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[23:34:53] <realaristarchus> We are all minions, now. Right, janrinok?
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[21:49:07] <kolie> penfifteen
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[20:16:55] <Ingar> he lives on the early bird side
[20:16:07] <Ingar> there is no aristarchus in this moon image
[20:15:30] <Ingar> here's a friday moon http://ingar.intranifty.net (Sry janrinok if my host still messes up on your end)
[18:38:01] <janrinok> He's a bit early, but it is Friday...
[18:36:41] <Ingar> more likely, it was one of your virtual minions
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[18:11:27] <therealaristarchus> Obviously not qualified to be a censor.
[17:49:29] <therealaristarchus> 1865 just self-doxxed? Or did janrinok encourage him?
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[15:01:20] <ted-ious> We could have lost the electrical grids on the daytime half of the globe at least.
[15:00:36] <ted-ious> If it had really hit us the second one that was much faster would have hit at the same time.
[15:00:11] <ted-ious> The first flare that hit us was mainly a slow miss.
[14:58:51] <ted-ious> I think we got lucky.
[14:58:44] <lld> just in time for the October surprise
[14:58:20] <Ingar> ah it finally arrived
[14:57:59] <systemd> ^ 03Big Solar Storm, Tech Disruption, Electric Surge, Aurora
[14:57:56] <ted-ious> https://www.youtube.com
[14:55:05] <lld> a couple of 20TB HDDs would be nice
[14:54:55] <lld> I wish I had more $$$ for HDDs
[14:53:53] <fab23> I do know people who upload stuff there
[14:53:52] <ted-ious> Mostly from their open library lending during covid I bet.
[14:53:45] <lld> its odd how easy to find pirate game ISOs on archive.org
[14:53:32] <lld> probably lots of one-offs
[14:53:17] <fab23> still 31M accounts
[14:53:09] <lld> s/use//
[14:53:06] <fab23> 👍
[14:53:01] <lld> use I doubt most archive.org users had accounts on it
[14:52:51] <ted-ious> Right I submitted an article about that.
[14:52:26] <fab23> ted-ious: I guess you are aware of the data breach they had?
[14:50:39] <ted-ious> The bad news is the whole site is down for upgrades and there's no schedule for when it will be back.
[14:50:09] <ted-ious> The good news is they didn't delete their tweets it was just a temporary problem with nitter or twitter.
[14:49:39] <systemd> ^ 03Error
[14:49:39] <ted-ious> https://nitter.privacydev.net
[14:46:06] <lld> and a mix of sulfuric acids
[14:45:54] <lld> nitric acids, probably
[14:45:38] <Ingar> mix it with nitro ?
[14:45:12] <lld> use the tallow to make explosives
[14:45:01] <Ingar> restaurants I don't know, but I fry my fries in it
[14:32:15] <ted-ious> Which restaurants still fry with beef tallow?
[14:23:22] <Ingar> fries+steak is more restaurant level (or at home like I do ;-) )
[14:22:15] <lld> I'll take all the steak and salmon, nothing else :)
[14:21:40] <Ingar> take your pick https://i.pinimg.com
[14:21:33] <Ingar> and then you get fries with fried snacks
[14:21:22] <Ingar> in belgium you go to a "fries booth"
[14:19:11] <lld> mmmh, Belgian fried chocolates
[14:12:27] <Ingar> those sticks mcd dares to call fries, are an abomination
[14:11:53] <Ingar> (coincidently, I'm having some tonight, with the traditional steak)
[14:11:40] <Ingar> get belgian fries
[14:11:36] <Ingar> forget french fries
[14:05:45] <ted-ious> Now I want french fries even tho I know how bad they are. :(
[14:05:12] <systemd> ^ 03The History of McDonald's Fries (Documentary)
[14:05:10] <ted-ious> https://www.youtube.com
[13:55:57] <janrinok> If you have access to the software you would also have access to the personal data. Not looking good for you is it?
[13:53:52] <janrinok> I suggest that you go away and start all over again.
