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[00:06:17] <kolie> guess I'll look at uhh paypal.
[00:23:26] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:23:28] <systemd> ^ 03Kitchen Gun - In stores now! đ«đ - BBC
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[01:11:39] <halibut> Hmm ... seems worth a shot.
[01:29:00] <kolie> fuck no ear pro
[01:30:33] <halibut> You do not need it if you shout ``Bang!'' when you shoot. It equalizes the pressure inside and outside your ear drums, protecting them.
[01:31:47] <kolie> I've seen a lot of dumb ass videos where people are in their car popping of rounds for road rage and shit and all I can think of is how nice that ring must be for the rest of your life.
[01:31:48] <halibut> Then again, maybe the reason he keeps shouting is because he is deaf, surely completely unrelated.
[01:33:11] <halibut> I was thinking the gun was not actually shooting, and the sound and flash were being added in, but there does seem to be some recoil, so maybe I am wrong.
[01:34:20] <kolie> you dont stage product videos.
[01:35:14] <halibut> I knew that. Silly me.
[01:35:59] <kolie> what you up to this fine 1800 utc?
[01:41:03] <halibut> You mean ~16 hours from now, or does 1800 UTC somehow mean now? Right now, I am drooling on my keyboard waiting for MrPlow to revive me so I can fite more.
[01:41:36] <kolie> my brain is cooked.
[01:41:56] <kolie> what is it almost 0200 zulu
[01:42:15] <kolie> I can't math when I write software.
[01:42:27] <halibut> Yes. I am a fish. I get cooked frequently.
[01:42:50] <kolie> whats the plural of you
[01:42:51] <halibut> (The Yes was responding the question. The remainder was a separate comment.)
[01:43:17] <halibut> Halibie? Halibutts? I do not know.
[01:43:28] <kolie> Is it one halibut two halibut
[01:43:45] <kolie> we are serving up halibutses for the eventide
[01:43:51] <halibut> I think you are correct; the singular and plural are the same.
[01:44:26] <halibut> Let's see ... you ask me what I am doing, and then reveal you are serving up fish ...
[01:44:34] <kolie> lol
[01:44:41] <kolie> I mean't metaphorical
[01:44:42] * halibut locks all doors and hides in the underwater castle thingamajig
[01:44:58] <kolie> you are on display, not my dinner plate.
[01:46:13] <halibut> How do you display fish? I have an unfortunate mental image of the singing bass wall decoration now.
[01:47:43] <kolie> uhm
[01:47:59] <kolie> I put them on the spot in irc and then make them feel like they are going to be eaten but then just say they are on display.
[01:48:34] <halibut> Ah. By the way, this is what I was talking about, if you are not familiar with the reference: https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:48:34] <systemd> ^ 03Big Mouth Billy Bass - Wikipedia
[01:48:59] <kolie> bru I've hacked out many insides of singing bass for comical recreations.
[01:49:32] <kolie> The hackerspace had a bin where 10 of them ended up.
[01:49:43] <halibut> What mods did you do?
[01:50:15] <kolie> My favorite was it was basically a 2 way audio 1 way video fish, and you could control how much it was erect remotely
[01:50:22] <kolie> So you could basically have a ventroliquist fish.
[01:51:12] <halibut> That's pretty good. It would freak me out to have one of those call me by name.
[01:52:00] <kolie> yea, having the wall fish come alive and tell you they know what you did is scary
[01:54:56] <halibut> That sounds like something from a horror movie.
[01:55:52] <halibut> (I know ``I know what you did'' comes from multiple horror movies. I mean the idea of a fish whispering when you are not looking, and then when you get up close, suddenly comes to life and starts screaming.)
[01:56:15] <halibut> Almost makes me want one.
[01:57:14] <kolie> yea, calling name out when people are late at work
[01:57:20] <kolie> they are like wtf looking around
[01:57:26] <kolie> then ti moves and flaps and maeks some wild ass noises.
[01:57:46] <kolie> lol
[01:57:50] <kolie> yea ive had fun with it.
[01:58:56] <ted-ious> halibut: Who told you that wive's tale about shouting bang?
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[02:06:23] <halibut> That is excellent.
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[02:25:45] <halibut> ted-ious: I thought I was making something up that sounded appropriately silly given the content I was talking about.
[02:26:06] <halibut> Now that you mention it, I think I have heard something like that before, so maybe it was partly an old memory.
