#US_Election | Logs for 2021-01-06

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[00:09:59] <FatPhil> did she jump, or was she pushed?
[00:13:25] <FatPhil> fuck me, the GOP seems to be overrun by hairpulling schoolchildren.
[00:14:55] <FatPhil> "senator" is supposed to imply maturity. How wrong those romans were...
[00:18:33] <c0lo> GOP senator = senior enough to be bald from all hairpulling
[00:25:13] <FatPhil> If you're too senior, you eventually become senile. These guys got a head start.
[00:48:52] <c0lo> https://abcnews.go.com
[00:48:52] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate runoff election results 2021
[00:52:42] <requerdanos> I see early 9-10 point leads for the democratic candidates in these GA runoffs. That means if any republican wins, it can only be because of a "vote dump" of fraudulent republican votes, right?
[01:02:48] <FatPhil> maybe not taking a vote dump, but possibly wiping their arse on the allot papers.
[01:04:57] <c0lo> Are early/absentees voting counted late as per usual?
[01:10:29] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[01:10:33] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate runoff election: Live results and news
[01:10:44] <requerdanos> The counts listed at the abcnews link say "Total Estimated To Be Early/Absentee: 72%"
[01:10:50] <requerdanos> so looks like they are counting them first.
[01:11:10] <FatPhil> that depends on each state, so you'd have to delve into their own rules
[01:11:48] <FatPhil> I can't go from that data point to that conclusion.
[01:13:12] <Bytram> the APC link is just for GA
[01:13:27] <Bytram> the ABC link is just for GA
[01:14:16] <requerdanos> That's what I infer from the numbers, anyway; disclaimer, I am just some guy on the Internet and not affiliated with any official election system or organization
[01:14:42] <FatPhil> !socialist requerdanos
[01:14:47] <FatPhil> not sure what bot does that
[01:15:06] <requerdanos> so take with appropriately-sized grain/lick of salt available at your government salt dispersion centre.
[01:15:35] <FatPhil> Bytram: but does the ABC link say what their counting protocol is?
[01:15:54] <FatPhil> I'm trying to find a live site that doesn't require JS, which I think will be tricky..
[01:15:57] <Bytram> on phone
[01:16:07] <FatPhil> np
[01:16:41] <FatPhil> requerdanos: I've had enough salt today already - I discovered a stalagmite of it in my sauna earlier!
[01:17:38] <requerdanos> oh that's right, I forgot
[01:19:18] <c0lo> from the cnn link "94% of the vote we are seeing so far is from early voting, says CNN's David Chalian" so it seems they started withe the "early" first
[01:20:02] <FatPhil> 'Statewide, 74 percent of mail ballots have been processed' seems like early first too
[01:24:30] <FatPhil> My schadenfreud lobe will throb aggressively if Loeffler gets shat on from a great height - I don't think I've heard of her before, but she's been a professional gobshite for the last couple of months.
[01:24:33] <c0lo> https://www.independent.co.uk
[01:24:35] <systemd> ^ 03Page not found | The Independent
[01:25:13] <c0lo> https://www.independent.co.uk
[01:25:14] <systemd> ^ 03Mike Pence ‘has told Trump he cannot overturn election result’
[01:25:56] <c0lo> Sneaky... to tell him sooo late.
[01:27:33] <FatPhil> http://fatphil.org - like why is that the top US Politics story?
[01:28:03] <FatPhil> sentence is ambiguous - who is 'he' in that statement?
[01:28:55] <FatPhil> Ah, Pence.
[01:28:58] <c0lo> Sneaky Pence... to tell Trump sooo late.
[01:29:57] <c0lo> I suspect Trump is broken hearted now, even his vice dumped him.
[01:30:08] <FatPhil> Well, he never really did, in a functioning system. Safe harbour, and all that. (which is a stupid name)
[01:31:14] <c0lo> Well, no worries, Trump is still vicious enough, he'll mend.
[01:37:33] <c0lo> FatPhil, are you still twitter impaired?
[01:39:37] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[01:47:54] <FatPhil> that impaired, yes
[01:48:51] <FatPhil> your direct image link earlier worked. though
[01:49:22] <FatPhil> I'm on my phone with w3m as my browser in a terminal now, so don't worry about me.
[01:53:20] <c0lo> Yeah, but that's a vclip, I can't extricate it easily,
[01:55:09] <FatPhil> I can possibly still youtube-dl those tomorrow.
[01:57:55] <FatPhil> oooh, pugs catching up...
[01:59:58] <requerdanos> that's those 11th hour vote dumps I was warning you about.
[02:02:26] <Bytram> But it's only 9 PM!
[02:02:30] <FatPhil> I never doubted you on that - suitcases away!
[02:03:09] <FatPhil> evil timetravelling nazis on the moon interfering with the election!
[02:03:27] <requerdanos> well, can't argue with that.
[02:04:05] <FatPhil> Noooooo! Ask for proof! I have a spreadsheet with a graph!
[02:04:07] <Bytram> hover mouse pointer over a county to get the vote breakdown or that county. ( https://abcnews.go.com )
[02:04:08] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate runoff election results 2021
[02:04:46] <FatPhil> nytimes site kinda works for me on w3m, there is a table with breakdowns
[02:06:29] <c0lo> All that remained to be counted seems red.
[02:07:57] <FatPhil> DeKalb is only 27& cunted according to nyt, and was a D+ state
[02:08:20] <FatPhil> sorry that wwas a genuine typo, O'm on my phone
[02:09:56] <FatPhil> Cobb equally large - way bigger than the R+ states, also not far thru
[02:12:00] <c0lo> Bacon and Coffee counties. What a name.
[02:12:04] <FatPhil> there's a third huge D+ one too. maybe I'm misinterpretting what's being rendeed.
[02:14:22] <FatPhil> looks like Glascock's giving it to Loeffler, snigger.
[02:16:31] <FatPhil> getting sleepy - might have to go to the air-raid shelter to protect me from the drops
[02:21:08] <c0lo> DeKalb started to report.
[02:35:46] <c0lo> My feeling of guts, Loeffler is a goner.
[03:00:54] <Bytram> With 80% of expected vote counted, each Republican candidate has a 2-point lead over their Democratic challenger.
[03:13:03] <c0lo> Cobb, DeKalb - *at the current percentages*, will add about 300k to dems.
[03:13:45] <c0lo> Cobb is at 55% counted, DeKalb is at 37% counted
[03:47:11] <Bytram> g'night everybody.
[07:53:35] <FatPhil> wowsers, it's close, in particular the other race, .22 in the lead. 2% still to count
[07:56:52] <chromas> .22 vs .45?
[07:56:56] <FatPhil> NYT's tables indicate that the remaining D+ districts have way more still to count than the remaining R+ ones. So should be done and dusted.
[07:57:01] <chromas> The great American Debate
[07:57:03] <FatPhil> Xachary
[07:57:39] <FatPhil> tho in Loeffler's case it's 2 0.45s!
[08:03:00] <FatPhil> When Raphael Warnock was born, his senators were the segregationists Herman Talmadge and Richard Russell.
[08:03:17] <FatPhil> He will now be the first Black Senator from Georgia.
[08:03:47] <FatPhil> Loeffler refused to concede tonight, telling supporters: “We’re going to win this election.” But Warnock is ahead with most of the remaining vote in Democratic areas.
[08:04:06] <FatPhil> -- commentary from https://www.nytimes.com
[08:04:08] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate Runoff Election Results
[08:34:05] <c0lo> Well, GA is over.
[08:34:43] <c0lo> The goodbye party in DC is just warming up.
[08:35:03] <c0lo> https://www.whitehouse.gov
[08:35:04] <systemd> ^ 03Access Denied
[08:38:09] <c0lo> You'l have to do something about your Twitter impairment, tho', most of the things are video snips.
[08:44:33] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[09:17:36] <FatPhil> youtube-dl works fine, fortunately
[09:20:14] <FatPhil> NYT data shows that almost all of the R+ states have a lower R+ %age than the Nov election, and the D+ ones have higher D+ %ages.
[09:21:14] <FatPhil> One of the interpretations of that is that the last 2 months have turned people off the pugs.
[09:22:51] <FatPhil> GOP maybe needs a rebrand. The Sore-Loser/Old-Whinger party?
[09:56:35] <c0lo> "the last 2 months have turned people off the pugs" FatPhil, name 2 GA politicians that Trump berated the most in the last 2 months.
[10:02:39] <c0lo> https://www.georgiavotes.com
[10:02:40] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Votes
[10:03:59] <c0lo> ^^^ "Total turnout for the 2020 runoff election is -22% lower."
[10:18:59] <FatPhil> Raffensperger?
[10:24:12] <FatPhil> basically, I'm just parotting https://www.politico.com
[10:24:12] <systemd> ^ 03GOP Georgia election official: Blame Trump if Perdue or Loeffler loses
[10:47:58] <c0lo> And Kemp. None of which are Dem.
