#soylent | Logs for 2023-07-25
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[00:23:31] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.extremetech.com
[00:24:52] <aristarchus> Clever! chromas has blocked soylentils from submitting subs. July 31 is the new June 30?
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[00:34:45] <chromas> From the fart dept.
[00:41:47] <chromas> Maybe the bot should emit a poo glyph when he submits
[00:56:09] <ted-ious> =submit https://www.extremetech.com planned-obsolescence dept.
[00:56:10] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Just a Moment..." (2p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:56:27] <ted-ious> Oh well. :)
[00:56:55] <ted-ious> I thought it would be funny for him to see that on the front page without his name on it.
[00:59:32] <ted-ious> It's actually a good story to share.
[00:59:50] <ted-ious> People need to know about self-destructing purchases.
[01:11:07] <chromas> Well it's the rare, almost unheard of, instance of a worthwhile sub from ari
[01:13:24] <chromas> I don't see any mention of what actually makes them expire
[01:24:38] <Bytram> chromas: Maybe... a deadline? :^)
[01:27:01] <kolie> o/
[01:52:29] <cmn32480> chromas: They are baking in death dates to the software for planned obsolescence.
[01:52:42] <cmn32480> from the article: - Google told OUSD the baked-in death dates are necessary for security and compatibility purposes. As Google continues to iterate on its Chromebook software, older devices supposedly can’t handle the updates. But this illustrates a particularly contentious issue in modern technology: planned obsolescence.
[01:53:23] <chromas> Yeah but is it just in Chrome-OS itself? Can they just drop ubuntu or something on it?
[01:53:48] <cmn32480> NFI if it is built into the hardware or just the software.
[01:53:49] <chromas> Or maybe it's in the firmware. Are they actually disabling them or just disallowing updates?
[01:54:16] <chromas> I was hoping they'd mention that in the article
[01:54:20] <chromas> oops, I mean tfa
[01:54:23] <cmn32480> Doesn't say but I'm assuming no updates
[01:54:56] <chromas> heh, https://www.msn.com
[01:54:56] <systemd> ^ 03MSN
[01:55:22] <chromas> apparently there are sales on chromebooks about to expire
[01:55:39] <chromas> but if you can drop something else in and carry on then it is a good deal
[01:58:41] <chromas> from this ancient article, it looks like it's just updates https://www.pcworld.com
[01:58:41] <systemd> ^ 03Is this Chromebook about to die? Why Google’s expiration dates matter
[01:59:27] <chromas> chromeos isn't really pubically available I guess but there're probably cyanogenmod-like projects to make it available maybe
[02:01:51] <chromas> hm, yeah, chromiumos is available. it's like chromium browers is to chrome
[02:03:02] <chromas> unless google's changed something recently, there's no real reason to toss all those lappies; just put something else on and keep truckin'
[02:14:18] <ted-ious> I wouldn't put it past google to put something in the firmware to die after a certain date.
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[02:34:05] <progo> https://noagendasocial.com today I learned a new occupation name: paranormal influencer
[02:34:06] <systemd> ^ 03progo suckin' in soot in NYC (@progo@noagendasocial.com)
[02:35:00] <progo> warning: javascript story page. stupid social media
[03:11:21] <chromas> https://www.tomshardware.com
[03:11:23] <systemd> ^ 03AMD 'Zenbleed' Bug Leaks Data From Ryzen, EPYC CPUs: Most Patches Coming Q4 (Updated)
[03:13:01] <progo> where did we go wrong?
[03:14:02] <progo> ARM architecture had similar issues when we discovered the specter/meltdown exploits, right?
[03:36:12] <chromas> probably. I don't remember anyone really talking about it though
[03:36:45] <chromas> all the software mitigations is probably why PCs got slower
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[06:27:12] <soylentil51> Last thing you want, is a sub with aristarchus' nick on it, 'cause that might suggest that the whole banning of aristarchus was contrived and illegal, and that the complicit actors are liable.
[06:29:26] <janrinok> Your sub is in the queue isn't it?
[06:38:26] <soylentil51> Soylent51 has no sub in the queue. Why do you ask?
[06:39:30] <soylentil51> Discussion here seemed to be about the chromebook sub. Who submitted that?
[06:42:09] <janrinok> I am assuming that you used a different name to submit it, or are you trying to make a different point?
[06:42:41] <janrinok> Why are you linking the chromebook sub to aristarchus?
[06:43:39] <janrinok> It seems to have been submitted by AC - I am assuming that is you?
[06:50:05] <soylentil51> Assume away, old man. Assuming Makes an Ass our of You and ME, or something. See chromas comment, above. Do try and keep up.
[06:51:54] <janrinok> I am way ahead of you, it seems.
[06:52:32] <soylentil51> [01:11:07] <chromas> Well it's the rare, almost unheard of, instance of a worthwhile sub from ari
[06:56:49] <janrinok> Well, I don't know where you, or aristarchus, tried to submit it. but it seems that you are just trying to regurgitate old stuff in a hope that somebody still cares. aristarchus is banned. Perhaps he has finally left the site.
