#soylent | Logs for 2024-11-06
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[00:02:45] <kolie> I pushed the latest changes to the infrastructure github.
[00:37:34] <kolie> working on mediawiki.
[02:45:52] <kolie> not thrilled with the mediawiki update process.
[02:46:11] <kolie> It's hoseing the DB every time.
[02:54:18] <chromas> What I used to do was install the wiki then import the DB. Not sure about when it's a decades old install though
[02:54:32] <kolie> Well its not decades
[02:54:34] <chromas> Also I was just important Wikipedia dumps
[02:54:39] <kolie> its only 1.36 ish era
[02:55:06] <kolie> I'm building 1.36 and retrying.
[02:55:13] <chromas> Oh yeah, PHP got decent since then
[02:57:57] <kolie> WI is a problem.
[02:58:09] <kolie> if harris doesnt get WI its over
[02:58:11] <kolie> For her.
[02:58:20] <kolie> trump is in baybee
[02:59:23] <kolie> harris dont think its possible without wi, mi and PA.
[02:59:35] <kolie> Assuming NC goes red.
[03:29:58] <chromas> I thought NC already turned blue and that's why he left :D
[03:54:37] <ted-ious> https://www.nytimes.com
[03:54:40] <systemd> ^ 032024 Election Live: Trump-Harris Presidential Race News and Analysis ( https://www.nytimes.com )
[04:02:18] <ted-ious> Somebody said that nytimes had 88% and something called polymarkets was 95% for trump.
[04:02:51] <ted-ious> Meanwhile pbs is saying that all of their predictions have been coming true.
[04:04:30] <kolie> I don't think theres any real suprises yet.
[04:04:54] <kolie> PA's got a lot of votes out.
[04:05:27] <kolie> MI doesnt have wayne county in.
[04:05:45] <kolie> Kent still is largely out too.
[04:06:07] <kolie> Wi, milwauke county not in.
[04:07:07] <ted-ious> Pensylvania is where they put cardboard in the windows to keep witnesses from seeing the ballot counting.
[04:07:25] <ted-ious> The philadelphia county.
[04:11:44] <kolie> yea I think a lot of the problem is the maps show, the count as its in, and make no prediction or leanings towards counts yet to come in, based on early results from those areas
[04:12:08] <kolie> Then you get wild swings, like Michigan going red late in the last election
[04:12:18] <kolie> But if you really watched the state, you knew the red surge was coming.
[04:12:26] <kolie> The count that was out, was majorly red.
[04:12:37] <kolie> And in counties that historically went heavy trump.
[04:13:26] <kolie> And that was pretty obvious if you biothered to break it down, but I don't think most people do and think the election maps are progostications.
[04:18:28] <kolie> idk why georgia isnt called yet.
[04:18:33] <kolie> NC is called.
[04:19:03] <ted-ious> Pensylvania had more problems with voting machines in a republican county.
[04:19:17] <ted-ious> A judge had to extend it for 2 hours.
[04:19:36] <ted-ious> Sounds like what they did in arizona in 2020.
[04:19:46] <kolie> Where were the bomb threats?
[04:20:22] <ted-ious> Coming from langley virginia via russian email providers.
[04:20:44] <ted-ious> So obvious that nobody is talking about them anymore.
[04:20:52] <kolie> I mean IF i was going to use an anonymous provider to make us threats, even if I wasnt a russian actor, I'd be sending from russian servers.
[04:23:21] <kolie> Ga, arizona, we got on lock.
[04:23:56] <kolie> oregon for harris, no suprise.
[04:43:32] <kolie> I fucking HATE mediawiki.
[04:43:49] <kolie> such a cocked up upgrade process.
[04:44:41] <kolie> "just backup the database" fuck them.
[04:46:40] <kolie> looking into an xml dump.
[04:51:21] <chromas> We can replace it with something else
[04:51:31] <kolie> I'll wrangle it.
[04:51:51] <chromas> Is there another that doesn't require page titles to be AllOneWord?
[04:52:32] <kolie> mother fuck I did it.
[04:52:42] <kolie> wiki.soylentnews.org
[04:52:44] <kolie> never again.