[10:48:24] <c0lo> Which such a friend, who needs enemies?
[10:49:45] <FatPhil> but dems are proportionally up, and being proportionally up points to pugs getting pissed off and not voting.
[10:52:01] <FatPhil> And the GA politicians that have been most berated are not the ones that the pugs are voting for, so they've not been directly put off from voting for those candidates.
[10:52:24] <c0lo> I didn't dispute your "turned people off the pugs", I just tabled a hypothesis as to why it turned the pug lovers down.
[10:53:58] <FatPhil> I think it's more embarassment at the nation-wide party itself than anything GA-focussed.
[10:54:03] <c0lo> No, I'm saying Trump berated his own team instead of berating the Ossoff/Warnock.
[10:54:26] <c0lo> s/No, //
[10:54:26] <SedBot> <c0lo> I'm saying Trump berated his own team instead of berating the Ossoff/Warnock.
[10:54:27] <FatPhil> How could Trump berate Ossoff or Warnock, they're not on his team?
[10:55:14] <FatPhil> Is he going to complain about how they poll too many votes or something? How would that help?
[10:55:26] <c0lo> "How could Trump berate Ossoff or Warnock" - well, if you don't have policies, you attack the political opponent, innit?
[10:55:48] <c0lo> How else you gonna win an election?
[10:55:51] <FatPhil> But Trump has plenty of policies.
[10:56:39] <FatPhil> And that tends to be at a local level - Loeffler will have the podium to criticise Warnock.
[10:57:27] <c0lo> Well, about the Trump that hes policies to win, we'll discuss later.
[10:57:39] <FatPhil> Trump has the podium to be crazy old man shouting at cloud, and splitting his party (which never really was his party anyway, the cracks first appeared >4 years ago)
[10:59:25] <c0lo> Well, true, but he won't make pugs lovable and votable doing so.
[10:59:40] <c0lo> As for shouting at the clouds...
[10:59:58] <c0lo> ... lemme fing the ref again...
[11:00:00] <FatPhil> One thing I've seen in several places was the assertion that Trump's been effectively pushign a "Pug votes don't count, because of fraud" narrative, but I'm not sure that's the case. If you're on the back foot, you normally aim for more "your votes count more than ever" narrative.
[11:01:03] <c0lo> (that would be rational. Trump is only narcissist)
[11:01:29] <FatPhil> I've heard the "they're stealing them" part, and in my head I've presumed that would map in people's heads to "so we need more". Apparently they're quitters.
[11:01:51] <FatPhil> v. badly worded sentence, sorry
[11:03:19] <FatPhil> So he's not explicitly said "vote more" or "vote less", that's been a mapping inside the listener's bonce.
[11:06:01] <c0lo> (can't find the linky quick. I went something on the line Trump saying he prefer to lose because fraud than just lose)
[11:08:00] <FatPhil> most people probably think that way. people don't like to think they lost a fair fight if they can pretend there was cheating involved.
[11:08:20] <FatPhil> or more generally "he was lucky" in things like sports/games.
[11:08:52] <c0lo> he's not explicitly said "vote more" or "vote less" - well, exactly. Especially in a country with a goldenfish memory when it comes to voting decisions
[11:10:07] <c0lo> If Trump wanted to help GA-pugs, he'd have had to pound this on an everyday basis.
[11:10:40] <c0lo> (instead, he shouted at clouds)
[11:12:10] <FatPhil> Maybe he has crab syndrome?
[11:12:32] <FatPhil> probably not, but he certainly did nothing to help the GA pugs.
[11:15:04] <c0lo> Nope, he's only narcissistic - it didn't even cross his mind to help.
[11:15:38] <c0lo> "Art of the deal" - helping them had no deal to be made, so why waste time?
[11:17:46] <c0lo> https://www.independent.co.uk
[11:17:48] <systemd> ^ 03Mitt Romney hounded by Trump supporters on plane to DC
[11:20:19] <FatPhil> I agree that it probably didn't cross his mind
[11:20:27] <c0lo> Heh, https://twitter.com (text only)
[11:20:42] <FatPhil> crappypasta please?
[11:20:50] <c0lo> "Congrats - you helped Warnock and Ossloff win! And the area of Georgia of your rally had the LOWEST voter turnout in the state. "
[11:21:06] <FatPhil> Ha!
[11:21:18] <c0lo> "Can you spread your toxicity in 2022 to help us win more Senate seats?"
[11:22:39] <c0lo> https://twitter.com (text to come)
[11:23:06] <c0lo> "#MAGA should start their own party. We need to be able to tell the difference between foil hats and turtle necks. Btw: thank you Donnie for tearing down the GOP!! "
[11:24:52] <FatPhil> Given how stable genius MAGAs are, what do you think they'd be able to come up with as a party name?
[11:26:10] <c0lo> In their imagination, they'd be the "Patriot Party" with a red-blue lion as the animal.
[11:26:26] <FatPhil> I hear the Proud Boys are considering renaming themselves to the Never Surrender, Destroy Antifa Party. ;-)
[11:26:33] <c0lo> Not gonna happen, tho, a party needs the swamp.
[11:27:18] <c0lo> They'll implode as the Tea Party did.
[11:27:58] <FatPhil> Duvergers hates divergers.
[11:30:12] <c0lo> Unless the dems make huge mistakes (shouldn't be hard to them to do so), there's not gonna be a second party for 8 years at least, much less a third diverger.
[11:35:14] <c0lo> Now, there's something strange that has happened in the sandlands in the last half an year or so; don't know whose idea it was, but the Asia Minor + Gulf region cousinly kissed each other, the last being Quatar with Saudis.
[11:36:37] <c0lo> If have this feeling in my bladder that's where the next proxy war with China is gonna take place, with China using the Iran sock and US using the arabs.
[11:54:59] <c0lo> The last days of Donald https://video.twimg.com
[12:10:32] <FatPhil> dems will fuck the economy, using super yellen powers!
[12:40:05] <c0lo> Come on, FatPhil, the world economy is already fucked. We're in uncharted territory, everybody and their dog print money and the interest rates are negative. Some trillions more not gonna make much a difference.
[12:40:55] <c0lo> The biggest fuckup would be to continue the trickledown joke.
[12:49:24] <Bytram> Hmm, what's the name of the site that tracks elections and things with lots of statistics? something 357?
[12:54:17] <Bytram> =g statistics site 357
[12:54:18] <systemd> https://www1.nyc.gov - Midtown South Precinct - NYPD
[12:54:24] <Bytram> nope
[12:54:29] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:02:56] <c0lo> bytram, take this one https://abcnews.go.com
[13:02:56] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate runoff election results 2021
[13:02:57] <Bytram> =g silvers statistics site 357
[13:02:58] <systemd> https://fivethirtyeight.com - Politics – FiveThirtyEight
[13:03:05] <Bytram> that's it!
[13:03:39] <c0lo> the 538 outsources from abcnews
[13:04:14] <Bytram> c0lo: tx, but I already am following that page. was looking for another resource
[13:04:22] <Bytram> Oh? kewel!
[13:04:27] <Bytram> tyvm
[13:04:45] <Bytram> in that case /me hits the showers
[13:06:10] <c0lo> For the official that oversees the count https://twitter.com
[13:07:01] <c0lo> the nytimes page with projections https://www.nytimes.com
[13:07:03] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate Runoff Election Results
[14:05:55] <FatPhil> the extra trillions will simply be the straw on an overloaded camel's back. Definite history-book disaster's coming, the only question is "in the next 4 years, or not" - so whose name gets attached to it.
[14:07:13] <FatPhil> I predicted in 2017-ish a massive crash of almost everything in 2020. So I was wrong. But I still think the bubbles are just about to burst, and 100%s sure it'll be on Biden's watch.
[14:24:37] <c0lo> Depends. As crazy as it sounds, I can't totally dismiss the great reset
[14:24:44] <c0lo> =w great reset
[14:24:45] <systemd> The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:26:38] <c0lo> (ie the Biden's bubble burst may be just one pop in a cacophony of them)
[14:30:59] <c0lo> Eg, Australia pumped money in buying people stay at home. 9 months after that, no inflation, no everyday-goods crisis. So, is/was it wrong? I admit I can't assess the consequences, but I'm leaning towards a negative answer.
[14:48:39] <FatPhil> we did bugger all and have no inflation or goods shortages. So doing bugger all didn't seem to be wrong.
[15:19:12] <Bytram> this will make things "interesting": http://rss.cnn.com
[15:19:15] <systemd> ^ 03Trump hand-picks replacement for Atlanta's US attorney after surprise resignation ( https://www.cnn.com )
[15:28:21] <c0lo> https://www.heraldscotland.com
[15:28:24] <systemd> ^ 03Nicola Sturgeon warns Donald Trump ban on travel to Scotland also applies to him
[15:29:08] <FatPhil> roughly translated as: ..|.,
[15:30:26] <c0lo> In a bit more verbiage, but otherwise a close translation.