[02:26:28] <halibut> No idea where I heard it, but I know something like that would not work for many reasons.
[02:26:59] <halibut> (For example, I think it is actually the sound-sensing hairs in the ear that get damaged, so it is not a matter of equalizing pressure, as that would only help the eardrum.)
[02:27:27] <halibut> (... but also, unless there was some miraculous coincidence, the pressures are unlikely to match anyways.)
[02:28:25] <kolie> what was I doing..
[02:28:36] <kolie> idfk.
[02:36:00] <kolie> oh yea ipn.
[02:43:13] <ted-ious> halibut: Damage happens to the hairs too when there is over pressure but you can't make that go away by shouting. :)
[02:43:59] <ted-ious> In the military they teach you to open your mouth so that the shock wave will have the same effect inside your head and out.
[02:44:32] <ted-ious> But that's not to prevent hearing damage because only a helmet that keeps the noise out can do that.
[02:45:09] <ted-ious> It's to keep the shock wave from rupturing your ear drums and making blood leak out of your ears.
[02:51:52] <halibut> Shock waves are a little different than sound waves (single overpressure instead of a pressure oscillation).
[02:52:15] <halibut> Any idea how effective of a protection keeping your mouth open is against shock waves? I imagine it helps a lot, but is not perfect.
[02:56:31] <ted-ious> The impression I got from people who dealt alot with artillery was that it mainly made the difference between how cooked you would be when you got turned into a vegetable.
[02:57:47] <ted-ious> If a howitzer shell lands close enough to you that you're worried about damage to your hearing you have other problems that are much bigger and more urgent. :)
[03:01:29] <halibut> That seems sensible.
[03:03:36] <kolie> how about the back blast from an rpg
[03:03:43] <ted-ious> Maybe it's like throwing your arms up in front of your head before your car runs into the brick wall.
[03:04:07] <kolie> you seen this before? https://www.military.com
[03:04:08] <systemd> ^ 03RPG Backblast Downs Libyan Rebel
[03:04:24] <ted-ious> If the crash doesn't kill you you might get lucky and have less of a concussion.
[03:07:46] <kolie> we are close to having working subs again.
[03:08:51] <halibut> Subscriptions, or submarines? Both are cool.
[03:09:02] <kolie> I no has submarine :(
[03:09:31] <halibut> Oh, right. Of course. Soylent Phoenix does not have any submarines. None. Totally. Got it.
[03:10:14] <halibut> ... and if they did, they definitely would not be nuclear-powered attack subs. Definitely not.
[03:10:29] <halibut> Nothing to see here. Move along.
[03:11:11] <ted-ious> Nuclear powered attack subs make less pollution than fossil fuel powered ones but for some reason they have a worse reputation.
[03:11:28] <halibut> They do?
[03:12:23] <ted-ious> And since attack subs don't carry nuclear weapons and are intended to protect against ships that do you would think that countries like new zealand would be less antagonistic about them.
[03:12:40] <ted-ious> Of course.
[03:13:06] <ted-ious> Big fossil fuel powered ships are the worst polluters ever.
[03:13:25] <ted-ious> They make modern coal power plants look clean.
[03:14:00] <halibut> Huh. I would have thought that sinking a single vessel, with oil, fuel (chemical or fissile), and probably a lot of other things, would likely release a lot more pollution than any vessel is likely to burn over its lifetime. I could be wrong.
[03:14:21] <halibut> ... OK, maybe not as much as a big shipping-container ship.
[03:20:42] <chromas> It was SoylentNews PBC what had the sub. It's why they had to transfer assets to a new company and scuttle the old one
[03:22:02] <ted-ious> halibut: Go down to a harbor sometime and smell the more expensive lower sulfur fuel they burn when they know there could be epa monitors nearby.
[03:22:43] <ted-ious> The cheaper crap fuel they use for 99% of the time is so much worse.
[03:23:31] <halibut> Re: Fuel. That seems so ... unfortunately typical.
[03:23:38] <halibut> Re: Sub. Ah. That explains it.
[03:24:03] <ted-ious> Even new so called clean and efficient big ships leak so much crap that you can see it trailing off in the wake as it drives by.
[03:24:05] <halibut> .. and kolie definitely did not just get it working again.
[03:24:17] <kolie> what did I do?
[03:24:27] <chromas> Everything
[03:24:35] <halibut> You did not get the former SoylentNews PBC sub working again.
