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[00:36:05] <chromas> Bytram: yeah; internet burped around that time
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[05:39:39] <Bytram> chromas: Aww, the poor baby needed to be burped!
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[14:32:32] <progo> https://noagendasocial.com some bitcoin person in my feed was saying the network was being attacked yesterday so as to make regular legit transactions in the live queue incredibly expensive…
[14:32:32] <systemd> ^ 03NBS (@NBS@noagendasocial.com)
[14:32:40] <progo> anyone got a blog post or news story about it?
[14:33:20] <progo> "will eventually go back down to normal."
[14:33:21] <progo> not sure how, if we don't know the nature of the attack and whether it uses significant resources
[14:34:48] <progo> https://ycharts.com still ongoing I guess
[14:34:49] <systemd> ^ 03Bitcoin Average Transaction Fee
[14:34:58] <progo> (click "1 month scale")
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[14:40:05] <progo> I looked it up in google news. it's a mess. if anyone submits to soylent I hope they're an expert with a real opinion of their own about what's going on
[14:40:16] <progo> https://cointelegraph.com "this is fine"
[14:40:17] <systemd> ^ 03‘Bitcoin is not under attack:’ BTC maxis allay fears of a DoS offensive
[14:41:04] <progo> that's the first time I've asked the google home page for anything, in years
[14:41:23] <progo> I've been using Brave as my default, and it's not great. I know DDG has been hella slow the last week or two
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[15:19:24] <Bytram> pr
[15:21:31] <Bytram> progo: I never tried Brave; I strive to avoid Google; It's not slowed me enough to really notice.
[15:22:20] <Bytram> GTG - have a nice day!
[15:37:12] <progo> Bytram I said DuckDuckGo is terribly slow. but I didn't it perfectly clearly.
[15:44:20] <progo> *but I didn't say it perfectly clearly
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[19:05:29] <Bytram> progo: Understood.
[19:16:40] <Ingar> haven't noticed any slowness with duckduckgo here
[19:18:34] <progo> so what's special about me now, with this site -- DuckDuckGo?
[19:18:36] <progo> *sigh
[19:18:40] <progo> every query takes over 5 seconds
[19:18:58] <progo> okay maybe 4 seconds
[19:19:27] <progo> do I have to switch to Chrome + Android? at the moment I'm using Brave + Windows
[19:20:03] <progo> or is 4 seconds a normal response time, for people who aren't me?
[19:20:55] <progo> if you want some fun, access subway.com, dunkin.com or mta.info [NYC metro] with Brave + Linux. you'll get banned for the day after 1 or 2 requests. your offense: being unusual
[19:21:42] <progo> **dunkindonuts.com is Dunkin, I meant. after their rebrand they weren't able to acquire 'dunkin.com'
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[23:12:38] <chromas> progo: is it just ddg? Maybe check DNS settings in Brave
[23:13:24] <progo> chromas a few sites do nonsense like I described on subway.com and mta.info. DDG is really slow to respond. I can't think of any other site that is unexpectedly slow like that
[23:14:45] <chromas> The dev panel in the browser should be able to tell you which requests to the site are slow
[23:15:30] <chromas> I just did a search on ddg and it took a couple seconds to fill in the results, though the main (empty) page loaded almost instantly
[23:17:51] <progo> I knew of that suggestion chromas but couldn't be bothered to try it. I looked just now because you said so.
[23:17:51] <progo> one of my webextensions is allegedly trying to prevent loading remote fonts… and according to the recorded data the EXTENSION took 12s to respond to a request
[23:18:02] <progo> interesting
[23:18:50] <progo> I don't feel like investigating further right now -- I'll do it later. the extension probably has a flaw
[23:18:57] <progo> (I didn't identify which one, yet)
[23:19:17] <chromas> Maybe it blocks loading in a dumb way
[23:19:28] <progo> yes
[23:20:17] <chromas> Even though it's essentially dead, I still recommend µMatrix 'cause it's the bestest, and no matter what the dev says, µBlock Origin's matrix still isn't as good
[23:20:20] <progo> maybe it tries to fetch all fonts that are ever named, as you encounter them, from some central repo that doesn't have this font
[23:31:12] <ted-ious> The reason not to use duckduckgo is because they are just a way for other big tech companies to launder search traffic.
[23:31:55] <ted-ious> Am I remembering it right that microsoft is the one who bought them?
[23:38:07] <progo> I understood that in the past and possibly today, part of DDG's search results comes from Bing, without DDG providing any data about the user to Bing
[23:38:16] <progo> I'm not aware of DDG having been acquired by anyone
[23:38:37] <progo> DDG did some questionable censoring a year or two ago
[23:38:47] <ted-ious> One of the privacy orgs reported on it when it happened.
[23:38:56] <ted-ious> EFF or something like that.
[23:39:32] <ted-ious> The ceo came right out and said ddg would be filtering results which completely goes against their previously stated goals of being open.
[23:39:55] <ted-ious> That's when I and lots of other people deleted their bookmark. :)
[23:40:17] <progo> around then I switched to Brave
[23:40:38] <progo> now I didn't remember what they did :^)
[23:41:04] <progo> Brave's cryptocurrency thing is weird
[23:41:13] <ted-ious> Do you use it?
[23:41:19] <progo> Brave's search is good. not all-knowing, but good enough
[23:41:43] <ted-ious> I was curious when I heard about it but it sounded to me like it was just another way of tracking browser behavior so I never tried it.
[23:41:43] <progo> eh, I tried it for a while. I kinda felt like I wasn't doing anything, and the popup ads that pay into your wallet -- they're annoying
[23:42:13] <progo> ted-ious did you see when Scott Adams created his cryptocurrency scam and was selling it with a straight face to all of his eager audience members?
[23:42:24] <ted-ious> No??
[23:42:32] <progo> I have a hard time hearing Brave's pitch for their attention token and differentiating it from Adams' scam
[23:42:52] <progo> the Adams scam didn't catch on
[23:42:53] <ted-ious> Wow I need to hear more about this!
[23:42:58] <progo> hist audience actually mostly ignored it
[23:43:02] <progo> When Token
[23:43:25] <progo> it was a pivot from some fiver "I want to talk to an expert on the internet for 15 minutes" matchup service
[23:43:52] <progo> hopefully you can find some web stories that can tell it better than me
[23:44:01] <ted-ious> Wow I don't know anything about these things. :)
[23:44:21] <ted-ious> I guess it's impossible to keep up with everything that's happening.
[23:44:27] <progo> yes
[23:48:18] <progo> Brave Search for When token now: you get nothing but disused entries in currency conversion tables
[23:48:19] <progo> :^)
[23:52:33] <ted-ious> I'm seeing lots of articles that don't have any criticism.