#US_Election | Logs for 2020-11-04

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[01:27:45] <Bytram> one problem I see w/ the YT page (or maybe I'm missing it?) what % of precincts have reportde?
[01:27:46] * Runaway1956_ yawns
[01:28:07] <FatPhil> If you find a better channel, please suggest it
[01:28:14] <pinchy> https://www.youtube.com
[01:28:23] <Runaway1956_> that's something of a problem Bytram - few pages show how complete any state's vote is
[01:28:36] <Bytram> was just hoping I was missing someting and someone could point it out to me
[01:29:09] <Runaway1956_> Is Texas winner take all?
[01:29:11] <FatPhil> What I do is guess the population, guess the voting population, guess the turnout, and then compare the sum with that 3-levels-of-gueswork target!
[01:29:23] <Bytram> =g fivethirtyeight election results
[01:29:24] <systemd> https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com - 2020 Election Forecast | FiveThirtyEight
[01:29:31] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: everywhere apart from ME and NE is winner takes all
[01:29:42] <Runaway1956_> That suxalot
[01:30:17] <FatPhil> You'll see the 2,3 districts in the stats grid (they've fixed NE now)
[01:30:52] <Bytram> what? that ME & NE are smart about their electoral votes? ;^)
[01:30:55] <Runaway1956_> I still see three Nebraskas
[01:31:17] <FatPhil> there used to be 3, now there are 4, because total=>senate
[01:31:47] <FatPhil> Why is a brit telling a yank how is traitorous political system works?!?!?!
[01:31:51] <FatPhil> +h
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[01:32:56] <Runaway1956_> *raspberries*
[01:33:45] <Bytram> FatPhil: Don't know how late you plan to stay up, but if I can help at all here in this channel, I'd be happy to do what I can (with the necessary perms, that is)
[01:34:01] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: You mean 3.14159's
[01:34:07] <Runaway1956_> down by the banks . . of the OH hio!
[01:34:23] <Runaway1956_> cobblers Bytram, no pie tonight
[01:34:43] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: s/c/g/
[01:35:04] <Bytram> FatPhil: /invite sedbot
[01:36:14] <FatPhil> nah! :)
[01:36:19] <Runaway1956_> "white voters without degrees" translates to "stupid people"
[01:36:57] <FatPhil> What states do we have represented on-chan?
[01:37:11] <RandomFactor> Gawgia
[01:37:37] <FatPhil> I can pretend to be NE, as the g/f's NE.
[01:37:50] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: Doesn't take a degree to rebuild a car engine or construct a house, but I'd not call them "stupid"
[01:37:54] <Runaway1956_> not actually Arkansas - I'm not typical Arkie
[01:38:44] <FatPhil> Very interesting swings from the pundits
[01:39:02] <RandomFactor> Young Turks are going off on Ohio trending blue
[01:39:24] <FatPhil> georgia ... hitch in tabulation of votes - waterpipe has broken
[01:39:48] <FatPhil> fulton county
[01:39:51] <Runaway1956_> LMAO @ brokenwater pipe
[01:40:03] <RandomFactor> Fulton Co. is a hot mess anyway.
[01:40:08] <Runaway1956_> Like - they can't move to a gubbermint building
[01:40:12] <FatPhil> Who flushed the cherrybomb?
[01:40:24] <Runaway1956_> TMB was making chilli
[01:41:29] <Bytram> =g johnny cash fulton
[01:41:30] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues (Live) - YouTube
[01:42:03] * Bytram thought it was *something* like that.
[01:42:24] * Runaway1956_ observes that he doesn't like any part of Atlanta area
[01:42:48] <Runaway1956_> Georgia is beautiful country outside the Atlanta loop
[01:43:08] <Runaway1956_> even if kinda rednecky
[01:43:20] <RandomFactor> Inside the loop isn't so rednecky
[01:43:43] <Runaway1956_> exactly - it's just asphalt hell inside
[01:44:47] <Runaway1956_> This is the page dear wife is watching - https://www.politico.com
[01:46:17] <Bytram> I mentioned this in the Site Summary story, but I think it bears mentioning, here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com
[01:46:34] <Bytram> =title on
[01:46:39] <Bytram> =titles on
[01:46:45] <Bytram> =help
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[01:47:15] <Runaway1956_> For fashion, the chick in the black dress with red flowers wins tonight
[01:47:18] <Bytram> =sedctl help
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[01:47:40] <Runaway1956_> need a space?
[01:47:52] <Runaway1956_> need channel ops
[01:47:52] <Bytram> know eye deer
[01:48:28] <Bytram> that's up to FatPhil -- hasn't deemed me worthy, I guess.
[01:48:46] <Bytram> ;)
[01:52:05] <Runaway1956_> Bytram is worth 3.14 fatphils
[01:52:42] <FatPhil> fat(sqrt(5)+1)/2l to you
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[01:53:27] <Runaway1956_> round root, unless you want cobbler
[01:54:09] <FatPhil> I'm infinite
[01:54:22] <Bytram> FatPhil: TYVM!
[01:54:32] <Runaway1956_> infinite pi may spoil before you can eat it
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[01:56:56] <Runaway1956_> it appears that sedctl is also disabled in #soylent
[01:59:01] <Bytram> nothing in my log files as to prior uses to work from, either.
