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[00:03:41] <Runaway1956> balderdash
[00:04:28] <Runaway1956> That's a competitive event where hairless men run 100 meters
[00:12:52] <Runaway1956> https://www.howtopronounce.comтакер-карлсон
[00:12:53] <systemd> ^ 03Такер Карлсон pronunciation in Russian
[00:20:16] <Runaway1956> Wildassarchus? https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:20:17] <systemd> ^ 03Onager - Wikipedia
[00:20:38] <Runaway1956> Somehow, I don't think it's really appropriate . . .
[00:21:15] <Runaway1956> the ass is a noble animal, wild or domestic, so he is apparently making some kind of claim to nobility?
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[03:57:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Find Bitcoin Mining is Environmentally Unsustainable - https://sylnt.us
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[06:19:46] <c0lo> =submit usa-manufacturing-is-coming-home https://www.abc.net.au
[06:19:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Ammunition Supplies Dwindle as Ukraine War Drains Stockpiles - ABC News" (47p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[07:05:25] <chromas> FatPhil: got somr pretty rad covers from that stie
[07:07:33] <chromas> hm, c0lo has a good point. the ukraine thing is just a way to divert all our ammos away before they cum for us
[07:39:06] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[07:39:08] <systemd> ^ 03If Coworkers Were Really "Like a Family"
[07:49:01] <FatPhil> technically, this is the best way of performing stock rotation - get rid of all the oldest stuff
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[08:05:22] <FatPhil> and war's always been good for industry - ever heard of Eisenhower?
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[08:36:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Coffee Drinking is Associated With Increased Longevity - https://sylnt.us - then-I-should-live-a-looooong-time
[09:38:31] <FatPhil> are credit card interest rates in the US typically "fixed", or relative to some centrally-defined base rate?
[09:38:58] <FatPhil> Wondering if credit has become cheaper this year because inflation was making not spending money more expensive
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[11:23:28] <Onagerarchus> Runaway has expanded his vocabulary, eh? beyond the usual animals he sexually abuses. I would say this is progress for education, but for an Arkansasian, something of a Dugger.
[11:24:11] <FatPhil> you and your fantasies
[11:24:13] <Onagerarchus> FatPhill--
[11:24:13] <Bender> karma - fatphill: 0
[11:24:27] <Onagerarchus> FatPhil--
[11:24:27] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 180
[11:24:30] <FatPhil> you'd type more quickly and accurately if you used two hands
[11:24:51] <Onagerarchus> Bloody Brit Wanker!
[11:25:03] <janrinok> He can't, he has to keep at least one set of knuckles on the ground to prevent him from falling over
[11:25:44] * FatPhil waits for Bloody Brit Wanker, Bloody Brit Wanker 2, Bloody Brit Wanker 3, Bloody Brit Wanker 4, and Bloody Brit Wanker 5 accounts to be registered...
[11:26:22] <janrinok> the software doesn't care what he writes
[11:26:26] <Onagerarchus> i really appreciate the even, two-handed approach that the Editorial Brits have taken to SoylentNews of late. Kind of a Truss approach.
[11:26:29] <FatPhil> janrinok++
[11:26:29] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 112
[11:26:52] <Onagerarchus> janrnok--
[11:26:52] <Bender> karma - janrnok: -1
[11:27:03] <FatPhil> His graves need no flowers, the computer's remembered his names.
[11:27:15] <janrinok> see, knuckles on the ground.... Can't even spell my name
[11:27:18] <Onagerarchus> Dead, SN is.
[11:27:40] <Onagerarchus> janrinouk has no naeme
[11:28:09] <janrinok> I'll have a glass of whatever he is drinking - it seems to be doing the job
[11:31:15] <Onagerarchus> Piss off, bloody poms!
[11:31:48] <Onagerarchus> God save the Queen, cause Charles has no dick!
[11:32:36] <Onagerarchus> There is no Englishman so low as that they will not cite Breitbart, or ZeroHenge.
[11:32:50] <janrinok> Oh, the cutting wit, the intelligent repartee, the incisive comment - none of these exists in his responses
[11:33:58] <Onagerarchus> =submit Lowered to this https://www.androidpolice.com
[11:34:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Will the Google Pixel 7 Do a Better Job With Pet Photography?" (24p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:34:07] <janrinok> You've been forecasting doom and gloom for over 3 years now - I suppose one day it will happen. You still won't have an account though.....
[11:35:13] <Onagerarchus> You have no Idea to whom you are responding, you scum of the editorial class! Respect your betters, lower class English type!
