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[23:44:24] <systemd> ^ 03Ukrainian man stabbed for ‘being Russian’ after bizarre translation test at Brooklyn bar
[23:44:24] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[23:44:19] <Runaway1956> I have mentioned that Ukrainians aren't the brightest of the slavs?
[23:37:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Patches Dozens Of Vulnerabilities In Chrome, Update ASAP - https://sylnt.us - walking-back-the-headline
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[22:46:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Billions of Dollars to be Invested in New Submarine Internet Cables - https://sylnt.us
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[21:57:57] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 174
[21:57:57] <progo> FatPhil++
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[19:58:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Warns Billions That Chrome Has Been Hacked, Patch This Version ASAP - https://sylnt.us
[18:58:44] <FatPhil> I never knew crypto was so necro: Non-fungible tokens = Skeleton-boning fun (anagram)
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[17:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - (Some) World Leaders Sign Non-Binding Landmark 'Future of the Internet' Pact - https://sylnt.us
[17:16:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - (Some) World Leaders Sign Landmark 'Future of the Internet' Pact - https://sylnt.us - not-legally-binding-so-meh
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[15:59:37] <FatPhil> I think I'm more "bummer of a birthmark"
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[15:10:11] <inz> That strip accurately depicts my life.
[15:10:02] <janrinok> I knew what you meant but I couldn't remember where I had seen it
[15:09:41] <FatPhil> To this day, any time either of one of us seems to have a problem with a door, the other one of us will just say "midvale!".
[15:09:00] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 173
[15:09:00] <inz> FatPhil++ I had forgotten that one
[15:07:16] <FatPhil> I was of course making a Midvale School For The Gifted reference: https://fifetli.files.wordpress.com one of my favourite Gary Larson cartoons.
[15:04:24] <Bender> karma - inz: 20
[15:04:24] <FatPhil> inz++
[15:03:56] <inz> He opened it half-the-way and then half-the-way and ran into the 75% open door and got hospitalised.
[15:02:54] <FatPhil> He was pressing hard on the school door, but it wouldn't open...
[15:02:27] <janrinok> perhaps the school was closed on the day that he went...
[15:01:34] <inz> Relativity is hard
[15:00:18] <FatPhil> In other news, some people are better at sums than others: https://cdn.discordapp.com
[14:58:06] <inz> Sounds about right.
[14:57:23] <FatPhil> I've always believed that if you can't build referential integrity into a database, you don't understand your database.
[14:53:50] <Ingar> :)
[14:53:47] <Ingar> FatPhil: yeah
[14:38:17] <requerdanos> -ies
[14:38:13] <requerdanos> probably one of those 1nf
[14:37:34] <FatPhil> Am I doing it wrong?
[14:37:30] <FatPhil> Oh, I do.
[14:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cloudflare Just Mitigated One of the Most Powerful DDoS Attacks Ever - https://sylnt.us
[14:27:18] <Ingar> it gets particulary fun when you have to update the databse schema
[14:26:23] <Ingar> FatPhil: yeah, but in practice, nobody puts actual foreign keys in their DB
[14:18:19] <requerdanos> I think a substitute for deletion might be to reassign spam comments to a story called "Spam Comments For <Month> <Year>", again wishlist level priority
[14:09:37] <janrinok> I don't think it is the database itself, it is the slash code that gets confused. .... but I am not here as a programmer
[14:08:37] <FatPhil> a db which gets screwed when something is deleted is a badly designed database, you can codify referential integrity in the schema
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[13:20:49] <Ingar> mother company is in full "suck them dry" mode
[13:20:26] <Ingar> our company got bought a while back
[13:19:20] <janrinok> lol - all the justification needed to win your argument!
[13:19:00] <Ingar> probabely not for long though
[13:18:36] <Ingar> using windows office and teams here!
[13:18:30] <Ingar> damn right
[13:18:17] <Runaway1956> Ingar - the world is stuffed full of bad software!
[13:17:53] <Ingar> Runaway1956: only bad software makes deletions screw up the db
[13:15:34] <Runaway1956> Also, a 'soft' delete left the data in the data base for the unlikely possibility that it might be needed in a legal dispute, lol
[13:15:24] <janrinok> ... and if people want to go specifically looking for comments that have been moderated as rubbish then they deserve whatever they find.
[13:14:27] <Runaway1956> 'course, that has little or nothing to do with slash code
[13:14:23] <janrinok> Our testing so far - done quite some time ago - did not fill us with confidence.
