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[23:59:23] <ted-ious> I assure you I do not get intoxicated. :)
[23:58:59] <AlwaysNever> I'm afraid you are heeding a narrative full of intoxication
[23:58:55] <ted-ious> Read up on nikki haley and the deals that made that change happen.
[23:58:27] <ted-ious> No I'm afraid you're missing a huge political aspect to the history over here.
[23:57:59] <ted-ious> When gulf arab states say they won't accept delivery of planes unless they are assembled in washington state despite the headquarters and assembly locations moving to south carolina you have your answer.
[23:57:44] <AlwaysNever> those changes had a cause, and MBA's were the driving force for that change
[23:56:57] <ted-ious> But you're missing an enormous change that boeing made that is documented as causing problems.
[23:56:26] <ted-ious> I agree with you that mba's are a big part of what's wrong with business everywhere.
[23:56:19] <AlwaysNever> yeah
[23:56:02] <ted-ious> 35 years?
[23:55:59] <AlwaysNever> people have to retiree or get fired for the inertia to change
[23:55:08] <AlwaysNever> it takes time to unfold
[23:55:00] <AlwaysNever> But only when their jobs is complete, the real work takes seconde place
[23:53:47] <ted-ious> They were already taking over corporate america by 1990.
[23:53:18] <AlwaysNever> I think it is
[23:53:11] <ted-ious> I don't think that's correct.
[23:52:49] <AlwaysNever> because MBA's had not reached yet top echelon inside Boeing
[23:52:24] <ted-ious> Why wasn't it doomed 30 years ago?
[23:52:10] <AlwaysNever> MBA are only good for dealing with fictional goods
[23:51:47] <AlwaysNever> a real business controller by MBAs is doom to Boeing's fate
[23:50:53] <ted-ious> It didn't just appear out of nowhere in south carolina.
[23:50:36] <ted-ious> The mba problem just relocated from one place to another.
[23:50:04] <ted-ious> Boeing moved the headquarters across the entire country and hired a completely different work force.
[23:49:51] <AlwaysNever> MBA are the one giving orders to the builders
[23:49:50] <ted-ious> Nothing about that has changed.
[23:49:14] <AlwaysNever> profits for capital owners (shareholders) over quality of work
[23:49:02] <ted-ious> MBA's aren't the ones actually building the planes.
[23:48:23] <AlwaysNever> MBA are the worker ants for the financial economy
[23:47:51] <ted-ious> I don't think it's just a few mba's that are causing the problem.
[23:47:04] <AlwaysNever> Boeing is MBA's apotheosis.
[23:41:22] <ted-ious> Hopefully no whistleblowers died for that.
[23:40:57] <chromas> Boeing Starliner 1st crew to launch on Monday
[23:40:38] <systemd> ^ 03| EarthSky
[23:40:37] <chromas> https://earthsky.org
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[19:33:32] <aristarchus> Down shutting we are?
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[13:06:18] <fab23> AlwaysNever: I also do, there is plenty of time in the train.
[12:41:54] <AlwaysNever> fab23: fuck the wifi, enjoy the ride
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[10:45:30] <fab23> Fast Wi-Fi in train travelling south with 300km/h :)
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[09:05:05] <chromas> /nick MaxButthurt
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[08:51:04] <aristarchus> And, no. Runaway1956 was caught impersonating me, and was punished and determined to be a very naughty boy. Did not reform him, however, he is still just as much an ignorant moron.
[08:41:08] <aristarchus> chromas in a wicked mood?
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[06:41:50] <Runaway> Some shade of red, I think. Maroon, maybe.
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[06:20:54] <soylentil89> Thanks to chromas for kicking me, when I attempted to impersonate aristarchus. Am I the first one caught doing that?
[06:17:24] <soylentil89> bugs are going to overwhelm Runaway's intellect, nearly immediately.
[06:17:24] <soylentil89> drussell seems easily triggered. Yes, nostyle did say that. But these days, where whole chunks of SN can just fall off the plate, how can we know if it was voluntary or not. Shades of Athanasius Kircher, noble Soylentil of the past, who left under similar circumstances. Prove to me that this is not censorship by janrinok. And, the
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[06:13:01] <chromas> Only one I ever see is some weirdo rando off-brand
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[06:12:38] <chromas> What reputable phone book still even exists?
[02:16:57] <Runaway> But, you would think that any reputable phone directory would know that the businessman was no longer in business.
[02:16:28] <Runaway> Just got a SMS explaining he retired five years ago, he ain't doing no work for me or anyone else. He did recommend a former competitor though, for which I thanked him.
[02:15:35] <Runaway> Yellow pages suck ass. I called a businessman two days ago, most highly rated in his field, in the area. I wondered why I hadn't heard from him.
[01:20:09] <chromas> Nobody knows