#soylent | Logs for 2023-10-29

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[07:51:37] <aaristarchus> Never would've pegged kolie as an ammosexual!  Just goes to show, . . .
[07:54:28] <aaristarchus> Of course, never thought that janrinok would invite aristarchus back into the fold.   Amazing times we live in.  Creationist young earthers holding the speakership of the House, Maniacs killing all kinds of bowlers.
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[08:08:59] <AzumaHazuki> what
[08:11:20] <aristarchus>  =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[08:11:32] <aristarchus> What what?
[08:12:14] <aristarchus> Beware misspelled nicks.
[08:14:23] <aristarchus> And, my subs do not go through.  Thanks, chromas, you racist bastard!
[08:22:08] <aristarchus> janrinok sent a super secret offer to aristarchus, allowing him to return, as long as he hid,  and never downmodded Runaway, or khallow, or VLM, of daffodildoody.   Guess how that went?
[08:22:59] <AzumaHazuki> [citation needed]
[08:25:00] <aristarchus> I believe that aristarchus is going to post the entire offer, but janrinok has already said he has violated the super secret squirrel clause, so the entire thing is moot.   Most stuff takes place in the Poll thread, on SN, these days, since all else of censored heavily.
[08:30:17] <aristarchus> https://soylentnews.org
[08:31:39] <AzumaHazuki> this whole thing is a clusterfuck. SN should just die with what little dignity it has left
[08:34:22] <aristarchus> As things stand right now, Ncommander could still pull the plug, instead of handing it over to the nascent corporation of the Goobernance Committee.  I used to thing kolie was fresh air, but not so much, now.
[08:34:53] <AzumaHazuki> i wish he would
[08:35:08] <AzumaHazuki> honestly i don't even know what the fuck i'm doing here any longer
[08:35:28] <aristarchus> I have been missing your insightful comments!
[08:36:06] <AzumaHazuki> it's not worth it. "libertarians" irreversibly shit up wherever they infest and the staff is too worthless to do anything about it
[08:36:29] <AzumaHazuki> no one ever figured out who does the laundry and handles sanitation in Galt's Gulch, did you notice?
[08:36:42] <janrinok> Thanks, your vote of confidence in our efforts has been noted. Have a nice day :)
[08:36:55] <chromas> Did you say take out the trash?
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[08:37:17] <AzumaHazuki> you people could have fixed this years ago. it's too late now
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[08:38:10] <chromas> AzumaHazuki: can't fix retardation though
[08:38:32] <airistarchus> rude, chromass!   i Was just asking if the interlocutor had seen the Angry Flower cartoon about Galt's Gulch.
[08:39:02] <chromas> anyhow, nonsense aside, any new theme update, AzumaHazuki?
[08:39:18] <AzumaHazuki> "libertarians" are parasites. they want the benefits of society without paying the dues. fuck every last one of them
[08:39:47] <AzumaHazuki> the worst part is they actually think they're clever. or original. or actually engaging with reality
[08:40:11] <airistarchus> Chromas is more 3% than liberatariantard, anyway.
[08:40:32] <AzumaHazuki> they both burn just as well
[08:41:04] <airistarchus> =sub https://www.nbcnews.com
[08:41:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Meet the 13-year-old West Virginian Suing to Join Her School's Track Team" (35p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:41:50] <AzumaHazuki> there's a simple solution to this trans athlete thing: test everyone for testosterone levels, lean vs fat mass, weight class, and so on. that's more important for sport performance right?
[08:42:22] <airistarchus> Actual fair competition?  Not likely!
[08:42:44] <AzumaHazuki> well...i really only know about FtM, not the other way around. but that sounds reasonable right?
[08:43:00] <janrinok> You could probably turn that into a decent submission if you feel that strongly about it.
[08:43:39] <AzumaHazuki> why bother? we know the real motivation here: haters gonna hate. they happen to have one-tenth of a point in this case, is all
[08:43:41] <airistarchus> Can you, as one, define what "woman" is, to the satisfaction of our right-wing wacos?
[08:44:06] <airistarchus> Oh, shit, she gets it!
[08:45:17] <AzumaHazuki> i'm trying really hard to be evenhanded here. i was getting dangerously TERF-adjacent in early college and probably still have a few brainworms to root out on that score
[08:45:39] <AzumaHazuki> most of my experiences with MtF people have *not* been pleasant. but that doesn't change reality
[08:46:03] <janrinok> so you think "it is not worth it? [L]ibertarians" irreversibly shit up wherever they infest" look up the page a few lines .....
[08:46:11] <janrinok> That is why they will never change
[08:46:39] <AzumaHazuki> they are incapable of changing. libertarianism is a "basilist," a pernicious memeplex that sneaks in through the eyes and flays the mind
[08:46:40] <janrinok> Nobody ever tries to convince them otherwise
[08:47:00] <airistarchus> Expect my counter offer in a few days, jan.   I will allow you to continue on SoylentNews, under certain restrictions.
[08:47:21] <janrinok> OK - but I have got to go and do a bit of shopping....
[08:47:22] <AzumaHazuki> short of force-dosing them with MDMA, I have no idea what would work, and that's unethical as hell
[08:47:39] <janrinok> sounds interesting though....
[08:48:01] <AzumaHazuki> you heard about this one, right? a self-professed libertarian changed his entire outlook after a dose of MDMA because for the first time it allowed him to see other humans AS human
[08:48:18] <airistarchus> Saw that.  Interesting.
[08:48:59] <AzumaHazuki> the corollary to that, of course, is that to really hold a libertarian ideology, you need to at least implicitly see everyone else as inhuman or at least inferior to you
[08:49:09] <AzumaHazuki> that's the central conceit of libertarianism and conservatism really
[08:49:25] <AzumaHazuki> all the high-minded talk about economics is a flimsy smokescreen
[08:50:34] <airistarchus> Well, exteriour to you, at least.  It is called "Atomistic Individualism".
[08:53:17] <AzumaHazuki> it's also completely incompatible with reality at every level from then quantum to the chemical to the biological to the social
[08:53:28] <AzumaHazuki> we don't work tha way. these are broken, diseased individuals
[08:54:04] <AzumaHazuki> and that itself is fine, but this is a massive case of having the hernia and making everyone else wear the fuckin' truss
[08:57:33] <airistarchus> My mentor in economics pointed out that the English never actually has a feudalistic economy, which allowed the enclosure movements and an urban poor pool of labor.  But even before that, there was a system of fostering, where you would send your kids to work for others, because no one wants to beat their own children.
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[16:09:49] <Runaway1956> Huh - I think some humans might be more human than others. with progressives at the bottom of the scale?
[16:10:07] <Runaway1956> Interesting that 'Zumi would bring that up.
[16:11:55] <janrinok> yeah
[16:19:32] <ted-ious> I used to think that progressive meant progress which is good.
[16:20:36] <ted-ious> After seeing just how vile and spiteful they can be to anyone somebody who deviates slightly from their hive mind I no longer think they deserve that reputation.
[16:22:32] <janrinok> I think that all the terms are being misused/abused from their original meanings. And it isn't just a US thing, but there it where I see/read it most
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[22:39:33] <progo> the backlog would be more interesting to read from last night if there was zero name-calling
[22:39:37] <progo> :^b
[23:03:19] <Bytram> =sub https://thehill.com
[23:03:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Biden Administration Looks to Ban Menthol Cigarettes: ‘There’s No Going Back’" (33p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:29:36] <inz> Those candy cancer canes were banned in 2020 here