#soylent | Logs for 2024-04-22

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[00:45:18] <chromas> hm
[00:45:25] <chromas> so window 0 in tmux disappeared
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[04:04:30] <soylent666> =submit https://www.rawstory.com
[04:04:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Want to Die Young? Vote Republican" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:06:08] <soylent666> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[04:06:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Opinion | Republicans Wanted a Crackdown on Israel’s Critics. Columbia Obliged." (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:09:04] <soylent666> =submit https://www.councilofnonprofits.org
[04:09:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Federal Filing Requirements for Nonprofits" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:10:59] <soylent666> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[04:11:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Microsoft is Annoying Users Again. Here's What It Could Do Instead" (30p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[08:16:12] <Ingar> s/Microsoft/Aristarchus/
[08:21:58] <chromas> Good point
[08:22:36] <chromas> He's probably trying to put ads in my start menu too
[08:45:08] <Ingar> I was looking at the dcraw source code
[08:45:11] <Ingar> God, what a mess
[08:46:01] <Ingar> I think I'll do some gardening instead
[08:47:37] <Ingar> oth I need to fix some potted cactii
[08:47:53] <Ingar> they sting even worse than the dcraw source
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[10:24:25] <soylent667> =submit https://www.newyorker.com
[10:24:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03When a Pro-Free-Speech Dean Shuts Down a Student Protest" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:25:02] <soylent667> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[10:25:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Salman Rushdie Warns Young People Against Forgetting Value of Free Speech" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:26:19] <soylent667> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[10:26:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03TikTok Says Bill to Force its Sale Would ‘Trample’ Free Speech" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[10:39:51] <fab23> so many submissions, the editors will have to work endless hours :)
[11:05:56] <Ingar> handling those submissions is like managing potted cactus
[11:06:05] <Ingar> I'll need some gloves
[11:49:56] <janrinok> ... and they have all disappeared. For my next trick, I will need a volunteer from the audience....
[12:04:46] * Ingar volunteers chromas
[12:10:37] <Ingar> unless it's the trick where you saw a box in two, then I volunteer ari
[12:11:03] <janrinok> lol
[12:11:12] <Ingar> I wouldn't trust a dissapearance trick
[12:11:17] <Ingar> who knows where he'd turn up
[12:12:33] <janrinok> he will be demanding that someone is banned again for such 'death-threats'. TMIAI (the-man-is-an-idiot)
[12:44:56] <janrinok> =cite https://www.nature.com
[12:44:57] <systemd> Journal Reference: Peplow, Mark. Meet ‘goldene’: this gilded cousin of graphene is also one atom thick, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-024-01118-0">10.1038/d41586-024-01118-0</a>)
[13:02:46] <Ingar> janrinok: awing a box in two is perfectly legal!
[13:02:49] <Ingar> *sawing
[13:03:17] <Ingar> I jsut separated some siamese cactii, if it where mandragora, they'd be screaming
[13:03:43] <Ingar> but, being cactii, the one screaming is YOU
[13:05:50] <janrinok> :)
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[15:22:47] <drussell> Has anyone prodded whoever is actuallyt able to update the LE certificate?
[15:24:21] <drussell> There's still almost two weeks left, but that came up pretty quickly back in February.
[15:31:33] <janrinok> I have prodded audioguy - but that doesn't always resolve the situation. I will prod him again....
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[16:28:18] <chromas> heh dumb bot
[16:28:56] <chromas> that walesonline sub ended up just a list of related stories, so the bot's just turning sn into a link farm
[16:30:28] <chromas> for reasons unknown, /submit.pl isn't in robots.txt
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[18:50:25] <aristarchus> Once again, SN asserts that it does not want submissions! The spiral continues.
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[19:14:31] <drussell> :s/want/want any pointless, completely inappropriate and irrelevant /
[19:15:12] <drussell> Those should be posted somewhere like twitter. 🙄
[19:16:06] <drussell> FTFY.
[19:17:24] <drussell> (sorry for the troll food)
[19:17:25] <drussell> Luckily it has poison in it.
[19:58:18] <fab23> is Twitter still a thing? There was something to rewrite all URLs from *twitter.com to x.com inclucing netflitwitter.com to netflix.com :)
[20:03:24] <drussell> Anyone who calls it X should be fired from a cannon into a volcano. If their name is Mr. Musk, they should be launched on a rocket into the sun for relentlessly trying to name something on the internet such a ridiculous name as X.
[20:03:44] <drussell> What a schmuck.
[20:04:41] <fab23> it is 𝕏 and not X :)
[20:06:06] <ted-ious> Just keep calling it twitter and he will be very angry. :)
[20:06:50] <drussell> He probably does too much ketemine to actually get angry anymore...
[20:06:54] <fab23> Elmo 𝕏. Murks :)
[20:07:38] <drussell> They all just show as mojibake here in HexChat... :)
[20:08:19] <drussell> Looking to see what emoji things were by pulling it up in the logs is how I got tricked into reading something posted by ari. 🙄
[20:08:45] <fab23> HexChat had a charset which automatically could recognize iso-latin-1 and utf-8
[20:13:11] <drussell> Yeah, I probably just don't have any of {Arial Unicode MS,Segoe UI Emoji,Lucida Sans Unicode,Meiryo,Symbola,Unifont} installed on this machine...