[13:53:44] <soylent1865> dont forget units tests
[13:52:36] <soylent1865> changed password
[13:52:19] <soylent1865> janrinok thats why we have dev , pre prod, and prod ; and UAT
[13:52:08] <janrinok> You are joking aren't you? You are using a compromised IP address, you have shown the whole world your password, and you want to have access to everybody's personal data?
[13:50:51] <soylent1865> ok changing paassword
[13:50:08] <janrinok> You have just shown that to the world. Are you sure you want to be a sysadmin???
[13:49:28] <soylent1865> ok now i registered with email address
[13:49:16] <soylent1865> msg NickServ register X9mvLYti=8J2\2f5!=4k/A`X im_cne@hotmail.com
[13:47:34] <soylent1865> ok i think i am registered now
[13:47:26] <soylent1865> i have to remaster irc, i havent used it since 2006
[13:46:57] <janrinok> So are you still soylent1865 with the account? Are you still interested in being a sysadmin - because Fake1956 said that you were no longer interested.
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[13:43:24] <soylentil22> dang myh name changes again
[13:43:09] <soylentil22> i am here with the ip address again; how times is that now ?
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[13:36:51] <ted-ious> I forget how many americans voted in 2020 but it was many millions.
[13:35:54] <ted-ious> Most people seem to think the president is a real leader so they assume the elections are also real.
[13:31:26] <Ingar> do you take your prez elections serious, or do you actually see it for the circus it is ?
[13:31:08] <Ingar> maybe a general question for all you US citizens
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[12:58:04] <ted-ious> I doubt it's russia doing that.
[12:57:48] <ted-ious> I mean somebody is ddos'ing archive.org and even got them to take down all their tweets.
[12:55:59] <Ingar> why is russia still connected to the internet ?
[12:55:31] <Ingar> media plainly states it's them russians
[12:55:25] <Ingar> our govt websites related to elections have been under attack for a week now
[12:55:06] <Ingar> everything is
[12:54:29] <ted-ious> It looks like archive.org is really under attack.
[12:54:02] <systemd> ^ 03Internet Archive (@internetarchive)
[12:54:01] <ted-ious> https://nitter.privacydev.net
[12:53:49] <ted-ious> Wait that's not what I wanted.
[12:53:33] <systemd> ^ 03Sawyer Merritt (@SawyerMerritt)
[12:53:31] <ted-ious> https://nitter.privacydev.net
[12:50:10] <Ingar> for the real authentic feeling
[12:49:59] <Ingar> I recommend to eat sausage with apple sauce while listening
[12:49:12] <systemd> ^ 03Jan Smed – Instrumentale Vlaamse Volksmuziek (1979 Flemish Trad Folk from Roodebeek)
[12:49:09] <Ingar> https://www.youtube.com
[12:47:35] <Ingar> nah, we prop it up with some traditional flemish folk music
[12:38:20] <chromas> The instruments themselves will be raising an eyebrow, one blue note at a time
[12:37:45] <chromas> Intrigue, eh. There'll be a lot of key changes in the theme music
[11:39:55] <Ingar> and also the first elections that aren't mandatory... might get interesting
[11:39:26] <Ingar> *this weekend even
[11:39:16] <Ingar> we're having local electiosn here next weekend, and all the intrigue makes the US prez elections look like a bunch of toddlers playing in the sandbox
[11:37:43] <Ingar> I should have asked money for my prediction
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[10:20:32] <soylentil23> =submit https://thelogic.co
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[09:56:56] <chromas> 🎵 He's precocious, and he knows just what it takes to make a troll blush, all the boys think he's a spy, he's got...hello.jpg eyes 🎵
[09:39:56] <Ingar> yw ;)
[09:38:19] <janrinok> lol - now that is something I hadn't thought about, unsurprisingly
[09:37:53] <Ingar> also, an isospeculum, is that a speculum that spreads both holes equally at the same time?
[09:37:40] <janrinok> Ingar - I think he already knows!
[09:37:17] <chromas> China and Russia double-team supreme
[09:36:45] <Ingar> kolie: it's aristarchus
[09:36:04] <Ingar> is that legal, I mean he has business with china
[09:35:51] <Ingar> I heard Elon Musk is influencing the elections
[06:04:45] <ted-ious> I think lots of readers would get it.
