#US_Election | Logs for 2020-12-15

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[00:11:46] <c0lo> Yeah, he's still young enough to learn from mistakes.
[00:13:28] <FatPhil> stop the electric collage = accept logo, select hitler
[00:37:40] <c0lo> Let's make it rounder, eh? Like 60-1 in... New Mexico? "Stop the certification! Mail ballots are unconsti..." Dam', not even original. https://www.democracydocket.com
[00:37:41] <systemd> ^ 03🚨ALERT: NEW TRUMP LAWSUIT
[00:39:34] <FatPhil> Stop the stopping, it's getting embarassing.
[00:45:24] <c0lo> And this, entertaining as it may be, reminds me I still have a design bug to fix until Xmas, better get going https://twitter.com
[00:45:25] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[00:46:00] <c0lo> (fingers crossed, good chances I knock it by this evening. The bug I mean)
[01:03:33] <Runaway1956> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[01:03:34] <systemd> ^ 03With U.S. Senate Runoffs Near, Georgia's Not Prosecuting Its Unprecedented Number of Double Voters
[01:32:23] <c0lo> Runaway1956, #HeLostGetOverIt https://www.ajc.com
[01:32:26] <systemd> ^ 035 Georgia election fraud claims explained
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[02:17:37] <chromas> "In one case, James Blalock had died in 2006, but his widow, Mrs. James Blalock, is still alive and voted in this year’s election, according to 11Alive news in Atlanta.
[02:17:37] <chromas> “He’s not voting. He didn’t vote,” Agnes Blalock told 11Alive. “It was me.”"
[02:17:49] <chromas> lol. nobody's claiming dead people are voting
[02:18:57] <requerdanos> there are actually a lot of people claiming dead people are voting.
[02:19:22] <chromas> no
[02:19:42] <requerdanos> sure there are. let me introduce you to some of my nutty trump friends.
[02:19:52] <chromas> nobody thinks zombies are real
[02:20:21] <requerdanos> I am not sure you grasp how out-there nut-job wacko some of these trumpers are...
[02:21:21] <chromas> if I wanted to help out the trumpster and stuffed in a ballot with your great-grammy, I couldn't prove it didn't happen by interviewing your mom who would say she's been dead twelve years and obviously didn't vote
[02:21:26] <requerdanos> sitting here saying sane, reasonable things like "nobody thinks zombies are real" -- I'd swear some of these "Ya wurr a mask, next they's comin' fer ye guns" people would not rule out the zombie explanation
[02:22:17] <chromas> my mask has a built-in gun
[02:22:35] <chromas> that way you're protected when we shoot the shit
[02:23:29] <requerdanos> I literally have jeen-iuses posting on my faceboox "Before you git a vax, get the facts!" claiming it's a mind control thing
[02:24:05] <chromas> Would you trust a vaccination promoted by the guy who brought you Clippit and Microsoft Bob?
[02:24:41] <requerdanos> yes, stuff like that. maybe you do understand, at least partially
[02:25:14] <c0lo> chromas, for a sample of how many are nutty https://twitter.com
[02:25:16] <systemd> ^ 03Search Twitter - #MAGA2020 ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[02:25:41] <c0lo> That letting aside the ones that are on Parler only.
[02:25:51] <chromas> talking about nuts and then pointing to twitter is cheating
[02:26:17] <requerdanos> I dunno, on twitter the nuttier nuts sink to the bottom and can be thus separated
[02:27:04] <c0lo> You may argue that their percentage from the population is low, and I'd have nothing to contradict you with. Mind you, nothing to support that assertion either.
[02:27:23] <c0lo> But you can'r argue the aren't many in absolute value.
[02:27:31] <requerdanos> By "a lot of people", I meant an alarming (to me) number.
[02:27:53] <c0lo> s/can'r/can't/
[02:27:53] <SedBot> <c0lo> But you can't argue the aren't many in absolute value.
[02:43:20] <requerdanos> https://fit.thequint.com
[02:43:21] <systemd> ^ 03Fact-Check on COVID-19 Vaccine
[02:44:24] <c0lo> No chips? Can one hope for tacos then?
[02:45:04] <chromas> we can hope
[02:45:16] <requerdanos> agreed, there is hope
[02:46:48] <chromas> <requerdanos> usually if someone is telling you to "Get the truth" or "Get the facts" they are about to feed you propaganda.
[02:46:48] <chromas> Is there a reason that doesn't hold for "fact check"? :D
[02:47:55] <requerdanos> No, same disclaimer should apply.
[02:48:09] <FatPhil> yeah, because fact checks normally contain the facts, and sources to back them ap
[02:48:37] <requerdanos> there is a sort of unwritten rule that fact checks are as Phil says above, but still be on guard; I've seen some that are just propaganda.