[01:59:40] <Bytram> well, *that* did not work!
[02:00:21] <Bytram> =sed on
[02:00:35] <Bytram> s/=/x/
[02:01:11] <Bytram> aft; biab
[02:05:38] <Runaway1956_> Ya know - CBSN doesn't flaunt a liberal bias in your face -
[02:05:44] <Runaway1956_> they pretty decent actually
[02:06:08] <FatPhil> I can see the pro-blue bent
[02:09:18] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, it's there, but it's not so blatant as CNN for example
[02:09:35] <Runaway1956_> It's insulting to land on CNN
[02:10:34] <Runaway1956_> I'm glad there is only one Governor Abbot - that arsewipe is embarrasing
[02:10:54] <FatPhil> yeah, I can cope with this, I can see it and filter it out
[02:11:04] <Runaway1956_> A county larger than Delaware only has one drop box . . ..
[02:11:26] <tedious> What?
[02:11:38] <Runaway1956_> One drop box per county -
[02:11:43] <FatPhil> yea, pretty crazy, read about that a couple of weeks ago
[02:11:51] <tedious> THat's crazy!
[02:11:53] <Runaway1956_> and many counties in Texas are bigger than Delaware
[02:12:08] <FatPhil> Pug gov
[02:12:16] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, well, the Dems haven't monopolized all the idiots
[02:13:13] * Runaway1956_ has to note that some farms and ranches in Texas are larger than Delaware
[02:17:33] <FatPhil> Starting to get tired, it's 4:20 here, might retire soon
[02:17:49] <FatPhil> might leave the telly on, and just fall asleep to it
[02:18:51] <RandomFactor> certainly isn't looking like a blowout in any direction.
[02:19:36] <FatPhil> some pretty noticeable swings at least in some demographics
[02:20:24] <Runaway1956_> demographics - Dems don't automagically get the Latino vote, LOL
[02:20:39] <Runaway1956_> it seems that they almost take latinos for granted
[02:23:38] <Runaway1956_> Trumpster just moved up 1/2% in Texas - rural counties are starting to weigh in
[02:24:04] <FatPhil> that's how it happens every time
[02:29:11] <Runaway1956_> Maybe I do dishes, pour some more coffee . . .
[02:29:14] <FatPhil> PMs twitchy in all currencies
[02:30:19] <Runaway1956_> Why is Colorado such a sure thing already? They're on mountain time, right?
[02:31:32] <FatPhil> stoners, all asleep already
[02:31:46] <RandomFactor> I don't think in the entire time i've been in Georgia that Fulton has got their votes in on time.
[02:34:12] <Runaway1956_> Oh christ -- maybe I am getting senile - - map of NORTH Carolina, and I'm looking for Columbia . . . .
[02:34:17] * Runaway1956_ shakes head
[02:34:31] <FatPhil> at least some realism from the pundits
[02:39:16] <tedious> Do you know anything about betting sites and how they're already "calling it for Trump"?
[02:39:50] <tedious> That's what I heard 4th hand but I have no idea where it's coming from.
[02:40:12] <RandomFactor> No, RCP isn't showing betting odds last I looked
[02:42:03] <RandomFactor> 8:15 p.m.
[02:42:03] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:03] <RandomFactor> 53.1%
[02:42:03] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:03] <RandomFactor> 46.9%
[02:42:04] <RandomFactor> 8:45 p.m.
[02:42:04] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:05] <RandomFactor> 59.5%
[02:42:05] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:06] <RandomFactor> 40.5%
[02:42:06] <RandomFactor> 9:15 p.m.
[02:42:07] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:07] <RandomFactor> 48.4%
[02:42:08] <RandomFactor>
[02:42:48] <RandomFactor> as of 9:15pm EST odds were 48.4% biden, 51.2% Trump per 'actionnetwork.com'
[02:43:11] <Runaway1956_> Who is that woman in the black dress?
[02:43:20] <FatPhil> mitch has such a punchable face
[02:43:34] <Runaway1956_> I really like the dress - and she's nice lookiing too
[02:43:56] <FatPhil> at the telly now?
[02:43:58] <Runaway1956_> Lana?
[02:44:13] <Runaway1956_> They just took the camera off of her
[02:44:34] <FatPhil> yes, very easy on the eye
[02:44:50] <RandomFactor> must....resist.....eyecandy.....lure.....
[02:44:56] <Runaway1956_> Long ago I had a black western style shirt, had a green stem and a red rose up over the shoulder - looked very much like that dress
[02:45:00] <Runaway1956_> LMAO
[02:47:02] <RandomFactor> switched back to TYT, but they seem to be avoiding talking about anything useful now, interviewing some freshman Dem congressman from NY
[02:47:39] <FatPhil> TYT seem a bit "issues"-ey, happy with CBS
[02:49:08] <RandomFactor> i have four streams, needles and national maps running...and this chat
[02:49:47] <tedious> RandomFactor: Are there any reports of protests or violence?
[02:50:11] <tedious> That's really all I care about honestly.
