#test | Logs for 2021-10-22
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[22:07:14] -!- mode/#test [+o Deucalion] by Artemis
[22:07:14] -!- mode/#test [+v Deucalion] by irc.sylnt.us
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[22:07:14] -!- mode/#test [+v Deucalion] by Artemis
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[22:06:41] -!- mode/#test [+o Deucalion] by Artemis
[22:06:41] -!- mode/#test [+v Deucalion] by irc.sylnt.us
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[22:06:41] -!- mode/#test [+v Deucalion] by Artemis
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[21:59:28] <chromas> fascism is cool with the anti-fash crowd right now though
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[21:55:50] -!- mode/#test [+v joggs] by Artemis
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[21:38:30] <Deucalion> .....some time later.... I realise I became a fascist sympathiser right at that point in time in hindsight.... I only wish I had known at the time by.... thinking things through as responsible adults should... at least they were expected to back in those days... :/.
[21:36:34] <Deucalion> Hey... let's do an irc thing for imposing bans that weights in reputation before a user can speak based on AI.... we can make millions.
[21:33:51] <Deucalion> Choose any popular GUI IRC client... they all have such menus to clicky on. All equally ineffective in the long run as they all just trade on nick and ip... cos that's how irc works.... until you get into trust... and then we are into crappy for money trust circles.
[21:28:31] <chromas> they also probably don't use hexchat
[21:28:08] <Deucalion> Which brings me full circle. Lazy ops want a magic red button they can press that makes the "bad" person go away. Life doesn't work like that.
[21:24:54] <Deucalion> I'd argue the right click "Operator Actions" menu in Hexchat is more useful than using FANTASY.... lots of options... but again the options need people to understand what al the *!*@host!..... blah means...
[21:22:32] -!- mode/#test [+v joggs] by Artemis
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[21:21:48] <Deucalion> FANTASY is lazy Op that does not want to type out or learn /cs blah blah... they want to just .myitch gone. Much like The right click menus in HexChat... what do they execute?
[21:19:37] <Deucalion> OK. So it's fine to pick at how FANTASY is flawed (and I guess that is why many do not use it).... but can we come up with better behaviour......
[21:18:26] <chromas> oh yeah
[21:18:01] <Deucalion> So Bytram can look at it after the fact and tell us how we are shit at QA :D
[21:17:57] -!- mode/#test [-o chromas] by chromas
[21:17:46] -!- mode/#test [+v Loggie] by Artemis
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[21:17:08] -!- Loggie was kicked from #test by Artemis!Artemis@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(chromas) No reason given]
[21:17:08] -!- mode/#test [+b *!*@Soylent/BotArmy] by Artemis
[21:17:08] <chromas> .kickban Loggie
[21:16:20] <Deucalion> That'd be all our bots gone
[21:16:09] <Deucalion> * Artemis sets ban on *!*@Soylent/BotArmy
[21:15:58] <Deucalion> No...
[21:15:49] <chromas> for joggs?
[21:15:35] <Deucalion> I hope that is just an obfuscation in the display
[21:14:55] <chromas> so if the nick's not here, it just uses the parameter as the vhost
[21:14:49] <Deucalion> Oh wow....
[21:14:31] -!- mode/#test [-b *!*@Soylent/BotArmy] by Artemis
[21:14:31] <chromas> .unban Bender
[21:14:28] -!- mode/#test [+b *!*@Soylent/BotArmy] by Artemis
[21:14:28] <chromas> .ban Bender
[21:14:18] -!- mode/#test [-b *!*@fartcopter] by Artemis
[21:14:18] <chromas> .unban *!*@fartcopter
[21:14:07] <chromas> maybe 'cause the nick's not here
[21:14:06] -!- mode/#test [+v joggs] by Artemis
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[21:13:48] <chromas> works for thee, but not for me
[21:13:30] <chromas> can't unban the same way you ban
[21:13:29] <Deucalion> .unban joggs
[21:13:25] -!- mode/#test [-b *!*@amvl26-222-208-04.range40-891.btcentralplus.com] by Artemis
[21:13:25] <Deucalion> .unban joggs
[21:13:19] <chromas> now that's the really dumb part
[21:13:10] <chromas> .unban fartcopter
[21:13:02] -!- mode/#test [+b *!*@fartcopter] by Artemis
[21:13:02] <chromas> .ban fartcopter
[21:12:36] <Deucalion> .ban joggs
[21:11:12] <chromas> Don't need all possible variations, but it's more convenient to use .ban instead of /ban I guess
[21:10:42] <chromas> Well mostly we just want to ban by nick
[21:09:49] <Deucalion> How the fuck do you ban variations on a nick without a horrific hit to false positives?
[21:08:58] <Deucalion> For what some people around here seem to want we'd need .kickbanregex 'mymagicregex'!mymagicregex'@* unless foo==February
[21:06:48] <Deucalion> So the user just gets a different IP and rejoins.....
[21:05:53] <Deucalion> But you know if you kick ban a nick, the user will just /nick oldnick1 and rejoin. So it bans any nick at the IP.
[21:04:04] <Deucalion> shush
[21:03:56] <Deucalion> .kickban could just ban the nick as logically you'd think.
[21:03:03] <Deucalion> Not really.... .kick should just kick the nick from the channel... they are free to rejoin. It's the warning shot.
[20:50:03] <chromas> Maybe VPNs and proxies didn't exist back the
[20:49:34] <chromas> it's weird that it goes by vhost instead of the part it was told to ban by
[20:41:48] * Deucalion goes log diving
[20:40:10] -!- joggs was kicked from #test by Artemis!Artemis@dodekatheon.olympus.gr [(Deucalion (juggs)) No reason given]
[20:40:10] -!- mode/#test [+b *!*@amvl26-222-208-04.range40-891.btcentralplus.com] by Artemis
[20:40:10] <Deucalion> .kickban joggs
[20:39:54] <joggs> HAHAHA
[20:39:49] -!- mode/#test [+v joggs] by Artemis
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[20:39:22] <Deucalion> .kick joggs
[20:38:58] -!- mode/#test [+v joggs] by Artemis
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