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[01:15:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan's Digital Minister 'Declares a War' on Floppy Disks - https://sylnt.us - yes,-those-floppy-disks
[01:31:57] <chromas> Perhaps if they were metrically sized then we'd still be using them
[04:48:51] <janrinok> I've still got my 82.55mm floppy disks... Cold dead hands etc
[05:47:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Skills Are the High Road to Higher Salaries - https://sylnt.us - we're-movin'-on-up-to-the-East-Side
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[08:45:06] <drussell> You're out to lunch on your metric floppy sizes... First of all, the 3.5" disk is actually specified by Sony as "90 mm" (the case size is 90 x 94 mm) but it is most certainly not 3.25" / 82.55 mm
[08:46:05] <drussell> The disk commonly known as 5¼" is actually defined as 133 mm, even though it is more commonly known as 5¼"
[08:48:45] <drussell> Those are "mini floppy" disks. The original floppy disk is the 8", which was defined as the 8" media, not metric like the newer, more common " 5¼" and 3½" " disks, although I do remember them also being referred to as "20cm" at the time in metric in some places.
[08:56:47] <FatPhil> http://fatphil.org
[08:58:35] <chromas> Sounds like some alternative facts. Being smaller than the marketing size is standard operations here in murika
[08:58:47] <chromas> for example, a 19" monitor being 17.5 or whatever
[08:59:02] <chromas> or a 2x4 being smaller than 2x4
[09:00:49] * chromas checks to see if all of wikipedia's floopy history has been edited by metric shills
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[09:03:01] <kyonk6> problem with floppies is that they were more delicate than dvd-r and cd-r
[09:03:15] <kyonk6> same thing for the tape drives
[09:03:19] <kyonk6> qic
[09:03:28] <chromas> at least they don't smell like celery, unlike cd-rws
[09:03:40] <kyonk6> oh come on you are smelling shit that isnt there too?
[09:03:52] <chromas> what makes you think it's not there?
[09:03:59] <chromas> it's organic dyes all the way down
[09:04:08] <kyonk6> who knows what it really is
[09:04:29] <kyonk6> time for me to eat some melamine
[09:04:32] <kyonk6> because its 2022
[09:05:12] <chromas> now() is always a good parameter to decide when it's time to do a thing
[09:05:52] <kyonk6> download the internet
[09:05:54] <kyonk6> before its gone
[09:06:07] <kyonk6> who was that guy that downloaded geocities
[09:06:15] <chromas> angelfire
[09:06:25] <kyonk6> well, we should ask the guy who downloaded geocities
[09:06:27] <kyonk6> tripod
[09:06:39] <kyonk6> sourceforge
[09:06:41] <chromas> yahoo whatever
[09:06:52] <chromas> they all downloaded each other
[09:06:56] <kyonk6> did you remeber that brief period where sourceforge was distributing malware?
[09:07:18] <chromas> I also remember that brief period when people used it
[09:07:31] <kyonk6> they still do, for linux distro iso
[09:08:02] <kyonk6> they just want linux to run google chrome on anyway
[09:08:02] <chromas> sourceforge doesn't really host those. it just links to mirrors provided by schools and stuff
[09:08:21] <kyonk6> windows 10 blows up, wipe the disk with a linux install just to use port 443 for ever
[09:08:30] <kyonk6> schools...
[09:08:35] <kyonk6> businesses
[09:08:41] <kyonk6> peers
[09:08:43] <chromas> windows 11 now
[09:08:51] <chromas> windows went straight from 9 to 11
[09:08:52] <kyonk6> yeah windows 11 is so easy a baby can use it
[09:09:02] <kyonk6> what happened to opensuse 43
[09:09:44] <kyonk6> normal people won't be able to find a difference between kde plasma and windows 11
[09:09:51] <kyonk6> its got the firefox, its got the chrome
[09:09:53] <chromas> they started their versions over I think
[09:09:56] <kyonk6> thats all i need
[09:10:10] <kyonk6> all i need is port 443 open
[09:10:22] <kyonk6> port 443 does it all
[09:10:27] <chromas> plasma's better than 11, except for the random compositor spergouts
[09:10:50] <kyonk6> i can't afford windows 11 or desire its backdoored hardware
[09:11:20] <chromas> does 11 cost money? 7 and 10 were free
[09:11:25] <chromas> do I have to pay to backdoor my pc now?
[09:11:26] <kyonk6> free?
[09:11:36] <kyonk6> they were free?
[09:11:39] <kyonk6> wait
[09:11:45] <kyonk6> didn't shit get suspicious back in windows 8
[09:12:03] <chromas> xp
[09:12:14] <chromas> muh activation
[09:12:48] <kyonk6> oh i remember xp very well
[09:13:04] <kyonk6> it was the first cheap chinese hardware for the masses
[09:13:27] <chromas> but yeah you just download a hwid tool to generate a loicence, it gets uploaded to ms servers, then any time you reinstall windows on that box it automatically activates again when it connects
[09:13:59] <kyonk6> okay?
[09:14:08] <kyonk6> and?
[09:14:20] <chromas> so it was free
[09:14:34] <kyonk6> reinstall from what medium?
[09:14:35] <chromas> that was the end of the sentence; no ands
[09:14:55] <chromas> a usb drive with an image you download from microsoft's site
[09:15:03] <kyonk6> oh yeah i remember _that_
[09:15:11] <kyonk6> felt so hip
[09:15:25] <kyonk6> well to be honest i remember the free windows 98 i got
[09:15:47] <kyonk6> i see where you are coming from
[09:16:17] <kyonk6> when did yahoo geocities became _easy_ to use?