[06:04:25] <ted-ious> That video should be a post but I don't think it would be accepted.
[05:59:21] <chromas> Machines can't wear prizes
[05:56:54] <ted-ious> https://envs.sh
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[03:25:46] <kolie> its tmb obviously.
[03:21:35] <kolie> we'll get him there.
[03:21:27] <kolie> Almost had a point.
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[03:21:05] <isospeculum> 8)
[03:19:57] <kolie> You have a myriad of idiolects my friend.
[03:19:25] <isospeculum> No, it was Jan's sister that was doing the golf/Hurricane tour.
[03:19:10] <kolie> But I know we've spoken prior.
[03:19:03] <kolie> I don't presume anything.
[03:18:43] <kolie> the real twist.
[03:18:38] <kolie> Janrinoks aunt.
[03:18:26] <isospeculum> And who do you presume I am, Dr Livingstone?
[03:17:51] <kolie> The more you evade and drop vaguery, the more I'm convinced it's just a plain troll like they say.
[03:17:49] <isospeculum> This is turning into a khallow debate, which means it isn't one.
[03:17:34] <kolie> For ever having hope - you have a funny way of giving details that would atleast make people understand your point.
[03:16:46] <kolie> And as someone who has given up and lost hope - you still are here.
[03:16:29] <kolie> You've made some vague overtures but didn't really get me to understand what IT is.
[03:16:13] <kolie> It may be a betrayal, what IT is, you haven't really gotten into.
[03:15:42] <kolie> Have a real discussion on that.
[03:15:40] <isospeculum> For some who have been here since Buck Feta, it is the betrayal of what SN was meant to be.
[03:15:39] <kolie> What's getting deleted, pics man, lets know what you are talking about.
[03:15:17] <kolie> You are the one misdirecting.
[03:14:57] <isospeculum> Hmm, but of course, my dear kolie! Wait, isn't that just Lokie, misspelled?
[03:14:54] <kolie> If you've lost hope - the door - you know where it is. Yet you persist.
[03:14:37] <kolie> Ok keep saying jack shit as usual. I thought you might be able to actually convey something useful.
[03:14:05] <kolie> You behave more like a russian bot farm and disruption than I've ever known, but you aren't as smooth and behind the seens as they.
[03:13:44] <isospeculum> Feel free to do you. I have lost hope that SN can be saved. Thanks for working on the refit, but if the current de facto editor-in-chief remains, the site is still dead.
[03:13:36] <kolie> You say things but you can't validate your own speech or actions, how do you expect to invalidate another?
[03:13:04] <kolie> I don't understand what you are referring to specifically. I suppose I never will because you seem to do that a lot so no one really understands it.
[03:12:37] <kolie> I don't know if he has or hasnt.
[03:12:28] <kolie> I'm not going to guess what your thinking, although I have my intuition. It wouldn't be intellectually honest to fill in the gaps of your idea with my own assumptions.
[03:12:24] <isospeculum> We'll never know, because janrinok has substituted his judgment for ours. That is the essence of censorship.
[03:11:58] <kolie> Make up my own interpretation?
[03:11:49] <kolie> Take your word for it? Assume I know what you are talking about?
[03:11:40] <kolie> So how should I respond to that?
[03:11:27] <kolie> You say something, but I can't determine what, if it is, reasoned critique.
[03:11:13] <kolie> Ok - what reasoned critique was that?
[03:11:02] <kolie> Reasoned critique gets deleted for sounding like something, maybe it is the "reason" part.
[03:10:27] <isospeculum> No, you are eluding with your evasion, accusing me a alluding.
[03:10:12] <kolie> But haven't shown that specific. I want to know what you are referring to so let me know sometime.
[03:09:59] <kolie> It seems you are eluding to something specific
[03:09:53] <kolie> I don't know what you are talking about.
[03:09:41] <isospeculum> Perhaps just get janrinok to stop with the censorship.
[03:09:38] <kolie> Get some reasoned critique deleted.
[03:09:14] <kolie> Let's discuss that which you say is deleted.