[04:52:50] <kolie> Taking down staging.
[04:53:06] <chromas> [[IRC]]
[04:53:13] <kolie> mediawiki.
[04:53:31] <kolie> irc is going to be a bit of a kill.
[04:53:33] <chromas> Guess I didn't include that in this bot
[04:53:44] <chromas> It used to resolve wiki links
[04:53:45] <kolie> I think we are just going to have tp go to irc.sylnt.us at somepoint.
[04:58:54] <kolie> so I need to copy over logs....
[04:59:01] <kolie> trying to think the best way to do this.
[05:02:53] <chromas> Loggie logs?
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[05:29:14] <kolie2> test
[05:30:48] <chromas> LoggieTest
[05:30:48] <LoggieTest> Check out http://logs.sylnt.us
[05:31:46] <kolie2> logs.soylentnews.org
[05:31:54] <kolie2> https://logs.soylentnews.org
[05:32:24] <kolie2> test <h2>Hello!!</h2>
[05:34:32] <chromas> Why the netsplit? Are you rebooting the whole box?
[05:34:44] <kolie2> are we split right now?
[05:34:55] <chromas> Or is Loggie part of the IRC container
[05:34:57] <kolie2> everythings linked
[05:35:00] <kolie2> I had to add on a port.
[05:35:03] <kolie2> 6667 for loggie.
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[05:35:06] <chromas> No it ended
[05:35:10] <chromas> Ah
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[05:35:24] <chromas> I thought you could just rehash
[05:35:31] <kolie> It was listening
[05:35:35] <kolie> The container didn't have it open.
[05:35:37] <chromas> Though not for docker changes maybe
[05:35:41] <chromas> Ah
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[05:48:42] <ted-ious> Kamala's party in dc has announced that she won't be making an appearance tonight and everybody is going home.
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[05:51:10] <kolie> test
[05:51:13] <chromas> =smake Loggie
[05:51:20] <chromas> so many bot functions a-missin'
[05:51:37] <kolie> from logbot?
[05:52:56] <chromas> nah, other bots
[05:53:05] <chromas> MrPlow and others who are long dead
[05:53:10] <kolie> looks like a mrplow yea
[05:53:15] <chromas> not official bots
[05:54:09] <kolie> i found smake inside a bot called rustbot
[05:56:30] <chromas> that's it
[05:56:37] <chromas> TMB's bot
[05:56:37] <kolie> who made it
[05:56:56] <kolie> its got a sqlite db
[05:57:33] <chromas> I should incorporate all its functions into the systemd bot :D
[05:57:45] <chromas> I thought I had a smake equivalent at one point
[06:00:19] <kolie> do we need rustbot?
[06:00:22] <kolie> lay it to rest?
[06:00:33] <kolie> I don't have the code for it, I have a binary and some config.
[06:01:06] <chromas> It was fun to play with but it's not essential. Code used to be on jithub but it may have been deleted
[06:01:24] <chromas> ah yeah he deleted all his repos
[06:01:37] <kolie> who was it
[06:01:43] <chromas> The Mighty Buzzard
[06:01:52] <kolie> w/e
[06:01:55] <kolie> we can remake it.
[06:01:59] <kolie> I'm pro irc botter.
[06:02:19] <kolie> logs.sylnt.us is moved
[06:02:28] <kolie> mediawiki is moved and rehomed on wiki.soylentnews.org
[06:02:36] <chromas> I never learned rust and my hair's not blue.
[06:02:45] <chromas> noice
[06:02:50] <kolie> I have been doing a ton of rust for work for about 2 years now
[06:02:55] <kolie> very proficient, preferred at this point even.
[06:03:06] <chromas> Time to port rehash
[06:03:11] <kolie> yea
[06:03:19] <kolie> Well, I'm redoing api.pl
[06:03:21] <kolie> in rust.
[06:03:29] <kolie> I would've had it done but been moving other shit.
[06:05:50] <chromas> Once that's going, then all you need to do is rewrite the rest of the site to just be a frontend to the api
[06:05:55] <chromas> it's that simple!
[06:06:20] <kolie> ive been thinking about how I'd do it for a minute now.