[02:50:31] <RandomFactor> haven't been watching, but presumably so, it is a day ending in Y
[02:50:33] <tedious> Or worried about might be better to say.
[02:51:27] <FatPhil> BetFair Exchange has flipped its odds to 1.36 Trump (66%) and 2.88 Biden (34%)
[02:52:24] <FatPhil> vlc seems to not want to run 2 streams in parallel
[02:52:52] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, it kinda barfs when I try it too
[02:53:15] <Runaway1956_> I blame it on bandwidth, I have lots of CPU cores and memory, and a nice new vidya card
[02:53:56] <FatPhil> mute one of the streams?
[02:54:06] <FatPhil> that worked for me
[02:54:25] <FatPhil> now have stats and CBS simulcast
[02:55:20] <Runaway1956_> I have that stats page in Iron browser, VLC is running CBS with sound
[02:56:48] <FatPhil> and now drink along with Matt: http://www.youtube.com
[02:56:59] <Runaway1956_> Pennsylvania 50-49 Trump
[02:57:40] <FatPhil> Blu 45-51 Red here
[02:57:42] <tedious> Is that the voting total or odds?
[02:57:53] <Runaway1956_> voting total
[02:58:03] <Runaway1956_> 667 thousand to 699 thousand
[02:58:33] <tedious> Isn't Pennsylvania a big state with millions of voters?
[02:58:37] <Runaway1956_> ?????? they just swapped between three sets of numbers,
[02:58:42] <Runaway1956_> I'm not sure WTF now
[02:59:18] <Runaway1956_> I wasn't able to keep up with whatever they were saying about Penna
[02:59:54] <Bytram> =title on
[02:59:57] <Bytram> =titles on
[03:00:04] <Runaway1956_> =titties on
[03:00:31] <Bytram> !grab Runaway1956_
[03:00:55] <Runaway1956_> NO NO NO NOT LIKE THAT!
[03:03:40] <Runaway1956_> Guy in the blue jacket looks like a Bush cousin
[03:08:57] <FatPhil> Red 44-55 Blue in Ariz so far, early days
[03:10:13] <Bytram> It's been a long day from an early start. I suspect the results will be what they will be whether or not I watch them be reported. And, even then, it's safe bet that Trump will *claim* victory early and then wage a battle in the court of public opinion as well as in the actual courts.
[03:10:48] <Runaway1956_> Have a good one Bytram - nothing is going to change much before noon tomorrow
[03:11:30] <Runaway1956_> Kansas 53% red
[03:11:38] <Runaway1956_> Maine dead tie at the moment
[03:12:28] <Bytram> My guess is that come noontime (EST), things will still be up-in-the-air, and I would not be astonished if things were uncertain up to the weekend (or later).
[03:12:33] <Runaway1956_> LMAO at District of Columbia - Trump has like 3%
[03:13:33] <Bytram> "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." -- who knows him better than those who are closest to him?
[03:13:36] <Bytram> =g "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
[03:13:37] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - The Godfather 2 "Keep Your Friends Close, But Your Enemies Closer"
[03:14:00] <Bytram> =g "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." -Godfather
[03:14:01] <systemd> https://www.onlinejacc.org - Electrophysiological Effects of Atrial Epicardial Adipose Tissue ...
[03:14:11] <Runaway1956_> The dem lead in the senate races are shrinking
[03:14:22] <Runaway1956_> and Rs are ahead in the house
[03:14:38] <Runaway1956_> https://www.politico.com
[03:15:06] <FatPhil> g/f has an alarm for ~4 hours time, I think I'll retire now
[03:15:12] <FatPhil> thanks for the company
[03:15:14] Bytram changed topic of #US_Election to: Live stats: https://www.youtube.com ; CBS Punditry: https://www.youtube.com (logged) Also: https://www.politico.com
[03:15:29] <Bytram> FatPhil: thank YOU! Have a good night!
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[03:15:52] <Bytram> (or, well, morning at this point!)
[03:15:53] <Runaway1956_> nite-nite phil
[03:22:14] <RandomFactor> And on TYT it is already "Operation No-Honeymoon"
[03:23:08] <tedious> What does that mean?
[03:23:42] <RandomFactor> Assuming it goes as it appears and Trump wins, they will fight to make his life miserable from the outset.
[03:23:55] <tedious> :(
[03:24:09] <tedious> So that means protests and violence.
[03:24:29] <RandomFactor> As opposed to figuring out that they aren't selling what the people want and adjusting to it.
[03:24:49] <RandomFactor> Yeah, that's pretty much a given.
[03:26:07] <RandomFactor> Though TBH it's still way to early to start the crazy talk IMO, states are still likely to flip flop a few times.
[03:26:42] <RandomFactor> And how is California not called .00001 seconds after the polls closed?
[03:30:01] <tedious> Did they finish voting yet?
[03:30:52] <RandomFactor> Assuming they closed at 7
[03:32:24] <tedious> I don't know why it's legal to report results until all the polls have closed
[03:32:35] <RandomFactor> That I agree with.
[03:33:40] <tedious> It just seems like a guaranteed conflict.
[03:33:57] <RandomFactor> Bandwagon isn't how i want to choose my representatives.
