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[01:43:29] <Ellenor> FatPhil, so, Latin?
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[01:47:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Privacy-focused Brave Search Grew by 5,000% in a Year - https://sylnt.us - strap-on-my-goggles-and-I'm-ready-to-go
[01:48:32] <progo> DDG: "We don't keep a profile on you and we don't censor." "Eh… a little bit of censorship never hurt anyone, eh?"… can't imagine where that Brave growth came from
[01:49:29] <progo> I finally switched to Brave Search last night after giving Brave Browser another look. still haven't installed Brave Browser -- I'll do that later.
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[03:33:58] <c0lo> =submit guard-your-sulfur-margaritas https://www.nature.com
[03:34:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Largest Bacterium Ever Found is Surprisingly Complex" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:35:36] <c0lo> Note on the above ^^^ - the DOIs and the links in TFA (as they are now) are totally fucked up. Maybe they'll correct them after a while.
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[04:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Poliovirus May be Spreading in London; Virus Detected in Sewage for Months - https://sylnt.us
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[06:40:03] <Holoristarchus> Dirk Gently, Holistic Detective.
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[06:54:38] <Holoristarchus> Hi, Lili!
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[07:15:00] <FatPhil> Ellenor: that I can't be sure, all I know is that it was ASCII. None of the non-ASCII ISO-9 characters were needed in the transliteration, so it's uncertain what transliteration protocol or target character set they were using. For me to assert, and for you to assert, it was Latin would be completely unfounded given the evidence at hand..
[07:15:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA, SpaceX to Test Satellite Crash-prevention Strategies - https://sylnt.us
[07:16:01] <Ellenor> FatPhil: Latin is the letters you and I are typing with.
[07:17:39] <FatPhil> nonsense
[07:19:30] <Ellenor> it's the Latin script, as adapted to the exigences of the English language as it has evolved from its roots in jutland 1500 years ago.
[07:19:44] <FatPhil> Latin's a whole family of things, and in the context of belarusian transliteration, it's either ISO9 or Latsinka
[07:19:50] <Ellenor> oh
[07:19:59] <Ellenor> nvm me then
[07:20:08] <Ellenor> I'm just wordsing and not reading very well
[07:22:58] <FatPhil> No problemž̦
[07:25:47] <FatPhil> As long as I can just pass on a little bit of hate towards the academics and compscis who have been involved in the field of transliteration, then it's been a good morning.
[07:27:18] <Holoristarchus> Transliteration is not nearly translation, however.
[07:30:14] <FatPhil> Holoristarchus = Our shit scholar (anagram)
[07:31:41] <janrinok> his purpose in life is to make everyone else look intelligent
[07:33:05] <Holoristarchus> Quo vadis?
[07:34:52] <FatPhil> Pop musicians - the only people who seem to have been disappointed that planes/cars were getting safer, and felt the need to do something about it: https://images.theconversation.com
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[07:52:52] <FatPhil> Anyone heard anything about the latest Cronenberg - wondering if I should have a horror binge for midsummer: https://en.wikipedia.org
[07:52:53] <systemd> ^ 03Crimes of the Future (2022 film) - Wikipedia
[07:53:44] <FatPhil> I still have this queued up to watch - it's by David's son: https://www.imdb.com
[07:53:46] <systemd> ^ 03Possessor (2020) - IMDb
[07:54:23] <FatPhil> And of course the full version of https://www.imdb.com
[07:54:25] <systemd> ^ 03Mad God (2021) - IMDb ( https://www.imdb.com )
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[07:55:02] <FatPhil> I saw the shorts of Mad god a while back, it's visually wonderful, I'm just not sure there's enough story to make a feature-length thing.
[07:55:31] <FatPhil> I'm happy to judge it as a piece of art, though, as it undoubtedly is.
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[11:06:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When the World of Nanotechnology and Microbreweries Meet - https://sylnt.us - more-beer-means-more-science
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[12:37:54] <FatPhil> Does the US openly publish revenue/profit/loss data for LLCs? I'm trying to sniff out the worth of Stone Brewing Co. LLC, which has just been bought by Sapporo for almost nothing (IMHO - that's why I wanna know if they were bleeding out)
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[15:12:17] <SoyCow0980> shopping for "mouse mover" devices on amazon.
[15:12:47] <SoyCow0980> many comments/reviews indicate a concern that if the motion isn't random enough, their IT department will flag them as not organic.
[15:12:52] <SoyCow0980> that's not really a thing, is it?
[15:14:12] <janrinok> So if your mouse doesn't move often enough they ignore it?
[15:17:12] <SoyCow0980> more like "if it moves the same two inches back and forth exactly every ten seconds, then it's clearly a machine and soyployee is slacking. fire him."
[15:17:51] <SoyCow0980> i can't believe IT departments care about this, but looking for opinions here.
[15:19:43] <janrinok> I've never heard of it - but it sounds like the IT departments have become subservient to HR!
[15:25:23] <ted-ious> SoyCow0980: Some employers force you to have a 5 minute screen lock.