[09:16:26] <kyonk6> no more ftp required
[09:17:46] <chromas> it was easier with ftp
[09:19:07] <kyonk6> for us
[09:19:19] <kyonk6> it was technical ecstacy
[09:19:45] <kyonk6> you worked on your masterpiece as an 8.3 compatible directory structure in all CAPS on your localhost
[09:20:07] <kyonk6> got the HREF's all right with the .'s and ..'s and ../../..'s
[09:20:28] <kyonk6> but we live in the berenstain bears cornucopia universe, hitler branch
[09:23:45] <chromas> stain is the correct universe. they were never jewish
[09:26:40] <kyonk6> whats that stain in the CSAIL
[09:28:19] <kyonk6> visiting scientist
[09:53:25] <fab23> chromas: https://en.wikipedia.org is just around the corner where FatPhil is :)
[09:53:26] <systemd> ^ 03Murika - Wikipedia
[09:54:15] <chromas> We're closer than we thought
[09:56:07] <kyonk6> fatphil is now superman
[09:56:21] <kyonk6> he is the man christopher reeve dreamed of when he was paralysed
[09:57:09] <kyonk6> virions that would repair damaged nerve anatomy, that was the hope, that was the promise
[09:57:48] <kyonk6> fatphil is slowly turning into usain bolt from the feet up
[09:58:19] <fab23> I guess chromas lives in the Country where the Golgafrinchans from Europe landed :)
[09:58:42] <kyonk6> they aren't even european
[09:58:51] <chromas> I'm a-peein'
[09:58:52] <kyonk6> they are central asian or caucasian
[09:58:59] <chromas> Emphasis on the cauc
[09:59:40] <kyonk6> the bering strait human migration never happened
[10:00:02] <kyonk6> did anyone see that "star talk" episode where they talk about the polynesian westward migration over the sea?
[10:00:15] <fab23> and here the probably correct exmplanation: https://knowyourmeme.com
[10:00:15] <systemd> ^ 03'Murica
[10:00:22] <kyonk6> that guy is now officially a dinosaur like michiu kaku
[10:00:48] <kyonk6> i'm glad science fantastic is still on the air, but they are connected to alex jones
[10:00:53] <kyonk6> (like connections, and connections 2)
[10:05:56] <fab23> when I translate caucasian with DeepL, it says "Azerbaijan and Armenia are part of the Caucasian region.", but I guess the real meaning in .us always was "white people like the European" or such.
[10:07:59] <FatPhil> I'm off to the caucasus in a couple of weeks
[10:08:09] <fab23> hm, I guess the "historical usage of Caucasian" in https://www.dictionary.com explains it.
[10:08:10] <systemd> ^ 03Definition of Caucasian | Dictionary.com
[10:08:38] <FatPhil> mostly Georgia, but we'll dive into Armenia whilst we're there.
[10:09:21] <FatPhil> gonna come home even fatter, I'm sure. very much looking forward to the food.
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[10:09:39] <fab23> FatPhil: /o\
[10:10:25] <FatPhil> also looking forward to the wine, cider, beer, and cognac, obvs.
[10:10:53] <fab23> :)
[10:11:45] <kyonko6> how are you liking your black lower body, FatPhil
[10:12:39] <FatPhil> I like the middle leg
[10:16:12] <fab23> .oO( silence )
[10:16:12] <kyonko6> i see
[10:16:19] <kyonko6> i imagine it like a horse
[10:16:32] <kyonko6> white and black
[10:16:46] <kyonko6> not yet complete
[10:17:06] <kyonko6> the bigness came first
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[10:36:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tech Tool Offers Police "Mass Surveillance on a Budget" - https://sylnt.us - they-are-all-doing-it
[10:44:59] <kyonko6> who cares
[10:45:26] <kyonko6> i wonder if azuma hazuki now looks like naomi wu
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[15:16:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MOXIE Experiment Successfully Making Oxygen on Mars - https://sylnt.us - https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:56:00] <fab23> *panic modus* SSL CRITICAL - Certificate soylentnews.org expires in 1 day(s) (2022-09-06 13:00 +0200/CEST)
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[18:32:33] <drussell> Isn't anyone going to renew the certificate?!
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[19:58:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sharing on Social Media Makes Us Overconfident in Our Knowledge - https://sylnt.us - I'm-confident-you'll-like-this-SN-story
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[19:59:35] <Runaway1956> The cert expires midnight, Green Witch time?
[20:00:22] <janrinok> I know - andI am trying to reach mechanicjay to get him to update the certs. This is not a good weekend for doing that!
[20:00:23] <Runaway1956> I like Green Witch better than universal, lol
[20:01:02] <Runaway1956> Not good weekend because US holiday weekend, I take it
[20:03:47] <fab23> when I look up the details in Firefox, it expires at Tue, 06 Sep 2022 11:00:13 GMT
[20:03:54] <fab23> so still 24+ hours time
[20:05:08] <fab23> but there is a reason that Let's Encrypt recommands to re-new the certificate when it has less then 30 days of validity
[20:05:58] <fab23> but as alsways, no risk no fun :)
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[22:20:30] <fab23> ah, this is coing on in the .us -> https://foxtrot.com :)
[22:20:31] <systemd> ^ 03Lab Day
[22:21:02] <fab23> s/coing/going/
[22:21:03] <SedBot> <fab23> ah, this is going on in the .us -> https://foxtrot.com :)