[03:09:07] <kolie> Pictures then.
[03:08:51] <isospeculum> Reasoned critique gets deleted for sounding like something, maybe it is the "reason" part.
[03:08:51] <kolie> But you know that.
[03:08:42] <kolie> Democracy doesn't mean the group rules well, free speech doesn't mean we don't say shit that valuable.
[03:08:20] <kolie> It's interesting that you say free speech but then have a problem with linked journals with people exercising their right to use free speech poorly.
[03:07:49] <kolie> Because it's easy to just say thats the way it is and foam at the mouth, then to do anything otherwise.
[03:07:45] <isospeculum> And why should SN, founded on principles of free speech, contribute to the stupidity?
[03:07:12] <kolie> Because they don't think nor do they care to.
[03:07:06] <kolie> They repeat shit, and get all worked up, and fight against each other.
[03:06:56] <kolie> People just are fucking dumb isospeculum
[03:06:48] <kolie> they repeated it from 4chan.
[03:06:30] <kolie> I understand that people in america repeat talking points they get from disinformation.
[03:06:00] <kolie> You just point shit out and expect me to fill in your points.
[03:05:58] <isospeculum> Platforming? Platforming Russian operations? Get my point, yet?
[03:05:53] <kolie> See I'm saying things I think about things.
[03:05:19] <kolie> It's not a free for all but certainly a much loser rigor on a journal.
[03:04:58] <kolie> Yes, you can go read someones opninion on the front page, under the journal box.
[03:04:43] <kolie> Was my point.
[03:04:40] <kolie> As articles.
[03:04:31] <isospeculum> Funny, right there in the "Recent journals" box.
[03:03:20] <kolie> We don't run his journals on the front page.
[03:02:29] <isospeculum> Any Runaway1956 journal would do.
[03:01:24] <kolie> disinformation, that's a tough one to dissect to, specific examples would lead to better discussion then just the accusation.
[02:58:48] <kolie> my email is pretty public.
[02:58:35] <kolie> I suppose you could clarify the bad ones, and screen shot them before they are deleted sometime.
[02:58:09] <kolie> Nothing to do with him being poor and just being literal spam.
[02:57:23] <isospeculum> Poor janrinok!
[02:57:10] <kolie> I've seen comments deleted. The kind that are literal shit posts and not much else other than trying to poke at janrinok specifically.
[02:57:08] <isospeculum> The comments that are not there.
[02:56:45] <kolie> I don't know what comments you are specifically referring to.
[02:56:28] <isospeculum> And the deleted comments, up to 3000+ janrinok recently confessed.
[02:56:20] <kolie> Because I read aljazeera, and a lot of other publications too.
[02:56:09] <kolie> I saw it on aljazeera before I saw it on soylent actually.
[02:55:23] <kolie> I read every article - doesn't mean I think they are great.
[02:55:00] <isospeculum> Even the ones that cite Bruce Willis?
[02:54:50] <kolie> Commenting ads nothing to my experience, 99% of the time.
[02:54:29] <kolie> I read the site, every day, every article
[02:54:18] <isospeculum> Always wondered why you never comment, much. You do not read the site.
[02:53:46] <kolie> People write them on SN I suppose? And?
[02:53:38] <kolie> Hurricane journals? That's a noun.
[02:53:26] <kolie> Because this means something to you, but you just don't say what it is.
[02:53:08] <kolie> I'm not going to connect points in my head you aren't making.
[02:53:00] <kolie> These are nouns, what are you thoughts on those words and what they mean to you.
[02:52:17] <isospeculum> Hurricane journals, for example, comment suppression, allowing blatant disinformation. As bad as the anti-vax stuff during COVID-19.
[02:49:31] <kolie> By all means, connect the dots, most here wouldn't even give you the time of day.
[02:48:47] <kolie> So I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about still.
[02:48:36] <kolie> I don't know what you see and what it means to you.
[02:48:08] <isospeculum> None so blind, etc, etc.
[02:48:02] <kolie> Connect the points. I can make my own judgements and views, I want you to explain yours.
[02:47:49] <kolie> Yea still not saying much.
