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[11:13:18] <AlwaysNever> Is it me, or google searches only return posts which look like having been created for the purpose of being "found" by Google, instead of original content created "as an act of love" like old blog posts were?
[11:14:03] <AlwaysNever> I don't know if this is Google search bias, or the Internet really is full of shit to the brim.
[11:14:48] <fab23> AlwaysNever: you are using the wrong Search Engine, better use https://duckduckgo.com or https://kagi.com (paid service, but affordable)
[11:14:49] <systemd> ^ 03DuckDuckGo - Protection. Privacy. Peace of mind.
[11:14:49] <systemd> ^ 03Kagi Search - A Premium Search Engine
[11:17:08] <AlwaysNever> fab23: Ok, I will explore other search engines
[11:18:03] <AlwaysNever> But my point still stands: what's up with post fabricated to be found by search engines using all the keywords available, like this one: https://www.auslogics.com
[11:18:04] <systemd> ^ 03[FIXED] How to fix the Inaccessible Boot Device Error in Windows 10?
[11:18:59] <AlwaysNever> The post even adds "[FIXED]" to its title to attract more clics from google searches
[11:19:02] <chromas> My favorite for awhile was the ones who somehow had all your search terms in the url
[11:19:08] <janrinok> AlwaysNever, I agree with you - it looks like more and more answers are specifically constructed to appear quickly even when they have nothing at all to do with the question that you might have asked. The enshitification of search engines is well underway now ...
[11:22:05] <chromas> s/now/decades ago/
[11:24:25] <AlwaysNever> SEO applied to the inner content of articles, enshitification in the creation process itself
[11:25:25] <fab23> good starting point for stuff why Google Search is going downhill -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:25:26] <systemd> ^ 03Search 'kagi'
[11:27:15] <fab23> Google does favor sites in top results which do have Google Ads on them.
[11:28:01] <fab23> the content does not matter at all, the more such sites you have to click on to find what you are looking for, the better for Google
[11:28:56] <AlwaysNever> sad state of affairs
[11:30:00] <AlwaysNever> we will have to return to curated directories of links, like Yahoo pre-Google, if search engines go to shit
[11:31:09] <fab23> try Kagi, I really like it, does even downrank sites with Ads and you can individually up/down rank sites.
[11:33:55] <AlwaysNever> kagi is paywalled?
[11:34:59] <AlwaysNever> I'm too cheap to pay for Internet Seach
[11:35:44] <AlwaysNever> Soylentnews.org is my shit filter
[11:46:12] <fab23> AlwaysNever: as I wrote, kagi is a paid service, but you have a free trial (create an account)
[11:46:39] <fab23> AlwaysNever: see https://kagi.com
[11:46:39] <systemd> ^ 03Kagi Search
[11:51:33] <fab23> AlwaysNever: you choose between your wasted time to find what you are looking for or a few $$$ per month/year.
[12:03:28] <AlwaysNever> No, I choose to abandon the web
[12:04:04] <AlwaysNever> It's not like I'm short of things to do
[12:04:07] <Ingar> accept the truth and move on, the web is shit
[17:25:01] <chromas> Remember when the normies tried to replace websites with Macromedia Flash? Things were so much better then
[17:25:54] <ted-ious> That is disgusting because it is true.
[17:27:38] <fab23> I miss the kimble.org site with the cool James Bond like Movie with Linux and Bill Gates build with Flash :)
[17:56:20] <chromas> Internet Explorer and Flash were the only things holding us back from replacing all our desktop applications with hundreds of web pages each bundled with their own entire copy of the same browser
[19:22:51] <AlwaysNever> well, now Internet Explorer and Flash are gone, and we have Progressive Web Apps for the desktop. New package, same old shit
[19:29:34] <chromas> But it uses 1024 times the memory and doesn't have <blink>
[19:29:51] <chromas> " a homeless man at the park, He was telling me how he used to own his own business with a turnover of over a million dollars a year and he was happily married and had 2 kids and a nice house. Then one day he noticed that he could hear the difference between audio equipment and lost all his money."
[19:30:14] <chromas> see there's Wayland mouse-pasting chopping off the selection again
[19:41:09] <AlwaysNever> wayland? too cutting edge for me. My Linux desktop is Mate, on X11
[19:41:56] <janrinok> MATE for me too
[19:42:00] <janrinok> KISS
[20:51:01] <chromas> we need x12
[20:51:32] <ted-ious> And also x10.
[20:51:51] <ted-ious> x11 minus all the junk that's not necessary anymore.
[20:52:16] <ted-ious> Like the libressl dev's did to openssl.
[21:11:59] <chromas> that's x12
[21:12:09] <chromas> but nobody remembers libressl
[21:12:42] <chromas> we still all use openssl with its gotos jumping into if(0) blocks