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[01:06:32] <Runaway1956> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[01:06:33] <systemd> ^ 03This is the Kind of Neighborhood We Want to Live In - The Truth About Guns
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[03:42:50] <MournPhil> Runaway posting more of the "TruthAboutDumbs"? I thought we all already knew all that was to be known, or at least needed to be known, about ammosexuals and their death sex fetish.
[03:59:30] <AzumaHazuki> we all know he's a self-loathing bisexual who would rather see the world burn than admit he wants to suck dick. so?
[03:59:48] <AzumaHazuki> he's never going to change. he's gonna fry and he's trying to take as much and as many people down with him as possible
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[08:44:11] <chromas> zumi talking about ari again. I thought we agreed to ignore him like a ripe fart in a nursing home
[08:45:01] <janrinok> I thought she was talking to Ari about Runaway's latest post - but no matter.
[08:45:29] <chromas> I was just going by her description
[08:45:46] <janrinok> fits them both, I suppose
[08:46:15] <chromas> But also, there's that tolerance we all know and love. Apparently it's okay to disparage homo-/bisexuals if she disagrees with them
[08:47:23] * chromas rubs his keeity
[09:34:05] <MournPhil> What a fine bunch of Reubens here!
[09:35:36] <MournPhil> More top quality front page stories, please? Been kinda blah, lately.
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[09:56:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Texas Sues Google for Collecting Biometric Data Without Consent - https://sylnt.us
[10:00:03] <FatPhil> oh fuxtix, apparently there's been a fire in the office.
[10:00:52] <janrinok> not much point in asking how bad yet - it seems you have not had time to find out. Hope it is not too pbad
[10:01:17] <janrinok> Everybody safe?
[10:01:25] <FatPhil> the whole building, apart from the roof, is limestone, so hopefully it's not spread far
[10:01:29] <FatPhil> heading over to check now
[10:01:42] <janrinok> good luck
[10:47:02] <FatPhil> a quarter of the building's fucked
[10:47:06] <FatPhil> not out quarter
[10:47:44] <FatPhil> I'd upload the photos, but the webserver's in the office, and the power's out
[10:48:10] <FatPhil> annoyingly, it's in the part of the building that was recently renovated
[10:48:56] <FatPhil> our end of the building desperately needs renovation, but I suspect we'll be at the end of the queue ... again...
[11:03:01] <Runaway1956> Why would you keep a webserver in an office that you planned to burn down?
[11:19:56] <janrinok> FatPhil, is there any obvious cause of the fire, or could it be down to a crappy 'renovation'?
[11:25:40] <FatPhil> investigators will be round tomorrow
[11:26:29] <FatPhil> looks like it was just the attic, which was unoccupied, however, I think it was being done up so that it could be converted into a new flat
[11:27:19] <FatPhil> I almost feel sorry for the car owner who's car got trashed by the falling tiles!
[11:27:59] <janrinok> what have you lost from the office?
[11:28:20] <janrinok> .... other than power
[11:28:29] <FatPhil> from the fire, nothing
[11:28:43] <janrinok> well, that is some comfort then, I suppose.
[11:29:07] <janrinok> I don't suppose you will get power restored very quickly, will you?
[11:29:19] <FatPhil> however, because the wall has lost integrity we have water damage. that's why I would like our end of the building to be renovated...
[11:29:54] <FatPhil> leccy should be back on later this afternoon
[11:30:06] <janrinok> makes sense but I guess the owner might not see it that way. That is prompt work for power!
[11:45:29] <FatPhil> damn, I guess that means I lost my 1000+-day uptime on the webserver :(
[11:45:59] <fab23> FatPhil: good moment to update the kernel :)
[11:46:45] <FatPhil> do you trust modern kernels!??!?
[11:47:06] * fab23 runs most of his private servers on FreeBSD
[11:47:15] <janrinok> what version of kernel were you running?
[11:47:48] <FatPhil> devuan old-stable, maybe old-old-stable
[11:47:53] <janrinok> There will be a few security updates but I don't suppose you needed anything of the last 3 years enhancements
[11:48:44] <fab23> I once also had an old FreeBSD 4.11 running rock solid, uptime was ~1100 days, turned the system on when I moved into the apartment and turned it off when moving out. :)
[11:49:58] <janrinok> the power supply here is usually pretty good but there will be a few interrupts during the year due to weather or new building works in the area.
[11:50:27] <fab23> I had an UPS for that system
[11:50:53] <janrinok> The weather interrupts are usually fairly brief (a few minutes) but for building we can get as long as 8 hour breaks - with prior notification!
[11:51:53] <janrinok> and my router position is dictated by the phone entry point (ADSL) but my computers are all around the house.
[11:52:08] <fab23> and at least twice there was a power outage (main fuse in the building) on two following saturday evening when the shops in the ground floor closed and probably used some faulty vaccum cleaner or something.
