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[00:15:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The White House Publishes Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights - https://sylnt.us - nice-words,-now-lets-see-the-action
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[01:03:56] <c0lo> TIL cheating in chess is a thing.
[01:04:06] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[01:04:11] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Chess.com Says Hans Niemann Likely Cheated More Than 100 Times, Following Accusation by Magnus Carls" (48p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:05:23] <c0lo> The final report is here, PDF.
[01:05:27] <c0lo> https://drive.google.com
[01:05:29] <systemd> ^ 03Oct. 2022 Final H. Niemann Report.pdf
[01:05:39] <c0lo> =submit https://drive.google.com
[01:05:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Oct. 2022 Final H. Niemann Report.pdf" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:57:13] <c0lo> =submit https://kyivindependent.com
[02:57:14] <systemd> c0lo, 04submit failed: Parse failed
[02:57:36] <c0lo> =submit https://www.wsj.com
[02:57:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ukraine’s New Offensive is Fueled by Captured Russian Weapons" (6p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:59:02] <c0lo> Ukraine's largest arm supplier is Russia - https://si.wsj.net
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[03:07:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Mars Helicopter Snags Mysterious Foreign Object on 33rd Flight - https://sylnt.us
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[05:58:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - https://sylnt.us
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[06:02:02] <Athenion> Love me, I do, janrinok's non-apology, and FatPhil's attempted defense of ZeroHauge because it is just like SN. Epic Flail, guys! Sun never sets on British ignorance.
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[07:49:49] <Oristarchus> The truth about dumbs is, zerohenge is not a reliable source. Somehow, Brits are not able to spot right-wing rags as well as they can in their own country. And, The latest Tory PM tries Reaganomics, in horror of Maggie Thatcher, one-more-time.
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[08:00:59] <janrinok> The source was confirmed by several other articles, I have no doubt regarding the veracity of the content that we quoted. You are simply trying to shoot the messenger. You would quite happily accept a left-wing source.
[08:35:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - People Who Distrust Fellow Humans Show Greater Trust in Artificial Intelligence - https://sylnt.us - we-can't-mod-up-together-with-suspicious-minds
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[09:05:42] <FatPhil> christ, c0lo's gone full-on colostarchus in that 3d-printing-for-government-money story!
[09:12:35] <FatPhil> or as rabid lefties would call it, "the zero hedge story" (which it isn't, they're just the messenger, as you note), or "the gun story", because they're so easily triggered.
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[09:42:27] <c0lo> Was it you that pushed the ZeroHedge story or what drove you in overreaction?
[09:42:57] <c0lo> s/Was/FatPhil, was/
[09:42:57] <SedBot> <c0lo> FatPhil, was it you that pushed the ZeroHedge story or what drove you in overreaction?
[09:50:08] <janrinok> All I can offer is that it was an 'upstart' submission and therefore unattributed.
[09:54:36] <c0lo> I had a FatPhil outraged of my posts and 4 Troll mods coming in fast successions. Not that I care much, was just curious.
[10:00:54] <FatPhil> it was you turning into colostarchus that caused the response
[10:01:18] <FatPhil> ranting about the first 9 letters of a domain name is retarted trolling
[10:02:23] <FatPhil> you could say that I was trolling by subbing a ZH version of the story rather than another one. But the idiots bit, so I won. Alas I now regret seeing all their idiocy, so I lose too.
[10:02:32] <c0lo> OK, your opinion, glad you felt free to express it.
[10:02:57] <FatPhil> My opinion on a matter that was raised. So on topic.
[10:03:10] <FatPhil> complaining about what site a story comes from is definitionally off topic.
[10:04:13] <c0lo> Oh, come on. Don't tell me you are going to publish anything from thegatewaypundit, do you?
[10:05:06] <c0lo> (as an example of the site that my raise brows)
[10:05:15] <c0lo> s/my/may/
[10:05:15] <SedBot> <c0lo> (as an example of the site that may raise brows)
[10:05:29] <FatPhil> I have never read thegatewaypundit, so I will never encounter any interesting stories on it.
[10:05:55] <FatPhil> I know it'll be horrifically biased, as it's one of the most biased and make-shit-up "news" sources there is, there's no point.
[10:06:07] <FatPhil> What was factually incorrect in the ZH writeup?
