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[00:04:21] <kolie> When are you training more editors. I can do some editing for sure.
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[00:34:56] <sedge> Nominating kolie for Editor-in-Chief!
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[02:08:55] <kolie> The “testing” results showed a significant performance improvement over “tungsten.” In “testing,” read IOPS increased from 125 to 16.6k and write IOPS from 31 to 4,185, with read bandwidth jumping from 502 KiB/s to 65.0 MiB/s and write bandwidth from 126 KiB/s to 16.4 MiB/s. The duration of “testing” was much shorter at 3,074 ms compared to “tungsten’s” 407,145 ms. Although CPU usage was higher in “testing,” ind
[02:08:55] <kolie> icating more intensive processing, the overall disk utilization remained high but slightly lower for “dm-0.” This demonstrates a substantial performance boost, likely due to improvements in the fio version and possibly hardware or configuration changes.
[02:09:23] <kolie> I believe it's mostly hardware related.
[02:11:30] <kolie> Right now, I'm going to do a dry run for tmw, and copy production to dev.soylentnews.org
[02:41:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Third Parties Can Now Repair McDonalds' McFlurry Machines - https://soylentnews.org - cooler-heads-prevailed
[04:01:26] <chromas> "A show so good it managed to raise everyone's Amazon Prime memberships to make up for the losses."
[04:03:52] <ted-ious> Another bad lord of the rings series?
[04:04:36] <ted-ious> Or was there something else with even worse ratings?
[04:04:59] <chromas> new season I guess
[04:06:21] <kolie> Confirming I have linode access.
[04:08:05] <chromas> Confirmed!
[05:26:38] <kolie> rehash isnt building.
[05:26:42] <kolie> This is going to be an issue :)
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[05:53:05] <Fnord666> =asub https://lifehacker.com
[05:53:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How the 'Fediverse' Works (and Why It Might be the Future of Social Media)" (19p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[06:13:50] <isospeculum> =asub https://www.thenation.com
[06:14:43] <isospeculum> I am totally not aristarchus! Really!
[06:14:53] <kolie> k
[06:22:56] <isospeculum> Janrinok is going off in khallow's journal. Might need some coaching.
[06:33:01] <kolie> isospeculum, is this you: https://soylentnews.org
[06:33:02] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Operating Manual For Spaceship Earth ( https://soylentnews.org )
[06:34:10] <isospeculum> Do you share jan's obsession with doxing AC commentors?
[06:34:25] <kolie> I just asked a simple question.
[06:34:43] <isospeculum> And I gave the proper reply.
[06:34:56] <kolie> How am I doxxing anyone by asking a question?
[06:35:17] <isospeculum> You are asking me to tie an AC comment to my nick. Bad form.
[06:35:44] <isospeculum> Of course, if I deny, that will be taken as an admission.
[06:36:11] <kolie> It's not doxxing if you answer a question.
[06:36:42] <isospeculum> Certainly not if I don't!
[06:36:43] <kolie> I am allowed to speculate and ask questions, without having malicious intent, or making it me doxxing.
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[06:37:06] <kolie> whatsup jan, ari says hey.
[06:37:37] <isospeculum> jan won't talk to me. The memories are too painful.
[06:37:39] <janrinok_> everything is fine, how is it with you
[06:37:58] <kolie> I ran into an issue with rehash building.
[06:37:58] <isospeculum> And, I totally am not aristarchus.
[06:38:02] <kolie> Luckily I was doing a dry run.
[06:38:37] <janrinok> is it a biggie?
[06:38:50] <kolie> No, but I don't know much about perl and building so it took me a little while to diagnose.
[06:39:04] <janrinok> is it resolved now?
[06:39:13] <kolie> The answer is skip testing on building a third party sub module - they must've updated something and tests fail but the component works.
[06:39:34] <kolie> I made a commit to rehash, and I'm rebuilding images.
[06:39:50] <janrinok> OK, take your time - and get some sleep
[06:39:50] <kolie> 72/106 building the image I plan to use tmw.