[11:36:03] <Onagerarchus> Beware the Ides of October. You have been warned.
[11:36:24] <janrinok> You remind me so much of Trump, Full of yourself, believing everyone loves you, and being so stupid.
[11:36:40] <janrinok> Are you related to him - or don't you know?
[11:38:11] <janrinok> Well, time to be getting on .....
[11:38:23] <Onagerarchus> You are a fellow traveller of white supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and supporters of Kucker Tarlson's Scrotum Tanning and Russian Supporting Squad. And, Runaway and Eth;s anti-semitism.
[11:40:00] <Onagerarchus> Remains of the Day, janrinok, Remains of the Day. British supporters of Hitler, until it was obvious that it was not a good idea.
[11:40:29] <janrinok> Which shows that you know nothing about me at all
[11:40:53] <Onagerarchus> Time for British Wanker FatPhil to kick someone, who pisses him off.
[11:42:40] <Onagerarchus> Nothing? Why do you protect the anti-semite Runaway, then, janrinok? Not out of sympathy to the cause? Or more to the point, why do you censor all soylentils who oppose such bigotry?
[11:44:25] <janrinok> We don't protect him. He has exactly the same rights of free speech that you have for yourself. Do I protect you?
[11:45:38] <janrinok> You judge people based on their religion, their politics or some other imaginary yardstick. But they all have the sames rights that you have.
[11:45:55] <janrinok> You cannot change that.
[11:46:09] <Onagerarchus> This was the problem with good _Britons_ Germans, they did not agree with the racist ideology, but thought there was a problem with the _Mexicans- Polacks- Immigrants-Jews-aristarchus, so Hitler was not wrong? This is your tacit Trump/Brexit support, you fucking racist.
[11:47:13] <Onagerarchus> You hide the poor cowardly bastard behind your skirts, janrinok! Why else did you ban aristarchus? So sad.
[11:47:17] <janrinok> You are more like Trump than I will ever be. Bye
[11:47:44] <janrinok> FOR DOXING - not for your views
[11:49:03] <FatPhil> yeah, his views are retarded and his shit's all fucked up, but that's only worth downmods and counter-arguments.
[11:49:25] <FatPhil> Footage of the kerch/crimea bridge incident as it happened: https://imgur.com
[11:49:25] <Onagerarchus> Really sad you cannot see that you are supporting the radical right. No doxing, Every one knows where the bastard live, and what he has planted in his goddamned garden. He can't help but spill all his information all over the internets.
[11:49:25] <systemd> ^ 03What a cat-astrophe
[11:51:02] <Onagerarchus> And, after the treatment of c0lo, but the asshole FatPhil, I expect no respectable Soylentils will remain. \
[11:51:47] <Onagerarchus> Wait, where does Trump live? OMG!!! It is Doxxing on the SN!!!!
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[11:54:15] <Onagerarchus> Finally, Sempie is here! A voice of reason!
[11:55:18] <FatPhil> Senpie probably has no interest in you either. Have you not realised you're a nobody to most people now?
[11:58:04] <Onagerarchus> Not as much as a nobody as the type A asshole software developer who has shilled from Microsoft in it's take-over of Nokia like you, FatPhil.
[11:58:22] <requerdanos> my advice is still don't feed the trolls. How is everyone this [daypart]?
[11:58:58] <Onagerarchus> I am quite well. Thank you, requerdanos!
[12:00:47] <Onagerarchus> FatPhil and janrinok have hurt my feefees, so I will have to log off, now.
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[12:11:35] <FatPhil> some limited troll-feeding is necessary in order to let the randos that we see his nonsense.
[12:11:58] <FatPhil> Were we sensible, we'd /ignore him, but we need to still moderate the place, so can't do that.
[12:12:05] <requerdanos> I understand that responsible people hold opposing views, of course.
[12:12:08] <FatPhil> this demonstrates we're not ignoring him
[12:12:18] <FatPhil> OH NO THEY DON'T!!!!
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[18:18:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Adafruit's Cheekmate Gets to the Bottom (Ahem) of Chess Cheating Controversy - https://sylnt.us - no,-it's-not-a-bum-joke
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[20:47:23] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
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[20:50:46] <FatPhil> that's not tech news, that's just the news that has been in the news all day
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[21:57:57] <Runaway1956> Hey, we have network gurus?
[21:58:11] <Runaway1956> Is this a valid iptables entry?
