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[04:15:35] <aristarchus> They're doing it again! Hordes of aristarchus impersonators are besieging SN! Be warned, and be forearmed, with a bear arm, as gaarennteed by the Constitution of the United Kingdumb.
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[07:17:19] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:17:20] <systemd> ^ 03How to Write an Email (90s Tutorial)
[07:17:39] <chromas> Why do 90s 'parodies' always look like the 80s?
[07:51:30] <janrinok> it's and age thing... Most of them didn't see the 80s.
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[08:54:15] <chromas> finally fixed ducksearch
[08:54:33] <chromas> =ddg soylent news
[08:54:34] <systemd> https://soylentnews.org SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[08:54:36] <janrinok> what need fixing?
[08:54:46] <janrinok> needed*
[08:55:00] <chromas> they added a third-level domain
[08:55:06] <chromas> https://html.duckduckgo.com
[08:55:06] <systemd> ^ 03DuckDuckGo
[08:55:43] <chromas> I didn't notice that part and forgot you need the html part to get results in html instead of js, so I was changing other stuff that kept not fixing it
[08:57:01] <janrinok> ah, inhuman error
[08:58:07] <chromas> they have an api but if I IIRC correctly it omits most of the results
[08:59:46] <chromas> yeah they only have Instant Answer results (which is probably fine here anyhow)
[09:00:38] <chromas> we need to set up our own search engine just for getting results into irc
[09:00:42] <chromas> Soygle
[09:02:07] <janrinok> didn't we have a script that used to do that for us?
[09:02:22] <Ingar> binglent
[09:03:13] <janrinok> I seem to remember a bot that had various SE options
[09:04:11] <chromas> =b horse
[09:04:18] <janrinok> perhaps I am dreaming
[09:04:29] <Ingar> =ddg horse staple
[09:04:30] <systemd> https://www.correcthorsebatterystaple.net Correct Horse Battery Staple | Generate Secure Memorable Passwords
[09:04:34] <janrinok> is the next word 'staple'
[09:04:40] <janrinok> ninja'd
[09:05:10] <chromas> =w horse staple
[09:05:11] <systemd> staple of the group's discography and one of their most popular. America's self-titled debut album was released initially in Europe, without "A Horse - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:05:12] <Ingar> soon everyone will think I'm an AI
[09:05:49] <janrinok> are you trying to persuade us that you are NOT a bot?
[09:05:56] <chromas> maybe wikipedia search needs an update too
[09:06:00] <janrinok> nice try, Ingar !
[09:06:00] <chromas> =w slashdot
[09:06:01] <systemd> Slashdot (sometimes abbreviated as /.) is a social news website that originally billed itself as "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters". It features news - https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:06:36] <chromas> In Russia, AI think everyone you!
[09:09:14] <chromas> =y is ingar a bot
[09:09:17] <systemd> Search failed: Couldn't connect to server on handle 62CB6EA332C0
[09:10:21] <chromas> perhaps I should set up a new yacy instance. does anyone remember that?
[09:12:02] <janrinok> nope
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[10:29:40] <janrinok> hi ari
[10:34:10] <soylentil81> Who?
[10:35:31] <soylentil81> You have the wrong soylentil staple.
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[10:36:34] <janrinok> for a minute I thought that was an owl on IRC...
[10:36:55] <chromas> What a dork. There are no soy "staples" who wouldn't know the name
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[10:45:57] <soylentil8> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[10:45:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03USC Student's Graduation Speech Cancelled in Israel-Gaza Hate Row" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:46:45] <soylentil8> =submit https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[10:46:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Google Employees Arrested After Protesting Against Tech Giant's Work With Israel" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:52:29] <soylentil8> =submit
[10:52:29] <systemd> Submit one or more links plus some text if you want
[10:52:37] <soylentil8> =submit https://www.ign.com
[10:52:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Fallout TV Show Sparks Lucy XP Level Debate, Fallout Shelter Gives Us SPECIAL Stats - IGN" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:05:56] <soylentil8> =submit https://countercurrents.org
[11:05:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Saul Bellow - Literature and Racism or at War With the 60s" (164p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:34:55] <drussell> None of those are even remotely appropriate for SN. Nice spamblast, there Ari. <roll eyes>
[11:43:09] <Ingar> janrinok: can't you disable systemd submit if ari joins ?
