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[00:44:13] <kolie> whatsup?
[00:44:21] <kolie> pics of what you are asking might help.
[00:53:20] <progo> https://irc.glump.net
[00:53:39] <kolie> uhh what browser is that lol
[00:54:02] <kolie> I'm using chrome mobile and it doesn't look like that ass
[00:54:35] <progo> Not hand manipulated there. Opera. Pinch to zoom how I want it. Also "force dark mode" (auto detect dark mode I don't fuss if it's missing in a theme)
[00:54:54] <kolie> https://pastebord.co
[00:55:55] <progo> Next pic is Firefox mobile default zoom plus force dark. Looks ass https://irc.glump.net
[00:56:23] <kolie> how did I fuck that up https://pasteboard.co
[00:56:40] <progo> Both don't just show a vertical stack of blocks on tiny screen with this theme as is
[00:56:53] <kolie> what theme?
[00:57:02] <progo> The live Soylent theme
[00:57:15] <progo> There is no room for columns on a hand phonr
[00:57:33] <progo> BTW I don't mean to be abusive here. Just sharing
[00:57:41] <kolie> yea so you see mine and it doesnt look like that right
[00:57:53] <progo> Bigger screen?
[00:58:13] <kolie> yea could be a resolution thing.
[00:58:34] <progo> Also I see inconsistent body font size probably on mine too
[00:58:39] <kolie> 3120 x 1440 (QHD+)
[00:59:02] <progo> Ask in the CSS how BIG a screen is, not pixels
[00:59:20] <progo> I think you can do that
[00:59:37] <kolie> Yea there is different sizing, but Im guessing this was designed with pixel counts.
[01:00:00] <kolie> Opera on my phone looks fairly good, so could ba a res thing.
[01:00:03] <progo> https://irc.glump.net you know I'm something of a "designer" myself. :^)
[01:00:08] <kolie> Going to try uhh, what browser?
[01:00:10] <kolie> Firefucked.
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[01:00:15] <progo> but I haven't analyzed these problems with the Soylent theme
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[01:00:48] <progo> firefox, user zoomed in a bit https://irc.glump.net
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[01:00:51] <kolie> firefox looks decent, not bad.
[01:01:00] <progo> crap rap that was opera
[01:01:08] <progo> opera zoomed in a bit https://irc.glump.net
[01:01:28] <progo> firefox default view https://irc.glump.net
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[01:01:57] <kolie> I used ff
[01:02:06] <progo> although it'd be nice to have two palettes in the CSS with a media query
[01:02:20] <kolie> the code has a light and dark mode setting
[01:02:24] <kolie> I dont know if its available in the site
[01:03:00] <kolie> If you go to your userpage and click "home page"
[01:03:01] * progo opens in Edge with no plugins, bets blown away by white :^)
[01:03:12] <kolie> there is uhh, well, shit to click in there.
[01:03:38] <progo> > If you go to your userpage and click "home page"
[01:03:38] <progo> the correct way to do it is give the user both palettes in the CSS. tell the browser to choose based on a media query "prefers dark mode?"
[01:04:23] <kolie> Yea I'm not replacing the CSS any time soon, I do accept patches :)
[01:04:44] <kolie> On our way to making that easier though.
[01:04:49] <kolie> I do like the mobile fixes.
[01:04:54] <progo> good good
[01:05:03] <progo> I'm swamped right now though :^(
[01:08:32] <progo> I'm glad you're working on improving it!
[01:09:23] <progo> anyone remember when Opera (pre-Chromium) had "don't allow auto-play sound or video without clicking"? … and it WORKED?
[01:09:40] <progo> praise Soylent for not sending auto-playing media
[01:10:12] <progo> Firefox has a nice pretty display-autoplay option and I'm pretty sure it has no effect
[01:10:33] <progo> and i think Chromium has the same
[01:12:39] <progo> and thanks so much for all of your other hard work kolie -- most of which I couldn't list out
[01:13:47] <progo> if I get an energy burst and want to try submitting some suggested patches, Soylent has a public code repo of the Slashcode?
[01:13:59] <progo> yes. https://github.com
[01:14:00] <systemd> ^ 03GitHub - SoylentNews/slashcode: The slashcode repository for SoylentNews. The initial code base was uploaded as it appeared on Sourceforge as of the last commit in September 2009
[01:14:15] <progo> oh wait no that's not updated
[01:14:53] <progo> there we go https://github.com
[01:14:54] <systemd> ^ 03GitHub - SoylentNews/rehash: Forked from Slashcode, rehash is the codebase that powers SoylentNews.org, powered by mod_perl 2
[01:15:22] <progo> I'm sure I can get it up and running in some kind of container or VM with a blank database.
