#soylent | Logs for 2022-06-06
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[00:26:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Promises ‘Open and Constructive’ Approach to Employee Labor Unions - https://sylnt.us - we-were-totally-planning-on-doing-this
[03:18:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New York State Passes First Electronics Right-to-Repair Bill - https://sylnt.us
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[06:07:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Launches Third Crewed Mission to New Space Station - https://sylnt.us
[06:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tails Linux 5.1 is Out! Fixes the Security Vulnerability in the JavaScript Engine - https://sylnt.us - if-you-use-TAILS,-update-now
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[08:57:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Meeting Owl Videoconference Device Used by Govs is a Security Disaster - https://sylnt.us - of-course-it-is-it-is-the-government,-after-all
[11:37:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - When AI is the Inventor Who Gets the Patent? - https://sylnt.us - Who-gets-it?-Naturely!-(cf:-Who's-on-First?)
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[13:25:15] <FatPhil> can anyone familiar with US brands identify what this store might be? https://www.metabunk.org DE??ILS
[13:25:45] <FatPhil> It's in Florida, Daytona Beach, that's all we know.
[13:27:44] <janrinok> There are a lot of DEVILS in Daytone Beach according to Google
[13:28:46] <janrinok> I think that the V is actually depicted by a devil face rather than a simple letter.
[13:29:10] <janrinok> Lots of images on Google but I cannot identify the location of this one
[13:30:32] <FatPhil> Devils - Ice Hockey Team
[14:17:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Over 9000 Earthquakes and Ground Uplift Were Detected at Mt Thorbjorn, Iceland in the Last Month - https://sylnt.us - getting-ready-to-pop
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[15:11:27] <chromas> Woohoo! init eating is eating cpu for no apparent reason again. My new favorite feature!
[15:12:19] <janrinok> .... on which computer?
[15:12:39] <chromas> my itty bitty little server
[15:13:03] <janrinok> damn, that is important, I thought it was something trivial like the site....
[15:13:39] <janrinok> if we lose the bots I will hold you personally responisible..... or something.
[15:13:59] <chromas> site doesn't have systemd…or at least any modern versions of it
[15:14:40] <janrinok> wise man.... you know what your bots are _really_ doing, gotcha
[15:15:58] <chromas> I remember the good ol' days when the bot was using up all the cpu. now it's not my fault this time :)
[15:16:04] <chromas> Thanks Lennart
[15:17:57] <chromas> hm, 24k resident, 177M virtual. didn't init used to just start something and then reap zombies and that's all?
[15:18:29] <janrinok> you are _so_ out of date....
[15:21:03] <chromas> although it is kind of silly to have the kernel start a program whose only purpose is to start another program
[15:23:28] <janrinok> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[15:23:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Elon Musk Threatens to Back Out of Twitter Deal Over Bot Estimates" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:25:38] <chromas> I guess the positive side of bloated init is that you can have it re-exec itself
[15:26:42] <janrinok> but that is the only positive side
[15:27:17] <systemd> Hey, get back in line, janrinok! You love the systemd!
[15:27:56] <janrinok> I do, it works, it does what it says on the tin, but it does also eat a lot of memory.
[15:28:23] <chromas> and cpu
[15:28:38] <chromas> that seems to've fixed it
[15:28:39] <chromas> for now
[15:28:51] <janrinok> but I have a minimum of 16Gb and 4 cores with some machines having more, so it isn't actually a problem.
[15:29:05] <chromas> only 28k of virtual now
[15:29:21] <janrinok> how did you fix it - switch it off and back on again?
[15:29:33] <chromas> told init to exec itself
[15:30:16] <chromas> you can either systemdl daemon-reexec or send it a sigterm
[15:30:22] <janrinok> I'm not even sure that is legal with consenting adults, let alone an init system
[15:30:25] <chromas> s/dl/ctl/
[15:30:25] <SedBot> <chromas> you can either systemctl daemon-reexec or send it a sigterm
[15:32:06] <chromas> Also handy if you don't want to reboot after updates, though if you're no redhat then the needs-restarting tool won't detect the restart
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[16:57:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla: Cutting Jobs and Teleworking - https://sylnt.us - managing-the-managers
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[17:32:25] <janrinok> c0lo - can you moderate today or is it still causing problems? I know that you are not online at the moment but leave a message and I will see it later.
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[18:31:51] <FatPhil> Is there a nitter equivalent for faceboot?
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[19:47:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Smaller Reactors May Still Have a Big Nuclear Waste Problem - https://sylnt.us - nuclear-misenergy
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[22:11:12] * FatPhil is reading an academic paper with "#DIV/0!" in some of its tables. (Should be NaNs, as I can reverse engineer the fact that they are 0/0s)
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[22:37:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Xerox PARC's Engineers on How They Invented the Future—and How Xerox Lost It - https://sylnt.us
[23:10:37] <Runaway1956> Tonight at 8:35pm ET, Kyle and his new attorney Todd McMurtry will join Tucker Carlson for their first exclusive interview together.
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[23:14:31] <FatPhil> janrinok: looks like it was a "BEALLS", we think we've found the exact store on the map, in exactly the location where everthing fits together nicely.
[23:14:48] <FatPhil> Damn, so it wasn't UFOs after all - I'm so surprised.
[23:20:18] <Runaway1956> FWIW FatPhil, there are indeed Bealls stores - I've seen 'em, never been in one that I can recall
[23:21:06] <Runaway1956> I would say that you guys have it pegged
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