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[11:31:43] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, ho
[11:31:45] <xlefay> hi*
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[15:02:38] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: ping
[15:06:08] <paulej72> ping pong gong
[15:08:01] <paulej72> hi hooo, hi hoooo, it off to work we go
[15:08:26] * mrcoolbp whistles
[15:22:22] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, yo
[15:22:39] <mrcoolbp> g'mornin xlefay
[15:22:50] * mrcoolbp looks at the world clock
[15:22:51] <mrcoolbp> er
[15:23:02] <xlefay> g'afternoon ;)
[15:23:30] <mrcoolbp> yup, so did you get my email?
[15:23:46] <xlefay> Yes I did, I haven't looked into it yet though
[15:24:42] <mrcoolbp> okay, well from what I could tell they don't have a name-your-price option
[15:25:40] <xlefay> That's rather unfortunate. I think I'll send them a mail and see if it's possible somehow
[15:26:06] <mrcoolbp> go for it
[15:27:55] <mrcoolbp> I'm not sure about the custom UID products, I'd have to do those one at a time and it would be a PITA, so if they were around $50-60, it might deter enough people to make it feasable
[15:28:03] <xlefay> UID products?
[15:28:16] <xlefay> e.g. products for individual users?
[15:28:21] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[15:28:56] <xlefay> The price has to reflect the amount of work required.
[15:29:55] <xlefay> e.g. if someone wants a mug with their uid, and it'd cost you, 15 or 30 minutes or so to make it (not sure how you make those things via cafepress, I'm assuming they've got a neat, simple interface to do so) - then, > $30 isn't too much
[15:30:15] <mrcoolbp> Right. Unfortunately it would be a PITA for the user as well; they'd have to make the request of us, I'd have to setup the product when I have time, then they'd have to go order the product after I set it up
[15:30:28] <xlefay> Yes, so that's not useful
[15:30:34] <mrcoolbp> not ideal
[15:30:47] <xlefay> Exactly, perhaps - there are better ways to handle that.
[15:30:59] <xlefay> Are there not alternatives to cafepress? If so, have we considered those?
[15:31:27] <mrcoolbp> there is "Zazzle" but I hated their landing page so much I didn't get farther then that
[15:31:28] <xlefay> http://alternativeto.net
[15:35:17] <xlefay> from the looks of it, *at first glance* the only alternative that *seems* reasonable is printfection
[15:35:30] <mrcoolbp> yup, that's what I'm looking at now
[15:35:48] <mrcoolbp> it looks like it would take some startup capital though
[15:36:15] <xlefay> I think it's reasonable if we first outline what we want, what we need & if there are costs, what our budget is?
[15:36:29] <mrcoolbp> they differ from cafepress in that it looks like you still order in bulk (meaning the pricing/item will likely be much better but that we take the upfront cost of printing a bunch of items)
[15:36:38] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: we are broke
[15:36:44] <xlefay> Yes, I've noticed that
[15:37:33] <xlefay> but that might not be an issue, we could feel around in the community if people even want merchandise (of course, at least a few want) and what they feel is reasonable for price.
[15:37:47] <xlefay> And you could, even, accept a few pre-orders, so you know, we can afford it
[15:37:58] <xlefay> just floating that idea
[15:38:12] <mrcoolbp> though cafepress's pricing is kinda terrible, there's absolutely no up-front costs, it's a much simpler solution
[15:38:26] <xlefay> That's true, but is it a long-term solution that's proper for us?
[15:38:48] <xlefay> I'd rather take $100 or so out of my own pocket than go with a solution that isn't proper for us long term
[15:38:54] <mrcoolbp> well it's set-and-forget
[15:39:25] <mrcoolbp> looks like printfection might be too though
[15:39:39] <xlefay> It does appear pintfection is a bit expensvie though
[15:39:50] <mrcoolbp> me hasn't seen the prices yet
[15:40:21] <xlefay> http://www.printfection.com it's a comparison mostly
[15:41:11] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: 500 t-shirts: $5,920
[15:41:21] <mrcoolbp> that's what I mean about up-front costs
[15:41:27] <xlefay> yeah, that's the "expensive" part x'D
[15:41:37] <xlefay> Unfortunately, that's a lot more than $100 haha
[15:41:49] <mrcoolbp> so, I wouldn't mind $100 from my poket but I don't think I could swing that
[15:41:53] <xlefay> So cafepress is the only one that we can actually use as it stands
[15:42:04] <mrcoolbp> I didn't look into zazzle yet
[15:42:17] <mrcoolbp> I could try wrestling with their web page again
[15:42:24] <xlefay> I think zazzle is a lot like cafepress last I heard anyway
[15:42:26] <xlefay> let's take a look
[15:42:32] <xlefay> http://www.zazzle.com
[15:46:19] <xlefay> http://www.zazzle.com
[15:46:20] <xlefay> xD
[15:49:31] <xlefay> "Become an Associate. Take your business to the next level: become an Associate and drive traffic to Zazzle from your own web site. With each purchase from a referred customer, you'll earn a 15% commission. And if that customer buys your products, you'll earn that 15% referral on top of whatever royalty you set! That's a minimum of 25% in earnings!"