[15:31:05] <c0lo> > Sturgeon said she hopes and expects Mr Trump's immediate travel plan is to "exit the White House".
[15:31:39] <c0lo> > "Coming to play golf is not what I would consider to be an essential purpose."
[15:32:40] <FatPhil> I do quite like Sturgeon, she's just sufficiently rabid to be scary, but not enough to be crazy.
[15:32:58] <FatPhil> other opinions are available, and mine was worth exactly what you paid for it.
[15:33:58] <c0lo> Must be something related to highlands air
[15:34:19] <Bytram> Sooo, if Trump attempts entry to Scotland, he could be arrested?
[15:35:14] <c0lo> Detained on airport and deported. No, Australia no longer takes convicts.
[15:35:41] <Bytram> k, thx!
[15:35:47] <Bytram> gtg, laters!
[15:38:51] <FatPhil> When does the Trumpinator get made redundant?
[15:49:42] <Bytram> IIRC, they are voting to certify the election results today
[15:49:52] <Bytram> gtg
[15:53:37] <c0lo> 20th
[15:54:48] <requerdanos> there is an ever-moving fat lady date aiui from runaway
[15:55:19] <c0lo> On the other side, keep an eye on Trump between 10 and 17 FatPhil
[15:57:41] <requerdanos> like "Sure, but the heat death of the universe is still in the future, it's not over til the fat lady sings"
[15:58:44] <FatPhil> c0lo: They'll not televise the early stages, I think. Even Trump's not that important.
[15:59:21] <c0lo> True, FatPhil
[15:59:26] <c0lo> https://www.wusa9.com
[15:59:27] <systemd> ^ 03Here's everything you need to know about the 'March For Trump' rally
[15:59:54] <c0lo> "President Trump is expected to speak at the Ellipse on Wednesday at 11 a.m."
[16:01:19] <requerdanos> For the trump-watchers. https://www.bloomberg.com
[16:01:20] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Rages Against Georgia Vote While Nodding to GOP’s Defeats
[16:01:30] <c0lo> requerdanos, I can almost her her sing https://pbs.twimg.com
[16:01:44] <requerdanos> lol
[16:02:07] <c0lo> s/her her/hear her/
[16:02:07] <SedBot> <c0lo> requerdanos, I can almost hear her sing https://pbs.twimg.com
[16:09:58] <FatPhil> Trump supporters are so stupid March for Trump isn't even held in March!?!?!
[16:11:55] <FatPhil> WTF is happenning to the markets?!?!?!
[18:51:59] <Runaway1956> What's that? Markets are nosediving in response to Biden win?
[19:07:50] <chromas> Which markets?
[19:20:17] <pinchy> WHO da winnar?
[19:22:29] <chromas> no winrar; only 7zip
[19:23:29] <pinchy> https://youtu.be
[19:23:32] <systemd> ^ 03WASHINGTON D.C WILD PROTESTS GOING OFF NOW WATCH LIVE ( https://www.youtube.com )
[19:23:41] <pinchy> big thangs poppin
[19:24:37] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[19:25:13] <chromas> Looks mostly peaceful
[19:27:19] <requerdanos> whoever it was wanted the republicans to boycott the "fake rigged" election seems to have got their way
[19:27:30] <FatPhil> AU down 2%, AG down 4% since midday
[19:27:49] <requerdanos> down against what?
[19:28:12] <FatPhil> what they were at midday
[19:28:19] <chromas> against 98%
[19:28:27] <requerdanos> no, i mean, against pounds, dollars, bitcoin, what
[19:28:45] <FatPhil> against all the major world currencies
[19:30:45] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[19:32:42] <FatPhil> ut the biggest market is USD, so that's the one that should be interpreted by default. USD didn't change much today, had a wobble against the EUR, that's all.
[19:33:59] <chromas> Our dollars are number one. You can agree or be gaddafied
[19:34:29] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[19:34:57] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[19:46:35] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[19:47:44] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[19:50:18] <Runaway1956> More people in Washington protesting for Trump than turned out for all of Biden's rallies combined. Imagine that.
[19:52:52] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[19:52:54] <systemd> ^ 03The Capitol has been breached, and the House is in recess
[19:53:53] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[19:53:56] <systemd> ^ 03US Capitol on lockdown after escalating situation among demonstrators
[19:54:26] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[19:54:29] <systemd> ^ 03House members in chamber told they may need to duck under their chairs
[19:54:54] <chromas> =yt simpsons duck and cover
[19:54:55] <systemd> https://youtube.com - "Duck And Cover" - original TV advert (01:02; 184,832 views; 👍1,134 👎35)
[19:55:20] <chromas> =yt south park duck and cover
[19:55:21] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Duck and Cover I South Park S01E03 - Volcano (01:11; 555 views; 👍8 👎0)
[19:55:24] * Runaway1956 orders a tractor trailer load of popcorn
[19:56:04] <Runaway1956> lolol - 6PM curfew -
[19:56:20] <Runaway1956> first rule of leadership - never give an order that you know won't be obeyed
[19:57:00] <chromas> So they left their computers sitting around, unlocked
[19:57:41] <chromas> Now any zecret emails that show any sort of corruption or whatever are totally planted evidence by protestors
[19:58:01] <Bytram> "Congress is now in recess and the electoral certification process has been paused."
[19:58:30] <chromas> also, hehe, windows 10
[19:58:34] <Runaway1956> Any live feeds working?
[19:59:04] <chromas> the pinchy stream still works
[19:59:27] <pinchy> ol rambler https://youtu.be
[19:59:29] <chromas> if you like hearing a douche rambling on
[19:59:29] <systemd> ^ 03WASHINGTON D.C WILD PROTESTS GOING OFF NOW WATCH LIVE ( https://www.youtube.com )
[19:59:52] <Runaway1956> 'Muricans inside the capital building? UNHEARD OF!
[20:00:16] * chromas suspects the host is actually pinchy
[20:02:02] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[20:02:13] <Runaway1956> that one seems to be working now - wasn't a few minutes ago
[20:02:22] <Runaway1956> at least for me it wasn't
[20:02:26] <requerdanos> https://www.cnn.com
[20:02:28] <systemd> ^ 03Pro-Trump protesters storm US Capitol as lawmakers gather to count electoral votes
[20:03:26] <Bytram> By Meg Wagner, Melissa Macaya, Mike Hayes and Melissa Mahtani, CNN: https://edition.cnn.com
[20:03:29] <systemd> ^ 03The Capitol has been breached, and the House is in recess
[20:03:35] <requerdanos> Out of the other side of his mouth, " Trump said on Twitter, "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!""
[20:03:45] <chromas> All Ms at CNN
[20:03:58] <Bytram> chromas++ bingo!
[20:04:00] <requerdanos> Maybe there was a sale
[20:04:12] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:04:18] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:05:12] <Bytram> take a guess why I am know as martyb on the site, but as Bytram, here.
[20:05:42] <chromas> I was there when it happened
[20:06:03] <pinchy> https://i.4cdn.org
[20:06:52] <Runaway1956> So, lemme understand this - if enough protesters show up, government shuts down?
[20:07:10] <chromas> I thought they were already shut down
[20:07:26] <Runaway1956> We need to do this about 360 days every year
[20:07:27] <requerdanos> No, protestors are not the problem, only rioters breaking police lines
[20:07:41] <chromas> Rioting is bad now, Runaway1956
[20:07:48] <Runaway1956> Rioters? I don't see any fires burning.
[20:07:56] <chromas> It was good 10 months ago but not now
[20:07:58] <Runaway1956> Any broken windows?
[20:08:08] <chromas> did you see pinchy's last vid?
[20:08:09] <requerdanos> fire rioters? No, I don't think they are fire rioters or window breaking rioters.
[20:08:21] <requerdanos> I think they are FAT LADY SINGING AVOIDANCE rioters.
