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[01:21:14] <Bytram> =sub From the party-time? dept. https://www.technologyreview.com
[01:21:40] <Bytram> =asub From the party-time? dept. https://www.technologyreview.com
[01:21:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03What’s Next for MDMA" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[07:35:47] <chromas> python ecosystem molesting my boxen again
[07:36:24] <chromas> updated server, now searxng won't start. "No module named 'httpx_socks'"
[07:46:22] <chromas> ohh, now I need to install fasttext, but that needs gcc12, which also wants ada, inetutils and python modules
[07:46:46] <requerdanos> welcome to "dependency paradise"
[07:47:01] <chromas> That's why flatpaks I guess
[07:47:04] <chromas> and also systemd
[07:47:24] <chromas> Distros giving up managing all the possible dependencies so they just make everything one
[07:47:49] <chromas> but kinda weird for a c compiler to need python
[07:50:17] <chromas> oh it also wants gcc-d. does that mean there's secret d code in there, like how linux is rusting?
[07:51:06] <janrinok> The C compiler used to need Perl (for regexes?).... Perhaps one of the other packages that it wants you to install needs python?
[07:52:53] <chromas> That would be silly. Perl's regexes are the slowest regexes
[07:54:58] <janrinok> lol - it was something to do with the configuration of the compiler, not the actual compiling itself...
[07:55:35] <chromas> Hopefully they're using D regexes now :D Much faster plus it can build the dfa at compile time
[07:55:55] * chromas shakes fist at Linus
[07:58:49] <chromas> usps tracking service down? I want my stamps back this instant!
[07:59:15] <janrinok> you don't seem to be having much joy with Arch recently.
[08:01:26] <chromas> well the last part is my government tax dollars not at work
[08:01:54] <chromas> technically not tax dollars I guess since the government doesn't give them money, only steals it
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[09:50:22] <chromas> "I was on tinder and matched with a cute girl, we chatted a while and then we agreed to meet, i went to the restaurant, sat down at the table and shock, it wasnt the girl who showed up but the couldflare sales team"
[10:01:04] <chromas> Today I got pulled over when commuting to work, I thought I was done before because my license has been suspended for a month for past overspeeding offenses. The officer asked me "Do you know why I pulled you over?" I knew I was done for but I replied anyways "I was going over the speed limit?" but to my surprise the officer said this:
[10:01:04] <chromas> "No, the Cloudflare Sales Team wants to talk with you."
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[12:49:56] <Runaway1956> At some point, it became official - we're flooded https://www.ksla.com
[12:49:57] <systemd> ^ 03Texarkana residents experience flooded streets due to heavy rainfall
[12:50:38] <Runaway1956> I've spent a few hours on my own property, re-opening drainage that was clogged with debris
[12:51:56] <Runaway1956> The ground is as saturated as it can possibly be, walking agross the yard is not recommended, because you will sink - to your ankles, maybe to your knees, depending on where you step.
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[13:29:59] <janrinok> Runaway, good luck - I hope that it hasn't caused too much damage
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[13:45:35] <Ingar> in southern germany, a castle wall was washed away
[13:49:42] <janrinok> That sounds serious. We have had rain here but nothing like that!
[13:49:53] <Runaway> Did the castle conform to zoning laws? How could a castle wall wash away if the zoning board was doing it's job? /sarcasm
[13:52:18] <Ingar> Runaway: in 1150 it conformed perfectly to the local zoning laws
[13:53:18] <janrinok> lol - let me guess. The only thing that has changed since then is the rent!
[13:53:32] <Ingar> well, in the meanwhile we discovered the americas
[13:53:54] <janrinok> Shh, somebody might want us to apologise!
[13:54:31] <janrinok> Runaway, are your family safe?
[13:54:45] <Bytram> Imogen: Do you know the name or the address? Map coords?
[13:55:20] <janrinok> hi Bytram - is that a random question?
[13:56:58] <Ingar> mm m castle seems to be younger... wrong Burg Falkenstein
[13:57:11] <Ingar> https://de.wikipedia.org(Flintsbach_am_Inn) (no english apparently)
[13:57:12] <systemd> ^ 03Burg Unter-Falkenstein (Flintsbach am Inn) – Wikipedia
[13:57:45] <Bytram> janrinok: I'm curious. Want to look at it on a map or google street view.
[13:58:51] <janrinok> I think you asked the wrong person - Imogen is a bot, you meant Ingar
[13:59:30] <janrinok> https://geohack.toolforge.org(Flintsbach_am_Inn)&language=de¶ms=47.715983_N_12.131597_E_dim:200_region:DE-BY_type:building&title=Burg+Unter-Falkenstein
[13:59:31] <systemd> ^ 03GeoHack - Burg Unter-Falkenstein
[14:05:43] <Ingar> Bytram: https://www.zdf.de has after and before pic
[14:05:45] <systemd> ^ 03Teile der Burgruine Falkenstein in Bayern abgerutscht
[14:06:20] <Bytram> oops!
[14:07:07] <Bytram> Ingar: thanks! Looking...
[14:12:58] <janrinok> Ingar, it certainly made a mess of that wall. I wonder if come nightfall all the hordes will attack?
[14:15:32] <Bytram> Ingar: janrinok: Was definitely very well situated to be well defended!