[15:49:35] <xlefay> That's a nice bonus
[15:49:54] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, looking through help.zazzle.com [ http://help.zazzle.com ]
[15:50:11] * mrcoolbp is setting up a store to investigate prices
[15:50:42] <xlefay> Check the page I linked
[15:50:57] <xlefay> "Earn money. With Zazzle's "Name Your Royalty" program, you can specify how much you make on every sale of your products on Zazzle. That's right - if you say you want to make 20%, you'll make 20% of the sale. If you want to make 50%, you'll make 50% of the sales price. But the higher the royalty, the higher the sales price."
[15:51:12] <xlefay> Up & down side, I suppose
[15:52:09] <mrcoolbp> that's same as cafepress but using a % rather then a dollar amount above base price
[15:52:58] <xlefay> Indeed
[15:53:29] <mrcoolbp> I can't figure out how to create products in my store, it just keeps saying "Add To Cart"
[15:53:39] <xlefay> Are you signed in?
[15:53:45] <mrcoolbp> yup
[15:54:06] <xlefay> http://help.zazzle.com
[15:54:43] <xlefay> That help?
[15:54:56] <xlefay> http://www.zazzle.com
[15:56:29] <mrcoolbp> I found it, you have to click a small "post for sale" button
[15:57:05] <xlefay> haha
[15:57:09] <xlefay> http://www.webjess.com
[15:57:26] <xlefay> just googling around to see the general opinion, thinks we can keep in mind - and test for ourselves
[15:57:32] <xlefay> ourself*
[16:02:12] <mrcoolbp> xlefay: they seem relatively comparable, but I'll note this particular review is saying zazzle's products might be a little bit higher quality
[16:02:32] <xlefay> mrcoolbp, so far, all links I've opened favor zazzle
[16:06:49] <xlefay> I have to go, I'll catch up with you later mrcoolbp :)
[16:07:02] <mrcoolbp> okay, take it easy
[16:16:02] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: we could create Where in the World is NCommander swag
[16:16:25] <paulej72> have a map with pins for each location he as been recently :)
[16:16:30] <mrcoolbp> hahaha
[16:17:14] * mrcoolbp is making breakfast
[16:17:55] <paulej72> lunch time here, what should I do?
[16:18:20] * paulej72 poders ordering pizza because he is a lazy slug
[16:24:05] <mrcoolbp> that sounds yummy
[16:24:22] * mrcoolbp reads the incorp. post draft
[17:04:06] <NCommander> paulej72, mrcoolbp: you'd need a lot of pins
[17:04:52] <mrcoolbp> yeah I'm not sure that would be feasable to update regularly, plus you wouldn't really see the map underneath the pins
[17:05:50] <paulej72> I was thinking just from the SN epoch
[17:06:45] <mrcoolbp> So...Panama, Macau, Taiwan?, Ny, Boston, NH, AK
[17:07:02] <mrcoolbp> I'm sure there's a BUNCI'm missing
[17:07:14] <mrcoolbp> ack, stupid insert key
[17:07:28] * mrcoolbp physically removes the insert key from his keyboard
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[17:32:30] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: Buffalo, all his stop-overs for longer flights
[17:33:10] <mrcoolbp> yup
[17:34:08] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I will probably setup a basic store with 5-10 items tops, multiple price tiers, I might even try out two different marketplaces to see what people like better
[17:34:34] <mrcoolbp> from there I'm sure there will be plenty of feedback that we could improve from
[17:36:40] <paulej72> mrcoolbp: I think we sould look into zazzle, I was not too happy with CP’s hats and they had no usb drives
[17:36:54] * mrcoolbp looks for usb drives on zazzle
[17:37:27] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: CP has better prices on the mugs, so I will probably keep the SN CP Mug store open
[17:37:45] <mrcoolbp> I need to setup a store on zazzle now
[17:40:33] <mrcoolbp> paulej72: I don't see usb drives here, but we wanted to pre-load them with the dev VM, we could do that separately down the road
[17:41:22] <paulej72> I got the dev vm on github so we don’t really need to do this.
[17:41:47] <mrcoolbp> oh
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[22:38:19] <paulej72> audioguy: juggs seemed to have messed up his mail password. Can you reset it for him
[22:39:23] <juggs> yup - I suspect I used some punctuation it didn't like or stripped out ~shrug~
[22:57:37] <xlefay> paulej72, juggs does the password reset still need to happen?
[22:58:41] <xlefay> I need to leave in a few minutes but I can reset it if you like
[22:59:28] <juggs> yes please xlefay
[22:59:52] <xlefay> PM
[23:04:15] <xlefay> juggs's all set ;)
[23:04:24] <xlefay> G'night! & Take care!