[20:08:29] <Runaway1956> I'm wathing pinchy's smokenscan youtube
[20:09:33] <chromas> watch his twitters too
[20:09:47] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:10:17] <Runaway1956> trump as the joker, lol
[20:10:42] <chromas> anyhow, broken windows: yes
[20:11:19] <Runaway1956> haven't seen that yet chromas - everything I've seen so far looks peaceful
[20:11:31] <requerdanos> I don't think the bomb threat nor the riot are going to stop the vote ceremony in the end, to be honest
[20:11:31] <chromas> it was this one https://twitter.com
[20:11:34] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:11:53] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[20:12:05] <Runaway1956> OK, I see broken window now
[20:12:33] <chromas> assuming it's real and not a sound stage replica
[20:12:42] <Runaway1956> safety glass in the window
[20:13:19] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[20:13:23] <Runaway1956> bgonthescene always gets in the middle of shit
[20:13:25] <pinchy> its ol commanche
[20:13:45] <pinchy> https://dlive.tv
[20:13:53] <pinchy> from idiocracy
[20:15:06] <Runaway1956> that one looks good pinchy
[20:15:25] <Runaway1956> real shit happening - up close and personal
[20:15:47] <chromas> it's not a real stream without a guy in a gaming chair chroma keyed in
[20:15:50] <chromas> oh there he is
[20:17:04] <Runaway1956> How much video is the government getting? Probably fifty cameras capturing the imagery
[20:17:05] <chromas> the problem with live feeds is they're too slow
[20:18:46] <Runaway1956> WTF are they dragging inside the capital? Looked like a podium or something
[20:19:43] <pinchy> https://pbs.twimg.com
[20:20:42] <Runaway1956> woman shot in the neck by DC police -
[20:22:45] <FatPhil> https://edition.cnn.com
[20:22:48] <systemd> ^ 03Pro-Trump mob storms US Capitol as armed standoff takes place outside House chamber
[20:22:58] <FatPhil> probably I'm behind the times by an hour or so.
[20:23:27] <FatPhil> scrollback hyuuuuge
[20:24:29] <Runaway1956> And, I thought they were bringing in the National Guard to keep shit peaceful?
[20:24:38] <Runaway1956> maybe the NG didn't get the word in time
[20:24:55] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:25:18] <Runaway1956> The woman who was shot, was shot inside the capital building
[20:27:48] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:29:49] <Runaway1956> I am seeing very limited "riot" though - a pair of broken windows, something wooden inside the building broken and dragged down the hall
[20:29:55] <Runaway1956> still no fires
[20:30:24] <pinchy> is that a zapper i hear?
[20:30:30] <requerdanos> agreed that though wound up, the rioters as such are surely not very directed
[20:30:31] <chromas> [soros intensifies]
[20:31:01] <Runaway1956> Things could go very badly though - it ain't pretty
[20:32:53] <requerdanos> Hopefully they will riot until they reach their goal, whatever that might be, at which point they are sure to tire and can be picked off one by one
[20:33:37] <requerdanos> I support the protestors and respect their time and principled stand. Anyone who broke through police lines, stormed government buildings, broke stuff, etc. not so much
[20:33:49] <Runaway1956> Uhhhh - what is the goal though? Biden goes home in disgrace?
[20:34:08] <requerdanos> I think the goal is to make sure the fat lady does not ever sing.
[20:34:22] <requerdanos> all joking aside, I say that seriously
[20:34:38] <Runaway1956> Well, I'm no phan of phat ladies anyway
[20:34:58] <requerdanos> yeah neither, i would guess, is this bunch of protestors and rioters
[20:35:02] <FatPhil> the goal was presumably to stop Pence from doing his democratic duty.
[20:35:09] <pinchy> sort of like that riot in was it serbia? leukashinko?
[20:35:14] <Runaway1956> shit's happening in Sacramento, and in downtown LA
[20:35:19] <pinchy> back in 91?
[20:35:39] <Runaway1956> rat now sounds like
[20:36:49] <Runaway1956> https://sacramento.cbslocal.com
[20:36:50] <systemd> ^ 033 Groups Of Protesters March Through Sacramento; Multiple Arrests Made, Officers Injured
[20:36:58] <pinchy> i remember he was giving a speech and ppl wouldnt stop yelling. all he would say is "hallo hallo"
[20:37:42] <chromas> well now we've got his email address
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[20:39:11] <omgwtf> hello?
[20:39:20] <requerdanos> hello.
[20:39:20] <omgwtf> testing
[20:39:28] <omgwtf> hi!
[20:40:05] <Runaway1956> yeah, hello, it's working
[20:40:14] <Runaway1956> welcome to the twilight zone
[20:40:58] <Runaway1956> Wonder how many of those people around the capital are armed?
[20:41:20] <chromas> expecting capitol punishment?
[20:41:28] <Runaway1956> Biden had better be watching this shit
[20:42:38] <omgwtf> yeah i was just catching up and i saw on twitter that things went bonkers this afternoon
[20:44:02] <FatPhil> time to let all the druggies out of prison, and put trumps magaparas inside in their place for crimes of sedition.
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[20:44:40] <FatPhil> dems win next 10 elections if they do that!
[20:44:57] <Runaway1956> lol fatphil - how many armies you have on hand?
[20:45:21] <chromas> swamp not drained. Put them away for sedimentation
[20:45:21] <FatPhil> Me, none, as I don't need any. Are you projecting again?
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[20:45:50] <Runaway1956> I'm watching this shit, feeling both good and bad over it
[20:46:08] <omgwtf> damn internet
[20:46:08] <FatPhil> ANd it would take less than a hemidemisemiarmy to get that bunch of wannabies dealt with,
[20:46:09] <Runaway1956> Fuck the Dems - but we don't need to destroy the country while doin git
[20:46:20] <FatPhil> who's "we", here?
[20:46:24] <FatPhil> you one of them?
[20:46:26] <Runaway1956> OK you're dreaming now phil
[20:46:32] <FatPhil> always suspected as much
[20:47:02] <Runaway1956> Phil, the LAST thing we need is a dem pres, a dem house, and a dem senate
[20:47:07] <Runaway1956> that is well and truly fucked
[20:47:30] <omgwtf> idk if it will even matter after this
[20:47:40] <FatPhil> My heart bleeds. Don't you wish you lived in a properly functioning democracy now, or are you still in denial?
[20:47:47] <requerdanos> agreed. maybe that "woo, boycot the fake rigged georgia election yo!" thing was a bad idea
[20:47:59] <omgwtf> so much fraud in this election how do we ever fix american elections again?
[20:48:10] <Runaway1956> We don't live in a democracy Phil
[20:50:15] <requerdanos> omgwtf, I hesitate to ask, but... fraud?
[20:50:48] <chromas> yeah; didn't you see that Nanci Pelosi was using Microsoft Outlook?
[20:51:37] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: is English your second language, as it's almost as if you didn't understand what I said, despite its pinpoint clarity.
[20:52:08] <omgwtf> yeah fraud
[20:52:18] <Runaway1956> And, I pointed out that the US is not a democracy. I don't live in wish-land, I live in the US.
[20:52:53] <chromas> but he's asking if you want to
[20:52:56] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[20:53:01] <pinchy> ol camancho
[20:53:13] <FatPhil> If you meant "No", why didn't you just say no, it would reduce the amount of snark I have to shovel on top of your head.
[20:53:15] <Runaway1956> Nope. A democracy is one sheep and ten wolves voting on the menu.
[20:53:16] <omgwtf> https://rumble.com
[20:53:16] <systemd> ^ 03ElectionNightFacts
[20:53:33] <requerdanos> Oh, okay.
[20:54:02] <FatPhil> he likes living in countries that are 91% out-of-control wild killers.
[20:54:03] <omgwtf> that's the best summary of the election fraud i found so far
[20:54:16] <requerdanos> *unsubstantiated allegations of
[20:55:44] <chromas> don't need substantiation
[20:55:53] <chromas> we're in a post-evidentiary world now, mang
[20:55:57] <Runaway1956> requerdanos - would you agree that the election was mismanaged in those battleground states?
[20:56:06] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[20:56:14] <omgwtf> this is looking bad
[20:56:45] <FatPhil> nuke it from orbit, I say, it's the only way to be sure
[20:56:55] <chromas> oh her screen's off now
[20:56:58] <requerdanos> I would not even agree to significant mismanagement. (Though I certainly do not believe it was super-competently managed everywhere, no)
[20:57:00] <chromas> dang o' power saving
[20:57:05] <FatPhil> Hmmm, trump still has the nuclear codes, so there is still hope!
[20:57:29] <Runaway1956> Apparently, national guard on the was to capitol
[20:57:51] <requerdanos> little late on the draw there, national guard
[20:57:55] <Runaway1956> Plosi and Trump supposedly both called them in
[20:57:59] <Runaway1956> way late, lol
[20:58:07] <FatPhil> I thought NG was going to be there, just in case, anyway. I'm amazed it's not been just around the corner all day.
[20:58:19] <Runaway1956> ditto phil
[20:58:25] <requerdanos> ditto also from here
[20:58:26] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[20:58:31] <omgwtf> that's why
[20:58:54] <FatPhil> There were discussions about whether NG would be standing by today at least a month back, IIRC.
[20:59:03] <omgwtf> i don't even know what's going on or who's in charge
[20:59:19] <Runaway1956> I think the American people are in charge
[20:59:21] <FatPhil> Captain Chaos!
[20:59:38] <Runaway1956> and the people are telling Democrats to go fuck themselves
[20:59:46] <FatPhil> Damn, you didn't even manage to reach 250.
[21:00:10] <FatPhil> Happy 0th birthday New Americaland!