[03:35:22] <Runaway1956_> Is it "tubberville" or "Tuber ville"
[03:35:36] <Bytram> According to: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com Last polls close
[03:35:36] <Bytram> 11 p.m. Eastern
[03:35:49] <Runaway1956_> Those few persons I know with that name pronounce it tuber ville
[03:36:13] <RandomFactor> Betting odds have completely flipped. 27.1 biden, 72.9 Trump as of 10minutes ago
[03:36:32] <Bytram> so, still another ~3- minutes until their polls are closed
[03:37:16] <RandomFactor> meh, ok. Not like it's in doubt anyway.
[03:37:50] <tedious> Do they have bets on what's going to happen in DC?
[03:38:08] <Runaway1956_> DC is dem, no questions
[03:38:14] <RandomFactor> yah
[03:38:24] <Runaway1956_> more than 90% dem
[03:38:33] <tedious> I mean the white house went into lockdown today didn't it?
[03:38:40] <Bytram> Okay, this time for sure. Have a good night everybody!
[03:38:43] <RandomFactor> last i heard
[03:38:45] <Runaway1956_> Oh - no I haven't seen any updates
[03:38:52] <tedious> Because there were "credible threats" of violence and stuff.
[03:38:59] <Runaway1956_> Bye again By
[03:39:12] <tedious> Night!
[03:39:21] <RandomFactor> yeah, think i'mma bag it also. Maybe pick my head up in a few hours and gaze at the screen for a moment.
[03:39:42] <tedious> Make sure you have your blue blocker running. :)
[03:40:26] <RandomFactor> it goes red at night automatically now, they added that functionality a year or two back
[03:41:00] <tedious> I turn mine off and forget to turn it back on sometimes. :)
[03:42:04] <pinchy> when in doubt, trump about
[03:43:10] Bytram changed topic of #US_Election to: Live stats: https://www.youtube.com ; CBS Punditry: https://www.youtube.com (logged) Also: https://www.politico.com AND https://fivethirtyeight.com
[03:43:24] * Bytram added: https://fivethirtyeight.com
[03:43:34] <Bytram> ciao!
[03:56:56] <Runaway1956_> Texas: "We keep looking at those changing demographics"
[03:57:22] <Runaway1956_> But they cannot absorb the fact that Latinos are mostly Catholic, and Catholics are more conservative people
[03:57:55] <Runaway1956_> They don't vote party so much, as they vote conservatively, which happens to align more with R
[04:07:10] <Runaway1956_> ?????? If I understood correctly, Philadelphia is leaning R?
[04:07:27] <Runaway1956_> If they go R, I believe the whole state will be R
[04:22:03] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
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[04:25:07] <pinchy> Runaway1956_: you ever vote on one of those machines you have levers you slide inside a booth with a curtain?
[04:26:14] <pinchy> I remember watching my mom vote on one of those when I was a little kid
[04:26:21] <Runaway1956_> No, never did - when Arkansas went electronic, they went immediately to touch screens
[04:26:36] <Runaway1956_> prior to that, we had paper ballots
[04:27:15] <Runaway1956_> And, before I came to Arkansas, all of my ballots were mail in
[04:28:07] <pinchy> Ive only voted once when ross perot was running against clinton. it was like those ACT tests you pencil in and stick it in a machine
[04:28:55] <Runaway1956_> I think that's how Florida got that hanging chad thing, lol
[04:29:25] <Runaway1956_> I've seen a lot of different voting machines on television, but have only ever seen one kind IRL
[04:29:33] <pinchy> the lever thing must have been the 83 or 84 whenever with reagan here in alabama
[04:30:01] <pinchy> they prolly went to paper a few years later
[04:35:35] <pinchy> I remember perot ran twice. 92 and 96. but there was one time he pulled out near the end then jumped back in and screwed everything up
[04:35:56] <pinchy> something about he didnt like threats being made against his family
[04:36:01] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, I remember that - I never quite forgave him for doing it
[04:36:29] <Runaway1956_> I did vote for Ross
[04:37:29] <pinchy> wasnt he sort of anti globalist? jews wouldnt allow that hah
[04:37:55] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, that was part of his campaign - 'Murica first
[04:38:00] <pinchy> he talked about something about putting a tax on gas to pay for whatever
[04:38:20] <pinchy> i thought he did a talk where he pulled out a chalk board to explain his point
[04:38:29] <pinchy> prolly the only candidate to do smething like that
[04:39:00] <Runaway1956_> I would have to look it all up to refresh my memory, his primary appeal, for me, he wasn't a D or R party guy
[04:50:44] <Runaway1956_> Senate control a tossup, 44 D 45 R
[04:51:01] <Runaway1956_> house control is currently 119 D to 144 R
[04:51:58] <Runaway1956_> And politico says 209 Biden EC votes against Trump's 120
[05:20:11] <tedious> New York Times has Biden at 189.
[05:21:00] <tedious> I think some of these guys are calling things way too early.
[05:58:56] <tedious> 187 to 165 after Florida and Iowa should get called soon too.
[06:12:11] <Runaway1956_> cbsn has 187 to 171 at the moment tedious
[06:12:38] <Runaway1956_> The numbers are looking believable
[06:13:02] <Runaway1956_> Florida and Penna are both going to be Trump states I think
[06:13:29] <tedious> I thought CBS already called Florida for Trump?