[14:20:02] <Runaway> Oh, yes, we all safe. I have a couple trees down, and a partial collapse of the hen house, but all are safe.
[14:20:49] <Runaway> The waterfowl, both domestic and wild, are chortling happily.
[17:46:42] <Runaway> Bytram, https://www.zdf.de
[17:46:44] <systemd> ^ 03Teile der Burgruine Falkenstein in Bayern abgerutscht
[17:47:10] <Runaway> There's a good photo, also a video that doesn't play properly for me
[17:50:31] <drussell> That link was already posted above...
[18:33:27] <janrinok> drussell, Bytram's 3 strokes have left his eyesight somewhat limited. I don't think he had noticed it.
[18:34:04] <janrinok> And perhaps Runaway just hadn't read back far enough
[18:34:14] <drussell> It was Runaway that reposted it... that's what I was saying... :)
[18:34:54] <drussell> Runaway re-posted the link that Ingar had already listed...
[18:35:11] <janrinok> Yes but I don't think Runaway had read back that far
[18:35:27] <Ingar> I'm not offended in any way
[18:35:53] <Ingar> We still love you Runaway !
[19:06:20] <Ingar> =asub From the fruity hardware dept. https://www.raspberrypi.com
[19:06:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Just a Moment..." (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:26:06] <drussell> Good Lord, is there anything that is NOT "AI" these days?!
[19:34:43] <Ingar> RaspberryAI
[19:35:21] <Ingar> drussell: the hype needs to go on
[19:35:32] <Ingar> if the bubble pops and nvidia stock crashes, it will take wall street with it
[19:36:31] <Ingar> I for one, welcome our new SkyNet overlord
[19:36:57] <Ingar> a new take on, let God sort it out!
[19:38:17] <Ingar> and reading God as a metaphor for creator might take the discussion into a more philoshical direction
[19:40:48] <Ingar> drussell: and I couldn't find an english news source for the german castle
[19:51:13] <drussell> I can't wait for the crash! The broader market needs a major correction, then I could actually invest some longer-term money, even just in some index funds.
[19:51:36] <drussell> I'm not putting a dime in with all the current nonsense everywhere, in every thing!
[19:58:46] <chromas> "Hi, I'm an American. I'm sorry."
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[20:37:02] <chromas> thousands of hour later, gcc12's still building
[20:40:49] <drussell> That sounds like back in the day, building X on a 386! :)
[20:41:35] <drussell> Actually, I don't think I ever actually built X on a 386, but a FreeBSD 'make world' took forever.
[20:41:48] <drussell> I don't think I ever actually built X from source until I was doing it on a 486.
[20:42:54] <chromas> it's one of those intel nucs...passively cooled mini pc with a 4-core celery processor
[20:43:04] <chromas> I should turn off mitigations though
[20:43:40] <chromas> didn't you have to build X in the install directory or something retarded like that?
[20:44:00] <chromas> make clean world or something
[20:45:07] <drussell> How much RAM is in it? Is it swapping like a mofuggah or something?
[20:46:13] <chromas> 16 jiggabytes; temp 74°; total cpu load is 35%
[20:46:42] <chromas> ram usage is around 1.8G
[20:47:12] <chromas> current cpu user is a command called dot
[20:47:35] <drussell> It is building with -j 4 or just single?
[20:47:40] <chromas> no idea what a graphing tool is doing running
[20:48:46] <chromas> oh you're right I never uncommented the -j flag
[20:48:56] <chromas> also didn't change -march to native
[20:49:43] <drussell> It's bad/sad when the compiler takes longer to compile than the operating system... :)
[20:50:01] <chromas> FAIL: c-c++-common/asan/bitfield-2.c -O1 output pattern test
[20:50:10] <chromas> I assume that means all the tests are failing successfully
[20:50:38] <drussell> Although, generally though, of course, to build the OS you rebuild all your compilers and tools along the way also to use those to compile the OS...
[20:50:38] <chromas> it'll probably be one of those things that fails after running for hours then
[20:50:47] <drussell> Fully "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps"
[20:51:05] <drussell> Indeed...
[20:52:10] <drussell> Things just love to fall over after compiling for a day!
[20:53:17] <chromas> at least next time I can have -j4
[20:53:40] <chromas> there's another one that's based on cpu usage instead of core count but when I tried it the computer locked up
[21:09:29] <Ingar> my record is 25hrs to compile mysql on a 486
[21:09:46] <Ingar> it only had 8MB RAM and had to swap a lot
[21:53:39] <Freeman> Computers have come a long way.
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[21:55:01] <ted-ious> Wow how long has mysql been a thing?
[21:55:31] <ted-ious> I thought 8mb on a 486 being common was well before mysql.
[22:11:30] <Runaway> Oh, I see what I did up there drussel - oh well. Ingar may have done it first, but I verified it?
[22:40:59] <drussell> LOL, not that it was a problem I was just pointing out that it wasn't additional info on the cool castle when everyone was looking for English links instead of just translatable pages. :)
[22:42:42] <drussell> At first I thought perhaps you were trying to post a translated link, or some other related site and just pasted the wrong link or something, thats all... Was just pointing it out :)
[22:45:51] <drussell> Speaking of which.... Does this work?
[22:45:52] <drussell> https://www-zdf-de.translate.goog
[22:45:53] <systemd> ^ 03Teile der Burgruine Falkenstein in Bayern abgerutscht
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