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[00:31:53] <kolie> oh
[00:31:59] <kolie> stories have a sid and a stoid
[00:32:02] <kolie> never really noticed that.
[01:10:34] <chromas> It's for when things get heated and you gotta take your stoids
[01:15:30] <chromas> I just noticed I didn't see any indication that MrPlow on my repo is a fork. I wonder if that's because the original is gone
[01:23:50] <kolie> Yea
[01:24:34] <chromas> I should resurrect the systemd xml journal script
[01:26:15] <kolie> What's that
[01:27:12] <chromas> https://github.com
[01:27:13] <systemd> ^ 03GitHub - chromatos/D: Toys in D minor
[01:28:02] <chromas> Just a humorless April onest joke from a couple years ago
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[02:04:48] <kolie> I/
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[03:35:07] <kolie> bitches++ # can't live with em. or without em.
[03:35:07] <bender> bitches: 1
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[04:03:28] <kolie> time to work on bonder.
[04:04:39] <kolie> i meant mrp
[04:20:45] <kolie> The wiki is getting more out of date by the month.
[04:37:04] <kolie> chromas, servers used to use kerberos right>
[04:37:10] <kolie> did everyone like that?
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[04:46:12] <soylentil98> Janrinok is a FINK!
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[05:02:28] <chromas> kolie: they did use it. Probably most people didn't mind when it worked
[05:03:20] <chromas> It was nice to be able to ssh into any box without re-authing
[05:04:33] <chromas> I thought SirFinkus was the fink
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[07:14:37] <kolie> chromas, do u have tor browser
[07:16:01] <kolie> curious what you see if you navigate to https://soylentnews.org inside the TOR browser.
[07:16:02] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[07:19:17] * chromas installs
[07:20:48] <chromas> I should probably set up tor just for the bot to read links
[07:21:35] <chromas> I put in the url; it loaded, then gave a popup saying there's an onion service version of it
[07:21:39] <kolie> Yeah you probably want the expert client not the browser then
[07:21:44] <kolie> Sweet so the onion location is working
[07:22:00] <kolie> That's the commit I just made
[07:22:01] <chromas> clicked, then clicked again and it loaded
[07:22:13] <kolie> That commit was dirty ass though
[07:22:14] <chromas> I guess clicking the popup when the window isn't focused doesn't count
[07:22:21] <chromas> !grab kolie
[07:22:21] <bender> Unknown command
[07:22:21] <devbot> Command failed: fork/exec /misc/command_handler.py: permission denied
[07:22:57] <kolie> We're going to have to work on the bot clutter
[07:23:09] <kolie> We should probably read the onion URL from the database
[07:23:10] <chromas> ah, http-equiv tag
[07:23:18] <kolie> I just shoved it in the template hardcoating
[07:23:21] <chromas> does it change a lot?
[07:23:22] <kolie> It's a meta tag
[07:23:33] <kolie> No but I guess the idea is anyone could run rehash lil
[07:23:40] <chromas> oh, true
[07:23:49] <kolie> Let's pretend like we're not the only instance
[07:23:52] <chromas> maybe it could go into a variable or something
[07:23:55] <chromas> hah
[07:24:11] <kolie> Yeah exactly It should go in the constants or site configuration statics/vars
[07:24:38] <kolie> Anyways I'm a go sleep now
[07:24:44] <chromas> g'night
[07:24:52] <kolie> Peace out bro
[07:24:55] <chromas> kolie++
[07:24:55] <bender> kolie: 15
[07:25:08] <chromas> !karma NCommander
[07:25:08] <devbot> Command failed: fork/exec /misc/command_handler.py: permission denied
[07:25:08] <bender> karma of ncommander is 123
[07:25:24] <kolie> chromas++ # you totally already had Tor / dark web
[07:25:25] <bender> chromas: 438
[07:25:31] <chromas> Should be a lot higher, but it's spread across the channels I s'pose
[07:26:04] <kolie> !karma-whoup chromas
[07:26:04] <bender> uppers of chromas are: SoyGuest72711: 1, JamesNZ: 6, tedious: 3, RandomFactor: 2, dyingtolive: 1, joepublic: 1, raxas: 1, jasassin: 1, arti: 3, SoyGuest95935: 1, geotti: 2, aqu4: 1, Runaway1956: 8, mrcoolbp: 2, exec: 1, Bytram_dewey: 2, Sulla: 5, Bytram|away: 2, boru: 2, Teckla: 4, dogfart: 1, SoyCow1984: 1, Bytram: 121, crutchy_: 2, prospectable: 1, nick: 1, stderr: 1, TheMightyBuzzard: 34, mechanicjay: 3, prospectacle: 1, n1: 3, progo: 2, kolie: 2, guy_: 1,
[07:26:04] <devbot> Command failed: fork/exec /misc/command_handler.py: permission denied
[07:26:37] <kolie> That's totally my tomorrow project
[07:26:47] <kolie> Merging karmas
[07:26:59] <kolie> Fuck individual channel right?