[06:13:46] <Runaway1956_> They did, then they walked it back
[06:14:00] <Runaway1956_> turned it white on their map
[06:15:15] <tedious> NYT is reporting 223 to 174.
[06:16:40] <Runaway1956_> jamey harrison just conceded to Lindsay Graham
[06:17:14] <Runaway1956_> joni ernst winning
[06:17:30] <Runaway1956_> tillis winning
[06:17:40] <Runaway1956_> collins winning
[06:17:56] <tedious> I barely know who any of these people are. :)
[06:18:10] <tedious> Oh they just called Texas for Trump.
[06:18:19] <Runaway1956_> montana could still go dem
[06:19:34] <Runaway1956_> politico puts control of the senate at a tie right now, 46 to 46
[06:20:24] <tedious> Do you think the senate will make any difference in the protests?
[06:20:34] <Runaway1956_> so Texas puts the EC at 187 - 209, still favoring Biden
[06:20:41] <tedious> I'm a noob at this political stuff.
[06:21:27] <Runaway1956_> I wish I knew more, but at the same time, the people who claim to know a lot are regularly proven wrong
[06:23:49] <Runaway1956_> now it's 196 to 209, I don't see what changed exactly
[06:24:45] <tedious> I just assumed after 2016 that polls were fake and used that as an excuse to ignore one more thing that's political.
[06:25:02] <Runaway1956_> Most of the polls are indeed fake
[06:25:04] <tedious> This stuff stresses me out.
[06:25:22] <Runaway1956_> polls are structured to sway opinion, rather than to measure opinion
[06:26:08] <tedious> "When did you stop beatig your wife?"
[06:26:24] <Runaway1956_> NEVER!!!! She likes it!
[06:26:52] <Runaway1956_> On alternate nights, she beats me, lol
[06:28:46] <Runaway1956_> The damned graphic has just flipped - Trump 209 and Biden 196
[06:28:51] <Runaway1956_> they keep fucking with me
[06:30:41] <tedious> NY Times keeps changing too.
[06:31:23] <tedious> Fox is calling Ohio and Florida for Trump and Arizona for Biden.
[06:31:46] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, I think Biden might have Arizona - but it's not sure yet
[06:38:20] <pinchy> ok runway, lay it on me. who da prezident?
[06:40:53] <Runaway1956_> IMO, Trump stays
[06:41:08] <Runaway1956_> if Biden wins, it's going to be really really close
[06:42:21] <Runaway1956_> and if Trump wins - many heads asssplode!!
[06:42:23] <pinchy> went for a walk tonight. usually more cars out and about around this time. but neighborhood sho is quiet
[06:42:36] <pinchy> I want to see that heifer cry out "NOOOOOO"
[06:42:43] <pinchy> like that inauguration
[06:42:47] <pinchy> shit will be awesome
[06:43:24] <Runaway1956_> What I would love to see as much as anything, is for Pelosi to lose her little ruler bitch role
[06:43:35] <Runaway1956_> I hate that bitch as much as I hate anyone
[06:44:05] <SoyCow7026> politico says biden 224 trump 213
[06:44:20] <Runaway1956_> Never forget her sitting behind Trump, making faces at him like a first grade child
[06:44:23] <pinchy> doesnt it usually turn out the congress will switch opposite of the president. which congress part is democrat vs republican? i forget senate vs house
[06:44:44] <pinchy> so if biden is elected the whatever will switch?
[06:45:19] <Runaway1956_> The senior and junior leadership changes depending on how many congress critters win seats
[06:45:28] <pinchy> like the impeachment. the one passed it but the other blocked it. and with clinton the 2 parts were reversed and got blocked the opposite way
[06:45:42] <Runaway1956_> I've heard some noise, non verifiable, that Pelosi will be booted no matter what happens
[06:45:57] <Runaway1956_> yeah, pretty much
[06:47:49] <Runaway1956_> CBSN keeps running a trailer talking about the low wages all around the country
[06:48:04] <Runaway1956_> nobody wants to name names like Mitt Romney who shipped real jobs to China
[06:48:42] <pinchy> also seeing the forum warz with runway and the commies on soylent will be amusing to see
[06:48:59] <Runaway1956_> now it's 207 to 210 Trump's favor
[06:49:18] <Runaway1956_> LOL - they wish they could intimidate me
[07:07:51] <FatPhil> looks pretty trumpy to me
[07:11:32] <Runaway1956_> https://www.youtube.com
[07:12:01] <Runaway1956_> they seem to be projecting a Trump win, 294 to 244
[07:12:35] <Runaway1956_> not sure why, no one else is making such a call yet
[07:13:24] <Runaway1956_> did a page refresh, still says the same
[07:23:02] <Runaway1956_> Trump speaking - let's see if he can stick his foot in his mouth . . . .
[07:24:28] <Runaway1956_> Yep - "we've won Georgia" foot in mouth
[07:25:11] <Runaway1956_> He's whining . . . this is getting embarrassing real fast . . .