[06:06:27] <kolie> and retain the frontend.
[06:10:01] <kolie> ehh fuck theres some secrets in this file I can't commit it yet.
[06:10:36] <chromas> Always combine data and program
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[06:24:12] <kolie> lol
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[06:26:48] <ted-ious> Hey!
[06:26:57] <kolie> wassup?
[06:27:09] <ted-ious> Oh I thought I got muted.
[06:27:25] <kolie> +r is registered nicks only.
[06:27:26] <kolie> a low bar.
[06:29:23] <ted-ious> Pensylvania called for trump and their party went crazy.
[06:29:49] <kolie> yea with PA its over.
[06:30:23] <ted-ious> So it looks like they're going to give it to him.
[06:30:24] <chromas> watch out for those f curves
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[06:30:57] <ted-ious> I don't think they can get away with that if he has more than 270 points declared.
[06:32:33] <ted-ious> Trump's teleprompters are being set up for him on the stage.
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[06:35:58] <chromas> How's the wailing and gnashing of teeth?
[06:36:44] <ted-ious> PBS is very disappointed and still saying that pensylvania is not official yet.
[06:45:32] <chromas> oy, I see the stats mails now
[06:51:25] <kolie> Alright dudes I'm out of here.
[06:52:40] <ted-ious> PBS is saying over and over that only fox has declared pensylvania.
[06:53:00] <ted-ious> They are panicking.
[06:54:13] <ted-ious> I guess they can't remember as far back as 2020 when fox called arizona early when it was nothing like complete.
[08:02:32] <kolie> /msg chanserv help access
[08:02:40] <kolie> /msg chanserv help access
[08:02:52] <chromas> <ChanServ> bewbs
[08:02:57] <kolie> boobs
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[08:10:03] <chromas> ooh, o and F
[08:10:21] <kolie> atheme is a pita.
[08:10:41] <chromas> Time to upgrade to irc3
[08:13:24] <kolie> /msg ChanServ ACCESS #soylent LIST
[08:13:34] <kolie> hmm.
[08:13:45] <kolie> idk seems to me like no one has any access here.
[08:13:47] <chromas> Too many spaces
[08:13:56] <kolie> maybe im readying it wrong.
[08:14:11] <chromas> Probably
[08:14:33] <kolie> whats the command to see whos on !staff or whatever.
[08:15:31] <chromas> GroupServ
[08:16:05] <kolie> I forgot about gserv.
[08:16:08] <kolie> duh.
[08:16:21] <chromas> There's so many Servs
[08:16:37] <chromas> They used to be named funny back in the day. Like we had BaconServ...and I forgot the rest
[08:18:34] <chromas> Not sure how it works because most groups only appear to have one or two members
[08:18:45] <chromas> and I know they've got more
[08:18:59] <chromas> import Deucalion
[08:20:54] <chromas> I think auto voicing and stuff might be done by vhost mask
[08:21:09] <kolie> it can be yea.
[08:21:11] <chromas> 'cause I've had to invite myself to some channels since I changed mine
[08:23:54] <chromas> it sure likes to complain about pbkdf2
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[08:40:10] <Core6508> morning jan
[08:41:18] <Core6508> I'm off to bed.
[08:41:38] <chromas> g'noight
[08:42:22] <chromas> thanks for fixing us up
[08:44:18] <Core6508> np we are getting there.
[08:44:42] <janrinok> #politics - we have a special channel just for much of this chatter
[08:46:03] <Core6508> I'll have to pop in there
[08:46:38] <chromas> true but it's not like this channel's otherwise busy
[08:51:19] <janrinok> Morning! You should be in bed by now???
[08:51:58] <Core6508> I'm in bed. just making sure wiki. and logs. look good
[08:52:07] <Core6508> they do so I'm going to sleep now.
[08:52:24] <Core6508> I turned off wiki.staging and the old loggie.
[08:52:45] <janrinok> lol - thanks for the work, but get some sleep. Otherwise you will become a sad person like the rest of us....!
[08:53:10] <Core6508> it's only 1 :) all good m8
[08:53:14] <Core6508> gn
[08:53:24] <chromas> he's in my timezone!
