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[05:36:34] <c0lo> Youngsters, rejoice. The solution for house shortage/crisis is (almost) here https://www.youtube.com
[05:36:38] <systemd> ^ 03😱 Forget Expensive RVs! This Futuristic Camper Trike Lets You Live RENT-FREE Anywhere in 2026!
[08:33:26] <janrinok> the government will still find another way of taxing such things!
[09:35:55] <chromas> 🤌
[09:44:46] <chromas> https://i.ytimg.com
[09:44:52] <chromas> That's the gesture I was thinking of
[09:46:13] <janrinok> Yep, that fits. Like they do with the homeless, they will say that "you cannot park here" (unless you pay of course...)
[09:46:35] <chromas> They just sleep on the sidewalks
[09:46:53] <janrinok> in some places, in others they keep moving them
[09:47:01] <chromas> I saw one a couple nights ago sleeping in a tiny tent
[09:49:45] <chromas> We have one who walks around downtown and yells random stuff. "Get that money! Fuck off! Goodnight!" all in one passing
[09:56:49] <c0lo> You're assuming those will be cheap, guys. Unexpectedly naïve for your age.
[09:56:49] <c0lo> That's not going to be for homeless, those are targeted for the young professionals market segment, who will pay a personal loan for them (if they are employed)
[09:57:41] <chromas> Nah, the homeless thing was just for comparison
[09:58:21] <c0lo> Ah, OK
[09:59:15] <chromas> Like homeless, they'll find a way to screw you over if you're living in the trike. though maybe the rental comes with a residential license or whatever
[09:59:32] <janrinok> No, I was pointing out that the government will still find a way of getting their pound of flesh even if people do not purchase a home.
[10:19:21] <Ingar> I need to rant on energy companies
[10:19:37] <chromas> but you just don't have the energy right now
[10:19:41] <Ingar> god damn fucking incompetent assholes. thank you.
[10:20:03] <Ingar> chromas: it comes down to "yeah, just pay the bills and we'll sort it out later"
[10:20:47] <Ingar> since EU switched to a "free energy market" it went to hell
[10:25:55] <chromas> Do they all feed into the grid, then you pay whichever one you want from the ones who decided they'll sell to your area?
[11:02:35] <Ingar> no, the producers feed into the grid, the grid manager transport it, and the "energy companies", which are just billing entities are the incompetent assholes
[11:16:04] <chromas> Hey now, if energy makes the world go 'round, somebody's gotta be there to make sure you filled out the proper paperwork for it.
[11:20:11] <chromas> Bureaucrats are like those middlemen who buy your stock just to resell it to another guy was willing to pay a little more, except instead of "not leaving money on the table", it's "not leaving ink in the pen"
[11:52:44] <Ingar> if then the burocrats can't even get the billing part right, then they're incompetent assholes
[15:15:46] <janrinok> If they CAN get the billing right then they remain just assholes - but they are always assholes.
[15:22:49] * fab23 will sell Ingar hand-made electricity from the alps :)
[15:23:45] <janrinok> Will it have been made by one of those young buxom wenches that we sometimes see in the butter and milk ads? If so, can I buy some too?
[15:27:53] <fab23> janrinok: I have no idea who really makes the electricity, I just sell you a virtual product. :)
[15:29:21] <fab23> Have you ever tried to put the other end of an plugged in power cable into an bucket, will it fill up with something?
[15:30:58] <janrinok> only once - the flash is very impressive....
[15:32:01] <janrinok> the bucket did contain some water though.
[15:37:31] <fab23> ⚡️
[15:44:54] <janrinok> I currently have a robin flying around in my sitting room. Not sure how or when he got in the house, but I have opened several windows to let him get out again.....
[16:13:06] <Ingar> cat owner ?
[16:13:13] <janrinok> nope
[16:13:52] <janrinok> he is quite happy, not in the least fazed by my presence.
[16:14:09] <Ingar> fab23: does it come with a "green power" certificate ?
[16:14:38] <fab23> Ingar: yes, greenwashed certificate :)
[16:14:43] <Ingar> I always assumed alpine electricity would be purple, like the cows
[16:15:01] <fab23> Ingar: washed with the same green water where Blinky is living :)
[16:15:06] <Ingar> :D
[16:15:44] <fab23> Ingar: the lila cows are in Germany, they don't have alps.
[16:16:29] <Ingar> "Milka is a Swiss brand of chocolate confectionery."
[16:16:40] <Ingar> the swiss definitely have Alps
[16:17:30] <janrinok> Yep, you can buy that brand here in France too - a popular milk chocolate.
[16:19:47] <fab23> Ingar: I did have the impression that Milka is German
[16:20:49] <Ingar> apparently some of the production currently is in Germany
[16:21:37] <fab23> hm, milka.ch does redirect to https://www.milka.com which does not make sense
[16:21:42] <systemd> ^ 03Открий Milka!
