#soylent | Logs for 2026-06-02
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[03:40:53] <kolie2> I'm seeing much better container health in oldhash.
[06:13:47] <chromas> Containers for the Python edition should be called pylons, then when we need moar capacity you just construct additional pylons
[06:25:27] <janrinok> chromas, we're too late https://pylonsproject.org
[06:25:28] <systemd> ^ 0303Welcome to the Pylons Project
[07:35:29] <inz> YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
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[14:26:18] <Ingar> not enough vespene gas
[14:32:02] <kolie2> What do I look like, an orc?
[14:50:31] <kolie2> I'm getting ready to push out some updates to rehash-dev.
[15:13:30] <janrinok> I've just added 3 error reports.
[15:28:30] <kolie2> The AB runner has 600+ test it runs through takes a minute.
[15:28:55] <kolie2> probably dont need to run it every time ><
[15:36:19] <kolie2> The firehose one is interesting - that table exists in production I wonder if dev doesn't have it.
[16:12:32] <kolie2> thats what I get for testing vs production and not dev ><
[16:16:57] <kolie2> janrinok, build pushed.
[16:17:06] <kolie2> should address everything report in the journal.
[16:25:35] <kolie2> found a comment posting bug.
[16:43:22] <kolie2> also fixed. logging in from the comment box not working tho so fixing that too.
[17:01:27] <kolie2> cool in line login worked as well.
[18:20:11] <kolie2> Weird on the error replying to a journal, I pass that one, I'm looking at your specific trace rn.
[19:30:12] <janrinok> PyHash doesn't seem to be counting comments in some cases. I haven't yet pinned down which do and which don't...
[19:35:05] <janrinok> I think comments are counted/displayed in indivual stories, but not on the front page.
[19:35:42] <janrinok> Stories that were published before PyHash show counts.
[20:02:44] <kolie2> yea there is a task that does it i know what to tweak
[20:04:31] <kolie2> Can you take a picture of this one ( highlight the two areas mentioned ) and image paste it to paste.ennwise.com
[20:04:31] <kolie2> When I try to select a story from the story queue to carry out the 2nd Edit, there are 2 possible ways to select the story. 1. Pressing the comment index at the very start of the line (this works), and 2. Clicking the story link itself (doesn't work and results in an Error screen (https://dev.soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=26/06/02/1830246)
[20:04:37] <systemd> ^ 0303Error
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[20:07:11] <kolie2> ari my boi
[20:07:24] <kolie2> hows your doodle.
[20:08:32] <aristarchus> Quite well, thank you. Not in Mississippi.
[20:09:06] <kolie2> idk much about that side of the country.
[20:12:03] <aristarchus> Ref to current journal entry that is ragging some residents of France.
[20:16:33] <kolie2> in that case im as far as mississippi as it gets haha
[20:16:52] <aristarchus> Sorry I cannot help on debugging the conversion. My account on dev has been buggered.
[20:17:34] <kolie2> idk anything about that sorry d00d.
[20:18:36] <kolie2> I think your sekrit admirer fanboi'd you.
[20:23:20] <aristarchus> He does seem to be obsessed. It's like I was Sabrina Carpenter, only taller,
[20:24:28] <kolie2> i'd hit it.
[20:24:47] <kolie2> with a bat.
[20:34:24] <aristarchus> And, he posted enough details about his house, that Zillow provides a street address! OpSec, people!
[20:36:16] <kolie2> who gives a shit about his address
[20:37:05] <aristarchus> Not me, of course.
[20:37:16] <kolie2> you mention it a lot
[20:37:20] <kolie2> for someone who doesn't give a shit.
[20:39:42] <aristarchus> I am concerned about the doxing of soylentils!
[20:39:54] <kolie2> clearly.
[20:41:31] <kolie2> janrinok, I think the 2nd edit you mentioned, If I understand what you are trying to do, works.
[20:41:42] <kolie2> If not, send a picture of it highlighted plz.
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[21:29:54] <kolie_> Cool.
[21:30:34] <kolie_> Got all fixes in judt about except the hr on original submissionz
[22:27:17] <AlwaysNever> is aristarchus no longer a non-grata persona?
[22:28:00] <AlwaysNever> kolie2: what's the roadmap for that python-based version of SN?, to replace the old Perl-based one?
[22:48:14] <kolie_> Uhh probably yea
[22:50:04] <kolie_> Id like for
[22:50:20] <kolie_> Basically that yea.
[22:50:43] <kolie_> I was hoping it would be more organized at this stage not just rehash in python
[22:50:53] <kolie_> But it kind of fell in place
[22:51:49] <kolie_> But duplicating functionality + adding tests is a win
[22:52:02] <kolie_> And then ill break it all again with a huge refactor
[23:00:42] <AlwaysNever> how come you are fluent enough in Perl to understand Rehash, but do not want to keep it going as-is?
[23:01:02] <AlwaysNever> or with little tweaks here and there, when needed?
[23:01:35] <chromas> A person can only smoke so much and chug so much caffeine.
[23:07:04] <kolie_> I want nothing to do with perl
[23:07:15] <kolie_> I can program in just about anything.
[23:09:25] <kolie_> I wouldnt want to refactoring the perl.
[23:09:35] <kolie_> And im done patching it
[23:10:34] <kolie_> I think a lot of people know python.
[23:11:03] <kolie_> Id like to do it in rust for its correctness guarantees. You could get a lot more aggressive and higher velocity refactoring with it.
[23:13:10] <kolie_> With how dynamic and worry and spaghetti the perl is python is a good stepping stone or stopping point.
[23:18:22] <chromas> Is rust still around? I thought everyone moved onto Jai or Odin
[23:18:29] <kolie_> The problem with rehash is you literally have to keep all the paths and pipeline in ypur head
[23:19:53] <kolie_> You'll on one page handler set some obscure flag and then it redirects and 4 pages in on an off hand template it checks some random dynamic flag on the request object but only on blue moons and 5th fridays
[23:20:35] <kolie_> The flag ghastly no visibility anywhere then the line that reads or sets it.
[23:20:54] <kolie_> And thay can be one of 60 hides holes the request routes through
[23:21:03] <kolie_> Logic anywhere for any part of the request.
[23:21:06] <kolie_> It sucks.
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[23:22:49] <kolie_> Rehash abuses perl and the apache life cycle. You can say its a hallmark of 90s coding and performance.
[23:22:54] <kolie_> I call it unmaintainable.
[23:30:25] <chromas> Push that rock up that hill
[23:31:04] <kolie_> Rust is OG just call all the kids caught on
[23:32:55] <kolie_> Ive been doing rust for just about a decade now. Maybe over
[23:33:04] <kolie_> Late 15 I started
[23:34:01] <chromas> Back when it was a just a wee Mozilla baby
[23:39:16] <kolie_> Yea. I liked when my programming language matched my cigarettes COOL
[23:39:32] <kolie_> You lucky I dont c# up in this bitch.