#soylent | Logs for 2023-04-20

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[05:55:53] <chromas> Dunno about snap whatever but normal packages with a normal package manager will tell you the sizes of everything before downloading
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[09:30:38] <Ingar> I do pacman -Suy and it tells my how much it is going to download and what the net diskspace increase or decrease after installation will be
[09:32:07] <Ingar> in windows, it tells me it's getting the system ready
[09:51:26] <chromas> that calming message that comes on
[09:51:29] <chromas> "Hi"
[09:51:38] <chromas> "Your files are right where you left them"
[10:00:08] <Ingar> "We did reset all your default applications though"
[10:00:34] <Ingar> Are you sure you don't want to try Edge ?
[10:05:11] <chromas> [Yes, I would like to try Edge | No, I actually do want to try Edge]
[11:09:54] <fab23> chromas: did you miss the memo, that Microsoft fixed their Defender and now Firefox does not cause additional CPU load any more?
[11:10:54] <chromas> finally
[11:14:57] <fab23> hm, did read it on Heise, so it was German and nothing to submit to SN :(
[11:17:10] <fab23> https://www.heise.de
[11:17:12] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft Defender: Firefox-Performance-Bremse nach fünf Jahren gelöst
[11:18:54] <fab23> from the orange site: https://news.ycombinator.com
[11:18:55] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft fixes 5-year-old Defender bug, reducing Firefox-related CPU use by 75%
[11:19:37] <fab23> they also just link to the bugzilla entry at Mozilla, so nothing easy to have a ready story for SN
[11:20:55] <janrinok> I can always go looking for it
[11:24:03] <ted-ious> https://news.slashdot.org
[11:24:04] <systemd> ^ 03Windows Defender Finally Squashes Firefox Bug That Ate CPUs For 5 Years - Slashdot
[11:24:49] <Ingar> I wonder how much CO2 is generated because of microsoft's shoddy software
[11:29:06] <janrinok> ted-ious, thanks, but we cannot use /. links for new stories.
[11:32:22] <janrinok> Ingar, well as I think that almost all MS software is shoddy, then one could say that everything the company does is generating CO2, and we could be better of without the company and the CO2 that it creates.
[11:33:47] <Ingar> janrinok: no argument from me there
[11:34:22] <Ingar> MS should be trialed for crimes against humanity
[11:35:50] <fab23> Ingar: see the comments on the HN article, but I guess the bigger issue is, how many people switched to Chrome because of this?
[11:58:52] <fab23> janrinok: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org and the last comments links to some reddit postings, but probably also not useful for a posting.
[11:58:54] <systemd> ^ 031441918 - Antimalware Service Executable (Windows Defender) very active / high CPU when using Firefox ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org )
[12:01:30] <fab23> other english tech portals probably also had a posting regarding this back around the 9th April
[13:23:09] <Ingar> T-05:40
[13:23:26] <Ingar> just enough time for a smoke
[13:27:03] <Ingar> rocket is smoking too
[13:29:12] <Ingar> countdown on hold
[13:30:00] <ted-ious> Is it going to do anything today like launch some starlink?
[13:30:09] <ted-ious> Or is it just a test?
[13:30:33] <Ingar> "
[13:30:44] <Ingar> pff copy paste fail
[13:31:38] <Ingar> First flight test of a fully integrated Starship and Super Heavy rocket
[13:37:38] <janrinok> In flight ABORT!
[13:40:33] <Ingar> "a rapid unscheduled dissasembly"
[13:42:48] <ted-ious> It blew up?
[13:43:15] <ted-ious> I guess I could go find the youtube.
[13:43:51] <janrinok> it lost some engines, started to do a roll manoeuvre, and then eventually lost control. Ground iniitiated abort
[13:45:17] <janrinok> but it cleared the tower, and got off to a good start
[13:50:05] <ted-ious> Low quality stream this time.
[13:50:25] <ted-ious> I guess I'll wait until it finishes and look at the regular video.
[13:53:15] <janrinok> somebody just said that it went about 30km
[14:45:46] <ted-ious> Are you still watching the starship stream Ingar?
[14:46:12] <Ingar> ted-ious: no I went back to working
[14:48:46] <ted-ious> Were you watching this nasa stream? https://www.youtube.com
[14:48:48] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX Launches Starship Flight Test
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[15:31:48] <ted-ious> The video from twitter starts 33 minutes ahead of launch.
[15:31:58] <ted-ious> https://twitter.com
[15:32:35] <ted-ious> From the beginning the 2 presenters are talking about being a destructive test.
[15:37:25] <janrinok> yes, but the destruction was meant to be after re-entry - not during take-off.
[15:39:44] <janrinok> =cite https://www.sciencenews.org
[15:39:45] <systemd> Journal Reference: Cosmic antimatter hints at origins of huge bubbles in our galaxy’s center, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cosmic-antimatter-origins-fermi-bubbles-galaxy">https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cosmic-antimatter-origins-fermi-bubbles-galaxy</a>)
[15:42:05] <janrinok> =cite https://meetings.aps.org
[15:42:06] <systemd> Journal Reference: Have we found the counterpart signal of the Fermi bubbles at the cosmic-ray positrons?, <cite>Bulletin of the American Physical Society</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/APR23/Session/U13.1">https://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/APR23/Session/U13.1</a>)
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[17:18:33] <ted-ious> So from what I can see it looks like that starship test went very well until it was about 34 km up for about 2 and a half minutes.
[17:18:50] <ted-ious> Seems like a good test to me.
[17:20:51] <ted-ious> Also the entire thing was scripted so I doubt anyone at spacex was surprised.
[17:35:32] <janrinok> It wasn't planned to be aborted at that point. The basic mission objective was to clear the launch tower such that the tower was in a reusable state (with some repairs of course). That was achieved. But the entire mission was to reach a state of orbit and then return to earth. It was during that latter portion that the rocket would have been lost if all had gone according to the plan.
[17:36:50] <janrinok> It wasn't "scripted" that the abort should be necessary. The SpaceX team were happy to have achieved the main objective and even more happy that they now have loads of data to analyse about actual flight conditions. Doing it all in simulations can only take it so far.
[17:37:06] <janrinok> They now know a lot more about how the rocket behaves.
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[21:32:55] <Bytram> For those who came in late" ( https://www.youtube.com )
[21:32:58] <systemd> ^ 03Starship Explosion Video: Watch Elon Musk's Rocket Explode After Launch