[06:39:59] <janrinok> .... today for me
[06:40:15] <kolie> Yea I call it around midnight usually, so, want to see this buidl then I'll head home.
[06:40:50] <kolie> pm.
[06:40:58] <janrinok> well take care of yourself before the site.
[06:41:20] <isospeculum> Is IRC still on staging?
[06:43:29] <kolie> uhh yea
[06:43:33] <kolie> staging, testing, and old prod.
[06:44:02] <isospeculum> Had some issues, but no biggie.
[06:44:06] <kolie> I'll edit the DNS for staging to be testing.
[06:44:11] <kolie> Or vice versa .
[06:44:39] <isospeculum> Double on what janrinok said!
[06:45:04] <kolie> What issues did you get?
[06:45:33] <isospeculum> Failure to connect.
[06:46:01] <kolie> oh. what dns/port where you using?
[06:46:15] <kolie> rehash just built.
[06:48:10] <isospeculum> https://irc.staging.soylentnews.org
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[06:48:35] <kolie> seems to be fine, but that connects via testing.
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[11:59:42] <janrinok_> kolie, I have been informed that the SSD will arrive today and not Wednesday as previously forecast.
[12:16:40] <Ingar> huza
[13:08:14] <janrinok> Hi, Ingar!
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[13:25:13] <Ingar> Hi janrinok !
[13:25:40] <janrinok> how's things?
[13:25:53] <Ingar> work work work
[13:26:17] <Ingar> it's autumn vacation here so I finally got some peace and quite to catch up with some backlog
[13:26:27] <Ingar> *peace and quiet
[13:28:11] <janrinok> autumn vacation - that is a new one on me. It is just a long weekend, a week or two, or something else?
[13:52:47] <Ingar> traditionally, the week of 1st nov
[13:53:17] <Ingar> schoolkids are home
[13:53:20] * Ingar is at work :D
[13:53:38] <janrinok> lol
[13:54:29] <janrinok> I think in the UK it is know as 'half-term', and I have no idea what the French call it.
[15:14:06] <chromas> Something with psilent lettres and at least one l'apostrophe
[15:14:31] <janrinok> oh, at least one...
[15:26:51] <kolie> I have an appt in 30 min, ill be back in an hour or so to push the big button.
[15:27:19] <chromas> nah, do it now. fire and forget!
[15:28:08] <janrinok> OK - see you in a while
[15:28:16] <chromas> click'n'run, boot'n'scoot
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[16:38:46] <Fnord666> sedge--
[16:38:46] <Bender> karma - sedge: -2
[16:40:54] <janrinok> Fnord666, kolie is due to appear any time now :)
[16:40:56] <Fnord666> yup seems to be working ok
[16:41:12] <janrinok> nothing has changed yet - he got called to another appt
[16:41:43] <Fnord666> ah ok.
[16:42:08] <janrinok> PM?
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[17:13:36] <kolie> o/
[17:13:48] <kolie> going to take a piss and get this show on the road.
[17:14:11] <janrinok> welcome back - perhaps too much detail but what the hell....
[17:14:29] <janrinok> real life has a habit of spoiling plans
[17:15:59] <Ingar> don't worry there are perfectly fine solutions if you have issues in that area
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[17:19:07] <kolie> Preparing the front page place holder.
[17:24:05] <kolie> we are down.
[17:24:16] <janrinok> yep - can confirm that
[17:24:50] <kolie> backing up site, updating dns.
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[17:27:13] <kolie> dns is ready.
[17:27:20] <kolie> backup taken.
[17:27:49] <kolie> Transfering db.
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[17:28:36] <kolie> transfered, loading it.
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[17:29:17] * fab23 let's hit reload on SN: https://youtu.be
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[17:30:10] <kolie> database is loading.
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[17:31:19] <janrinok> front page place holder has disappeared....
[17:31:30] <kolie> dns updated too quick I guess.
[17:31:33] <kolie> It wont be long.