[02:48:37] <FatPhil> "get the facts" gibberings are usually just open ended
[02:49:14] <FatPhil> cue X files ditty
[02:50:02] <chromas> Truth is, get the fact checks rite hear
[02:50:10] <requerdanos> for example, if someone tells you "get the facts" and follows up by saying that vaccines are a mind control conspiracy, you got propaganda and not facts.
[02:51:00] <FatPhil> it's obvious, why can't you see that? why else would they be doing it?
[02:51:27] <FatPhil> and suchlike "support" for their case.
[02:52:23] <c0lo> Losing faith, _maybe_ keeping his sanity - https://twitter.com
[02:52:24] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[02:52:30] <requerdanos> It's more sophisticated; I had someone on this topic tell me that I was "just repeating talking points" about public health
[02:52:55] <requerdanos> and "not listening" about the global mind control conspiracy
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[02:57:11] <requerdanos> The Mitchell exit from the Republican party is a drop in what by all rights should be an ocean, but isn't.
[03:01:03] <FatPhil> do you mean it's a mere drop where it ought to be a flood?
[03:01:44] <requerdanos> I do mean that. "Where did you go when the (R) party disintegrated?" Answer for most: "Go?"
[03:02:13] <requerdanos> "Are you kidding? I am just learning to use the disintegrator properly!"
[03:02:47] <FatPhil> FX:Pulls off latex facemask
[03:03:17] <Runaway1956_> I think that one is a rubber mask . . .
[03:17:13] <c0lo> Just replace with a rona bottle https://www.facebook.com
[03:17:15] <systemd> ^ 03Beer Thug Life LLC. on Facebook Watch ( https://m.facebook.com )
[03:19:32] <requerdanos> also on topic, looks like I called the election the right way, https://www.nytimes.com
[03:19:33] <systemd> ^ 03Electoral College Vote Officially Affirms Biden’s Victory
[03:20:26] <requerdanos> I know some admit to being surprised by this result, and others won't admit it exists, of course.
[03:20:42] <requerdanos> "Gosh, how could we have known ahead of time" etc.
[09:13:45] <c0lo> Oh, wow. https://twitter.com
[09:13:46] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[09:17:36] <c0lo> Probs this is why the outdoor BBQ with the office guys got cancelled, they may have installed a field hospital in the park.
[09:17:48] * c0lo checks work email
[09:18:19] <c0lo> Nope. "The weather is going to be shit! So I have booked a space at the European Bier Café in the CBD."
[09:20:42] <c0lo> Well, less lamb and sausages, more beer. I think I'm gonna enjoy it, no mask and zero cases in the community for more days than I care to remember (after 35, who counts them?)
[09:23:52] <FatPhil> Well, we've had well over 35 days of more active cases every day, so there! Probably 55 now, but as you say, who's counting?! #WeWin
[09:24:42] * c0lo is sad to hear it. Fingers crossed
[09:28:15] <FatPhil> I think the bell-curve of new cases is starting to level off, but wouldn't be surprised if the streak continues for another month or so, as we wait for people to start recovering.
[09:30:33] <FatPhil> we're kinda adopting the Swedish approach now, I think. So it might be 10 times as bad in a month instead - who knows?
[09:31:00] <c0lo> I had to google it "This is the 46th straight day where Victoria has recorded zero daily community transmission cases. There are no new deaths." https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au
[09:31:01] <systemd> ^ 03Access Denied
[09:31:43] <FatPhil> We're still just slightly more "definitely brought in by fucking foreigners" cases than uncertain community spread.
[09:32:16] <FatPhil> Well done Victoria, >doffs hat<
[09:32:43] <FatPhil> We were like that in June/July
[09:33:41] <c0lo> Unfortunatelly, Estonia's not an island.
[09:43:03] <FatPhil> We did our best to keep the economy open, but forgot (a) how dependent it is on Russians; and (b) how fucking irresponsible fucking Russians are.
[09:43:46] <chromas> So even you guys aren't immune to Russian interference :D
[09:44:25] <FatPhil> have you seen the number of our politicians with surnames ending -ov and -sky?
[09:44:49] <chromas> Skye Skyovsky
[09:49:02] <c0lo> -sky is Polish, ain't it?
[09:49:54] <FatPhil> I shouldn't criticise, the most recent high profile politician to say "the government's not bloody doing anything while things are getting measurably worse" had a total text-book russkij name.
[09:50:11] <chromas> So they're Politishans then
[09:50:22] <FatPhil> -ski is more polish, -sky more russian.
[09:51:02] <FatPhil> note that polish is roman alphabet natively, and russian obviously not, so transliterations can very
[09:51:34] <chromas> Do the Poles have whiski?
[09:52:11] <FatPhil> wodka
[09:52:41] <FatPhil> Didn't you watch star trek? Whisky is russian!