[20:13:17] <fab23> but I guess you need to have a proper font so the emojis will work
[20:13:39] <drussell> It works fine when I'm on FreeBSD instead of Windows7 like I'm booted to now on this laptop.
[20:14:20] <drussell> The default of "consolas" or whatever just doesn't have the latest, pointless emoji crap bloated into it.
[20:14:58] <drussell> Whatever Firefox is rendering in has them by default, or has some alternative I guess, since I can see them if I pull up the logs in FF.
[20:15:15] <drussell> I really just don't care enough to bother to try to fix something since it doesn't really bother me... haha
[20:15:17] <fab23> it also works fine so far from macOS in iTerm2 through ssh/tmux in weechat on FreeBSD :)
[20:15:59] <fab23> too much magic I guess
[20:16:30] <drussell> If you need more than 256 characters in a "character set" you're probably doing it wrong :)
[20:19:40] * fab23 is used to type on a US keyboard layout, but still able to type the typical German umlauts like ä ö and ü. :)
[20:20:57] <fab23> cu tomorrow, for me its the end of the online day
[20:51:54] <drussell> sure, ALT-228, ALT-246 and ALT-252 on the numeric pad... :)
[20:55:27] <drussell> or maybe ALT-132 and ALT-148 or something... Those sound too high from the chart I just looked at...
[20:56:06] <requerdanos> I dunno about this ALT stuff, I just use a US International keyboard layout: N
[20:56:26] <requerdanos> Nö pröblëms
[20:56:44] <drussell> I'm pretty sure 130 was the e with an accent aigu, I used to type that one all the time
[20:57:09] <drussell> My friend's name was Koré
[20:57:17] <requerdanos> I am not sure I have the option to do the alt key characters quite the same, as I use Debian XFCE
[21:00:55] <requerdanos> I can confirm that Alt+numbers does not yield for me interesting characters.
[21:14:39] <drussell> It might work on a console by default, but probably as soon as you're in X it will use different keyboard input methods that no longer resemble an IBM PC running DOS as the standard for character entry
[21:15:55] <requerdanos> hmm, yep, on a text console I do get characters that pop up with Alt+numbers
[21:16:54] <drussell> In XFCE it may default to actually working with the ALT- as a shortcut, but you probably have to type a full 4 digit unicode character code
[21:17:30] <drussell> is an ALT-131 a é on the console?
[21:17:46] <requerdanos> no, that gives me a diamond
[21:17:55] <drussell> That's the old-school IBM-PC character set pagecode mapping...
[21:17:59] <ted-ious> ı
[21:18:01] <ted-ious> Chosen: ı U+131 Latin small letter dotless i
[21:18:01] <drussell> Hmmm..
[21:18:15] <drussell> Different mapping then... Not surprising.
[21:18:40] <drussell> What about ALT-233?
[21:18:44] <drussell> Does that give an é
[21:19:24] <requerdanos> Alt-233 is é
[21:20:18] <drussell> Yeah, so that is the same as Windows codepage 1252 / ISO Latin-1
[21:20:29] <drussell> Which is different than the original IBM-PC codepage
[21:20:34] <requerdanos> Interesting.
[21:20:59] <drussell> 437? I think the original is codepage 437
[21:21:27] <drussell> Yes... https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:21:27] <systemd> ^ 03Code page 437 - Wikipedia
[21:21:43] <requerdanos> I distantly remember code pages.
[21:22:22] <drussell> You're running in https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:22:22] <systemd> ^ 03Windows-1252 - Wikipedia
[21:22:44] <chromas> In Windows you got the ASCII codes with the digits and Unicode with four
[21:23:01] <chromas> So you might need to pad it with zeros
[21:24:06] <chromas> Linux also supports the alt codes but X, or at least kde/qt programs don't for some reason
[21:26:27] <requerdanos> seems like it might be a handy shortcut feature to have.
[21:27:16] <requerdanos> I type what I can with the kéýbóárd layouts, and copy+paste any other characters I need.
[21:27:16] <chromas> Gtk has the ctrl-shift-u but I don't think qt has anything
[21:28:00] <chromas> You can set a key in keyboard settings to act as a Compose key
[21:29:03] <chromas> <compose>-u-" gives you ü
[21:29:41] <drussell> KCharSelect ?
[21:29:45] <requerdanos> makes sense
[21:32:10] <chromas> Kcharselect is pretty handy
[21:32:36] <chromas> Also win-. If you want emoji glyphs
[21:32:55] <requerdanos> retardographs? I just copy and paste those as needed.
[21:33:26] <drussell> Yeah, the same idea as the Windows charmap.exe utility.
[21:33:31] <chromas> 💩
[21:33:45] <drussell> Lol... retardographs. I'll have to remember that.
[21:34:02] <chromas> I prefer retardograms myself