[10:06:20] <FatPhil> This is what a post to that story should have looked like: https://soylentnews.org
[10:06:22] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Man 3D-Prints Guns for New York Buyback Event, Makes a Whopping $21,000 ( https://soylentnews.org )
[10:06:43] <FatPhil> Score: 1
[10:06:49] <c0lo> Their incomplete selection of the details that matter. Twisting perception by omission.
[10:07:10] <FatPhil> I asked what was factually incorrect.
[10:07:21] <FatPhil> Again, what was factually incorrect in the ZH writeup?
[10:07:49] <Runaway1956> wait for 0D printing LOL
[10:07:53] <c0lo> Nothing was factually incorrect. But it drove you sideways too.
[10:08:14] <Runaway1956> Or, ZeroD printing
[10:09:09] <janrinok> You yourself provided alternative sources - this is all part of the discussion. You could have simply quoted the bits that you believe were 'omitted' to correct any perception others might have had.
[10:09:11] <Runaway1956> After you shoot someone, your ZeroD gun collapses in on itself, and the cops will never find it.
[10:09:11] <FatPhil> People too getting flustered about the source of the story to pay attention to the actual content of the story.
[10:09:15] <FatPhil> flat-brainers
[10:09:27] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: that's the point of it
[10:10:08] <FatPhil> c0lo: sideways from where to where?
[10:10:09] <Runaway1956> But, physicists are upset because we seem to violate their laws
[10:10:20] <c0lo> FatPhil, do you again accuse me I didn't pay attention to the content of the story?
[10:11:04] <FatPhil> No, I accused the flatbrainers of upmodding your off-topic rant whilst ignoring a post that was on-topic and pithy.
[10:11:19] <FatPhil> if you count yourself as one of the flatbrainers, so be it.
[10:11:54] <c0lo> FatPhil, the actual story is: people doing guns buyback were forced by regulations to accept something absurd. They applied corrections.
[10:12:18] <Runaway1956> I disagree: Gun buybacks are absurd.
[10:12:37] <c0lo> The sidetrack: regulations don't work.
[10:12:50] <Runaway1956> The term itself is absurd: how can the government "buy back" something it never owned?
[10:12:55] <FatPhil> the actual story is the regulations are absurd, someone exploited them in an interesting, new, but ultimately predictable - because incentives, way, that makes it a news item
[10:13:14] <Runaway1956> FatPhil++
[10:13:14] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 183
[10:13:21] <c0lo> Runaway1956, I know your PoV, I assure you I haven't yet lost my memory.
[10:13:49] <FatPhil> Despite Runaway1956 and I disagreeing on *almost everything* to do with gun control - probably everything - we agree on this. This is politicians not understanding the cobra effect.
[10:14:01] <FatPhil> Runaway1956++ stopped clocks, eh?
[10:14:01] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 48
[10:14:57] <Runaway1956> Meanwhile, Americans bought another 1.2 million guns last month, because Biden.
[10:15:04] <FatPhil> incentives!
[10:15:25] <c0lo> The fault of the organizers was falling on the regulations. They weren't obliged to do it (after all, their money, they decide what they pay for) and plugged the hole.
[10:15:26] <FatPhil> We're gradient-following, and equilibrium-maintaining machines, that's all.
[10:15:26] <Runaway1956> Biden will soon surpass Obama as the Number One Gun Salesman of all time.
[10:15:46] <FatPhil> Always have been, and always will be.
[10:16:16] <FatPhil> c0lo: in which post to the story do you mention that?
[10:18:16] <c0lo> I didn't. I just pointed to two other versions that *offer* the relevant details (after pointing you should not expect the ZeroHedge to give them to you). A pity nobody noticed the relevance.
[10:18:35] <c0lo> But again, I'm not inclined to play an educator on S/N.
[10:19:14] <FatPhil> Found the person responsible for the poor quality of discussions on SN - was in posession of pertinant facts, and chose not to post them.
[10:19:17] <FatPhil> c0lo--
[10:19:17] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 48
[10:19:33] <FatPhil> Instead, ranted about the first 9 letters of the domain name.
[10:20:50] <c0lo> FatPhil, you are disingenuous. It wasn't the site, it was its reputation.