[08:53:24] <janrinok> gn
[08:53:28] * chromas looks under the bed
[08:53:47] <janrinok> yeah, but much further south...
[08:53:57] <janrinok> so look under the end of your bed
[08:54:25] <janrinok> I am getting site emails !!!
[08:55:18] <janrinok> ... and no spam telling me about Ukrainian girls who live in my area!
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[08:55:58] <chromas> it's so quiet now
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[08:56:43] <janrinok> yeah, perhaps we should keep one old server just for the lulz
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[16:18:41] <janrinok> The stats are now going out - which is good. Unfortunately to the wrong email address, which is not so good.
[16:19:33] <Core6508> they go to an alias which I didn't change Are they not supposed to
[16:19:53] <Core6508> I think they go out to admin@ or something
[16:20:09] <Core6508> yeah confirmed
[16:20:45] <janrinok> Well they should be going to janrinok@soylentnews.org - not my private email address
[16:21:13] <Core6508> okay sure. I think just going to the alias and assign it correctly take out your private put in your soylent
[16:21:33] <janrinok> see the PM
[16:22:02] <janrinok> PM to kolie
[16:22:20] <Core6508> won't be check ing& that for an hour unless resent here, on my mobile
[16:22:38] <janrinok> OK
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[17:22:49] <kolie> o/
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[17:33:40] <kolie> janrinok, you have access to soylent-host-0.soylentnews.org
[17:33:49] <kolie> via ssh pubkey.
[17:46:56] <kolie> Whats #dev used for?
[17:47:38] <kolie> We got #staff, #dev, and #sysops
[17:47:54] <kolie> staff is obviousish.
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[18:05:13] <kolie> So trying to figure out how to move the main instance of IRCd
[18:05:37] <kolie> I just plan to turn off solanum on the old production system, and rename the instance on soylent-host-0
[18:05:52] <kolie> We have a proliferation of names for the old prod system
[18:06:00] <kolie> irc.soylentnews.org, chat.soylentnews.org, irc.sylnt.us
[18:07:57] <janrinok> I've been cooking, then eating!
[18:08:47] <janrinok> Yes the proliferation of names has always been a problem. Dev was used for development work, testing/QA, and training when available.
[18:09:27] <kolie> So a training instance of rehash to me, IS a production system.
[18:09:29] <janrinok> In that order of priority
[18:09:56] <kolie> That needs to be worked, backed up, etc.
[18:10:17] <kolie> so in production we run two rehashes, rehash, and rehash-dev
[18:10:54] <janrinok> OK, but it is one that isn't but is used only by staff. At some point (after testing/QA it has to be released somewhere to enable the community to hammer it a little more than we can do on our own.
[18:10:57] <kolie> That makes sense to me, and then we can take the system as a whole, and run it at like dev.testing.soylentnews.org, testing.soylentnews.org, that can be the hot spare system with development/code changes.
[18:11:22] <kolie> Ok, well we aren't quite there yet in either case.
[18:11:44] <kolie> I'm slowing shutting stuff down on linode.
[18:11:54] <kolie> Loggie is moved, we got wiki, we got dev.
[18:12:01] <janrinok> no, but it is not a must do immediately. We have been without for almost 2 years, I am sure that we can manage somehow...
[18:12:22] <kolie> dns, primary IRCd, other irc bots.
[18:12:36] <kolie> That's basically whats left.
[18:13:03] <kolie> we have three ircds right now irc.staging, irc.testing, and ( irc.soylentnews.org, chat.soylentnews.org, irc.sylnt.us )
[18:13:15] <kolie> irc.testing needs to be promoted to the later.
[18:13:21] <janrinok> then concentrate on them first, in any order you think is sensible.
[18:13:35] <kolie> Ok, I don't think theres a clean way to do the ircd switch.
[18:13:49] <janrinok> nope, probably not...
[18:14:14] <kolie> I'm going to update the configs, im going to update the dns, and then just start/stop irc.testing and hope it works and fix it.
[18:14:15] <janrinok> chromas probably knows what we need better than most people
[18:14:21] <kolie> We have libera?