[11:52:22] <janrinok> I usually swap the the laptop during such warnings - but I still lose the router.
[11:53:09] <fab23> hm
[11:54:27] <fab23> announces power off is quite seldom, had it once in the building I am now in 18 years, but lasted the whole night.
[11:55:33] <fab23> but I once also had a power outage lasting for like 1.5 hours, the servers monitor the UPS and shutdown when it gets critical
[11:55:49] <janrinok> the house is in a very rural area - so easy access to the beach, the river, the forest and lots of countryside - but not much in the way of infrastructure to support wifi. I actually provide an access point for some locals.
[11:56:15] <fab23> nice
[11:56:50] * fab23 does also run an open Wi-Fi for the Freifunk project
[11:57:57] <fab23> janrinok: but do you have at least mobile data, or are you to far away?
[11:59:12] <janrinok> not reliable - and too expensive for full time use.
[11:59:47] <fab23> oh :(
[12:00:55] <janrinok> I tend to be connected to SN for at least 8 hours a day (both site and IRC) and I have only tried editing a story once on my smartphone - never again!!!
[12:02:07] <janrinok> I also have my own server running here too.
[12:06:22] <fab23> I am not doing "work" on the smartphone, only basics like checking email or reading stuff online.
[12:07:46] <fab23> If I need to do sometthing, I take out the notebook (now called laptop according to Apple) and use the hotspot of the mobile
[12:08:42] <janrinok> for editing I much prefer (almost need) to have a full size screen and keyboard.
[12:09:33] <janrinok> I simply accept that I will not reach uptimes of anything more than 1 year at best.
[12:10:14] <fab23> I have given up on the uptime fetish long time ago and to install updates and reboot as needed.
[12:11:02] <janrinok> same - not that I have ever had an uptime to boast about!
[12:11:40] <janrinok> my most reliable comms in still the copper-cable POTS
[12:11:55] <janrinok> *is still
[12:12:00] <fab23> hm, this has been turned off here already :(
[12:12:45] <janrinok> ours is supposed to go off next year but they haven't yet provided an alternative to a lot of the population.
[12:13:21] <fab23> here they run it through ADSL/VDSL, even if you do not need Internet
[12:13:27] <janrinok> Cities are find, so are most towns but rural areas can be a bit of a dice-roll
[12:13:33] <janrinok> fine*
[12:14:02] <fab23> but we will see how this goes if they have to do this rolling blackouts towards the end of the winter... :(
[12:14:20] <fab23> we lost the most reliable communication system
[12:14:53] <fab23> janrinok: hm, is your copper line like multiple km long?
[12:16:02] <janrinok> about 1.5km I think to the nearest switchbox and then another few kms to the next concentration point
[12:16:31] <janrinok> I think from the concentration point is fibre
[12:17:37] <janrinok> the fibre to the next town runs a few hundred metres from my home but they are not looking at connecting individual houses for an estimated 2 years yet.
[12:18:49] <fab23> :-(
[12:19:05] <janrinok> The best connection speed I have seen is around 2 Mb but is it usually around 1.2 - 1.4
[12:19:51] <janrinok> I often leave very big data transfer to go overnight.
[12:20:23] <fab23> I better not tell what I have :)
[12:20:54] <janrinok> It has become worse as more people switch to Netflix or Prime - they just suck up the bandwidth.
[12:21:44] <janrinok> I have friends who live within 10 km of me who have fibre - I know what I am missing! :)
[12:22:22] <fab23> Back in the years when I moved from the small city into the big city, I had ISDN with 512/512 ADSL (on the same copper line), but in the "big" city I was too far away from the regional exchange (like 3.5 km) and only got 512/384 or such :(
[12:23:20] <fab23> luckily they changed their rules and a few month later it was again 512/512.
[12:26:09] <fab23> janrinok: you have to run your own fibre to the line in the street, just cut it open and glue your cable in. :)
[12:26:35] <janrinok> lol - I thought I need a special glue or something.....
[12:26:59] <fab23> heat will do it :)
[12:27:19] * janrinok goes looking for his blow torch
[12:28:12] <fab23> hm, if there is an accident and the line in the street is cut, the repair crew will arrive, they have the proper equipment to also connect your private fiber in :)
[12:28:40] * janrinok wonders if he left his blow torch in FatPhil's office.....
[12:28:49] <fab23> /o\
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[19:21:57] <FatPhil> the question remains: are the flags at COTA big enough
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[19:51:07] <FatPhil> fux: looks like the mail/webserver's not coping - and its monitor's totally futzed too.
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[23:13:20] <halibut> My uptimes cannot compete with some of the ones mentioned here ... unless ...
[23:13:29] <halibut> $ alias uptime='echo One meelion days!'
[23:13:32] <halibut> $ uptime
[23:13:37] <halibut> One meelion days!
[23:13:42] <halibut> There. Top that!
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