[15:05:02] <fab23> now it really gets bad, we should have burned the snowman on Monday! "Risk of extensive slipperiness - City of Zürich - Moderate danger - 18. April 02:00 - 10:00 - due to packed snow"
[15:10:50] <janrinok> I told you to go down there with a box of matches but, oh no, you let yourself be stopped by somebody official....
[15:11:40] <fab23> :)
[15:14:03] <fab23> the where just from some security company, not even offical police or such, but I guess they are stronger then I am :)
[15:14:10] <janrinok> time to get the ski's back out again?
[15:15:35] <fab23> I don't think it will be proper snow, just icy I guess.
[15:18:21] <inz> time to get the skates back out again
[15:19:12] <fab23> when a look at all the forcasts, it could as well be a precaution alert, tempertures will not go below 0˚C
[15:19:58] <fab23> it will probably be just almost-snow instead of rain, so it will be a little messy on the road :)
[15:25:40] <janrinok> we call that slush
[15:26:01] <janrinok> It can sometimes be more slippery than snow
[15:32:57] <fab23> not sure what language you get, but can be switched to EN on top right: https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch
[15:32:59] <systemd> ^ 03Homepage - MeteoSwiss ( https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch )
[15:33:50] <fab23> ah, I just realized how they are doing tha language switch, with different hostnames in the corresponding language :)
[15:34:17] <fab23> e.g meteoschweiz instead of meteoswiss :)
[15:39:54] <janrinok> thanks for those maps - it is still very cold in the mountains. Jungfrau is -22
[15:40:26] <inz> That's really young
[15:40:26] <fab23> that is ~3000m up :)
[15:40:43] <janrinok> i realise that!
[15:41:07] <janrinok> I assume that the skiiing is good for a few more weeks yet
[15:42:26] <fab23> https://www.jungfrau.ch
[15:42:27] <systemd> ^ 03Jungfraujoch – Top of Europe
[15:44:29] <fab23> the only doable way up there is with the train, but last part is mostly in tunnels.
[15:46:34] <fab23> https://www.youtube.com
[15:46:35] <systemd> ^ 03🇨🇭Incredible! Riding the Europe's Highest Railway Jungfraubahn
[16:29:30] <Ingar> got that video running fullscreen on my second monitor
[16:29:39] <Ingar> it's like working on a laptop on the train!
[16:35:24] <Ingar> need to process a thousand moon images
[16:42:36] <fab23> :)
[16:43:29] <fab23> they should have gone up there on another day, it was foggy.
[16:48:30] <fab23> Ingar: if you need, there are longer vids like https://www.youtube.com :)
[16:48:31] <systemd> ^ 03Jungfraujoch ❄️ Top of Europe🇨🇭 Switzerland. Most Beautiful Places Switzerland: Wengen, EigerGlacier
[16:54:05] <Ingar> I've ben in Switzerland twice, wouldn't mind returning there one day
[17:00:31] <fab23> for the chocolate and cheese? :)
[17:01:34] <Ingar> I remember the large selection of Belgian beers in the supermarket
[17:01:41] <Ingar> but we did stock on Toblerone
[17:02:11] <fab23> not sure if that still is Swiss or not
[17:02:28] <Ingar> don't worry, I think Belgian chocolate is suisse
[17:02:38] <Ingar> *Swiss
[17:02:57] <fab23> I guess the company got sold to some international corporation
[17:03:14] <Ingar> what company isn't these days
[17:03:23] <fab23> :(
[17:04:49] <Ingar> went on family vacation there, Rhone valley. as I recall, not far from Sierre
[17:04:56] <Ingar> nice area
[17:05:48] <fab23> where they speak their own dialect nobody else understands
[17:07:17] <Ingar> mostly french, and a funny german some km further
[17:08:22] <fab23> yes french and that funny german was probably their local dialect. Usually all the SwissGerman dialects are understandable, but the one from Wallis is not.
[17:09:04] <Ingar> sigh, damn image preprocess not doing what I want it do do
[17:13:01] <janrinok> technology is like that. Have you tried switching it off and back on again? Hitting with something big and heavy?
[17:13:14] <Ingar> that's the next step
[17:13:23] <Ingar> convert all source files from DNG to TIFF and see what happens
[17:13:58] <Ingar> it's a wonderful example of XKCD's standards paradigm
[17:15:05] <janrinok> we need another standard!