[07:33:16] <chromas> Need a bot-managing bot
[07:33:39] <chromas> &botctl start Flexo
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[09:38:03] <janrinok> kolie, you asked about kerberos and whether we liked it. When it was working it was fine. It enabled us to move from server to server with ease. However, even before the update in Dec 2022 it was having problems with some users. I am not sure of the specifics. Identifying the root cause was proving difficult. It suffered further under the update so that it became more of a hindrance than a useful facility.
[09:40:44] <janrinok> Personally, I cannot see any real need for it now. Although we might have several servers maintaining any one system appears to only need access to one server at a time - the software for prod is all on one server, dev on another(?), and staff on yet another.
[09:41:46] <janrinok> Functionally, it is far simpler and more logical now. I haven't thought of a usecase that would need us to jump around from one to the other in quick succession. Their roles are entirely different.
[09:59:49] <janrinok> Whether kerberos would provide an extra (and useful?) layer of security I cannot judge.
[10:02:46] <janrinok> kolie, I access the site via TOR as Arthur T Knackerbracket, as it does not cause my other computers to log me out of my janrinok account. It works perfectly OK and is slightly slower than our own link, but gives a much wider variety of hashes (IPs).
[10:04:44] <janrinok> Anyone got any idea who controls access to the Wiki pages now?
[10:19:52] <janrinok> Wiki appears to have been attacked by rainbet1225, who has received an IP ban by the server for abuse. However, it is now necessary to log in so I am not sure who is now controlling the accounts.
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[15:26:59] <kolie> Re the wiki, I can override and assign access.
[15:31:38] <kolie> Looks like there's a few cases of new spam pages being made
[15:52:03] <janrinok> I haven't found any spam pages yet but there are a lot of pages to go through
[15:53:33] <kolie> Well you said the wiki was attacked how so?
[15:54:28] <janrinok> There was a warning when I tried to log in saying that the ban had been imposed during the last few hours
[15:55:13] <janrinok> I was also logged out because I was in the 'user' group which is part of the ban imposed on rainbet1225
[16:02:15] <janrinok> There are no new usernames in the database resembling %rain%, but there are 80+ new accounts in the last 24 hours which is very unusual for a Sunday
[16:05:12] <kolie> The wiki gets spanned with registrations all the time
[16:05:43] <kolie> I think there's something like 20,000 plus accts last time I looked all bs
[16:06:23] <kolie> I'm not sure how much cruft is in the database, but I know there's pages that are basically created that are product reviews of links to stuff and stuff like that
[16:07:01] <janrinok> No, I am looking at accounts. I cannot get into the wiki to search so the best I can do is look at each page and each link on that page.... and so on. If he has created new pages they will not show in our index.
[16:09:03] <janrinok> my original passwords no longer work, but I haven't used them since around 2018/2019 as far as I can remember
[16:10:06] <janrinok> I suppose we should move this convo to our other channel. No point in making it any easier for them
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[19:57:21] <chromas> no poe on the ont. I want my monies back
[20:00:10] <janrinok> End of another day for me - laters guys
[21:06:02] <kolie> Inject on it chromas
[21:18:37] <chromas> injector wasn't powering it
[21:19:01] <chromas> I found what Nokia would call a manual and it doesn't mention poe anywhere, though the installer said it supports it :'(
[21:45:05] <kolie> I found a manuel. He said he supports his wife and kids back home.
[21:48:31] <chromas> The wall just got ten feet higher.
[22:20:11] <kolie> chrome ass u know ur wiki loging?
[22:25:34] <chromas> Maybe
[22:25:44] <chromas> Does it have speshul logs?
[22:25:56] <kolie> login*
[22:26:01] <chromas> oh
[22:26:44] <chromas> I clicked login; it's 'batin'
[22:27:20] <chromas> takes like 12 seconds to load
[22:27:27] <chromas> k I'm logged in
[22:37:30] <kolie> yea idk why its so slow.
[22:37:41] <kolie> Just axein.. im installing markdown
[22:40:41] <kolie> I made a documentation
[22:40:41] <kolie> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:27:32] <kolie> https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[23:30:31] <kolie> going out.