[06:58:02] <janrinok> However, the important thing is the story can be discussed - it doesn't really matter if it get your name or aristarchus' name on it. Neither of you can get any karma for your efforts if you are submitting using either of those names.
[06:58:09] <soylentil51> Nobody cares about your crusade, janrinok. We have not heard from anyone important for some time, and the cessation of communications can only mean one thing.
[06:59:18] <janrinok> Who is the 'we' that you are referring to? Who do you think are the 'important' people? Enquiring minds want to know.
[07:00:04] <soylentil51> This is why you fail.
[07:00:09] <janrinok> at what?
[07:00:18] <soylentil51> Leadership.
[07:00:56] <janrinok> If you cannot even answer simple questions, then how can anyone help you resolve your issues?
[07:01:39] <janrinok> bye
[07:02:11] <soylentil51> You are the issue, janrinok, and you cannot even see it.
[07:02:29] <chromas> Speaking of leadership
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[07:04:00] <aristarchus> Kick me, chromas! You censorious bastard!
[07:05:18] <aristarchus> I was just following along, and saw what you did to protect janrinok. Uncalled for. Bad form.
[07:13:18] <janrinok> Oh, what a surprise!
[07:14:11] <janrinok> "at the whole banning of aristarchus was contrived and illegal". Which laws have been broken? What makes it 'illegal'?
[07:19:09] <aristarchus> As has been pointed out, you are too easily trolled, my dear janrinok. Comes of a military training, and the inability to accept a lack of control. You cannot make this work. NCommander and kolie will have to just shut down SoylentNews, because of you. We are well on the way? Staff is locked out? Khallow cannot access his
[07:19:09] <aristarchus> history of libertardian trolling? I can no longer sub anything? These are all signs of the end, the ultimate demise of a great Buckfeta project. It's on you, janrinok.
[07:23:06] <aristarchus> BTW, I am not the real aristarchus. The original aristarchus retired some years ago, and is living quite well in Patagonia. You see, it is the name that is the essential thing, to inspire the proper fear into chromas and janrinok.
[07:30:58] <aristarchus> kolie says he wants to talk, be he is never here. What's up with that?
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[09:31:37] <SteveBandon> =submit https://www.nbcnews.com
[09:31:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Top Arkansas Psychiatrist Accused of Falsely Imprisoning Patients and Medicaid Fraud" (62p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:33:26] <SteveBandon> =submit https://www.thedailybeast.com
[09:33:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03‘Barbie’ Seems to Have Destroyed Ben Shapiro" (41p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[09:57:38] <janrinok> gosh, I wonder who that was....
[11:48:00] <chromas> I think the scientific term is "turd burglar"
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[16:09:32] <Ingar> has anyone actually _seen_ the Barbie movie?
[16:09:43] <Ingar> (you can say it was for the science, I won't mind)
[16:11:09] <Ingar> is it a parody or do they mean it?
[18:14:20] <chromas> Nope. Much like Temu and and Velma, nobody'd ever heard of it until suddenly everyone was talking about how bad it is
[19:08:06] <requerdanos> https://www.rottentomatoes.com
[19:08:08] <systemd> ^ 03Barbie
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[20:47:19] <chromas> lol, 90%/87%
[20:48:12] <requerdanos> must be a great movie then, no?
[20:48:25] <chromas> "A delightful confection at its best, an unfocused jumble at its worst."
[20:48:45] <chromas> I don't know what that even means
[20:49:13] <chromas> "The details of the story seem utterly inseparable from, and continuous with, the riotously ornamental visual realms that it sets into motion."
[20:53:48] <chromas> https://www.vice.com
[20:53:50] <systemd> ^ 03Researchers Find ‘Backdoor’ in Encrypted Police and Military Radios
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[20:55:50] <kolie> tl;dr tetra uses TEA1 for 80 bit security which is pretty broken and proabably intentionally.
[20:57:00] <kolie> TEA2/3 is what the police ems, mil use inside and outside of europe. Unfriendly countries only getl icenses for tea1.
[20:57:24] <chromas> "[...] the researchers also found other, multiple vulnerabilities across TETRA that could allow historical decryption of communications and deanonymization."
[21:00:08] <kolie> Yea: https://pasteboard.co
[21:00:10] <systemd> ^ 03Pasteboard - Uploaded Image
[21:00:37] <kolie> technically interesting but no where near as fucked up as the tea1 backdoor.
[21:02:00] <kolie> 24401 looks semi practical to use
[21:02:18] <chromas> a screenshot of a web page
[21:02:39] <kolie> its on hackernews
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[21:08:58] <kolie> Ari only comes on when I'm not here as u sual.
[21:09:09] <kolie> he needs to learn PST time zone.
[21:15:29] <chromas> or fall down a well
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[22:21:20] <SteveBandon> Barbie seems to have destroyed chromas, too.
[22:23:21] <requerdanos> Good job on the PST, anyway. Like a consolation prize.
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[22:47:06] <kolie> requerdanos, lol wdym?
[22:48:30] <requerdanos> "SteveBandon" seems to exhibit some of the same tendencies as our resident griefer.
[22:50:50] <kolie> Oh gotcha..
[22:51:03] <kolie> didnt even notice.