[01:23:32] <progo> oh yeah kolie here's how I remember to do a media query split between "lol columns" and "big vertical stack layout" … pseudocode CSS:
[01:23:32] <progo> > media-query(viewport-width is less than 50rem) { CSS to make things all one column } else { CSS to make a horizontal layout of 3 columns }
[01:23:56] <progo> 50rem == 50em (average characters) at exactly 100% of user's preferred font size
[01:24:15] <progo> also "1rem" dimension on anything is "100% of user's preferred font size"
[01:24:54] <progo> make body text 1rem; line-spacing 1.1rem or whatever. headings 1.5rem maybe. etc.
[01:25:19] <progo> I hope that helps
[01:25:39] <progo> feel free to DM me any time and ask for a screen sharing phone call in the near future after that
[01:25:57] <progo> (near future after the DM)
[01:28:04] <progo> when I'm swamped I still don't mind helping other people with problems they own
[01:40:31] <kolie> yea, thats how I imagine doing it - the main thing I do not know - is how all the css container and system is setup in rehash
[01:40:41] <kolie> but yea soylentnews/rehash on github
[01:42:15] <progo> cool
[01:42:18] <progo> good luck
[01:45:12] <progo> also don't take my "50rem" as the right breakpoint for layout variations. you need to look at how it works when a slightly larger viewport than [current max width in the CSS] suddenly snaps to 3 columns
[01:45:19] <kolie> yea.
[01:45:21] <progo> use your judgement
[01:46:18] <kolie> Not something I plan on looking at for a good while - so always welcome assistance - but I will add it to the list I think its a very good and on point fix.
[01:46:45] <progo> no worries
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[06:42:51] <c0lo> LOL https://abcnews.go.com
[06:42:53] <systemd> ^ 03What travelers should know about new $250 'integrity fee' for US tourist visas
[07:29:56] <Ingar> 250 reasons not to visit the US
[08:25:07] <fab23> the number of traveller to the US went already down, this will further reduce it. Finally they can close borders and build everything on their own. 🙃
[08:48:13] <janrinok> Yesterday Trump call Canadians 'nasty' because they are not visiting the US in the numbers that they used to do. He doesn't seem able to make the connection between the financial costs, the crappy treatment that they are receiving, and the fact that they are facing 40% tariffs, with the fact that they no longer see the USA as an attractive place to visit.
[08:55:21] <fab23> Usually the company / person importing something into a country does have to pay the tarrifs, so Canada and Europe should be relaxed with that. If the US would be able to source the things somewhere else then from this countries, they would already have done that, as e.g. it may be less expensive then from Europe. If the things they are needed are only available in Canada or Europe, they will
[08:55:23] <fab23> continue to import.
[08:56:23] <janrinok> Yes, but it still deters USians from buying the products because they are more expensive. That will affect the Canadian economy too.
[08:57:17] <fab23> this will affect private importers, but the industry will need parts to build their things, they will import anyway, else they may go out of business.
[09:00:01] <janrinok> maple syrup is up 40%!
[09:01:15] <fab23> but probably in the retail store in US, so the producers in CA are still able to export, all fine. 🙃
[09:08:49] <janrinok> yes, but Americans are buying less of it
[09:08:53] <chromas> We'll just have to use our own maple
[09:09:13] <chromas> Vermont will tariff the other states
[09:09:19] <janrinok> lol
[09:09:28] <janrinok> and so it begins....
[09:09:58] <chromas> Someone should make a parody video with a super dramatic drug deal going down, except it's real maple syrup
[09:10:23] <janrinok> lol - off you go!
[09:10:24] <chromas> the boss guy makes a lacky test it out by putting a single drop on his fingers, then next thing you know he's all sticky and rolling around in agony
[09:12:19] <fab23> janrinok: the retailer may give discounts if they are not able to sell it.
[09:13:51] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:13:53] <systemd> ^ 03What you wanted to do when… PARKING SPACE STOLEN
[15:12:40] <kolie> "fab23> the number of traveller to the US went already down, this will further reduce it. Finally they can close borders and build everything on their own. 🙃" good
[15:13:07] <kolie> "Yes, but it still deters USians from buying the products because they are more expensive." I hope this drives america to build more itself.
[15:50:22] <fab23> we will sell you the machines needed for that :)
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