Surprise About Capitol Hill's "Viking Man" - WayneDupree.com
[23:33:24] <Runaway1956_> Buffalo Horn Man not MAGA at all? He's a Greta Thornburg fan instead.
[23:38:13] <FatPhil> c0lo: I'm not sure why you think it's impossible to bring water into a sauna. However, that photo I posted was one that was air-cooked.
[23:39:51] <requerdanos> wayne dupree dot com? follow wayne dupree on gab?
[23:40:55] <FatPhil> You also seem to be forgetting that the stove at 12kW pumps out enough energy to heat up >10m^2 of wood panelling to 90C, even at 1cm thick, that's a lot of mass that it can heat up. 500 grams more of flesh ain't gonna make much difference.
[23:48:48] <c0lo> FatPhil, bringing water in a sauna - yeah, right you can, but why when you can cook it in a kitchen while you take a sauna.
[23:50:55] <c0lo> Then, be honest, you didn't air-cook it at sauna temperatures.
[23:52:14] <requerdanos> Tonight's steak was pan-fried at gas-flame-under-the-pan temperature.
[23:52:54] <c0lo> Otherwise, feel free to run the experiment, what I said are feeling of (my educated) guts guesses.
[23:54:42] <FatPhil> Why are you talking about me doing something in the past tense that I've not done yet?
[23:55:19] <requerdanos> Looked like a mix of hypothetical conditional and trolling to me
[23:56:42] <FatPhil> there's teh conditional future tense "wouldn't've" rather than "didn't" for that use.
[23:57:03] <FatPhil> But why stop there - apostrophes everywhere! "you'dn't've"
[23:57:17] <requerdanos> Not everyone is careful with their verb tenses in informal speech and IRC writing. I mean, you know, some are...