[07:31:10] <SoyCow7026> Georgia - politico says 93% counted, Trump is 2.6% ahead. Biden would have to get four fifths of the uncounted remainder to win that.
[07:31:53] <Runaway1956_> Unlikely as it seems, that is possible because the uncounted votes are in urban democrat areas
[07:33:37] <SoyCow7026> Looks like the D's are going to get both the House and the Senate. Could be an interesting four (two?) years.
[07:34:17] <Runaway1956_> I'm not seeing Dems take the Senate, TBH
[07:34:44] <Runaway1956_> right now, the call is 47 to 46 in the R favor
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[07:35:08] <Runaway1956_> Rs need 3 to make it even, 4 to control the senate
[07:35:27] <Runaway1956_> I'm sure they have the 3, and I think they probably have 4
[07:36:29] <Runaway1956_> I can't really see how the Rs will take the House, so Pelosi will probably remain the poisoned snake in charge
[07:38:04] <deimtee> Haven't dug into the details. Politico was saying that. House looks like D. Senate R is 47 to 46, but they seem to be expecting that to flip.
[07:39:07] <Runaway1956_> Politico is one of the pages I have open - 47 R senators, and 46 D senators
[07:39:37] <Runaway1956_> CBSN on the other hand has accepted that the Rs will probably control the senate
[07:41:36] <Runaway1956_> The pundits have been really decent all night long - until Trump made his whiny little speech
[07:41:53] <Runaway1956_> now they are dumping on him, partly fairly, partly unfairly
[07:42:27] <tedious> I heard one complaining that Trump was politicizing the white house by staying there instead of going to a hotel tonight.
[07:42:33] <tedious> That's just stupid.
[07:43:00] <tedious> If he went running around town he'd probably start a riot.
[07:43:01] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, he actually does live there, even if Biden does win, lol
[07:43:20] <Runaway1956_> I've lost my stream dammit
[07:43:25] <tedious> That's the last thing we need.
[07:43:51] <tedious> That youtube link?
[07:44:01] <deimtee> If he went to a hotel they'd be claiming he was wasting taxmoney.
[07:44:02] <tedious> I never could get it to work for me.
[07:45:28] <deimtee> re youtube. yeah, all the "stream" channels say I need a newer browser. Click the info link and it says I'm up to date. I think it's the ad-blockers
[07:46:35] <pinchy> the jiggaboo blockers
[07:48:49] <Runaway1956_> had to restart VLC to get my stream back
[07:48:59] <Runaway1956_> https://www.youtube.com
[07:50:51] <Runaway1956_> Now that Trump has pissed them off, I'm hearing all the Dem talking points from the pundits
[07:59:43] <deimtee> Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. Which is bullshit.
[08:00:30] <tedious> I think there has been a change and now the knives are out. :(
[08:04:04] <deimtee> If I drop that url in mplayer it runs for four seconds and then locks up.
[08:08:03] <tedious> Try vlc or mpv?
[08:13:55] <deimtee> Sorry that was MPV. My main machine fell victim to lightning. Currently running puppy on a laptop. mpv is the only player installed. Tried copying the url a bunch of times in leafpad and pasting it in as a playlist. MPV plays a bunch of 4 second clips with gaps between them.
[08:24:04] <tedious> CNN says some county that has Atlanta in it just stopped counting at 10:30 tonight and went home.
[08:25:21] <tedious> If that turns into a big pile of mailin ballots being found in the trunk of a car this is going to make a whole lot of people fighting mad. :(
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[10:46:40] <FatPhil> “We believe we’re on track to win this election,” Biden says.
[10:46:54] <FatPhil> ok, that was a couple of hours ago
[13:12:15] <RandomFactor> Betting Odds 7:10am EST: Biden 68.4% Trump 31.6%
[13:30:09] <FatPhil> In a race that - one could argue - has come to symbolize the American electorate's feelings toward COVID-19 and the virus's impact on their votes, a "Trump Republican" running for a seat in North Dakota's state legislature has handily defeated his Democratic opponent - despite having succumbed to COVID-19 weeks ago.
[13:31:38] <FatPhil> I told my g/f pansy-assed little sister to put a $100 bet on trump 6 months ago. And again 3 months ago. And again a month ago. And again last week. And again 2 days ago. All the time the odds were 2:1.
[13:31:53] <FatPhil> Can you tell from the swearing whether she did or not?
[13:32:40] <FatPhil> Can we finally get Nate Silver to eat his cock on TV. (Or was that John McAfee?)
[13:41:00] <RandomFactor> What was this Nate Silver person predicting?
[13:54:42] <RandomFactor> And...why do we care?
[13:56:55] <FatPhil> the last thing he said was that he thought that there was a 90% chance of a biden win.
[13:57:14] <FatPhil> And we care because all of the mass media hold him up as the ultimate in gurus.
[13:57:32] <FatPhil> How the fuck have you not heard of Nate Silver, the mind boggles.
[13:57:39] <FatPhil> You do have news over there, don't you?
[14:18:12] <RandomFactor> It's looking like a Biden win however.
[14:18:47] <RandomFactor> Assuming Michigan flips on mail in ballots that's the ball game.
[14:20:24] <RandomFactor> Also by 'mass media' i assume you mean 'mainstream media' which would explain him being happily ignored by such as myself.
