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[07:52:38] <chromas> "About 'less' and 'fewer', it reminds me of the short sentences "I'm sorry" and "I apologize" that are interchangeable, except at a funeral."
[08:11:13] <c0lo> Sometimes the situation fit at a funeral too, not sure if the one would admit to it.
[08:33:05] <Ingar> you sound like my mom, she was an english teacher
[08:33:47] <c0lo> Was she a heavy smoker too?
[08:39:44] <Ingar> no she had quit ages ago
[09:24:59] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:25:01] <systemd> ^ 03Knex 8-bit Mechanical Computer - Update 2: Registers, RAM, and Data Transfer
[09:25:39] <c0lo> then that's no way I can sound like your mum, not only I'm not a mother but I am a heavy smoker
[09:26:59] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com
[09:27:01] <systemd> ^ 03NTSB's Report On OceanGate Titan Submersible - New Information, Old Conclusions.
[09:53:33] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com
[09:53:36] <systemd> ^ 03I think he misunderstood the assignment… 🎸 NEW MERCH DROP! Link In Description 👇
[10:14:00] <janrinok> the NTSB report was fascinating. The amount of investigation was phenomenal and of technical interest.
[10:50:36] <c0lo> They really really need to store their data in a blackbox type of enclosure, filled w/ mineral oil, for the next shoddy deepdive submersible they are gonna crush at 3000m+.
[10:52:53] <janrinok> yep, but think of the money they have save...
[10:53:13] <janrinok> *saved
[10:54:21] <janrinok> I'm not sure even a blackbox would withstand 400 atmos
[10:55:01] <janrinok> the mineral oil would remove the pressure but look at the damage to everything else.
[11:00:52] <Ingar> rich man assumed his toy would be up to speed to the big boy's stuff. why are we still talking about this? :)
[11:01:46] <Ingar> it's like if Elon would be testing manned rockets
[11:20:49] <c0lo> Look of what did(n't) happen to the camera they recovered. Heavy duty enclosure and filed w/ mineral oil.
[11:20:49] <c0lo> Making the oil more viscous would diffuse the shock too.
[11:21:32] <c0lo> And you only need to protect the data storage.
[11:24:48] <janrinok> Ingar, well one reason that I find it interesting is the discoveries made by a very thorough scientific and technical investigation. We now now why the sub failed. We also know that the delamination of the carbon fibre occurred on dive 81, but the fatal dive was dive 88. All the evidence was there but either not recognised for what it was or was ignored intentionally. The heat destruction caused by compressing a volume of air by
[11:24:48] <janrinok> 400 atmos charred much of the hardware - despite it being under water.
[11:26:46] <janrinok> The images of what was once computer hardware showed it became a compressed block of charred material in a fraction of a second. X-rays had to be used it even identify some of it.
[11:27:52] <janrinok> c0lo, yes but the camera was outside of the pressure hull. Sticking a blackbox outside of the hull would certainly have changed the diving characteristics.
[11:29:17] <janrinok> As I say, I found the entire video fascinating, but perhaps that is just me...
[11:44:01] <c0lo> The temperature raise due to shock is too short to fry the electronics "inside the protection of a solid enclosure" - the temperature needs time to raise by diffusion see the https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:44:01] <c0lo> Even the unprotected cables for the last one had only the insulation charred on its surface, not carbonized to the core.
[11:44:02] <systemd> ^ 03Heat equation - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[13:16:45] <Ingar> c0lo: disaster tourism for engineers :-D
[13:17:10] <Ingar> but, I can imagine there haven't been many well-studied exampels of such situations
[13:18:16] <AlwaysNever> hello there: let's shake up the soylentnews.org front page with the videogame-like footage of a police raid of a SIM-card-based criminal organization: https://x.com
[13:19:43] <AlwaysNever> =sub https://www.euronews.com
[13:19:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Latvian Police Bust European Cybercrime Ring and Arrest Seven Suspects" (68p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:21:24] <AlwaysNever> The video plays much better in the Twitter link than in the Euronews.com website
[13:48:14] <fab23> we did really improve 🙃 https://www.gocomics.com
[13:48:17] <systemd> ^ 03Establishing a secure connection ...
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