[15:25:47] <ted-ious> And they really do want to know if you're sitting at your keyboard especially if you are at home.
[15:26:23] <janrinok> so you aren't supposed to think about what you are doing - just keep typing?
[15:26:44] <ted-ious> I have heard that employers are finding out their people are working anywhere from 2 to 5 jobs at once and they don't want to get cheated out of employee time like that.
[15:27:31] <ted-ious> I guess it's easier to monitor their keyboard and mouse than talk to them and ask what work they're getting done.
[15:27:46] <janrinok> If the person produces acceptable results on time and meeting the specification I wouldn't give a hoot if he did it by swinging on the bars in the monkey cage at the zoo
[15:29:07] <Runaway1956> https://time.com
[15:29:08] <systemd> ^ 03Supreme Court Overturns Roe v. Wade, Undoing Constitutional Right to Abortion
[15:29:12] <Runaway1956> it's official
[15:29:46] <janrinok> it's all going downhill fast from here
[15:30:10] <Runaway1956> Uphill you mean, don't you?
[15:30:25] <Runaway1956> You're in France - do French women have a right to abortion on demand?
[15:30:28] <ted-ious> Runaway1956: Do we know what changed from the leaked draft?
[15:30:41] <Runaway1956> haven't even looked yet ted-ious
[15:30:47] <janrinok> of course they do!
[15:30:51] <Runaway1956> I just saw the headlines, we knew they were coming
[15:31:30] <Runaway1956> janrinok - if/when the US adopts laws similar to most Euro nations in regard to abortion, THEN we'll have something worth talking about
[15:32:05] <Runaway1956> abortion on demand all the way post-partum was never going to fly, the abortionists should have accepted the status quo decades ago
[15:34:13] <janrinok> if there are sound reasons for an abortion it is possible to have one. If continuing with the pregnancy endangers the mother's life, if the baby is not developing properly etc
[15:34:44] <Runaway1956> Exactly - I can't go along with those who would outlaw abortion entirely
[15:35:08] <Runaway1956> but I damn sure oppose those who think abortion on demand is a right.
[15:35:17] <FatPhil> An expected inability to cope with childrearing is enough of a sound reason.
[15:36:23] <Runaway1956> That's debatable FatPhil, but it is worthy of discussion
[15:36:45] <Runaway1956> but then again, third trimester is awfully late to make an excuse that you're not a fit parent
[15:37:52] <janrinok> it is not a legal judgement - it is a medical one. If you have left it to the third trimester you have probably proven your case that you are unsuitable as a parent - IMO
[15:38:54] <FatPhil> third trimester would not be "on demand", that would require medical certification
[15:38:59] <Runaway1956> Well you know legal beagles and politicians, they won't leave ANYTHING alone, and in the case of people who want the state to pay for the abortion, they should make a legal case for that payment.
[15:40:28] <Runaway1956> I should be in the garden . . . got a pretty good start this morning
[15:40:45] <requerdanos> ha ha silly me, I was looking for the abortion discussion in #politics
[15:40:49] <Runaway1956> plugged about 120 seeds into peat moss starters
[15:41:35] <FatPhil> https://www.jpost.com
[15:41:35] <systemd> ^ 03Attention Required! | Cloudflare
[15:41:43] <FatPhil> cloudflare--
[15:41:43] <Bender> karma - cloudflare: -4
[15:41:46] <Runaway1956> let them germinate and sprout, I'll put them in the ground - probably about July 8, 9, 10,
[15:41:50] <janrinok> requerdanos, you are correct, it is off-topic here
[15:42:17] <requerdanos> not that it's drowning out any on-topic conversation, of course
[15:42:32] <Runaway1956> Are my seeds off topic?
[15:42:50] <Runaway1956> I put 10 of those blue hubbard seeds to germinate
[15:42:57] <requerdanos> I would contend that your seeds fall under "other" and are therefore probably on-topic
[15:43:12] <Runaway1956> I apologize for being on-topic guys.
[15:43:38] <FatPhil> Unless your seeds grow up to have the intelligence of plant-life, and head into politics, that is.
[15:45:24] <Runaway1956> Some of my plants are more intelligent than some voters . . .
[15:45:42] <FatPhil> they turn towards the bright orange thing?
[15:46:18] <Runaway1956> Yeah, they do that - most of them, anyway.
[15:47:34] <ted-ious> Runaway1956: What are you planting?
[15:48:11] <Runaway1956> three kinds of winter squash, I'm trying my peppers again, a fresh crop of watermelons, and more peppers
[15:48:24] <Runaway1956> My wife is complaining that I have no hot peppers, lol
[15:49:00] <Runaway1956> told her to go to the store and get some - at $5.50/gallon she has declined to make a special trip for hot peppers
[16:08:00] * FatPhil put way too much chilli paste on his nasi goreng this lunch time. I can feel the burn moving inside me.
[16:08:23] <FatPhil> just can't help it - there's bugger all hot food in town, so when I find any I gorge.
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