[14:31:12] <Bytram> =g Nate Silver
[14:31:13] <systemd> https://fivethirtyeight.com - Nate Silver – FiveThirtyEight
[14:31:20] <Bytram> wg Nate Silver
[14:31:24] <Bytram> =w Nate Silver
[14:31:25] <systemd> by ABC Nate Silver's Baseball Prospectus article archive (2003–2009) Nate Silver's The Burrito Bracket (2007) Other publications Nate Silver, &quot;The Most - https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:33:27] <Bytram> Basically, AFAICT, a statistician with a following who seems to have solid data (or clearly explains how unclear the data is) to support various prognostications.
[14:34:30] <Bytram> as I suspected, results are not yet in. I fully expect that things will remain undecided throughout today.
[15:16:34] <Bytram> and quite possibly, through the rest of the week. (I think I alluded to that in my state of our site story?)
[15:16:40] <Bytram> gtg; back later
[15:20:25] <FatPhil> Michigan's mail ballots seemed to kick in in the hours of dawn, and didn't pull the blue line up to equal the red one, so I don't think there's enough flip potential there.
[15:23:13] <FatPhil> That's just from eyeballing the graphs.
[15:24:06] <FatPhil> Pugloons are wailing about it being fraud, predictably, but paranoiacs gotta be paranoiacs.
[15:32:34] <Runaway1956_> Looks to me like 48 to 48 for the senate, with two independents - those independents are going to have a lot of power
[15:33:00] <Runaway1956_> sorry 49 to 49
[15:34:50] <RandomFactorAtWork> Fraud is entirely expected and fairly routine. However the amount of fraud is generally kept low enough in the US that if you win by a significant margin it doesn't affect the outcome. It only makes much difference if the election is close to begin with. In that regard this is certainly a close enough election for shenanigans to swing it one way or the other.
[15:44:24] <Runaway1956_> Governor Wolfe and his sec of state on CBSN now - I'm amused at the ritual handwashing, face masks come off and on,
[15:44:41] <Runaway1956_> They are zealots for the Church of Covid.
[15:45:05] * Runaway1956_ would probably stay in trouble if he still lived in Penna
[15:47:03] <Runaway1956_> Huh - they called Alaska and Hawaii early this morning - now Alaska is undecided again
[15:47:06] <FatPhil> Technically the fraud levels are high enough that you really ought to have independent international election overseers to quell, or support, people's qualms.
[15:48:00] <RandomFactorAtWork> Hearing analysis - Trump overperformed the polls at a historic level, it is actually worse for polling than 2016, regardless of winner.
[15:48:45] <FatPhil> Some of the perceived fraud might simply be that the US is a country where significant proportions of the country are ashamed of whom they're voting for. Which isn't fraud, but definitely needs a spotlight on it for lulz instead.
[15:49:17] <Runaway1956_> Well, I proudly vote third party routinely, LOL
[15:49:27] <Runaway1956_> It's my "fuck you" gesture
[15:49:31] <RandomFactorAtWork> It's more like PA accepting mail-in ballots up to 3 days after the election, even if they have no clear postmark and not segregating them so that a court decision can't exclude them.
[15:54:10] <Runaway1956_> I'm about sick of that "path" phrase - nobody has a path to follow, the voters have voted, now the votes need to be counted
[15:55:40] <pinchy> who da winner?!
[15:56:03] <Runaway1956_> no winners, one whiner
[15:57:17] <Runaway1956_> Rs may retain control of the senate, but it will be really close - maybe 51
[15:57:33] <Runaway1956_> Rs are gaining some house seats, but not enough to make any real difference
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[16:09:30] <Runaway1956_> Kim Klacik has clearly lost
[16:20:45] <Runaway1956_> This one is worth a laugh
[16:20:49] <Runaway1956_> https://www.zerohedge.com
[16:31:33] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://sputniknews.com
[16:31:36] <systemd> Submitting "Puerto Rico Votes to Be Admitted as 51st US State in Statehood Referendum, Reports Say"...
[16:31:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Puerto Rico Votes to be Admitted as 51st US State in Statehood Referendum, Reports Say" (3 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:33:51] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://reason.com
[16:33:52] <systemd> Submitting "On Election Night, the Real Winner Was Drugs"...
[16:34:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03On Election Night, the Real Winner Was Drugs" (51 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:34:25] <FatPhil> I noticed that ZH headline as I scrolled down the page, but as I scrolled back up clicking on the interesting sounding ones, I somehow failed to click on it.
[16:35:11] <FatPhil> I think my brain was saying "LOL - Democrats will learn nothing from this!"
[16:35:43] <Runaway1956_> If Dems were smart, Biden wouldn't be under discussion today
[16:36:07] <Runaway1956_> it should have been easy to find a candidate who would blow Trump away
[16:36:09] <FatPhil> If they went from Crooked Hillary to Sleepy Joe, they're clearly so far beyond any capability of perceiving reality
[16:36:51] <Runaway1956_> West concedes defeat - suggests he might run again in 4 years
[16:37:22] <FatPhil> Tulsi was the strongest candidate by my application of many metrics.