[18:14:49] <janrinok> Libera is a fallback incase our site went down and took IRC with it.
[18:15:22] <kolie> Ok. because im fucking around with ircd, im going to be active in libera
[18:15:26] <janrinok> at some point (I think...?) they were both on the same server but I could easily be wrong on that.
[18:15:47] <janrinok> fair enough. Most staff should know about it.
[18:16:01] <kolie> its #soylentnews on libera, or was it a different irc network
[18:17:15] <janrinok> ALL STAFF: We are going to be doing some work on moving the ircd. Please ensure that you have an account on libera.chat channel ##soylent and our usual secure channel. This IRC might be up and down a bit
[18:18:59] <janrinok> kolie - it is ##soylent on libera
[18:19:05] <kolie> ok
[18:19:28] <janrinok> CORRECTION ##soylentnews
[18:19:30] <kolie> thought so.
[18:34:43] <chromas> BRing back ##altslashdot!
[18:34:58] <kolie> Minor issue, if I update dns for chat, znc goes kaput.
[18:35:01] <janrinok> boomer - said the oldest boomer
[18:35:07] <kolie> Might have to move znc first.
[18:35:31] <janrinok> well, let see what dies.... :D
[18:35:45] <kolie> nah I know znc most people use chat.soylentnews.org
[18:35:57] <kolie> Does anyone sue chat.soylentnews.org to connect to the IRCd directly though.
[18:36:45] <chromas> Dunno. Changing dns won't kill current connections though so it's okay
[18:37:00] <janrinok> who knows - I have 3 open at the moment and I haven't a clue which is which anymore
[18:37:05] <kolie> haha.
[18:37:06] <kolie> Alright.
[18:37:17] <kolie> libera to the rescue.
[18:37:22] <chromas> The only person using the znc who isn't off doing something else is janrinok
[18:37:29] <kolie> and me.
[18:37:34] <janrinok> so, are you picking a fight?
[18:38:06] <chromas> No, Mr. Bond, I'm picking a nose.
[18:38:20] <janrinok> when we get to one IRC again I'll sign on to that and stay there (perhaps, maybe)
[18:38:33] <janrinok> boogie boomer
[18:39:10] <chromas> It's been ages since we only had one
[18:39:21] <janrinok> there can BE only one!
[18:40:05] <chromas> well, get to it then. chop chop!
[18:40:15] * chromas heads out
[18:41:19] <janrinok> if you are not careful it will be chromas head's off
[18:41:37] <inz> Off with his head!
[18:42:08] <chromas> You can take my head but I won't give it. Das ghey
[18:42:20] <kolie> uhm, so what uhh main dns do we want for irc
[18:42:23] <kolie> irc.sylnt.us ?
[18:42:26] <kolie> irc.soylentnews.org?
[18:42:48] <janrinok> irc.soylentnews.org seems the most obvious to me.
[18:42:53] <kolie> i second it.
[18:43:04] <kolie> ill try to make the old ones work.
[18:43:11] <kolie> But im maining irc.soylentnews.org
[18:43:57] <janrinok> I was never sure of the purpose of sylnt.us other that we grabbed it very quickly at the start.
[18:43:57] <kolie> whats the legal phoenic name?
[18:44:05] <kolie> phoenix *
[18:44:10] <kolie> I say it becomes our test domain
[18:44:17] <janrinok> soylent-phoenix
[18:44:25] <kolie> soylentnews.org is production, development is sylnt.us
[18:44:28] <chromas> We also had a url shortener
[18:44:36] <kolie> soylent-phoenix llc?
[18:44:37] <janrinok> but the URLs should be consistent IMO
[18:44:53] <janrinok> stand-by
[18:45:18] <chromas> then after that we should rename it to soylent-firefox
[18:47:11] <janrinok> kolie, on your contract it just says soylent-phoenix
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[18:47:44] <kolie> I can't help you with that dave.
[18:48:12] <janrinok> likewise on the Transfer Document signed by both Boards
[18:48:56] <chromas> so the real domain should by sylntphn.ix
[18:49:31] <Dave> Soylent Phoenix is like trump re-elected?