[13:14:11] <Runaway1956> that just hid the post, leaving it in place for potential further moderator actions
[13:13:28] <Runaway1956> The forum tools allowed a moderator to soft delete, or hard delete - and all deletions were 'soft'
[13:12:55] <Runaway1956> At the time, I didn't quite understand that removing a post screwed up the database.
[13:12:32] <Runaway1956> I was castigated severely, years ago, when I hard deleted something on a board, janrinok.
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[12:16:38] <janrinok> Personally, I think that because we do not delete anything we have a much more convincing case to use against the few who accuse us of stifling their free speech.
[12:15:05] <janrinok> I know that could be fixed by making the software more robust, but without a programmer that is nothing more than a long-term aspiration.
[12:14:11] <janrinok> The problem with deleting anything is that it appears to leave dangling links in the database, which in turn makes the db unstable. There is a software option for doing it but it needs a good bit of testing before we can use it without any concerns.
[12:12:24] <Ingar> sure, there are always edge cases, but most of them are not
[12:11:52] <Ingar> well, maybe it's time to revisit that policy :D
[12:11:32] <requerdanos> soylent never (intentionally) deletes anything, of course, just applies moderation as appropriate. Even spams get to stay up and readable.
[12:11:21] <Ingar> I have respect nor patience for this kind of crap
[12:10:56] <Ingar> deleted spam by the thread
[12:10:50] <Ingar> I used to manage board myself
[12:08:26] <requerdanos> maybe put "ability to purchase modpoints" on a wishlist, heh
[12:06:02] <janrinok> It might appear so - but unless we control it then it will eventually drive away many of our good community members.
[12:05:46] <requerdanos> I do agree it's like burning the modpoints in a fire, though
[12:05:17] <requerdanos> or maybe it's a laudable public service, collapsing the comments as spam and getting them out of the way of the next person?
[12:02:54] <Ingar> s
[12:02:50] <Ingar> I mod them as spam myself, but it's a waste of modpoint
[11:57:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - John Deere Remotely Disables Farm Equipment Stolen by Russians from Ukraine Dealership - https://sylnt.us - take-a-little-ride-on-the-old-John-Deere
[11:49:55] <requerdanos> Thanks for your efforts in the war-on-spam just the same :)
[11:48:28] <janrinok> I've IP-banned all of those addresses but it probably will not do any good. All that will happen is that genuine contributors will complain that they suddenly cannot get access.
[11:43:22] <requerdanos> A feature of the current crop of "apk" spam is that the messages are not all coming from the same ip address nor subnet, according to the ipid and subnetids anyway.
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[11:31:08] <requerdanos> Well, I spam-modded ten of them, out of downmod points again. Agreed, annoying.
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[11:18:57] <FatPhil> If predominantly spam comes from a source, we do consider bans.
[10:48:16] <Ingar> what's soylent's stanc on IP bans for repeated spamming ?
[10:47:25] <Ingar> *anti
[10:47:22] <Ingar> this anit-juden spam is getting annoying
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[09:06:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Huge New Ichthyosaur, One of the Largest Animals Ever, Uncovered High in the Alps - https://sylnt.us - how-did-you-get-up-here?
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[08:07:39] <SoyCow8396> concern.
[08:04:08] <SoyCow8396> Runaway Rhubarb, and the wife. Poor Runaway's wife. But, yes, Rhubard if poisonous, if eaten raw. but who, outside of ignorant gardeners, would do that? Several garden plants need some heating, or blanching, or such, before they are safe to eat. Like Almonds, or an example. Or Oleander, Osage Orange, Nightshade, or Datura, and those cute mushrooms that resemble an ex-president's manhood, the Fly Agaric? Careful, though, like pufferfish, only
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[06:25:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Anesthetic Drastically Diverts the Travels of Brain Waves - https://sylnt.us
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[05:13:18] <Runaway1956> =submit https://bioengineer.org
[03:46:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hidden No Longer, Eyes Reveal Rare Mental Condition - https://sylnt.us - look-at-me
[03:37:51] <Runaway1956> Wait - that $39 is introductory price, normally $75 year
[03:36:26] <Runaway1956> It's pretty cool, but limited until you register - student is $39/year and professional is $99/year
[03:35:50] <Runaway1956> I downloaded and installed that elsevior model on my MacBook
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[01:50:07] <chromas> can't see the image
[00:56:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fort Worth, Texas Becomes First City Government in the U.S to Mine Bitcoin - https://sylnt.us - it-will-pay-for-itself!
[00:39:14] <systemd> ^ 03An Anaconda’s Play Date With Dolphins Took a Strange Turn
[00:39:13] <Runaway1956> https://www.nytimes.com
[00:38:57] <Runaway1956> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com
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