[21:58:17] <Runaway1956> iptables -I FORWARD -s -d 103.245.223.131 -j DROP
[21:58:46] <Runaway1956> If I understand correctly, that will drop anything to, or anything from that IP address
[22:01:01] <Runaway1956> Maybe I need a shaman instead of a guru . . .
[22:04:10] <halibut> I think -s requires an address argument. You might need to have two separate rules, one for -s, and one for -d. Also, with -I, you need to specify where in the table you want to insert it (-I FORWARD <index> -s <addr> -j DROP).
[22:05:40] <Runaway1956> Ohhhh - kay - I don't know index at all,
[22:05:50] <Runaway1956> would that be like Rule 1?
[22:06:36] <Runaway1956> I think I read that it defaults to 1 if a rule is not specified
[22:07:13] * Runaway1956 wanders off to read a little more
[22:07:23] <halibut> The man page agrees with you. It should be OK to leave the index off, and 1 will be assumed.
[22:07:42] <halibut> This should show you the current rules, and you can decide where you want to put it: iptables -nvL FORWARD
[22:07:58] <halibut> Alternatively, you could use: iptables-save -c >TMPFILE
[22:08:17] <halibut> and then edit TMPFILE to insert whatever rules you want, and then activate with: iptables-restore -c <TMPFILE
[22:08:33] <halibut> The contents of TMPFILE will basically be iptables command arguments, just missing the iptables part.
[22:08:37] <Runaway1956> sounds good, thank you!
[22:20:41] <Runaway1956> So, I've converted Peter Lowe's adblock list to iptables
[22:23:28] <halibut> Neat. For blocking a large list of IP addresses, I would suggest at least thinking about converting to nftables. With it's IP address sets, it would be more efficient. However, since you were modifying the FORWARD table, I am guessing you are playing with a router, and switching might not be a valid option.
[22:23:58] <Runaway1956> Correct, I'm playing with DD-WRT
[22:25:23] <Runaway1956> My machine sees almost no advertising, wife's machine sees a fair amount, laptops and phones get clobbered with ads
[22:25:30] <Runaway1956> I want to shut it all down in one go
[22:26:23] <Runaway1956> Of course, that will do nothing at all for anyone connecting to a VPN, LOL
[22:27:01] <halibut> It seems keeping a list of IP addresses up-to-date would be more troublesome than keeping a list of DNS entries up-to-date. I think DD-WRT has support for hard-coding DNS entries, so you might be able to map a bunch of DNS entries to 127.0.0.1 or something.
[22:27:23] <halibut> Amusing. One typically thinks of VPNs as blocking trackers and the like, but in this case, connecting to a VPN would open you up to more ads.
[22:27:47] <Runaway1956> I'll explore that soon
[22:31:12] <halibut> Probably a little late for advice, but if you are doing a large list, you might consider making a separate chain for it. That way, the only modification to the FORWARD chain is a rule like: iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j BlockList
[22:31:30] <halibut> Makes it a little easier to update without needing to worry about accidentally messing with anything put in FORWARD by DD-WRT.
[22:32:01] <halibut> You just wipe BlockList, and re-create it. Since there are no rules there made by DD-WRT, there is less chance of messing something up.
[22:32:41] <Runaway1956> Interesting - I had read something about chains, but kinda skimmed over it
[22:33:00] <Runaway1956> I'll go back and read more, now that I've figured out how to make what I have now.
[22:33:26] <Runaway1956> Peter Lowe has a page with IPTABLE rules, but it's not optimized for a router
[22:45:25] <halibut> iptables -N BlockList
[22:45:39] <halibut> iptables -A BlockList <whatever_rule_you_want>
[22:45:51] <halibut> <repeat iptables -A commands until BlockList is populated>
[22:46:02] <halibut> iptables -I FORWARD <index> -j BlockList
[22:46:06] <halibut> That should about do it.
[22:46:22] <Runaway1956> awesome
[22:46:23] <halibut> You can delete BlockList by using: iptables -D BlockList 1
[22:46:32] <halibut> over and over until it is empty, and then: iptables -X BlockList
[22:46:53] <halibut> (You also need to remove all references to it, so: iptables -D FORWARD <index>
[22:47:05] <halibut> be sure to not delete any other rules in FORWARD)
[22:48:40] <Runaway1956> copypasta into my working text file so I don't lose or forget it
[22:57:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blizzard Backtracks on Poor Shaming SMS Requirement for Overwatch - https://sylnt.us - Who-am-I-Why-Am-I-Here
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