[21:00:20] <requerdanos> uh, the people actually said, hey we want a dem president and dem congress
[21:00:22] <omgwtf> did mike pence even do anything today?
[21:00:28] <Runaway1956> You're overreacting phil - take your meds
[21:00:55] <Runaway1956> Pence has already rolled over to take an ass pounding
[21:00:57] <FatPhil> I'm keeping things light
[21:01:32] <FatPhil> I'm the clown in your rodeo
[21:01:44] <requerdanos> ha ha, united states of maga, ha ha, year zero, lol
[21:02:39] <FatPhil> See - req's enjoying both parts of the show
[21:02:44] <Runaway1956> Haven't seen any numbers for the protesters - is this the biggest march on Washington ever?
[21:03:09] <FatPhil> If it was for trump, it was almost certainly the biggest ever
[21:03:14] <omgwtf> estimates are between 150k and 1.5m
[21:03:15] <requerdanos> ^^
[21:03:25] <omgwtf> nobody knows
[21:03:36] <Runaway1956> I'll never figure out how the estimates can have such wide spreads
[21:03:47] <omgwtf> politics?
[21:03:54] <requerdanos> good theory
[21:04:28] <Runaway1956> There should be some non-partisan method of figuring the numbers - like thousands of cameras and an AI producing the numbers
[21:04:32] <omgwtf> i saw a photo that makes it look like the biggest crowd i've ever seen
[21:04:41] <Bytram> I have been at a rally that covered the whole area in front of and behind the Washington monument
[21:04:43] <FatPhil> one news helicopter with a wide view should be able to show enough to give a very accurate estimate. crowd density isn't hard to calculate.
[21:04:59] <requerdanos> ok so is the president telling GA secretary of state to find him the right number of votes (a) the righteous act of a patriot, (b) criminal election interference, or (c) somewhere in between?
[21:05:03] <Bytram> FatPhil++
[21:05:21] <Runaway1956> that too phil - but isn't that illegal or something? People spazzed out over overflights a few years ago
[21:05:25] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[21:05:25] <Bytram> requerdanos: I'd vote yes
[21:05:29] <omgwtf> that one
[21:05:31] <requerdanos> I love DC, have a metro card in my pocket with some fare on it, wouldn't catch me there today
[21:06:16] <omgwtf> are you an american requerdanos?
[21:06:30] <requerdanos> I am an American, yes
[21:06:36] <omgwtf> oh
[21:07:04] <Runaway1956> need moar coffee . . .
[21:07:09] <omgwtf> i thought maybe you were spanish or something
[21:07:26] <requerdanos> no, I'm from North Carolina.
[21:07:33] <FatPhil> Good question, Runaway1956, there will almost certainly be some restrictions. Then again, they have very powerful zooms, so don't need to hover overhead.
[21:07:52] <FatPhil> Hey - do you know Travlr, he's from NC!
[21:08:07] <FatPhil> (sorry, in joke between me and nobody else on this chan, snigger)
[21:08:20] <requerdanos> Guess not. There's not that many of us, though, so maybe
[21:08:59] <FatPhil> When I told a Finn I was from London, she asked "do you know Ian, he's in London?"
[21:09:23] <Runaway1956> If the protesters all went home right this minute, Congress should have a nice attitude adjustment as a result of today
[21:09:28] <requerdanos> "of course. we're all in a club"
[21:09:31] <FatPhil> Now I've asked you that, you may use the same troll/joke on others.
[21:09:38] <Runaway1956> We the people can take the house anytime we decide to do so
[21:09:47] * requerdanos reveres the sacred trust
[21:10:30] <Runaway1956> Sacred trust? Are you from Middle Earth?
[21:11:00] <requerdanos> I last visited middle earth in around 1982 or so
[21:11:05] <chromas> Southearthton
[21:11:15] <FatPhil> Where's Kyle Rittenhouse when we need him!
[21:11:59] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[21:12:02] <systemd> ^ 03Analysis: Mitch McConnell just went off on Donald Trump and the election deniers
[21:12:15] <Bytram> FatPhil: hunkered down offsite
[21:12:25] <FatPhil> Standing by
[21:12:56] <Runaway1956> LOL "not my president"
[21:13:20] <Bytram> https://edition.cnn.com
[21:13:21] <chromas> also seeing "impeach 46"
[21:13:24] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Senate election results: Live updates on Loeffler, Ossoff, Perdue and Warnock
[21:13:49] <Runaway1956> Jesus, Sleepy Joe looks sleepy right now
[21:13:51] <Bytram> ^^^ "Georgia secretary of state relocated from Capitol for security reasons"
[21:14:37] <Runaway1956> Overheard on the live feed "I want Nancy Pelosi's head"
[21:15:43] <omgwtf> um
[21:15:59] <omgwtf> are there americans who *don't* know that mitch mcconnell is corrupt af?
[21:16:12] <Runaway1956> wrong question
[21:16:14] <requerdanos> probably so?
[21:16:26] <Runaway1956> are there Americans who *don't* know that politicians are corrupt?
[21:16:33] <FatPhil> Runaway1956++
[21:16:58] <omgwtf> i think there are millions of americans who think or at least pretend that trump isn't corrupt
[21:17:08] <omgwtf> kinda dumb but ok
[21:17:08] <Runaway1956> This is the one thing I like about Fusty - he knows the corruption runs deep on both sides of the aisle
[21:17:22] <requerdanos> yes, it seems so. some of them are in washington DC today protesting and/or rioting
[21:17:37] <FatPhil> touche
[21:17:50] <Runaway1956> requerdanos - I still don't see much rioting
[21:17:57] <Bytram> https://www.cnn.com
[21:18:00] <systemd> ^ 03Photos: Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress
[21:18:02] <requerdanos> no, agreed, it's been minimal
[21:18:04] <Runaway1956> lots of civil disobedience
[21:18:29] <omgwtf> but like how can anybody who knows anything about american politics think that mitch mcconnell of all people is anything but a major swamp monster
[21:19:09] <Runaway1956> The camera pans around, and the crowd doesn't look all that big
[21:19:12] <requerdanos> People just don't get that into politics. Like they have a CPA to do their 'tax stuff,' they have politicians to do their 'politics stuff'
[21:19:20] <Runaway1956> in other shots, it has looked like a helluva lot of people
[21:19:34] <omgwtf> i think this whole thing is a bunch of staged actors doing some kind of reverse psychology thing
[21:20:03] <omgwtf> getting the protest turned into an excuse for congress to not even debate the contested states and just certify biden
[21:20:56] <Runaway1956> Trump says "the election was stolen, but you need to go home now"
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[21:21:13] <Runaway1956> fekkin idiot - stop talking out both sides of your mouth at the same time
[21:21:21] <omgwtf> did he tweet that?
[21:21:39] <Runaway1956> he appears to be live right now on the feed I'm watching
[21:21:45] <Runaway1956> they just cut away from him now
[21:21:54] <omgwtf> where is he?
[21:21:59] <Runaway1956> https://dlive.tv
[21:22:02] <systemd> ^ 03AustinZone · DLive
[21:22:07] <Runaway1956> that wasn't clear - white house maybe
[21:22:20] <chromas> Do people usually only talk with half their mouths?
[21:22:31] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
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[21:23:13] <Runaway1956> Yes, that's exactly the clip they showed
[21:23:54] <Runaway1956> touche chromas
[21:24:14] <requerdanos> it's just preferred to use both sides for the same thing
[21:24:19] <Runaway1956> or trebuchet
[21:24:43] <omgwtf> what is he even saying?
[21:24:51] <omgwtf> this is all so stupid
[21:25:02] <Runaway1956> talking shit mostly - but he's apparently asking for people to not riot
[21:25:07] <chromas> Fake tweet; there's no Jeff Tiedrich reply
[21:25:26] <requerdanos> it was stupid and predictable before. I told someone this morning that there was going to be rioting in DC today at Trump's suggestion.
[21:25:38] <requerdanos> I mean, there sure wasn't much. but...
[21:25:45] <omgwtf> when did he ask ppl to riot?
[21:25:57] <omgwtf> or suggest or w/e
[21:26:05] <chromas> lol they disabled replying to the tweet
[21:26:09] <Runaway1956> now now now - "fiery but mostly peaceful" was in another state entirely
[21:26:46] <FatPhil> wow, that rDT vid was bind-moggling.
[21:26:54] * Runaway1956 wonders if he can still buy a MAGA hat
[21:27:23] <FatPhil> I asked the g/f's parents if they could find "souvenirs" to send to us ;-)
[21:27:34] <omgwtf> i have a tab open with 23k replies but if i open a new tab that tweet has 0 replies now
[21:27:40] <chromas> shouldn't you be asking Chinese kids to send you one?
