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[00:56:21] <AlwaysNever> I'm all in for neo-pagan or other religions, but let them have their own thing, and not copy cat other things - I don't see the Islam world making a "fake" Christmas for themselves
[01:00:36] <AlwaysNever> which brings me to my favorite rant: why is Christmas set to a fixed date, but Ester does not?
[01:01:52] <AlwaysNever> Yeah, I know about the lunar calendar of old Jews and that Christ was celebrating the Jew holiday of Egipt's liberation the days before the Romans killed him, which was baeds in their lunar calendar
[01:02:50] <AlwaysNever> But why cannot be Christ's death be pinpointed to a particular day in our current calendar, and therefore make Christian's Easter a fixed day??????
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[08:23:12] <chromas> A better name for juneteenth would be Black Pander Day
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[09:05:33] <Grd> why?
[09:05:59] <Grd> Will June Eleventh be White Panda Day?
[09:06:08] <Grd> What about the 13th? Red Panda Day?
[09:15:28] <Grd> at what point did search engines start forcing autocorrect and only showing results for the auto corrected version
[09:18:42] <ted-ious> Maybe we all need to run our own searx instances.
[09:29:32] <Grd> SearXNG is a free internet metasearch engine which aggregates results from more than 70 search services. Users are neither tracked nor profiled. Additionally, SearXNG can be used over Tor for online anonymity.
[09:29:44] <Grd> Interesting..
[09:36:29] <Grd> maybe AI wil solve it
[10:00:38] <AlwaysNever> search engines will be full of crap in short order, thank to AI
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[10:34:15] <Grd> ahh so true yes
[10:39:07] <ted-ious> Then definitely we all need to run our own searx instances.
[10:42:15] <Grd> like we should all run our own pihole (waiting for chrome to pull the plug)
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[10:54:22] <ted-ious> Chrome is just a closed source web browser form google?
[10:59:21] <Grd> based on Chromium
[10:59:32] <Grd> in theory, you could compile your own version
[10:59:36] <Grd> Microsoft did just that..
[10:59:40] <Grd> (and look what happened)
[11:00:07] <ted-ious> What does that have to do with pihole?
[11:00:47] <Grd> manifest 3 will change how Chromium plugins work
[11:01:14] <Grd> the existing ad blocking functionality may no longer work.. hence.. another method for blocking ads and other web elements will be needed
[11:01:19] <Grd> pihole can do most of that
[11:01:27] <ted-ious> DNS won't work anymore?
[11:01:55] <Grd> DNS will work. The ad blockers will be limited to how many rules can be loaded, and what they can parse.
[11:02:04] <ted-ious> I don't know what chrome does or doesn't do because I won't run google's closed source software if I can help it.
[11:02:38] <Grd> the funniest part is that their justiication for the changes is terrible
[11:02:53] <Grd> Firefox is also looking at adopting manifest 3
[11:03:08] <Grd> https://arstechnica.com
[11:03:09] <systemd> ^ 03Chrome’s “Manifest V3” plan to limit ad-blocking extensions is delayed
[11:03:14] <Grd> https://www.theverge.com
[11:03:15] <systemd> ^ 03Firefox found a way to keep ad-blockers working with Manifest V3
[11:03:20] <Grd> Google’s version of Manifest V3 limited features used by content blockers; Mozilla’s promising it’s not doing the same
[11:03:22] <Grd> nnnn
[11:03:30] <Grd> I'll believe that when I see it.
[11:04:36] <ted-ious> Will umatrix and ublock origin keep working or no?
[11:04:48] <Grd> in firefox, yes
[11:04:54] <Grd> in Chrome.. it looks like no
[11:05:02] <Grd> unless they make changes to how m3 works..
[11:05:13] <Grd> I can't stand the internet without umatrix
[11:05:32] <ted-ious> Well this just means more people will stop using chrome.
[11:06:04] <ted-ious> Because the web without any kind of blocking is not a very nice experience.
[11:07:32] <Grd> we can only hope
[11:07:55] <Grd> I am all behind having multiple browsers, but chrome and edge really suck
[11:08:43] <Grd> Perhaps this is not obvious if you haven't had to support them
[11:09:56] <Grd> Microsoft's attempt to provide web browser solutions to the world has caused me more angst than it is worth.. but then.. permanent job employement!
[11:10:46] <Grd> Microsoft provide very crappy solutions.
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[15:03:50] <fab23> https://foxtrot.com
[15:03:51] <systemd> ^ 03Father's Day Games
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[17:35:25] <Bytram> fab23: That was *great*!!! TYVM!