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[17:32:00] <janrinok> shows how quick the DNS propagates though
[17:32:04] <kolie> give it 10 minutes.
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[17:32:19] <kolie> Yea I probably put a landing page on the new side.
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[17:32:54] <kolie> Oh, no certs.
[17:33:07] <kolie> It'll be quick :)
[17:34:21] <kolie> worst case we just go back the other way.
[17:34:29] <janrinok> yeah, no sweat
[17:34:32] <kolie> I've ran the transfer enough I think it'll work.
[17:34:52] <kolie> Just not sure what changing @ and www dns will have for effects.
[17:34:52] <janrinok> take it slow - it'll work
[17:39:13] <fab23> kolie: soylentnews.org and www.soylentnews.org currently have both new + old IPv4+6 addresses in DNS.
[17:40:45] <kolie> I can not confirm that.
[17:41:02] <ted-ious> DNS caches unless you prepare for the change by setting the ttl very low the night before.
[17:42:27] <kolie> fixed dns.
[17:42:37] <ted-ious> I think the smartest way to do it is to make the ttl 1 hour until the old entries expire and the refresh time 1 minute starting 2 hours before the change.
[17:42:55] <ted-ious> But people have different opinions on everything.
[17:43:34] <janrinok> the only thing I am seeing is a cert problem with Traefik - so I am definitely pointing at the right site.
[17:44:08] <fab23> kolie: https://scratchy.ponz.ch
[17:44:10] <systemd> ^ 03PONZ IRC: soylentnews.org resolve through local resolver and quad9
[17:44:29] <fab23> ted-ious: TTL was down to 300, which should be fine
[17:45:33] <fab23> kolie: I can confirm, at least Quad9 now has only 1 IP for IPv4
[17:45:51] <ted-ious> fab23: If you have enough patience to wait 5 minutes between tests. :)
[17:46:20] <fab23> ted-ious: 5 minutes is nothing if you look at the age of the universe :)
[17:46:49] <janrinok> varnish has restarted with a ERROR 503 Backend fetch failed
[17:47:05] <kolie> mysql isnt up.
[17:47:14] <ted-ious> The universe will close your browser tab and forget about you if you are down for a significant time. :)
[17:47:18] <janrinok> that'll probably explain it :)
[17:47:24] <ted-ious> If it takes 12 tests to fix a problem you could be down an extra hour instead of an extra coffee break.
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[17:48:42] <fab23> ted-ious: on my day job I occasionally fight with Google Search, which complains that it can not index some stuff because of such and such, sure it can't, because we don't want this to be indext at all. :)
[17:48:47] <MehBlah> /msg NickServ HELP
[17:49:35] <kolie> rehash container dns issue, looking into it.
[17:49:49] <fab23> MehBlah: try again without the first space character
[17:50:31] <janrinok> he knows
[17:50:37] <MehBlah> I'm just going to install irssi on something
[17:51:37] <janrinok> site is up for me
[17:51:48] <kolie> yea just got it conencted up.
[17:51:56] <janrinok> looking good
[17:52:21] <kolie> fuck I have to make it gickup one second lol.
[17:53:03] <kolie> started the container in interactive mode
[17:53:12] <kolie> ok its in the background now.
[17:53:40] <janrinok> that would have been fun if you hadn't have spotted it....
[17:54:26] <janrinok> I#m getting good response times. No obvious issues.
[17:54:47] <kolie> im aware of one potential and im checking it out first.
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[17:59:15] <ted-ious> fab23: Does google beat up your site when it tries to index it?
[18:00:11] <ted-ious> I always thought it was crazy that the only way we have for searching the web means wasting so much bandwidth on downloading everything on the web.
[18:00:50] <kolie> email wasn't configured but it is now.
[18:01:17] <kolie> afaik, site is 100% operational.