[03:24:42] <ted-ious> Subs don't leak it they just dump it out directly into the water below the surface where you can't see it.
[03:24:48] <kolie> its not fully linked yet.
[03:24:50] <kolie> Its almost linked.
[03:24:59] <halibut> Boats are pretty nasty in some ways.
[03:25:04] <kolie> The button on the subscribe page, should go to phoenix now.
[03:25:19] <kolie> BUT - i dont know that the IPN chain will automate the sub application.
[03:25:56] <halibut> You mean we could buy the submarine by subscribing to SN?
[03:26:10] <chromas> Did you get the keys to the swag store too?
[03:26:32] <chromas> halibut: you can buy soyshares
[03:26:38] <halibut> I'll bet you have to get at *least* a $200 subscription to get a submarine.
[03:27:31] <chromas> $200 gets you one torpedo bay door
[03:28:08] <halibut> Would the accountant who keeps track of the SoyShares(TM) be a bean counter?
[03:28:58] <chromas> Curdish
[03:30:05] <chromas> Or I should say, soy vey! You're not being anti-soylitic are you
[03:30:53] <halibut> Soytainly.
[03:33:59] <kolie> ok
[03:34:03] <kolie> it recorded payment from me.
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[04:05:18] <kolie> whatup
[04:06:01] <kolie> thats a very aripicious login.
[04:06:51] <subdermal> explain
[04:08:08] <kolie> you know auspicious?
[04:08:24] <kolie> if you take ari and prepend it to the suffix, you get aripicious
[04:09:12] <kolie> instead of bringing about favor or success
[04:09:17] <kolie> it favors and brings about aris
[04:09:34] <subdermal> What are you on about?
[04:09:45] <kolie> what are you on about
[04:09:54] <kolie> This conversation isn't for you pleb.
[04:10:20] <kolie> im talking to my boi white fish and chrome ass
[04:11:05] <subdermal> Serlf medication?
[04:14:55] <subdermal> =submit https://www.rawstory.com
[04:14:57] <systemd> â Sub-ccess! "03'Gut Punch': Steelworkers Union Stunned After Trump Vows to Scuttle International Deal" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:15:11] <halibut> Fish are tasty. Nothing medicinal there.
[04:15:23] <kolie> Whats steel and trump got to do with SN style news?
[04:15:40] <halibut> Unless you stab yourself on a lionfish spike, or eat the wrong part of a fugu. Don't do that.
[04:16:03] <subdermal> If you are downstream from chrome ass, might be medicated.
[04:17:03] <kolie> fugu is bestfu
[04:17:08] <kolie> it makes your lips tingle
[04:17:41] <halibut> If that is what it takes, I hear 9V batteries are pretty good.
[04:18:17] <subdermal> Self-induced catatonic states would explain so much about Soylent Gryphon.
[04:18:25] <halibut> Some of the same people suggesting that may have also mentioned that a 9V power supply (capable of producing much more current than a 9V battery) is a very different experience.
[04:19:01] <kolie> I self-flaggalate
[04:19:17] <halibut> Fish are normally nearly catatonic most of the time. No need for any inducing, self- or otherwise.
[04:19:19] <kolie> self-flagellate
[04:19:34] <kolie> with my own member.
[04:19:50] <kolie> it works until it doesnt.
[04:20:02] <halibut> There used to be somebody with the nick bacterium (later on, bacteria). I suspect they flagellated better than you.
[04:20:27] <halibut> Maybe they were just being cilia?
[04:20:54] <kolie> idk what shoudl I fuck around with next.
[04:22:07] <kolie> oh man I can see into the future.
[04:22:22] <kolie> I know what ari articles got skipped for wednesday and thursday
[04:23:03] <kolie> aritickles
[04:23:10] <kolie> aritciles
[04:23:19] <kolie> aritickles deez nuts
[04:23:20] <kolie> lol
[04:24:18] <chromas> Emoji reactions
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[04:24:50] <kolie> ><
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[04:56:40] <kolie> janrinok, or I guess whoever, if I have a list of pages to move to a historic section for the mediawiki, their titles/ids, I can make that happen.
[05:36:14] <kolie> We can mark the pages with {{archival}} at the top
[05:36:31] <kolie> I have a script on the staff box which can then move them to historic after {{archival}} is set.