[09:53:37] <chromas> I mostly only watched TNG. TOS had too much action; it was just like watching Star Wars
[09:56:21] <FatPhil> invented by a little old lady from leningrad, IIRC
[09:56:38] <FatPhil> According to Chekov, obvs.
[11:21:13] <c0lo> https://www.deseret.com
[11:21:15] <systemd> ^ 03Utah group demands A.G. Reyes apologize or resign over election lawsuit involvement
[11:23:00] <c0lo> (how does one even pronounce "Utahns"?)
[11:26:31] <FatPhil> ask Burt Rutan
[11:34:53] <c0lo> (in my mind, it sounded like the end of the urangutans. But, gosh, isn't 'hns' a weird group of letters?)
[11:44:14] <FatPhil> demijohns (and of course autobahns, but that's cheating)
[11:46:54] <FatPhil> Also in the middle of words, there's nothing odd about johnson. kahn can pluralise to kahns.
[13:00:17] <requerdanos> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[13:00:26] <systemd> ^ 03After electoral college backs Biden, Trump continues falsely insisting he won: ‘This Fake Election can no longer stand’
[13:01:28] <requerdanos> it's like groundhog day all over again: breaking news today, Biden wins US presidency, Trump loses presidency and his mind
[13:03:18] <chromas> Wasn't his mind already lost?
[13:11:13] <requerdanos> well, you would have thought so, but he seems to have some mind left to lose
[13:12:26] <chromas> maybe he's got a negative brain balance
[13:13:01] <chromas> 🧠(1)
[13:13:29] <requerdanos> Does he genuinely believe that the election was fake? or does he want others to believe it? I am not sure how to parse his output here
[13:16:50] <chromas> or just likes stirring shit, like on twitter
[13:18:07] <requerdanos> So just a troll, albeit a fairly highly placed one
[13:18:39] <chromas> it always was [space meme]
[13:20:26] <requerdanos> a troll in control of a significant fraction of the US congress by the look of things
[13:24:06] <chromas> well we had a nice four-year season of national trollin'. now Netflix canceled it and we'll have to find something else to watch
[13:37:58] <c0lo> "maybe he's got a negative brain balance" You know Trump has troubles of paying his lines of credit and yet a great talent to find more suckers to borrow from - perhaps it works with mind too.
[14:53:20] <c0lo> I'm tempted to submit this one, but I'll resist temptation https://www.forbes.com
[14:53:21] <systemd> ^ 03Foreign Adversaries Are Using Trump’s Voter Fraud Claims To Undermine Democracy, Intelligence Chief Says
[14:53:53] <chromas> 'forgein'
[14:54:02] <chromas> wow, I can't even scarequote right
[14:54:21] <chromas> anyhow, aren't we the best number one country at undermining democracy?
[15:03:53] <c0lo> #blame MSM
[15:04:03] <c0lo> No?
[15:04:16] <c0lo> !blame MSM
[15:04:45] <chromas> =blame
[15:04:45] * systemd points at Bytram
[15:04:59] <c0lo> =blame MSM
[15:05:00] * systemd points at c0lo
[15:05:20] * c0lo points at systemd
[15:07:58] <c0lo> Wanna bet, Bernie? https://twitter.com
[15:07:59] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[15:14:24] <c0lo> There, chromas, even Putin congratulates Biden before SCOTUS https://www.businessinsider.com
[15:14:25] <systemd> ^ 03Putin congratulates Joe Biden after Trump loses Electoral College - Business Insider
[15:15:04] <chromas> Aha! Russian collusion™!
[15:22:20] <c0lo> https://www.rawstory.com
[15:22:20] <systemd> ^ 03Republicans are furious with Trump for pocketing the money they need for the Georgia runoffs: MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt
[15:23:25] <c0lo> What stage number is anger in the grieving process?
[15:29:13] * c0lo is gonna zZᶻ
[16:12:32] <FatPhil> they were never intended to be sequential stages, so numbering them doesn't make sense.
[16:12:51] <FatPhil> chromas: it's spelt "forginas", get it right.
[21:22:48] <c0lo> https://www.theguardian.com
[21:22:50] <systemd> ^ 03Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell acknowledges Biden/Harris victory – video
[21:28:16] <pinchy> JEW-S-A
[21:41:00] <FatPhil> Coming from him, I'm almost tempted to consider it false!
[22:04:17] <pinchy> Big Anus Triumphant: Buttigieg Appointed Head of Transportation, Says He will “Deliver the Payload”
[22:20:36] <c0lo> FatPhil, there's a possibility, but it would be foolish for dems to have relied on it
[22:21:47] <c0lo> s/on it/on mitch conceding/
[22:21:47] <SedBot> <c0lo> FatPhil, there's a possibility, but it would be foolish for dems to have relied on mitch conceding