[17:36:30] <janrinok> Bytram, hi
[17:37:13] <Bytram> Hi!
[17:37:22] <janrinok> having a good weekend?
[17:42:32] <Bytram> well... a week of rainy weather is coming to an end in 3 more days, and my friend has been released from hospital but it's not clears how things well go for him. OTOH, I met with some friends this AM and had a good time! How 'bout you?
[17:43:57] <janrinok> quiet - but to be honest I have been taking it easier than I usually do. Not a wasted day but not very productive.
[17:44:37] <janrinok> We had our first rain in over 3 weeks - a heavy downpour but we need a lot more.
[17:47:42] <Bytram> Heh! We got lots; you're welcome to stop by and help yourself!
[17:47:59] <Bytram> ;)
[17:48:26] <janrinok> post me a bucket or two please - COD
[17:49:19] <Bytram> LOLLL!
[17:49:32] <Bytram> Incoming quote; may take me a while to type...
[17:53:02] <Bytram> Sometime I just go off by myself. I don't do anything, but oh I accomplish so much!
[17:54:08] <janrinok> that sounds perfectly reasonable, and is just how I feel today
[17:55:57] <Bytram> :)
[17:56:17] <Bytram> Some background:
[18:06:06] <Bytram> I was is college doing some research for a paper. Not much was available in our library. But, there were some references to "The Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature" (Remember those?) So hiked about a mile to a neighboring college to look at what they had. Found a half dozen or so promising works. A half hour later, as I was flipping through a magazine, I found THAT. Oh, that was the *only* time I visited that college! Pretty
[18:06:06] <Bytram> neat, huh?
[18:08:24] <janrinok> yes, very. Is that the same publication that we had which was called The Readers' Digest?
[18:08:51] <Bytram> And... that was over 40 years ago!
[18:09:32] <janrinok> No, it seems it was not the same thing. But I now know what yours was about.
[18:10:53] <Bytram> Umm. I don't remember the name of the actual publication, bot it was not Reader's Digest. Nice try!
[18:11:19] <janrinok> No, the name that you quoted is correct - I googled it
[18:11:32] <janrinok> Mine is a completely different thing...
[18:11:54] <Bytram> Wait! You found it!!!??
[18:12:27] <janrinok> Yep
[18:12:35] <Bytram> (That quote was from memory)
[18:13:08] <Bytram> BRB
[18:13:14] <janrinok> file://
[18:14:08] <janrinok> https://www.amazon.com
[18:14:11] <systemd> ^ 03The Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, October 2012: An Author Subject Index to Selected General Interest Periodicals of Reference Value in Libraries: H. W. Wilson: 9780824211561: Amazon.com: Books
[18:14:50] <janrinok> "H.W. Wilson Initiates Publication of the "Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature"
[18:14:50] <janrinok> 1901
[18:16:21] <janrinok> The Reader’s Guide to Periodical Literature is a reference guide to
[18:16:21] <janrinok> recently published articles in periodical magazines and scholarly
[18:16:21] <janrinok> journals. The reader’s guide has been published regularly since 1901 by
[18:16:21] <janrinok> The H.W Wilson Company, and is a staple of public and academic
[18:16:22] <janrinok> references libraries throughout the United States and Canada.
[18:16:38] <Bytram> Yup, that's it. I thought you had found the actual quotation!
[18:16:49] <janrinok> no - give me chance!Q
[18:17:21] <Bytram> LOL! Let me get my lunch ;)
[18:17:39] <fab23> .oO( janrinok may have secrect access to the internet :)
[18:18:21] <janrinok> they call it ADSL
[18:18:48] <fab23> hm, maybe misstyped, janrinok may have access to the secret internet :)
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[18:25:10] <janrinok> lol - I have that as well
[18:25:30] <janrinok> But if I showed you it wouldn't be secret....
[18:27:29] <fab23> I know
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[23:15:30] <progo> my friend who is a nobody not-very-good cartoonist sent an application for "Monetization" on Twitter a month ago. their response: no response. not even a "no not right now."
[23:15:56] <progo> YouTube: you can never know the correct rules of behavior and can't talk to someone when you've violated the rules.
[23:15:56] <progo> Twitter: can't even get any straight answers before you have a contract
[23:16:04] <progo> soul crushing platforms
[23:18:15] <progo> take not, anyone looking to make money somehow, selling "content"
[23:19:59] <progo> *take note
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