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[18:52:12] <chromas> Lightning has a better connector than USB-C
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[18:58:16] <kolie> So I know the dns update wont matter
[18:58:30] <kolie> Oh I guess znc will resolve fine still
[18:58:41] <kolie> im not shutting down znc, itll reconnect to irc when it comes back
[18:58:53] <chromas> It's not using localhost?
[18:59:11] <kolie> ZNC I updated people to use irc.testing
[18:59:16] <kolie> cause I knew we would be killing prod
[19:00:15] <kolie> znc is set to use testing...
[19:00:24] <kolie> confirmed.
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[19:19:06] <soylentil7> farts
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[19:19:27] <kolie2> well no ones here.
[19:21:12] <kolie2> I suppose they are on the old ircd.
[19:21:13] <kolie2> ill drop it.
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[19:22:10] <kolie2> I mean damn that wasn't bad.
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[19:23:11] <kolie2> that was pretty cool actually.
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[19:23:53] <kolie2> One more item down.
[19:24:18] <kolie2> I'm going to go see about flying. The crosswinds earlier were basically test pilot status so may be a no go but going to go check out the field.
[19:25:01] <kolie2> Only an 8kts cross rn.
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[19:41:11] <janrinok> hi ted-ious
[19:41:53] <janrinok> ted-ious, we are working on IRC so you might experience interruptions.
[19:43:05] <kolie2> I think we're all done
[19:43:16] <kolie2> Not only that I got z and c on my phone now
[19:43:23] <kolie2> Which makes me super pumped
[19:43:23] <janrinok> I thought you had gone flying...
[19:43:34] <kolie2> I got to get there, Dead stop traffic on the 405
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[19:45:18] <janrinok> more kolies than you can shake a stick at!
[19:45:59] <kolie> I try to use a ZNC, but I like to test and make sure everything works on all the old addresses and direct connections and stuff then I do testing
[19:46:09] <kolie> But I'm really liking the new system
[19:46:27] <kolie> What bots do I need to be aware of outside of loggy
[19:46:47] <kolie> I'll probably move some of those tonight and then I'll think about what I want to do with DNS
[19:47:13] <janrinok> chromas^^^
[19:48:09] <janrinok> of the top of my head, Bender, systemd, .... thinking
[19:48:31] <kolie> Oh that reminds me there's a pearl IRC stats generator PISG
[19:48:34] <janrinok> =cite
[19:48:38] <kolie> Do we use that
[19:48:43] <janrinok> we do
[19:48:55] <kolie> I'm not sure how it gets the logs It's stats on I'll have to look at that config
[19:49:15] <janrinok> well, we did. It made some pretty charts and things
[19:50:36] <janrinok> and whatever bot gives us =cite, but I haven't a clue which bot that is.
[19:50:56] <kolie> Is it not here right now
[19:51:45] <janrinok> nope, but because mine dropped out for a second or two, it might just require reloading. Chromas would know that.
[19:52:01] <kolie> Yeah well it's not on the new system I know that
[19:52:11] <kolie> And it could need a redirect they might be using localhost on Berry
[19:52:21] <janrinok> I take it that they are not all in one place?
[19:52:35] <kolie> The only bought I moved was loggy everything else is on Barry still
[19:52:59] <kolie> I know where Bender is kept
[19:53:10] <kolie> I'm not sure what bot does cite
[19:53:27] <kolie> I know there's PISG but I don't know how it gets its log so I got to look into that as well
[19:53:45] <janrinok> not important for the moment
[19:54:15] <kolie> That leaves ZNC in bind, those are going to be the last things I do
[19:54:43] <janrinok> yeah, frightening isn't it :)
[19:54:59] <kolie> I mean it's been smooth so far so knock on wood
[19:55:11] <janrinok> I hope you are making copious notes
[19:55:51] <kolie> Yeah I actually have notes of things that I want to adjust once we get everything settled and not on old stuff
[19:56:14] <kolie> The main issue I have is we have configuration things that are not supposed to be public, but we want to check in all the configuration
[19:56:31] <kolie> And how I was loading in secrets when it was only traefik, was not scalable to multiple containers
[19:56:47] <kolie> And so I kind of got that figured out now foir containers in
[19:57:03] <kolie> But I need to update the old containers to follow the new convention
[19:57:20] <kolie> And I have the same script copied to every container directory I'm probably just going to move it into user bin
[19:57:35] <kolie> Stuff like that just needs to be cleaned up and then I can fully download that into a wiki entry
[20:01:02] <janrinok> It is not surprise - things change especially when you least expect them to. Containers are not too difficult for you but I don't think that any body knows exactly what is where on the Linode hardware.
