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[04:23:43] <ted-ious> =submit https://palmerluckey.com your-own-personal-matrix-prison dept.
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[07:07:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Level Responds to Lock Picker Opening its $330 Apple Store Lock in Seconds - https://sylnt.us - <blockquote>
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[09:08:06] <fab23> https://www.geekculture.com
[09:08:07] <systemd> ^ 03The Twitterbird Disaster!
[09:34:43] <bubba> I hear Twitter is going to ban SoylentNews because of its censorship policy. Is this true?
[09:35:50] <fab23> so den SN will also ban Twitter, problem solved
[09:37:02] <janrinok> Looks like the circus is in town - the clown has arrived!
[09:38:00] <fab23> janrinok: bon jour!
[09:57:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Phylum Discovers Dozens More PyPI Packages Attempting to Deliver W4SP Stealer - https://sylnt.us - be-careful-what-you-import
[09:57:27] <bubba> Subs queue seems to broken. Got some climate denier stuff blocking it up.
[10:00:00] <chromas> lol, that commic depicts twitter as a once-majestic blimp instead of the dumpster fire it always was
[10:00:54] <fab23> .oO( Hindenburg )
[10:01:16] <bubba> Oh, the Huge Twitter Feed!!
[10:01:31] <fab23> chromas: https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:01:32] <systemd> ^ 03Hindenburg disaster - Wikipedia
[10:02:16] <chromas> uh yeah?
[10:02:58] <chromas> oh was the hindenburg a shitshow the whole time? I didn't know
[10:03:15] <fab23> no not really
[10:03:37] <fab23> they still build such things and fly with them
[10:04:50] <bubba> It is my policy not to be inside, or adjacent to, large bags of mostly Hydrogen.
[10:05:15] <fab23> https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:05:15] <systemd> ^ 03Luftschiffbau Zeppelin - Wikipedia
[10:15:33] <bubba> So when is Musk going to fire half os SN staff?
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[10:18:03] <fab23> the Zeppelin factory is quite close at the south border of Germany at the Bodensee, there is even a ferry from the Switzerland side directly to Friedrichshafen
[10:21:30] <fab23> a few years ago some company (maybe Red Bull) was often flying with a Zeppelin around, of course for advertisment reason
[10:28:15] <fab23> it was probably Edelweiss (regional Swiss Airline), but could not find any better video https://www.youtube.com
[10:28:17] <systemd> ^ 03edelweiss Zeppelin in Zürich Vid 2015
[10:29:03] <fab23> maybe also one from Good Year
[10:29:43] <fab23> it is so commen to see them, that almost nobody films them :)
[10:31:05] <janrinok> fab23, sorry been away doing routine things - bon jour to you as well!
[10:33:18] <fab23> janrinok: hm, yes, I also should do some RL things as well :)
[10:35:17] <janrinok> as one of them resulted in me receiving 1600€ I consider it a morning well spent!
[10:35:49] <fab23> oh yeah
[10:36:17] <chromas> 1600? Sounds like gubbermint gibs
[10:37:27] <janrinok> No - an over-payment which the recipient was happy to bring to my attention without any prompting.
[10:37:41] <chromas> noice
[10:37:58] <janrinok> I thought so too
[10:40:04] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:40:06] <systemd> ^ 03Progress on a new Bevel Geometry Node
[10:40:11] <chromas> You can make a talk out of anything
[10:45:30] <FatPhil> drinks are on you!
[10:46:32] <janrinok> Drop in and I will gladly give you more than one drink - will happily make an evening of it!
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[12:36:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oldest Planetary Debris in Our Galaxy Found in New Study - https://sylnt.us
[12:50:27] <Runaway1956> I can't see out the windows this morning.
[12:50:49] <Runaway1956> It's like sheets of water are rolling down the outside surfaces.
[12:51:01] <Runaway1956> I suspect that it may rain today . . .
[12:56:21] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh, the rolling sheets of water slow down, and trees outlined against a brightening sky are revealed . . .
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[13:42:00] <janrinok> so, it is a bit damp today?
[13:57:51] <FatPhil> anyone able to see starlink flares regularly?
[13:59:25] <janrinok> We've had too much cloud recently - hardly seen the moon!
[14:00:36] <fab23> too much civilisation around, so it is probably not dark enought to see anything
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[14:10:53] <janrinok> I am fortunate here - all street lighting etc goes off around 2230. Most homes have shutters and, as a result, there is very little light pollution until around 0600 the following morning. There is a little bit of light on the horizon from a larger city but it only affects viewing things for a degree or two in that direction.
[14:29:21] <fab23> seems to be one of the advantages when living outside of city
[14:30:17] <janrinok> .... and it is quiet too!
[14:31:12] <janrinok> Noisiest thing for the last few nights is an owl that has taken to sitting in one of my trees.
[14:33:06] <fab23> :)
[14:36:31] * inz got a mental image of janrinok: https://imgur.com
[14:43:36] <janrinok> yeah, but only _some_ clouds!!!