[17:15:12] <Ingar> it's called FITS
[17:15:45] <janrinok> I don't know the DNG format though
[17:16:15] <Ingar> apparently, Adobe Digital Negative
[17:16:16] <chromas> it's Adobe's answer to the quadrillions of different raw formats, based on tiff
[17:16:23] <Ingar> I had never heard of either entil recently
[17:16:32] <janrinok> Yeah, I've just looked it up too
[17:16:55] <janrinok> TIFF I know about - but haven't seen it being used for many years
[17:17:04] <Ingar> I moved my rasbery pi from armv7 to aarch64, and the new version of the camera tools output DNG as raw format
[17:17:56] <Ingar> janrinok: it's widely supportee so rather convenient
[17:18:34] <chromas> well at least they're using a standard, unlike some people *cough*panasonic*cough*canon*ough*
[17:18:36] <Ingar> nake a PNG with a 16bit depth and 99% of image viewing software cant even handle it properly
[17:18:49] <janrinok> Maybe so, but I haven't noticed it. Mind you, I stopped most of my photography about 15-20 years ago. Still have all the kit.
[17:19:15] <Ingar> chromas: the previous version of the camera tools added meta data to the JPEG I had to extract with a hacked verson of dcraw
[17:19:21] <Ingar> obscure++
[17:20:07] <Ingar> janrinok: get a startracker and make some sky pics ;)
[17:20:08] <chromas> a lot of software just reads the embedded jpeg instead of the raw datums
[17:20:31] <janrinok> I have been considering it...
[17:20:38] <chromas> doo it
[17:21:18] <chromas> before the sky is too stuffed with satellites and smoke to see out anymore
[17:22:40] <janrinok> Well the number of clear skies here, even in summer, mean it would not be something that I could do whenever i wanted. Being close to the Atlantic coast with the prevailing wind come straight at me we do see a lot of cloud.
[17:23:26] <chromas> you can do some rad cloud timeslaps
[17:23:35] <Ingar> janrinok: that's part of it ofc
[17:23:39] <chromas> like slapping bass, but moreso
[17:23:48] <Ingar> I had an unexpected few hours of clear sky yesterday
[17:23:59] <Ingar> so I was outside most of the evening :)
[17:25:13] <Ingar> takes me 30-60 minutes to set up
[17:25:14] <fab23> hm, there is a thunderstorm now https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch
[17:25:15] <systemd> ^ 03Precipitation - MeteoSwiss
[17:25:30] <Ingar> fab23: april has been awful so far
[17:25:40] <Ingar> e.g. last week 20C
[17:25:47] <Ingar> today more like 8C
[17:25:48] <janrinok> you are not helping Swiss tourism with all these terrible weather reports, fab23!
[17:25:53] <fab23> Ingar: yes, a few day agos it was even 25+˚C
[17:26:24] <fab23> janrinok: you know, its more pleasant without the tourists :)
[17:27:33] <janrinok> same here :)
[17:28:44] <fab23> incredible https://xkcd.com :)
[17:28:45] <systemd> ^ 03xkcd: Machine ( https://xkcd.com )
[17:29:03] <fab23> properly sorted
[17:29:04] <janrinok> but another month or two and they will be blocking up the roads, and wandering round the shops getting in the way of people who have lives to live, but they do bring in the money so we don't actually frighten them away - we just snarl behind their backs
[17:29:37] <Ingar> convert file.dnf file.tif
[17:29:49] <Ingar> converts a thumbnail, apparently :D
[17:30:02] <Ingar> *convert file.dng file.tif
[17:53:08] <Ingar> fail
[17:53:59] <fab23> Ingar: Imagemagick does all convert to pbm first, maybe you find something doing it directly.
[17:54:28] <Ingar> the issue is they don't get properly debayered
[17:55:30] <fab23> oh, I have no idea about such things :)
[17:57:33] <fab23> A few years ago I had to create scripts to resize (downscale) to defined max width or height, but keep aspect :)
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[19:08:47] <Ingar> it's funky stuff, I say
[19:09:15] <fab23> back in the Amiga days it was called netpbm :)
[19:24:42] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
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[19:25:03] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[19:25:04] <systemd> ^ 03How To Make A CPU
[19:26:29] <Ingar> https://www.english-heritage.org.uk
[19:26:30] <systemd> ^ 03Stonehenge
[19:37:22] <fab23> https://www.goodtechthings.com
[19:37:23] <systemd> ^ 03Open-Source Threats
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