[20:02:13] <janrinok> What I find amazing is that you have moved the contents of 6 servers onto a single server and it is more responsive than what we had before!
[20:02:22] <janrinok> kolie+
[20:02:29] <kolie> Yeah the container part is the easiest part to teach because there's only a few minor concepts that you really need to understand if you already understand the system without docker
[20:02:34] <janrinok> +kolie
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[20:02:57] <kolie> And I could show you how to get a command line into the various containers.
[20:03:22] <janrinok> Chromas, my good chap, can you tell kolie which bots need to be transferred here please?
[20:03:28] <kolie> And basically what you are doing is, conceptually, forget it's a container, imagine each container is just a standalone server. I'm going to give you a command that's going to SSH you into every server.
[20:03:59] <kolie> That may or may not be useful, but then it fits into your mental framework of system management.
[20:04:11] <chromas> ah, it doesn't like port 7000 anymore
[20:04:25] <kolie> 7000 is what webirc is using
[20:04:34] <kolie> Use 6697 of you are a human
[20:04:49] <kolie> Is 7000 an unofficial standard?
[20:04:55] <janrinok> for which server?
[20:05:11] <kolie> The remaining one.
[20:05:13] <janrinok> irc.soylentnews.org
[20:05:15] <chromas> I guess so. It's been around for at least most of the time
[20:05:33] <chromas> it's cool though, I don't think anyone else here was using it
[20:05:38] <kolie> Okay we can probably move the web IRC to another port and then make $7000 for humans again
[20:05:50] <chromas> nah don't worry about it
[20:06:07] <kolie> Okay I just use the config I was using on staging and staging has been around for a minute
[20:07:44] <kolie> But yeah Chrome is check the logs for here, we were discussing remaining items for moving
[20:07:51] <kolie> IRC bots and otherwise
[20:07:55] <kolie> Chromas*
[20:08:13] <kolie> I'm at the airport bbiab.
[20:08:18] <janrinok> It is approaching my end of day - i will see what is left tomorrow morning. Tks kolie once again. Enjoy your flying if you get there.
[20:08:30] <kolie> Cheers Jan sleep well.
[20:08:49] <chromas> Bender I think is the only other bot we're using
[20:09:06] <chromas> There was Regurgitator, which was an RSS bot, but Bender's been doing tjat
[20:09:13] <janrinok> which one gives us =cite?
[20:09:23] <chromas> heh, I typoed "that", so I corrected it to the same typo
[20:09:29] <chromas> systemd
[20:09:50] <chromas> I'm running that locally. It's buggy so you don't want to run it on your server ;)
[20:10:12] <janrinok> it is still useful
[20:10:23] <janrinok> what language? D?
[20:10:34] <chromas> yeah
[20:10:48] <chromas> For some reason I was conencting by ip so it didn't come back in
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[20:11:01] <janrinok> =cite
[20:11:01] <systemd> Generate a block of HTML for citing an article. Takes DOIs and URLs. Template:
[20:11:01] <systemd> ${authors}<b>${title}</b>${access}, <cite>${journal}</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/${doi}">${doi}</a>)
[20:11:07] <janrinok> that's the one!
[20:11:37] <chromas> Yeah, then other unofficial bots included aqu4, MrPlow and exec
[20:12:04] <janrinok> do you mean there are 'official' bots - I thought it was just the Bot Army
[20:13:08] <chromas> Bender was official (I guess) and the others were user-run
[20:13:21] <chromas> though MrPlow was running on the server too for whatever reason
[20:13:51] <chromas> his duties were #fite, #submit, #roll and probably some other stuff
[20:13:54] <janrinok> is your D code downloadable - I would like to try converting it to Go?