[07:33:24] <kolie> What happened to crutchy
[08:13:46] <janrinok> kolie - this channel is the public face of the site
[08:14:13] <janrinok> why are we spamming ourselves?
[08:14:53] <janrinok> There are plenty of other channels available please.
[08:15:16] <chromas> đ”noooo fun allowwwwwedđ”
[08:15:31] <janrinok> mornin' chromas
[08:16:13] <chromas> g'day janrinok
[08:16:28] <chromas> also kolie
[08:16:44] <chromas> crutchy wandered off many moons back
[08:22:48] <janrinok> You can have the fun that you want as long as you also do the regular checks to make sure that nobody is asking for help.
[08:23:08] <chromas> âïž
[08:26:51] <janrinok> kolie, crutchy was last active on the site in 2015. Quite a few left around that time. Their original motivation was to get this site up and working. When the level of noise increased leading up to the 2016 elections they moved on.
[08:27:36] <janrinok> I'm sure there were other reasons too but not that seem any more significant than any other.
[08:30:08] <janrinok> The wiki wasn't kept up-to-date as the Board had no interest in ratifying the documents that were already there. It became a repository for technical information rather than the important documents that were of community interest.
[08:32:43] <janrinok> The most effective way of promulgating policy was via Metas - which have always been used for informing the community of site developments. The Metas are viewed by far more people than journals or wiki pages.
[08:40:02] <janrinok> There are still some of the original team around (NCommander, cosurgi, chromas, Martyb/bytram, FNord666, perhaps juggs/Deucalion, myself and probably one or two more. Until recently there were more - mechanicjay, audioguy, etc, but the rebuilding of the site has affected the morale of many staff)
[08:43:32] <janrinok> Editing in particular can be a grind - it is something that has to be done every day and is easier the more editors we have available. Even so, the turnover is relatively high compared with other teams. No matter what else is happening on the site, the stories still have to be gathered, processed and published.
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[10:44:51] <ubermal> Never seen kolie drunk before. Maybe heis is screwing up to be Sec of Def?  But spamming the site! Bad form, old man.
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[15:17:08] <kolie> Pot Kettle
[15:20:15] <kolie> Don't you wish you're Ari friend was ASCII like me, dont you?
[15:21:01] <janrinok> No, ari spams the site enough with ascii art without any else's assistance
[15:21:10] <kolie> My favorite things aren't spam Ari they are artistic expression of my soul. Guns, robots, and woman.
[15:21:22] <janrinok> lol
[15:21:37] <kolie> And very on topic checking the burst filter.
[15:22:22] <kolie> He didn't take the bait with the freedom15 tho ><
[15:22:24] <janrinok> I can't find where you mentioned the additional field for the soft delete API i'face
[15:22:37] <kolie> redacts
[15:22:54] <kolie> You can check the commit toonone sec
[15:23:08] <janrinok> SITE DOWN Backend Fail 503
[15:23:28] <inz> wfm
[15:23:32] <janrinok> On dev
[15:23:36] <inz> ah
[15:23:54] <janrinok> I just get an alert - it doesn't tell me which one
[15:25:00] <kolie> In the shower I'll check it out in 20 or so.
[15:38:47] <kolie> =submit https://www.newsbreakapp.com
[15:38:49] <systemd> â* Sub-ccess! "08Donald Trumpâs Mental Collapse Rages on With Suggestion That an Entire Country Become Americaâs " (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:38:59] <kolie> It does work. See Ari?
[15:39:59] <kolie> He lost his touch.
[15:40:16] <kolie> Maybe he touches other things that's why it's not there.
[15:42:08] <kolie> Speaking of touching people, janrinok, is anyone left in community support
[15:45:57] <kolie> Now this may be worth running https://www.newsbreakapp.com
[15:45:58] <systemd> ^ 03UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in midtown Manhattan in apparent targeted attack, law enforcement official says - NewsBreak ( https://www.newsbreak.com )
[15:47:32] <ted-ious> https://finance.yahoo.com
[15:47:34] <systemd> ^ 03UnitedHealth forecasts 2025 medical costs above expectations
[15:55:19] <kolie> hmm
[15:55:31] <kolie> container wasn't running.
[15:55:41] <kolie> its up now.
[15:56:37] <janrinok> thanks
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[19:31:18] <unterbon> There is no one in community support, except janrinok, and his job is to ban the community. No community, no complaints, thus no community support needed. Ari is dead, then?
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[20:45:49] <Fnord666> ~api
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