[21:27:44] <Bytram> Just found a pic; crowd barely reached Washington Monument: https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com
[21:28:11] <Bytram> found on this page: https://www.cnn.com
[21:28:12] <Runaway1956> nice find Bytram
[21:28:14] <systemd> ^ 03Photos: Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress
[21:28:29] <Runaway1956> so, what kind of numbers does that mean?
[21:28:36] <Runaway1956> near a million, but not there?
[21:29:28] <omgwtf> i linked that same image half an hour ago
[21:29:57] <Bytram> omgwtf: Sorry, I must have missed it.
[21:29:59] <Runaway1956> OK, but I can't keep up with everything omgwtf
[21:30:03] <omgwtf> does this chat not accept links for new users?
[21:30:20] <chromas> let's all encircle Bytram with the shame stick
[21:30:21] <Runaway1956> yes it does, I've clicked on a couple of your links
[21:30:38] <Runaway1956> chromas, that's called a hula hoop
[21:31:20] <chromas> yeah the photo was posted but it was hosted by twitter; this one's hosted by cnn
[21:31:29] <Runaway1956> Actually, I think the crowd is thinning - the last pan looks even less impressive
[21:31:57] <omgwtf> oh ok
[21:32:04] <chromas> thinning like a hairline. time to put a hat on the crowd
[21:32:10] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[21:32:19] <Runaway1956> a hat or a biden lid
[21:32:33] <Bytram> why oh why can't CNN provide a direct link to their stories?
[21:32:37] <chromas> We just want a coverup; not a sniff test
[21:32:51] <Runaway1956> Who watches CNN?
[21:33:16] <Runaway1956> brawling in Los Angeles between Qanon and BLM
[21:33:20] <chromas> abcnnbcbsbcyahoo
[21:33:45] <Bytram> gesundheit!
[21:34:18] <requerdanos> CNN is a known left-leaning anti-trump source, I think
[21:34:30] <Runaway1956> Question remains: Does SHTF tonight?
[21:34:54] <omgwtf> who watches any of this mainstream media crap anymore?
[21:34:57] <requerdanos> I doubt it, given the meager attempts at rioting
[21:35:31] <requerdanos> Especially with Trump telling everyone to go home peacefully
[21:35:38] <FatPhil> SHTF = Solemnity Heals The Federation
[21:35:40] <Runaway1956> Demonstrations in Salem Or look rather subdued - everyone carrying umbrellas, LOL
[21:36:06] <omgwtf> antifa uses umbrellas to hide stuff
[21:36:25] <omgwtf> like moving in gear or lighting firebombs
[21:36:27] <Runaway1956> It's difficult to be passionate in a downpour
[21:36:35] <omgwtf> oh lol
[21:36:43] <omgwtf> and i guess if its raining too
[21:37:08] <FatPhil> They'll get cold - someone light some fires for them
[21:37:21] <requerdanos> oh, very tricky there
[21:38:05] <Runaway1956> yet another camera pan at the capitol, and again it looks like a huge crowd -
[21:38:17] <Runaway1956> it would help if everyone just took a number and then stood still
[21:39:01] <FatPhil> Louis Farrakhan organised a better march, IMHO
[21:39:40] <requerdanos> agreed.
[21:40:24] <FatPhil> And Hanoi Jane, for that matter.
[21:41:10] * Runaway1956 never understood why hanoi jane wasn't deported under threat of death if she ever returned
[21:41:19] <Runaway1956> blame Turner's millions I guess
[21:44:53] <Runaway1956> sleepy joe blathering here - https://www.youtube.com
[21:44:56] <systemd> ^ 03President-elect Joe Biden Full Remarks on "Siege" at U.S. Capitol
[21:44:56] <omgwtf> 8m views of trump's video tweet
[21:45:24] <Runaway1956> I think he's nerving himself up to declare martial law on the 20th
[21:45:35] <Runaway1956> "an assault" he says
[21:46:02] <Runaway1956> christ, I'm sick of him already
[21:46:57] <omgwtf> if he takes office i think there won't be any kind of law
[21:47:24] <Runaway1956> defund the police, of course
[21:47:58] <omgwtf> they already did that in too many cities
[21:48:02] <Runaway1956> Did Twitter lock Trump's account? Someone said that
[21:48:03] <FatPhil> Well, if the alt-right keep running around complaining and breaking windows because they are annoyed that they lost all the time, then there probably won't be.
[21:48:11] <FatPhil> However, that's the trumpaloons' fault.
[21:49:51] <omgwtf> wait this is an election chat and ppl don't know about all the fraud that happened??
[21:50:11] <FatPhil> the fraud is 99.9% in your head
[21:50:18] <requerdanos> ^^
[21:50:37] <omgwtf> wtf
[21:50:42] <omgwtf> are you serious?
[21:51:45] * Runaway1956 finds it difficult to follow 9 feeds at the same time
[21:51:56] <omgwtf> how can you see the surveillance video from fulton county kicking out all the witnesses then rolling out suitcases of ballots and scanning them over and over and say there's no fraud?
[21:52:38] <Runaway1956> No one WANTS to see that omgwtf - nor do they want to see those suitcases of ballots pulled out from under a table after they kick out all the R
[21:52:51] <chromas> The only sites claiming fraud are the no-name nutters
[21:52:59] <chromas> we only believe the well-established nuttes
[21:53:23] <omgwtf> well if my country was about to go into a civil war i would sure as hell want to know why it was happening
[21:54:16] <requerdanos> I am pretty well aware of the fraud allegations, and their widespread acceptance
[21:54:36] <FatPhil> omgwtf: I've seen your "evidence" and it's between meaningless nonsense and downright lies. Your claims themselves are fraudulent.
[21:55:13] <Runaway1956> How about Dominion claims that their ballot machines weren't connected to the internet - but some guy goes online and logs into some of them
[21:55:17] <FatPhil> I think the document with the 68.5% error rate claim is still "live" in some suit isn't it?
[21:55:40] <FatPhil> Oh, man, that was pitifully useless "analysis", the guy didn't have a clue what he was talking about.
[21:56:25] <FatPhil> carny and others (he says looking over ----> there) lapped it up, of course.
[21:56:31] <requerdanos> Dominion voting machines are a blight that should not be allowed
[21:57:01] <chromas> that's what they said about Diebold and look where they're at now
[21:57:18] <requerdanos> Diebold voting machines are a blight that should not be allowed
[21:57:34] <FatPhil> All voting machines which aren't OtS hardware and OSS should be outlawed.
[21:58:04] <omgwtf> the dominion system is completely locked down from inspection
[21:58:39] <requerdanos> agreed, FatPhil
[21:58:41] <omgwtf> but you can watch their sales presentations where they assure buyers that they are compatible with all kinds of 3g and 4g modems
[21:58:55] <FatPhil> Yes, but at the moment they are approved and certified, and therefore they are valid mechanisms for performing a ballot in 2020.
[21:59:00] <omgwtf> and they even work on mongolian cell networks
[21:59:23] <Runaway1956> Pence, not trump, authorized deployment of the National Guard in DC
[21:59:27] <omgwtf> but we're supposed to believe they're not connected to the internet
[21:59:48] <requerdanos> I personally don't believe the "not connected" story.
[22:00:16] <FatPhil> aircrack will tell you within minutes
[22:00:16] <Runaway1956> We know they are connected, because Michigan updated and coordinated in real time, on live TV
[22:00:33] <FatPhil> Michegan was batch by batch, wasn't it?
[22:00:35] <Runaway1956> Tear gas in Salem
[22:00:47] <Runaway1956> I hope that's firecrackers I hear
[22:01:07] <FatPhil> flashbangs were already reported elsewhere
[22:01:39] <Runaway1956> damn it sounded like a firefight for a minute there, still not sure if it was gusn or firecrackers
[22:01:47] <FatPhil> I don't know if DW have feet on the street, but that's the news source I'm using for disinterested reporting.
[22:02:00] <omgwtf> there was a georgia election worker who had a problem with her poll pad and dominion updated it while she was on the phone with them
[22:02:55] <FatPhil> did they talk her through connecting to the internet, updating the software, disconnecting the internet? If so, then what's the problem?
[22:02:58] <Runaway1956> hard drives from offices in the capitol have been taken
[22:03:23] <FatPhil> Suddenly - CP charges!
[22:03:35] <FatPhil> KP? CP? YKWIM
[22:03:36] <omgwtf> no they just updated the poll pad over the air immediately
[22:03:46] <omgwtf> meaning it was already connected
[22:05:12] <chromas> now that the mob's got ahold of the storage, all potential evidence is tainted. nice one, feds
[22:06:24] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:06:38] <omgwtf> this sucks
[22:06:57] <FatPhil> omgwtf: debunked on Nov 4 - the claim of there being an update did not correspond to the logs on the device.