[10:21:32] <FatPhil> ad hominem
[10:21:48] <c0lo> Enjoy your day, guys. I have work to do.
[10:21:48] <FatPhil> it was the site, because of its reputation
[10:21:55] <c0lo> I'll see you.
[10:21:58] <FatPhil> so you can't say it wasn't the site
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[10:23:03] <FatPhil> I have some ZH reading to do. Read it on monday, saw an interesting story on OPEC+, bought $LOIL: https://www.tradingview.com
[10:23:03] <systemd> ^ 03LOIL Stock Fund Price and Chart
[10:23:36] <FatPhil> Why do ZH's lies keep turning out to be predictive, wah, wah, wah.
[10:37:57] <FatPhil> And why do cowards run away? I've got my morning coffee down me, and am properly woken up now.
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[11:17:22] <Oristarchus> It is not the factual correctness, it is the ammosexual nature of article in the first place. Our smug and self-satisfied editors seem not to recognize American Racist or Gun-nut dog-whistles when they are blown. Strange, all they would have to do is check whether Runaway is drooling.
[11:19:36] <Oristarchus> Runaway's Ruskie name is Pavlov.
[11:21:24] <Oristarchus> c0lo++
[11:21:24] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 49
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[11:25:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nobel Prize in Physics Won for Quantum Entanglement Findings - https://sylnt.us
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[11:35:20] <NormalSoylent> FatPhil getting a bit too quick on the kicking, I see. Must be unable to take helpful criticism, and so SN will decline further. Such a shame, really.
[11:35:22] <NormalSoylent> c0lo++
[11:35:22] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 50
[11:36:22] <NormalSoylent> FatPhil--
[11:36:22] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 182
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[12:01:06] <FatPhil> Au contraire, I'm kicking you about a year after you were politely requested to stop doing what you persist in doing.
[12:01:23] <FatPhil> Go team colostarchus!
[12:15:30] <janrinok> and the software never sleeps....
[12:21:12] <FatPhil> ?uid
[12:21:17] <FatPhil> bots--
[12:21:17] <Bender> karma - bots: -87
[12:21:25] <FatPhil> !uid
[12:21:32] <FatPhil> =uid
[12:21:35] <FatPhil> pah!
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[13:51:24] <FatPhil> =submit https://www.nature.com
[13:52:42] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Economic Estimation of Bitcoin Mining’s Climate Damages Demonstrates Closer Resemblance to Digital" (159p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:54:06] <FatPhil> Oh noes, I'm shilling for big-academia now.
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[14:16:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The World's Largest Camera is Nearly Complete - https://sylnt.us - I-am-a-camera
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[14:37:53] <FatPhil> https://techcrunch.com
[14:37:54] <systemd> ^ 03Here are some of the cringiest revelations in the Elon Musk text dump
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[15:15:57] <FatPhil> https://www.sakerhetspolisen.se
[15:15:59] <systemd> ^ 03Strengthened suspicions of gross sabotage in Baltic Sea
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[16:57:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Oso's Security-as-Code Approach to Authorization Might Change How You Think About Security - https://sylnt.us - cloud-will-bring-me-some-security
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[19:02:51] <FatPhil> I see that the full videostream of the 2022 aristarchus fan-club symposium has now been released: https://www.youtube.com
[19:02:53] <systemd> ^ 03[ 8K resolution ] - 10 Hours Black Screen - No Sound
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[19:36:17] <Iristaphil> There is a pestilence on this site.
[19:44:42] <FatPhil> Not any more - we banned him
[19:44:58] <FatPhil> s/him/you
[19:44:58] <SedBot> FotPhol, did you know there's THREE slashes in a proper s/// command?
[19:45:46] <FatPhil> not when you do it like this s,,,, you fool
[19:45:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Kernel 5.19.12 Can Damage Intel Laptop LCDs - https://sylnt.us - my-old-XF86Config-fears-realized!
[19:55:20] <Iristaphil> FatPhil--
[19:55:20] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 181
[20:17:20] <Iristaphil> runaway1956--
[20:17:20] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 47
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[22:36:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chess.Com Says Hans Niemann Likely Cheated More Than 100 Times - https://sylnt.us - chess-is-a-wearable-computing-man's-game?
[23:38:54] <FatPhil> "Flames are the best armour"