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[05:41:07] <c0lo> =sub nobody-expects-giant-black-holes https://webbtelescope.org +https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/addcfe +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDFZBoQOHcE
[05:41:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA’s Webb Finds Possible 'Direct Collapse' Black Hole" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:56:25] <c0lo> TIL https://en.wikipedia.org +https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4GkWNJJrBpE
[05:56:27] <systemd> ^ 03Three hares - Wikipedia
[06:00:24] <c0lo> TIL https://en.wikipedia.org +https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lc16f8jD9gc
[06:00:25] <systemd> ^ 03Kibbeh - Wikipedia
[06:09:05] <c0lo> =sub season-opening-4-edit-your-baby-legally https://www.chop.edu https://www.science.org
[06:09:10] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08World's First Patient Treated With Personalized CRISPR Gene Editing Therapy at Children’s Hospital" (44p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:15:07] <c0lo> =sub https://www.theguardian.com https://www.vice.com +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-91Gk8gyntg
[06:15:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Denmark to Tackle Deepfakes by Giving People Copyright to Their Own Features" (28p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:37:42] <janrinok> c0lo, the Denmark sub is a dupe unfortunately: https://soylentnews.org
[06:37:43] <systemd> ^ 03Danish Copyright on Your Digital Representation - SoylentNews
[06:52:27] <c0lo> Worth saying it twice, tho' ;)
[07:01:47] <janrinok> :)
[07:11:42] <chromas> Gene editing takes us out of the stone age. The MS DOS age
[07:11:53] <chromas> No longer are we stuck with Abort, Retry, Fail?
[07:13:01] <janrinok> mornin' chromas
[07:14:10] <chromas> g'day
[07:20:54] <janrinok> kolie, retrozilla and Win95? No telemetry, no ads backed into the OS, no surveillance, no forced updates (in fact, no updates whatsover now) would be my guess. Perhaps he also has a piece of software that was made for Win95 and hasn't been supported since...
[07:21:10] <janrinok> *baked, not backed!
[08:35:34] <c0lo> lynx browser, optimize for it!!11one!one!
[09:56:23] <Ingar> janrinok: it almost sounds liek a linux desktop!
[10:13:17] <chromas> Can lynx and/or links2 run teh javascripts? Can I haz Electron web 4.2 apps?
[10:14:06] <fab23> probably no
[10:20:16] <fab23> if the hardware below the Win95 is 64bit, then installing Linux may be an option, if it is only 32bit H/W it may geet difficult to find a distribution which will have support in the future
[11:07:45] <janrinok> Well, I think that the claim was made by an AC, and we don't really know why he has chosen that particular mix of software. I got the feeling that he didn't want linux either. But take all this with a pinch of salt - I don't have enough information to expand any further.
[11:18:08] <c0lo> "if the hardware below the Win95 is 64bit" - the first MS OS that was (somewhat) 64bit capable was a late version of XP - cca 2009-2010 if my memory serves.
[11:36:27] <Ingar> no js in lynx, although afaik you can compile js support in
[11:36:45] <Ingar> also, xp64 was an abomination
[11:46:41] <c0lo> "no js in lynx" a great feature indeeed.
[11:46:41] <c0lo> "xp64 was an abomination" true, but it was the first OS able to run on 64b archs and waaaaay after the Win95. Therefore "the hardware below the Win95 is 64bit" is impossible in our reality (which was my actual point)
[12:17:08] <fab23> c0lo: some H/W was able to run in 32 or 64-bit mode.
[12:17:35] <fab23> but yes, Win95 is too old and H/W may really be only 32-bit
[12:25:02] <Ingar> the clue of x86_64 is that it runs both 32- and 64-bit
[12:43:46] <fab23> the H/W yes, but not the OS (any more)
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[15:29:57] <kolie> I mean I can get all of that with linux.
[15:30:40] <kolie> but the actual answer is far more interesting than speculation, I can think of reasons.
[15:30:46] <kolie> Not great ones but I am creative lol.
[18:01:54] <janrinok> Yes, but if he doesn't _want_ linux then suggesting linux is not the answer... If he has got a game, or a CNC controller, or whatever that only runs under W95 then that is what he will use.
[18:02:21] <janrinok> Are you suggesting that you know the actual answer?
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[23:15:59] <kolie> I think a piece of software holding back the entire OS to windows 95, and necessitating retrozilla and that being your daily driver is I'd wager one of the least likely reasons.
[23:16:30] <kolie> Liking ancient shit with no telemetry or simpler times, not the least reasonable thing.
[23:17:33] <kolie> Just seems like out of all the options, trying to see where w95 being your daily driver was favored over scenarios I see other options meeting at a much higher level. That's why I am curious what the real reason is - not seeing how using w95 is optimial really in any thing I can think of.