[22:07:20] <FatPhil> wow, recycling 64 day old garbage, how eco-friendly of you
[22:07:30] <omgwtf> that was probably some youtube celeb who was just there to pose and film
[22:07:37] <Runaway1956> All this debunking fatphil - it depends on who you want to believe
[22:07:53] <requerdanos> to some, allegations require evidence. To others, allegations are considered evidence.
[22:08:09] <FatPhil> The result of the investigation into the claim. That showed it to be a complete fabrication.
[22:08:13] <Runaway1956> meanwhile, dominion machines are connected to the interwebz
[22:08:15] <FatPhil> The claim was effectively hearsay.
[22:08:22] <requerdanos> you can tell which camp someone is in why whether they are saying "omg!total fraud!" or not
[22:08:24] <FatPhil> gish gallop detected.
[22:08:37] <omgwtf> susan voyles was debunked on nov 4?
[22:08:50] <Runaway1956> it was all photoshopped, right?
[22:08:56] <omgwtf> how is that possible if she didn't even testify for weeks later?
[22:09:17] <omgwtf> https://www.youtube.com
[22:09:19] <systemd> ^ 03Susan Voyles' Testimony During Georgia House Election Investigation Hearing
[22:09:27] <FatPhil> Mine's from a Ridley
[22:09:40] <Runaway1956> Is Ripley a credible news source?
[22:10:06] <FatPhil> But she "stands by her previous claim" so could have testified later, some people do that kind of thing.
[22:10:19] <omgwtf> but that's beside the point when the georgia election officials deleted tons of 2020 logs and image files even tho they left 2018 and before
[22:10:54] <Runaway1956> I think that I'm expected to make something to eat
[22:10:59] <FatPhil> gish gallop continuing
[22:11:03] <Runaway1956> a couple hints have been dropped already
[22:11:04] <chromas> taco pizza
[22:11:31] <Runaway1956> maybe bacon and eggs and hotcakes
[22:15:01] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:15:23] <omgwtf> i guess check the videos for guys with backwards maga hats?
[22:15:46] * requerdanos observes the "allegations are evidence" effect at work
[22:15:50] <FatPhil> Newsmax has gone RINO - can anyone confirm?
[22:17:00] <omgwtf> newsmax was always establishment mainstream media afaik
[22:17:12] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:17:47] <requerdanos> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com
[22:17:47] <systemd> ^ 03Newsmax Bias Rating - Media Bias Fact Check
[22:18:02] <requerdanos> similarly biased rating to CNN, just leans right instead of left
[22:18:23] <FatPhil> Ah, so it wasn't particularly pro-Trump prior to today then?
[22:18:36] <requerdanos> well, yes, it leans right
[22:19:11] <pinchy> oh it was Ceaucescu back in 1989
[22:20:46] <omgwtf> 11m views on trump's video now
[22:21:07] <omgwtf> wonder if ppl are seeing that and going home or just getting madder
[22:22:23] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:23:02] <requerdanos> Nice reply "Another unidentifiable picture of something with a trumped up narrative to go with it. How about a close up of whatever that stuff is so that you can prove they are what you say they are?"
[22:23:12] <FatPhil> Plenty of righties hate trump's guts. Lincoln Project, anyone (which are probably a front for Falun Gong given the bizarity of the last few months)
[22:23:15] <requerdanos> get it, "Trumped up" lol
[22:23:28] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[22:23:53] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[22:24:59] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[22:32:04] <omgwtf> those don't look like average trump supporters
[22:32:15] <omgwtf> very scruffy
[22:32:50] <omgwtf> and almost everyone in the video is filming not participating.....hmm
[22:54:32] <Runaway1956> That's funny shit - https://twitter.com
[22:57:42] <Runaway1956> I think they storming the capitol in Olympia
[22:58:04] <Runaway1956> one gate at least is open, and they moving in through the fence
[22:59:07] <Runaway1956> Sorry, that's the governor's mansion - at least fifty people headed to the front door
[22:59:54] <omgwtf> washington?
[23:00:18] <omgwtf> is it antifa or anti-antifa?
[23:00:25] <requerdanos> sounds like some people got confused about "Storm the capitol in washington"
[23:00:38] <Runaway1956> yes, Olympia Washington
[23:00:38] <omgwtf> what do we even call the anti-antifa crowd?
[23:00:49] <requerdanos> nutjobs, mostly
[23:00:51] <omgwtf> patriots?
[23:00:52] <Runaway1956> we call them Americans
[23:01:16] <omgwtf> anti-election fraud warriors?
[23:01:52] <FatPhil> useful idiots
[23:02:42] <Runaway1956> I didn't realize there were so many Trump supporters in Washington state
[23:02:44] <omgwtf> i think that's usually a term for the communists
[23:02:50] <FatPhil> looks like the Russians haven't fired a shot yet, and progress is steady
[23:02:59] <Runaway1956> Antifa has had all the media attention for the past year
[23:03:18] <FatPhil> that's because you have a simple mind that likes to put things in simple boxes.
[23:04:45] <Runaway1956> Austin Zone says two fatalities in Washington DC - no details on the second one yet
[23:05:10] <omgwtf> including that girl who got shot in the neck?
[23:05:15] <FatPhil> Today, the trumptards stopped democracy from working - they brought you one step closer to dictatorship. Now, you might end up with a Mussolini, or you might end up with a Mao, but if your selection process is just "anyone apart from the Communist", then you're part of the problem.
[23:05:22] <Runaway1956> Yeah, that's my understanding
[23:05:33] <Runaway1956> fatphil you're being dumb now
[23:05:39] <Runaway1956> we don't live in a democracy
[23:05:46] <Runaway1956> but we DO have the right to be heard
[23:05:54] <Runaway1956> and the American people are being heard right now
[23:06:33] <Runaway1956> I expect that every representative at local state and federal levels are LISTENING
[23:07:57] <Runaway1956> Heh - I'm not certain, but I think state police pointman in Olympia is a female
[23:08:23] <Runaway1956> if it's a guy, he has manboobs
[23:10:52] <FatPhil> You do live in a nominal democracy, it's just the most contrived-to-be-dysfunctional democracy that has ever been designed/implemented.
[23:11:19] <FatPhil> It doesn't actually work as a democracy at all, I will grant you that.
[23:11:38] <Runaway1956> Phil, I took all the civics classes in high school - "nominal" democracy is the most accurate desription you've come up with so var
[23:12:07] <Runaway1956> We actually live in a republic, with democratically elected representation
[23:12:22] <Runaway1956> which is not to be confused with a democracy
[23:12:35] <FatPhil> democratically elected representation is a democracy
[23:12:47] <Runaway1956> It's a republic at heart -
[23:12:53] <chromas> in america, democracy just means we invaded you to prop up the petrodollar
[23:12:54] <FatPhil> Republic and democracy are not exclusive concepts.
[23:13:03] <FatPhil> Are you sure you took any civics classes?
[23:13:13] <Runaway1956> True, but we don't democratically vote on everything
[23:13:14] <chromas> american civics classes
[23:13:22] <FatPhil> Nor does any democracy
[23:13:32] <Runaway1956> we have bureaucracies and shitzls that don't answer to the people
[23:13:33] <FatPhil> Fuck me, you didn't learn any politics at all, did you?
[23:13:58] <Runaway1956> Yes, fuck you - there are essential differences between what you think we are, and what we really are
[23:14:21] <Runaway1956> But, please note, I didn't fuck you until you asked for it. ;^)
[23:14:31] <FatPhil> You seem to have your onwn definitions of words that are not shared by people anywhere else in the world.
[23:14:56] <Runaway1956> I spikken ze 'Murican.
[23:15:10] <Runaway1956> No sprechen ze Liberal.
[23:15:11] <FatPhil> I know what the US is, as my g/f's a US citizen and we're in almost daily communication with her fairly-politically-active parents.
[23:15:25] <Runaway1956> Awwww, that's sweeeet.
[23:15:45] <FatPhil> And they've lived in the blue states, lived in the swing states, and lived in the red states.
[23:15:56] <omgwtf> oh ok so you're not american fatphil?
[23:15:58] <Runaway1956> Even sweeter -
[23:16:11] <Runaway1956> No, Phil ain't 'Murican.
[23:16:16] <omgwtf> ok
[23:16:17] <chromas> are you sure they took any civics classes?
[23:16:40] <omgwtf> that explains how somebody can be so uninformed about american election fraud
[23:17:10] <Runaway1956> That's not entirely fair, we have people right here in 'Murica who don''t understand shit.
[23:17:20] <FatPhil> I've read plenty of the reports and filings, and they are packed full of bullshit.
[23:17:38] <FatPhil> What's your view of the 68.5% figure - carny loved that one when it came in
[23:17:54] <Runaway1956> Phil, you really don't need to know much more than the election machines
[23:18:00] <omgwtf> the adjudication rate?
[23:18:08] <FatPhil> The "error rate"
[23:18:15] <omgwtf> i have heard it was something like that yeah
[23:18:28] <FatPhil> Yup, as stupid as carny
[23:18:34] <FatPhil> You're not a sock are you?