[16:22:41] <fab23> milka.de mentions https://www.mondelezinternational.com as owner
[16:22:42] <systemd> ^ 03Mondelēz International, Inc.
[16:23:08] <fab23> and Global Mondelēz International Headquarters is in Chicago USA
[16:23:11] <Ingar> https://milka.be even gives an error
[16:23:14] <systemd> ^ 03Milka - Entschuldigung
[16:23:51] <Ingar> fab23: in any case, back in the 80's there was this add on TV for their Leo wafel
[16:23:59] <Ingar> it always showed swiss mountains
[16:24:19] <fab23> https://milka.de seems responsible for DACH and is in Germany
[16:24:22] <systemd> ^ 03Milka - Impressum
[16:24:26] <fab23> Milka is not Swiss!
[16:25:09] <Ingar> don't we need to boycott american companies ?
[16:25:17] <Ingar> no more Milka for you!
[16:25:58] <fab23> I do have a lot more other chocholate to chose from, no need to eat Milka :)
[16:32:09] <fab23> hm, the history on the German site mention that Philippe Suchard started to produce Suchard Chocolate near Neuenburg (CH), which later became Milka
[16:32:26] <fab23> But even suchard.ch does redirect to https://www.schokolade.at
[16:32:31] <systemd> ^ 03Suchard Schokolade
[16:32:52] <fab23> somehow Suchard was known to me as a Swiss Chocolate, but in the end nothing is Swiss any more :(
[16:33:00] <fab23> Even not the classic Toblerone
[16:33:25] <Ingar> my dad liked Toblerone
[16:33:49] <Ingar> personally, I think there's too much honey in it
[16:34:26] <fab23> probably like the German Ovomaltie, which has more sugar then the swiss version :)
[16:34:49] <Ingar> my favourite is the Cote d'Or milk chocolate with nuts
[16:36:35] <fab23> "Chocolat Suchard was a chocolate factory founded in Serrières (a neighborhood of Neuchâtel) by Philippe Suchard in 1826. It was one of the oldest chocolate factories in Switzerland. " from https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:37:13] <fab23> the German entry mentions "Das Unternehmen bestand von 1826 bis 1990. Die Marken in diesem Bereich gehören seit 2012 zu Mondelēz International." on top.
[16:37:42] <fab23> so Suchard existed until 1990, and since 2012 the brands belong to Mondelēz International.
[16:38:33] <Ingar> it's in the "History" chapter on the english wiki page
[16:38:52] <fab23> on the German it is on top :)
[16:39:30] <fab23> the EN Mergers parts shows the whole mess :(
[16:40:07] <Ingar> leo
[16:40:15] <Ingar> (wrong window)
[16:40:52] <fab23> the mention Tobler was the company behind Toblerone
[16:41:14] <Ingar> yeah, I guessed that
[16:41:26] <Ingar> https://pandava.com
[16:41:34] <Ingar> apparently, this is Belgium only
[16:42:26] <fab23> I don't remember to have Milka in Switzerland, we only have seen the lila cow on German TV commercials
[16:54:32] <Ingar> I ended up on a video on how to milk cows
[16:58:42] <fab23> Ingar: modern cows walk into the milking roboter on their own :)
[17:02:50] <fab23> Ingar: https://youtu.be
[17:02:53] <systemd> ^ 03Robotic milking fits perfectly with grazing with the Lely Astronaut ( https://www.youtube.com )
[17:39:04] <janrinok> Ingar - you cannot just drop a phrase like "I ended up on a video on how to milk cows" and leave it open ended......
[17:39:46] <janrinok> Are you a TV star, film star or merely someone who likes watching cows be fondled by robots?
[17:43:47] <Ingar> it was a search result when I looked for milka cow
[17:44:02] <Ingar> I had no clue how to milk cows, now I do!
[17:54:31] <janrinok> Ah, so you watched that video too. When I lived close to a farm as a child it was all manual. Now so much is automated.
[18:01:13] <janrinok> error 503 Backend fetch failed X 2
[18:02:49] <janrinok> now x 4
[19:57:29] <progo> I'm trying to export a site from WordPress and import into Drupal via a bespoke script that parses WP's RSS 2.0 full export into a set of RFC-compliant CSV files… damn WordPress is trying its best to crash the SimpleXML library. how the hell does an ASCII vertical-tab symbol get into a Title element? … I pasted the whole file into W3C feed
[19:57:29] <progo> validator and all I got was Internal Server Error
[19:57:46] <progo> WordPress, come on man!
[19:58:00] <progo> I just had to whine, somewhere
[22:26:23] <progo> (Works if you remove all ASCII "start transmission" and "vert tab" symbols)