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[15:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Opinion | Science Has a Nasty Photoshopping Problem - https://sylnt.us
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[16:35:20] <FatPhil> Elon Musk, SpaceX, & Starlink = Clank! -> Kessler no-sat. mixup
[16:35:31] <FatPhil> Elon Reeve Musk's Starlink company = Me, panic? Novelty Kessler runs amok!
[16:35:37] <FatPhil> (both anagrams, obviosuly)
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[17:51:04] <drussell> Do you have some sort of anagram generator, or do you just sit around all day thinking up anagrams to keep your brain sharp or something?
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[17:52:21] <drussell> Reminds me of the Simpson's episode with Lisa and the anagram game, the best she can come up with for Alec Guinness is "Genuine Class"
[17:52:43] <drussell> I wouldn't even be able to come up with THAT
[17:53:13] <drussell> "Here's a ball... Perhaps you'd like to bounce it..."
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[18:10:42] <FatPhil> I have a self-written perl/tk front end that uses "an" as a backend.
[18:16:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk's First Hyperloop Tunnel in California is Gone - https://sylnt.us - pave-paradise-and-put-up-a-parking-lot
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[20:45:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - UK Police Fail to Use Facial Recognition Ethically and Legally, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - trust-us
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[22:35:47] <FatPhil> drussell: for reference, the longer anagram took me about 3 minutes - I noticed that Elon Musk Starlink contains almost all of "Kessler", and thought it was worth looking at. The shorter one was from the g/f, and she probably only took less than 2 minutes. So no great time sink. We're pros!
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[22:36:04] <Runaway1956> https://exitcalifornia.org
[22:36:05] <systemd> ^ 03ExitCalifornia.org | California Relocation Program
[22:36:11] <FatPhil> into the sea?
[22:36:21] <Runaway1956> The refugees need help!
[22:36:23] <FatPhil> that's what "the big one" is all about, isn't it?
[22:36:40] <Runaway1956> I always thought so, but God seems a bit slow in delivering
[22:37:04] <FatPhil> because you're not a good enough quaker
[22:37:27] <Runaway1956> Mehhhh, I preferred to run in my boots, rather than quake
[22:37:45] <Runaway1956> Or, quack.
[22:37:55] <Runaway1956> Polly want a quacker!
[22:38:55] <Runaway1956> Way back when, it was Pennsylvania - the major export for a couple decades were it's youth
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[22:57:35] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[22:57:36] <systemd> ^ 03Chris de Burgh - A Spaceman Came Travelling (Weihnachten in Bethlehem - ZDF HD 2015 dec24)
[23:09:39] <FatPhil> I didn't think the Americans knew CdeB, remote Brit-alike as he is.
[23:09:51] <FatPhil> I introduced the g/f to him only about a year ago.
[23:10:03] <FatPhil> =yt chris de burgh don't pay the ferryman
[23:10:04] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Chris de Burgh - Don't Pay The Ferryman (04:02; 4,958,834 views; 👍22,527 👎[hidden by butthurt Google employees])
[23:11:06] <Runaway1956> Always remember - you need a silver coin in your coffin to pay the ferryman
[23:11:13] <FatPhil> first person to mention L... .. R.. gets a slap.
[23:12:07] <FatPhil> =g Inside No. 9 Merrily Merrily
[23:12:08] <systemd> https://www.denofgeek.com - Inside No. 9 Series 7 Episode 1 Review: Merrily, Merrily | Den of Geek
[23:12:35] <FatPhil> I think that was when I played her the CdeB track. But that's a bit of a spoiler, sorry.
[23:12:55] <FatPhil> Having said that, it's /Inside No. 9/, someone was bound to be dead.
[23:13:15] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[23:13:17] <systemd> ^ 03Chris De Burgh - The Revolution Special Version (no shity remaster)
[23:13:29] <Runaway1956> more Chris for you . . .
[23:14:54] <FatPhil> You can't come "down" from "valleys"?!?!?
[23:15:02] <FatPhil> the valley's the bottom bit.
[23:15:06] * Runaway1956 sighs
[23:15:17] <Runaway1956> 100 valleys can lead down to a plain
[23:18:22] <FatPhil> but he says "coast", not "plain"!?!?!??
[23:18:45] <Runaway1956> If you've ever been to Virginia, you've stood on a coastal plain
[23:18:57] <Runaway1956> and, if you drove up to Roanoke, you drove up into a valley
[23:19:15] <Runaway1956> You islanders don't understand geography very well, do ya?
[23:19:57] <Runaway1956> That would be a good seque into 'Island Girl'
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[23:25:46] <FatPhil> We have no proof CdeB had ever been to Virginia. So he's probably writing about the valleys not in Virginia.
[23:26:33] <Runaway1956> You reckon he has ever been to Ukraine and the surrounding region? Many valleys lead down from the mountains into Ukraine.