[23:18:35] <omgwtf> but it was as high as the 90's in some cases
[23:18:56] <FatPhil> No it wasn't and you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. We now have the proof.
[23:19:06] <omgwtf> i think it depends on the precinct
[23:19:17] <FatPhil> No, you're an idiot in every precinct
[23:19:23] <omgwtf> oh you have an inside source?
[23:19:32] <FatPhil> Yes, I read the source
[23:19:40] <Runaway1956> To be sure, it depends on the precinct - some were very specifically targeted for shenanigans
[23:19:46] <omgwtf> the dominion systems source code?
[23:19:53] <FatPhil> the analysis of the "fraud", by the "expert".
[23:20:03] <FatPhil> the source of the claim, not the source code
[23:20:14] <omgwtf> who are you talking about?
[23:20:32] <omgwtf> flynn's forensics team?
[23:20:36] <FatPhil> So you've forgotten that one? The Maricopa one?
[23:20:40] <FatPhil> GA?
[23:21:04] <omgwtf> i think they only got access to michigan machines
[23:21:38] <FatPhil> OK, you've forgotten that one, I'll let you off as your lot make so many hundreds of different bogus claims, it must be hard to keep track of them all.
[23:21:55] <FatPhil> What do you think of the 1-in-a-quadrillion analysis?
[23:22:04] <omgwtf> wtf are you talking about?
[23:22:18] <FatPhil> Jesus - you don't even know what your sides claims even are?
[23:22:36] <omgwtf> who's side?
[23:22:45] <FatPhil> Have you been asleep for the last couple of months, or do you just have the memory (and other mental capacities) of pondlife?
[23:22:58] <omgwtf> i'm just a guy who wants to know wtf is happening to my country
[23:23:31] <FatPhil> You're on the loonie-tunes "muh frauds stole muh elections" side.
[23:23:32] <Runaway1956> Dominion happened to our country, that's almost all a guy needs to know
[23:24:12] <FatPhil> You may not have gone to DC today, but you are still exactly as much a useful idiot as them.
[23:24:29] <omgwtf> bro you sound like a flat earther talking down to sphere cucks
[23:24:35] <Runaway1956> Why you resort to being uncivil phil?
[23:24:53] <FatPhil> Have you been stalking me? I've been debunkin flat earthers in the last couple of days.
[23:24:54] <Runaway1956> I didn't even fuck you until you asked to be fucked -
[23:25:00] <FatPhil> You can't even get your stalking right!
[23:25:34] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: because I literally look down my nose at you and consider you inferior. Your intellectual capabilities are pitiful, you cannot hold a logical argument.
[23:25:42] <omgwtf> idk wtf you are and honestly i'm starting to think you're a twin of this azuma person
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[23:25:58] <BoogalooBalogna> burn it all down!
[23:26:25] <Runaway1956> Like Kenosha?
[23:26:48] <FatPhil> If when i fling facts at you they bounce off, I reckon you really aren't worth the effort.
[23:27:34] <omgwtf> i'm one of the least political ppl in any group i just can't ignore the obvious facts and say this election was fair and transparent
[23:28:01] <FatPhil> Do you have *evidence*?
[23:28:07] <Runaway1956> But, Phil is the authority who decides what the facts are.
[23:28:12] <FatPhil> You're paranoid, it's a weakness.
[23:28:30] <omgwtf> you mean did i steal the sharpie they gave me to fill out my ballot?
[23:28:39] <FatPhil> No - I take your "facts" and show you how they cannot be used to reach the conclusions you pretend they can.
[23:28:54] <omgwtf> even tho sharpies are supposed to bleed thru ballots and spoil them?
[23:29:47] <omgwtf> you should check out the videos from that rumble link i dropped earlier
[23:30:07] <omgwtf> it would save you time
[23:30:47] <omgwtf> https://rumble.com
[23:30:48] <systemd> ^ 03ElectionNightFacts
[23:31:13] <halibut> From https://apnews.com : ``Sharpies are recommended by the manufacturer because they provide the fastest-drying ink.''
[23:31:14] <systemd> ^ 03Claim that Sharpie pens ruin Arizona ballots misses the mark
[23:31:58] <omgwtf> but they bled thru the ballots in pennsylvania
[23:32:33] <omgwtf> but i guess that's not evidence because you weren't here and didn't see it?
[23:32:57] <omgwtf> or was i supposed to steal some ballots and mail them to you?
[23:33:11] <Runaway1956> Sharpies bleed through buttloads of shit
[23:34:30] <omgwtf> that scanner expert in georgia had a whole presentation about the analyzing the paper and the printing
[23:35:13] <omgwtf> as soon as he finished the election commission voted unanimously to give him access to the ballots for scanning and analysis
[23:35:45] <omgwtf> and within 4 hours the ballots got trucked out of the warehouse and taken to a shredding company
[23:36:10] <omgwtf> but that's not evidence of fraud right fatphil?
[23:36:32] <halibut> From https://www.fox43.com (York County is in PA): ``A PSA from York County on behalf of @VoteYorkPA: The perceived Sharpie "bleed through" does not invalidate ballots. The ballots are designed to handle that. Sharpies are used because they dry quickly.''
[23:36:34] <systemd> ^ 03Fact-check: Determining if social media claims in Pa. about the election, vote counting are true or false
[23:36:38] <halibut> Direct Twitter link (I think): https://twitter.com
[23:36:44] <Runaway1956> Don't forget the truckload of ballots from NYC to Phila that got sidetracked, then made to disappear real quick
[23:37:09] <omgwtf> that was lancaster runaway1965
[23:37:20] <omgwtf> middle of the state
[23:37:28] <chromas> I remember back when sharpies were just a meme
[23:37:40] <omgwtf> and they still haven't found the missing trailer i think
[23:39:35] <Runaway1956> If I remember correctly, that truckload of ballots had two pallets for Philly, and the rest were supposed to go on to Lancaster
[23:39:47] <Runaway1956> but he was held up in Philly, and none of them ever got delivered
[23:40:01] <Runaway1956> but they all disappeared when attention was focused on them
[23:40:02] <omgwtf> oh maybe there were multiple loads on the same trailer
[23:40:22] <Runaway1956> Yes, LTL deliveries, "less than truckload"
[23:40:53] <Runaway1956> I always hated LTL when I was driving, one buttwipe could ruin your whole day, even your week
[23:44:53] <Runaway1956> More on that truck - the driver is the one who exposed all that, he was pissed that he was held up for like 8 hours at his first stop
[23:45:06] <Runaway1956> He should have had two pallets off, and back on the road in 1/2 hour
[23:45:17] <Runaway1956> but they wouldn't unload him, kept him sitting there all day
[23:45:36] <omgwtf> yeah what a weird story
[23:45:57] <Runaway1956> It's like they wanted to keep those two pallets in reserve, and not use them unless needed
[23:49:41] <Runaway1956> Fox News reporter punches out old man in Olympia because American Flag or some such silly shit
[23:49:53] <omgwtf> idk what to make of all this stuff that's happening
[23:51:03] <Runaway1956> I know what to think: 'Murica's pissed!
[23:51:34] <Runaway1956> A lot of representatives had better be mending their ways, and they don't have a lot of time to think about it
[23:52:00] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[23:52:35] <requerdanos> Because if they don't mend their ways, what?
[23:52:47] <omgwtf> i mean idk who on twitter is legit and who is fake but these videos look pretty real
[23:53:02] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[23:55:56] <omgwtf> the more i think about it i can't help wondering if this whole thing was antifa shutting down congress and blaming it on magatards and it totally worked
[23:56:29] <requerdanos> you have been promoting that theory for hours. It may be true, but probably isn't.
[23:56:54] <omgwtf> and if that's what happened then tomorrow if congress just certifies biden what's going to happen with all those people still in the d.c. area?
[23:57:18] <requerdanos> for this theory to be true, trumpers have to have ignored Trump's calls to "be strong" and "take back our election" etc. etc. but some false flag group has to have somehow responded en masse to it.
[23:57:50] <omgwtf> i never said that 400k antifa were in d.c. pretending to be magatards
[23:58:15] <omgwtf> it only takes 1 asshole to throw the first rock to start a fight
[23:58:19] <requerdanos> well, no, and that would also be pretty unlikely.
[23:58:47] <requerdanos> again, the magatards, as you so aptly put it, already tend to have a pretty high asshole factor without outside help
[23:58:59] <omgwtf> but i believe what i heard about 3 chartered busses with police escorts
[23:59:14] <omgwtf> nah you're just prejudiced
[23:59:18] <requerdanos> well, sure, but your belief system doesn't make things facts.
[23:59:43] <omgwtf> last time there was a big rally in dc there was no violence all day and trump supporters stayed late and picked up the trash