#soylent | Logs for 2023-07-11

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[00:37:07] <Bytram> chromas: There is one problem with that - I tether my cell phone to get online. I'm limited to ~250KiB/s with a limit of 50 GB per month.
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[06:16:22] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[06:16:25] <systemd> ^ 03Growing Rat Neurons... To Play Video Games?
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[07:05:44] <halibut> I think chromas was saying you could just tell yt-dlp to download all of them, and, assuming the videos have their original file names, it will only download the ones you have not already downloaded.
[07:12:36] <inz> (but it use some network traffic to get the filename)
[07:14:53] <halibut> True. I know at least some of the YouTube files are multiple megabytes, even excluding the video itself (I think the player is multiple megabytes), so that might still be a decent data usage.
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[09:26:02] <Ingar> that's why God created multi-terrabyte harddrives
[09:26:39] <Ingar> I'm currently doing some scanwork at +/- 180 MB per image
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[10:46:39] <Ingar> (not to mention the copious amounts of diskspace you want for astrophotography)
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[15:35:58] <fab23> this will break access for all the old Android devices, as they do not have the ISRG Root X1 CA installed -> https://community.letsencrypt.org
[15:35:59] <systemd> ^ 03Shortening the Let's Encrypt Chain of Trust
[15:38:31] <requerdanos> As I read the meta about the subject, it was about 0% "I need to support the old stuff", 85-90% "I want us to support the old stuff", and a fair smattering of "Let's just support unencrypted http"
[15:40:03] <fab23> it will not only affect SN, this devices will not be able to use many other websites quite soon, as currently a larger part of the web is using Let's Encrypt.
[15:41:12] <requerdanos> well, sure, I use let's encrypt on some of my sites.
[15:41:36] <requerdanos> can't beat "easy and free"
[15:41:47] <fab23> the ISRG Root X1 was created on 04 Jun 2015, and if it is not in a devices certificate store, then the device does really run outdated software.
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[15:49:00] <progo> fab23 unfortunately the whole market treats a 6 year old Android device as e-waste so there's not much we can do except offer a browser tied to a proxy server
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[15:53:10] <requerdanos> Of the wired telephones from 100 years ago, many still work fine. Just saying.
[15:54:56] <progo> Sunday I was helping my dad sort and categorize retro computers and retro computer software and parts from the attic. (no one in the family has any fetishistic attachment to the physical embodiment of any of this, or the space to install it; he'll unload what he can on ebay and craigslist.) we came across an old bakelite unbreakable Bell phone --
[15:54:56] <progo> the kind you could only lease -- "do you think AT&T wants this back?"
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