[20:14:49] <chromas> well it's poorly designed. the buggiest part would probably be the jerry-seinfeld-rigged html parser. I've got a link somewhere
[20:15:15] <chromas> oh I don't 'cause I took my gitea instance down
[20:15:28] <janrinok> Yes, just like my code, and everyone else's code. I'm am not expecting reams of documentation and a 2-week training course
[20:17:36] <janrinok> Anyway, my bed is calling me in soft enticing tones... I cannot resist any longer...
[20:17:46] <chromas> g'night
[20:17:47] <janrinok> see you all tomorrow
[20:17:58] <chromas> c u next time
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[20:19:03] <chromas> What I should do is put back my article extractor as a web page, then just have the bot use that
[20:19:14] <chromas> extraction-as-a-service
[20:19:51] <chromas> newscat's pretty good and writen in go, but doesn't preserve links or anything
[21:37:30] <chromas> kolie: Does devbot have any features yet?
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[22:26:24] <kolie> What is Dev
[22:26:28] <kolie> Devbot
[22:27:36] <kolie> Chromas, so what we need to copy off of Barry is Bender essentially and that's it?
[22:28:15] <chromas> oh I don't recall what was on what box, but as far as bots, I believe so
[22:28:50] <kolie> Yeah I mean we're getting to a point where the linode box is shut down
[22:28:56] <chromas> sweet
[22:29:29] <chromas> heh, we could download the disk image and just mount it if we need to pull something else out
[22:29:33] <kolie> So yeah Bender, The Pearl IRC stats maybe, DNS, ZNC, That's what's running on bery currently
[22:29:52] <kolie> Yeah plan to for sure
[22:29:58] <chromas> oh yeah there was a stats bot many moons ago. I forgot what it was called
[22:30:13] <kolie> Pisg
[22:30:26] <chromas> Yeah. Don't recall the name of the bot who collected it
[22:30:34] <chromas> D-something perhaps
[22:30:36] <chromas> Diego
[22:31:09] <kolie> Okay. Why did we have so many bots?
[22:31:17] <kolie> Instead of like consolidating the features on one
[22:31:40] <chromas> It's from a time when there was a bunch of active people all doing stuff
[22:31:57] <chromas> If Bender or some other bot can handle stuff you can feel free to consolidate
[22:34:13] <chromas> We also had several people creating bots here just for fun and to learn new languages
[22:34:48] <kolie> Yeah I wouldn't mind I could do it pretty quick.
[22:34:53] <chromas> Diego, Regurgitator and Bender are the only officiallish ones, as far as I recall
[22:34:55] <kolie> I'm not sure what features they all have
[22:35:41] <kolie> Definitely a stage two item though
[22:36:10] <kolie> I think we need to keep a list of good to do things on the wiki
[22:36:25] <kolie> I was thinking maybe on the GitHub for infrastructure is like an issue or project tracker but that seems a little disconnected from the community
[22:38:30] <kolie> What did Diego and regurgitator do?
[22:41:26] <chromas> Diego collected pisg stats, regurgitator collected rss feeds in #rss-bot although I think Bender does that part now
[22:43:52] <chromas> I thought devbot was something you were running. It keeps reconnecting every once in awhile
[22:56:12] <kolie> Okay I'll check what it was
[22:56:20] <kolie> It's probably something I just copied off of Barry and change the name of
[22:56:35] <kolie> There was also one that was checking the commits to GitHub and making announcements
[22:56:49] <kolie> Could have been part of that
[23:11:00] <kolie> its a go bot written with irccloud
[23:11:02] <kolie> its on staging.
[23:11:43] <kolie> you basically write out to nc host port | some message, and it goes to irc.
[23:11:47] <kolie> really easy to interface with.
[23:27:19] <kolie> https://soylentnews.org
[23:27:20] <systemd> ^ 03Journal of kolie (2622)
[23:31:07] <kolie> alright. hmm what to work on.
[23:31:40] <kolie> lunch is taken care of sitting down and looking at whats priority with whats left.
[23:35:51] <kolie> alright so regurgitator is eggdrop...