[23:27:18] <FatPhil> I have no evidence for that, so there's no reason to assume he has.
[23:27:23] <Runaway1956> Continents are kinda like that - mountain ranges have many valleys, and water flows through the valleys, in the high end, out the low end, onto the plains, coastal or otherwise
[23:27:36] <FatPhil> You do realise that Ireland isn't a continent, don't you?
[23:27:59] <Runaway1956> Ireland? I was speaking of places found on Earth.
[23:28:16] <Runaway1956> I don't know how things work in leprachan lands
[23:28:40] <Runaway1956> The wee folk have their own laws.
[23:28:53] <FatPhil> Yes, and I was speaking of lyrics written by Chris de Burgh
[23:29:14] <FatPhil> And therefore SE Ireland and SW England are the most relevant geographical references
[23:30:04] <Runaway1956> So, you expect me to find places in the isles where water flows into the high end of a valley, out the low end, onto the coast?
[23:30:14] <Runaway1956> That shouldn't be hard at all, at all.
[23:30:30] <Runaway1956> How does the Thames work, now?
[23:30:45] <Runaway1956> Or the Times?
[23:31:02] <FatPhil> the source of the thames is nearly in wales
[23:31:12] <Runaway1956> And?
[23:31:28] <Runaway1956> The source of the Sissimippi is nearly in Canada
[23:31:49] <FatPhil> I don't think it goes through much that can be called valleys
[23:32:02] <FatPhil> I used to live in "Thames Valley" region. There were no valleys there.
[23:32:20] <Runaway1956> HAH! Methinks that the term "valley" should be properly defined here.
[23:32:39] <Runaway1956> Rivers flow through valleys, they don't flow across the ridges, after all.
[23:32:56] <FatPhil> everything SE of the line between the bristol channel and the wash is basically just flat.
[23:33:47] <Runaway1956> https://www.wordnik.com
[23:33:48] <systemd> ^ 03valley — definition, examples, related words and more at Wordnik
[23:33:58] <ted-ious> Runaway1956: All of the earth is smooth and lacks mountains and valleys if you look at it from far enough away. :)
[23:34:26] <Runaway1956> Hmmmmm . . . would you buy me a ticket to get far enough away?
[23:34:29] <FatPhil> However, that just reinforces my point that you can't come *down* from the valleys.
[23:34:29] * Runaway1956 grins
[23:34:50] <FatPhil> the whole of "Thames Valley", and "Colne Valley" next to it, was flat
[23:35:07] <FatPhil> Valleys are the things between the hills
[23:35:08] <Runaway1956> "Through the Mississippi darkness, rolling down to the sea"
[23:35:10] <ted-ious> I think elon musk might sell you one.
[23:35:23] <ted-ious> Or is it bezos that's selling rides?
[23:35:25] <Runaway1956> If water flows, you can come down from there
[23:35:39] <FatPhil> Daffodils, for pity's sake - "That floats on high o'er vales and hills" - the vales weren't the hills
[23:36:19] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh - and if the water don't flow out the bottom of the vale, soon it will become a lake.
[23:36:22] <FatPhil> I think Musk has sold himself so many silly ideas that he's all out of anything to offer me right now.
[23:36:43] <Runaway1956> If I'm to continue arguing silly shite, I needs a cuppa
[23:36:52] <FatPhil> yes - that's where the "coast" he mentioned comes in handy.
[23:37:53] <Runaway1956> Well, all the water flows down into the sea, amirite?
[23:38:12] <Runaway1956> You ain't "down" until you're afloat on one of the seas
[23:38:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ghost Particles Crashing Into Antarctica Reveal Unseen Heart of Nearby Galaxy - https://sylnt.us - straight-outta-Antarctica
[23:38:43] <Runaway1956> So, how many seas have you been afloat on?
[23:38:55] <Runaway1956> And, which was your favorite?
[23:39:22] * Runaway1956 remembers a sunset on the Sargasso Sea that has never been equaled anywhere
[23:39:25] <FatPhil> I know you've rejected learning English for 300+ years, but that doesn't mean we can't stop trying. I know your revenge is to push your language on that god-forsaken island off europe, and I think you've won that battle.
[23:40:11] <Runaway1956> American English is more like the King's English of 300 years ago, than modern UK English is
[23:40:14] <FatPhil> The cruise we did to Rhodes was probably one of my favourites. Fucking Colossus wasn't there to greet us. Bastard.
[23:41:03] <Runaway1956> I positively hate when icons wander off . . .
[23:46:15] <FatPhil> Both branches have evolved since we split - a lot. I do like some of the late-middle-Englishism/early-modern-Englishisms that you preserve that we don't.
[23:46:59] <FatPhil> "fall" is a perfectly good word for autumn
[23:47:35] <Runaway1956> But of course! That is when the leaves fall.
[23:49:57] <Runaway1956> You know, I just realized that Venado Tuerto is a long way from Ireland . . .
[23:50:02] <Runaway1956> https://chrisdeburgh.net
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