[16:37:37] <FatPhil> I don't use all the same metrics, and all measurements have error.
[16:37:49] <Runaway1956_> Ditto - they needed a moderate badly
[16:39:44] <FatPhil> I think Buttjudge appeared moderate, but was machine-lite. Trying to persaude the masses he wasn't just part of the kodos-kang meatgrinder aparatus, but deep down he was still on the same strings.
[16:40:10] <Runaway1956_> I can't ever do more than laugh at Buttplug
[16:41:49] <Runaway1956_> Oh - what about Ilhan Muslim Omar? Haven't seen her results
[16:42:56] <Runaway1956_> she won "easily" with her vote harvesting campaign
[16:49:44] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://reason.com
[16:49:45] <systemd> Submitting "California Voters Reject Race, Sex, Ethnic Preferences in Government Employment, Education, and Contracting"...
[16:50:07] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08California Voters Reject Race, Sex, Ethnic Preferences in Government Employment, Education, and Cont" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:24:16] <Runaway1956_> Damn, Nevada is down to a nose hair! Not even the nose, just a nose hair.
[17:25:46] <Runaway1956_> And, neither candidate has a mustache or beard that might offer an advantage in a nose hair race, LOL
[17:28:45] <FatPhil> I have *nothing* positive to say about Omar.
[17:29:07] <Runaway1956_> In a choice between two shit sandwiches, the chunky sandwich won -
[17:29:10] <Runaway1956_> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[17:29:52] <FatPhil> Not strictly true. I could stretch to such complements as "she is able to stand up unassisted".
[17:30:23] <Runaway1956_> I woudln't count that on the plus side Fatphil
[17:30:49] <RandomFactor> They would be better off without a mayor
[17:31:14] <Runaway1956_> I don't know their dog catcher, but he would probably be better
[17:32:29] <Runaway1956_> The Uber-Lyft vote in Cal sucks ass
[17:43:20] <pinchy> https://media.discordapp.net
[17:45:32] <Runaway1956_> Pinchy - all night long, mail-in votes have favored Dems, while in-person voting has favored Trump, in almost every state
[17:46:02] <Runaway1956_> Dems have been telling their people from the very first to vote by mail, while Rs have been telling people to vote in person
[17:46:15] <Runaway1956_> so - logical consequences it seems
[17:48:43] <pinchy> I want to get on ADLs antisemite list when I grow up
[17:49:01] <Runaway1956_> Fuck that - I won't grow up!
[18:01:28] <FatPhil> Donny actively tried to ban postal votes and persuade pugs from wasting their vote that way.
[18:01:55] <pinchy> yall wake me up when ya know who really won
[18:14:43] <Runaway1956_> Jesus, they keep harping on "the Latino vote is not monolithic"
[18:14:56] <Runaway1956_> I've been trying to tell people that for more than ten years
[18:15:32] <Runaway1956_> We're also seeing some evidence that the black vote is less monolithic than it was thirty years ago
[18:39:43] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[18:40:24] <FatPhil> Oi! Learn some history! LBJ ownz all the [melanin-heavy] votes
[18:43:45] <Runaway1956_> You mean Massah LBJ, right?
[18:46:34] <Runaway1956_> I'm about ready to call Georgia and North Carolina - both are well over 90% counted now
[19:10:40] <pinchy> when did they know trump won the election for 2016? was it know for sure the next morning?
[19:22:01] <FatPhil> ye olde bigge wange himself, yup
[19:23:13] <FatPhil> He asked for 200 years, they agreed, which means they still owe him 140. Every last one of them.
[19:23:54] <FatPhil> (do not correct my history, if you do, you'll get a slap)
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[20:27:35] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[20:59:21] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[21:05:17] <FatPhil> numberstory (the stats chan i used last night) is predicting...
[21:05:21] <FatPhil> President Pelosi!
[21:08:21] <pinchy> TRS 666 next week woohoo
[21:09:12] <FatPhil> Oooh, great punditry, chromas! Looks like Trump's won Ontario *and* Manitoba. Presidency almost certain now, at least of one country, maybe two.
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[22:36:23] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[22:41:17] <RandomFactor> Are they taking odds on how long Biden lasts yet?
[22:46:50] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[22:47:59] <pinchy> https://cdn.discordapp.com
[23:13:50] <FatPhil> as an alive human being?
[23:14:14] <FatPhil> I've seen Reanimator, I'm sure they can pump something into him to keep him going.
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[23:45:44] <Runaway1956> Well, they gave Michigan and Wisconsin to Biden I see - 253 to 213
[23:46:40] <Runaway1956> Robocalls
[23:47:31] <Runaway1956> and Qanon
[23:49:48] <pinchy> https://i.imgur.com
[23:52:13] <SoyGuest98723> Who is "they" at this point? The authority responsible for elections within that state? i.e. an "official" result?
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[23:55:26] <pinchy> da j00s
[23:55:43] <FatPhil> Trump is gonna go full overpriced NY Lawyer on MI and WI, I'm pretty sure.
[23:56:31] <FatPhil> Is he doing the "I told you so" thing yet?
[23:56:52] <FatPhil> Because he did say this would happen even if this hasn't actually happened.