[18:01:46] <fab23> ted-ious: no it usualy does not cause any trouble, other crawler (mostly not from search engines) are sometimes a problem in crawling to fast
[18:01:53] <janrinok> looking good for me at the moment
[18:01:55] <kolie> I'll setup backups to tungsten after lunch.
[18:02:39] <janrinok> take your time, no rush for the moment
[18:02:45] <janrinok> ...and thanks!
[18:03:01] <fab23> cool, I just tried in my main browser, and site is there and I am directly logged in, so all fine
[18:03:20] <fab23> so I will adjust the nagios check then
[18:04:57] <fab23> the new IPv4 is not far away from the private IP range :)
[18:05:11] <kolie> I like that about it.
[18:05:15] <kolie> It's my favorite IP block I own.
[18:06:30] <kolie> I'll be checking my cell for texts and my ennwise email, taking lunch.
[18:09:18] <kolie> nm here for a little bit my lunch buddy is disposed.
[18:09:27] <janrinok> Thanks again - and enjoy your lunch.
[18:09:39] <kolie> that went well I think.
[18:10:10] <janrinok> Not bad at all. The site is up and working.
[18:11:54] <janrinok> PM
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[18:55:36] <cupernicus> Is the db preserving all 4000+ deletions?
[18:56:06] <kolie> the db is unchanged as it was .
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[18:58:50] <fab23> what a silly question this was :)
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[19:01:04] <janrinok> why would it change. Spam is still spam. People who are banned are still banned.
[19:01:56] <fab23> how should deleted stuff re-appear anyway?
[19:03:37] <janrinok> kolie has changed the hardware, nobody has changed the site's rules.
[19:04:49] <fab23> :)
[19:05:06] <fab23> IT may be too complicated for some creatures :)
[19:07:48] <cupernicus> IOW, free speech is still dead on SN?
[19:08:36] <cupernicus> OK, thanks for the heads up!
[19:08:57] <fab23> no comment
[19:09:17] <cupernicus> exactly.
[19:09:26] <janrinok> Everybody who is entitled to use the site can exercise their free speech. You are not entitled....
[19:09:43] <Ingar> please gentlemen use /ignore
[19:09:45] <cupernicus> I just joined!
[19:10:18] <fab23> for sure :)
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[19:17:24] <fab23> comments seem to work, including 🙃
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[19:25:05] <galacticari> /ignore?
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[19:47:46] <kolie> Taking lunch.
[19:47:53] <kolie> fab23, we can do utf8 now?
[19:48:56] <fab23> kolie: I think in comments emojies always worked, and in IRC it depends on the recipients /char settings :)
[19:50:23] <kolie> where did they not work?
[19:51:17] <fab23> I do remember that in subject on a article or in an article itself do not work, may also not work in comment subject.
[19:51:50] <fab23> but even 🙃 can be substituted with (-:
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[21:21:23] <janrinok> SITE IS DOWN
[21:21:31] <kolie> Yea I see that.
[21:21:39] <janrinok> ok ....
[21:22:40] <janrinok__> I have an alarm that sounds when the site goes down :), I was nice and snug in bed .....
[21:23:18] <kolie> up go to sleep :)
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[21:23:26] <janrinok> lol
[21:23:38] <kolie> i was putting in backups.
[21:23:40] <janrinok> I leave it your capable hands sir.....
[21:23:46] <kolie> thx. c u soon.
[21:23:54] <kolie> I wont leave it in a broken state, but im playing with it rn.
[21:24:00] <kolie> I'm trying to automate backups to tungsten.
[21:24:12] <janrinok> np. just my normal reaction to that alarm :)
[21:24:22] <kolie> all good m8, take care thx again.
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[22:04:19] <kolie> backups are automated to go to tungsten.
[22:04:39] <kolie> I'll be cleaning up the infrastructure scripts and commiting more of them to git tommorow.
[22:25:48] <chromas> =yt the website is down
[22:25:49] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Website is Down #1: Sales Guy vs. Web Dude (10:24; 2,089,646 views; 👍32,842)
[22:25:53] <chromas> gotta paste the classics