[02:47:39] <isospeculum> Again, you must be new here.
[02:46:03] <kolie> Dropping random links, saying boo with links and no substance, and saying BUT MAHHH POSTS!!! isn't enough bro.
[02:45:33] <kolie> If you can get there, I'm all ears.
[02:44:57] <kolie> That's where you are jumping a few conclusions.
[02:44:46] <kolie> You haven't connected the fact that russia is russia, to actually get to the place where, janrinok is being fed shit from russians and acting on it.
[02:44:09] <isospeculum> And janrinok will be a useful idiot. The point.
[02:43:55] <kolie> They are fucking great at it too.
[02:43:45] <kolie> Russia going to russia.
[02:42:47] <isospeculum> https://www.justice.gov
[02:42:14] <kolie> Aren't there better forums for this, that cover those topics in greater detail, and in a more immediate and consistent format?
[02:41:36] <kolie> What's that have to do with technology or science?
[02:40:38] <isospeculum> Which is why all reporting on the Russian support of alt-right Canadaian social media has be rejected, and blocked by editors. Tools.
[02:40:25] <kolie> I can't even begin to understand what you mean by that is false equivalency. Russia as a matter of daily intervention in the western world, plays any angle possible to sow division, left, right, both sides, doesn't matter.
[02:39:15] <kolie> Russia plays both sides.
[02:38:24] <isospeculum> Not on both sides. That is the false equivalency. The right-wing is tool, and it is using SN. that is my point. Can you fix?
[02:37:44] <kolie> That's just facts.
[02:37:39] <kolie> I've been saying that since the late 90s. And it has only grown and amplified.
[02:37:17] <kolie> The fact that russia plays people with grass roots psyops, on both sides of the US political boundary, isn't new. They want to sow chaos and disruption and do fine work.
[02:37:01] <isospeculum> Yesterday: [20:06:10] <janrinok> The intelligence information says that the Russians are funding BOTH political sides to create division. Idiot.
[02:34:54] <kolie> Like, what they think about them or what they mean in a greater context of a meaningless conversation.
[02:34:37] <kolie> Most people talk about links, not just throw them in the void.
[02:34:13] <isospeculum> could've been a bare youtube link!
[02:33:39] <kolie> You paste a link and say nothing, also not further conveying a point.
[02:32:11] <isospeculum> https://edition.cnn.com
[02:28:09] <kolie> Certainly you aren't conveying your point.
[02:27:54] <kolie> You say shit but I don't find a decipherable meaning to it.
[02:27:40] <kolie> I don't think we grok the same english or conversation flow.
[02:26:26] <isospeculum> Chilling effects.
[02:22:37] <kolie> What kind of conversations are being deleted, the ones that tend to atleast?
[02:22:20] <kolie> Perhaps you are being overly broad in your classification.
[02:22:03] <kolie> I've had conversations. That qualifies as not any.
[02:21:13] <isospeculum> Any conversation on SN tends to be deleted.
[02:20:50] <kolie> I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. You are not doing any favors for me.
[02:20:28] <kolie> Did that serve to further the conversation, or just keep shaving the same yak of not saying anything.
[02:19:58] <isospeculum> are you asleep, or just new here?
[02:19:48] <kolie> Maybe if you could articulate a point instead of making laser noises we could figure out your point.
[02:19:05] <kolie> Not sure what sway sn admins have over racism, social justice, human rights, or equality. Sounds like a global issue.
[02:18:48] <isospeculum> pew-pew!!
[02:18:15] <kolie> Not quite understanding the angle here.
[02:17:46] <kolie> They can't support themselves?
[02:17:40] <kolie> Why do they need to be supported by oligarchs and sn admins?
[02:15:47] <isospeculum> Anti-fascist, not racist, equality and social justice, human rights, the basics.
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[02:14:37] <kolie> What do you mean when you say the left?
[02:14:21] <isospeculum> Oligarchs, and SN admins, tend not to support the left.
[02:11:49] <kolie> Does that engrish right?
[02:07:03] <isospeculum> Janrinok goes Full "Both Sides"!! Never saw that coming.
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[00:17:25] <kolie> o/