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[00:11:48] <Runaway1956> chromas fatphil janrinok Someone got trigger happy with the spam mod again https://soylentnews.org
[00:11:49] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Americans Remain Largely Dissatisfied With Direction of U.S.
[00:13:49] <bacterium> something like chinese "social network" survey would also be very interesting, to see what the party influencers are saying
[00:15:56] <tedious> When headline writers aren't just trolling for clicks they're completely missing the point. https://www.theguardian.com
[00:15:56] <systemd> ^ 03Yellowstone national park offers an annual pass – that won’t work until 2172
[00:16:58] <tedious> That idiot writer doesn't mention the fact that it's two annual passes until the 3rd to last paragraph.
[00:17:28] <AzumaHazuki> useless anyway. 3,3the supervolcano will have long since gone off by then
[00:17:44] <tedious> One for now and one to leave for your descendants.
[00:18:43] <tedious> Why useless?
[00:18:50] <Runaway1956> That is stupid, tedious - in 2172 it's unlikely my great-greats will want to come back to earth just to see some stupid buffalo
[00:19:33] <tedious> They'll be happy living on mars with elon musk? :)
[00:19:58] <Runaway1956> They'll be far more likely to vist the Grand Canyon on Uranus.
[01:27:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Freshwater Mussels Can Inhibit Bacterial Diseases - https://sylnt.us
[03:25:41] <Runaway1956> random stupid shit that I would skim past, but this one has FatPhil written all over it.
[03:25:46] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedailybeast.com
[03:25:47] <systemd> ^ 03Infrared Sauna Blankets Are the Best Wellness Discovery I’ve Ever Made
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[04:06:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lockheed Martin, Intel Sign Agreement to Advance 5G-Ready Communications - https://sylnt.us
[06:40:25] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: god almighty - they chopped the woman in 2 for one of the photos! THat's clearly's not healthy
[06:40:38] <FatPhil> Lose extra pounds - lose both legs
[06:43:27] <FatPhil> There's very little evidence that sweating "detoxifies" you. That's your kidneys' job. Occasionally a study will come out that shows that you can sweat out just one particular toxin, but that's clearly a green jelly bean, and basically bad science. Study sizes can sometimes be in the single digits too.
[06:44:34] <inz> You can answer those studies with a single digit.
[06:44:50] <FatPhil> I believe the wellness comes from having to slow down and regulate your breathing, as you don't want air at 90C rushing into your lungs at high speed.
[06:45:12] <FatPhil> However, these bags have your head on the outside, so don't even have that property.
[06:46:30] <FatPhil> Indeed - in order to not be too extreme in the response, use the middle one
[06:47:40] <FatPhil> Of course, I've not done a controlled comparison of my real steam sauna with these devices (or even infrared saunas) in order to compare. So my opinion is just as much feels as any one elses.
[06:48:01] <inz> I'm sure you can achieve some immediate weight loss... ...until you re-hyrdate.
[06:48:14] <FatPhil> However, I'm not making my judgements in order to sell anything.
[06:49:11] <FatPhil> Yeah, you can get rid of that nasty toxin which is lethal in quantities as low as 5L if ingested.
[06:53:08] <inz> It kills many finns amidst the midsummer festivites.
[06:53:21] <FatPhil> Ooooh, this is some good bunk here: "According to the brand, one 30-minute session in this far infrared sauna blanket can burn up to 600 calories (for reference a 30-minute jog burns around 300 calories). Plus, the infrared heat is seven times more detoxifying than normal heat. "
[06:54:13] <FatPhil> might be techincally true in part if they included the disclaimer "normal heat isn't detoxifying at all", I guess.
[06:54:20] <FatPhil> inz: that's trousers
[06:56:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fed Up With Fees? Crypto Use is Growing for Cross-Border Payments - https://sylnt.us
[07:08:46] <janrinok> Runaway1956, I have unspammed that comment. It was not Spam,
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[07:40:55] <razorbill> No, the Spam mod was clearly deserved, since Runaway keeps posting the same shit over and over. Spam'
[07:49:50] <razorbill> Unless the Runaway protector janrinok feels differently.
[07:51:00] <razorbill> How come nobody but FatPhil and Runaway show up in IRC anymore? Are we dead?
[07:53:57] <razorbill> #weather Isle of Mn
[07:53:59] <MrPlow> Isle View Park, Tonawanda, NY, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 61/46F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 25%, Wind ~5mph. Wed: "Rain until morning, starting again in the evening." 65/42F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 82%, Wind ~10mph. Thu: "Light rain until morning, starting again in the evening." 59/40F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 97%, Wind ~7mph.
[07:54:10] <razorbill> #weather Isle of Man
[07:54:11] <MrPlow> St Bridget's Chapel, Eyreton Farm, Eyreton Rd, Marown, IM4 2HA, Isle of Man - Today: "Possible light rain until morning, starting again in the evening." 50/43F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 84%, Wind ~20mph. Wed: "Light rain until evening." 49/37F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 89%, Wind ~25mph. Thu: "Windy in the morning." 45/36F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 52%, Wind ~24mph.
[07:54:55] <razorbill> aristarchus++
[07:54:55] <Bender> karma - aristarchus: 7
[08:02:16] <janrinok> razorbill, just as you posted the same crap in your journals, and in every submission, and each time you appear on here....
[08:03:45] <razorbill> I do not even have an account. What are you talking about?
[08:03:54] <chromas> jesus dude
[08:04:19] <razorbill> No, I am not Jesus, dude.
[08:06:58] <janrinok> lol - that is because you have been banned. No longer a member of this community. Unwanted around here. PNG.
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[08:21:05] <FatPhil> janrinok: agree, clearly not spam. but the spam modder is part of the you-know-who group, so it's not that surprising.
[08:23:16] <janrinok> I noticed that modder - as you say it is not a surprise
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[09:11:06] <janrinok> you've joined 3 times now, which channel are you on?
[09:12:03] <janrinok> hubie, can you see the DM?
[09:12:11] <janrinok> *PM
[09:12:25] <hubie> On my browser, my prompt line is very tiny at the bottom and I couldn't find it. I think I'm good now. I'm currently on the main channel.
[09:13:37] <hubie> I tried a different browser, so I probably have several instances. Should I back out of all of them and try again now that I can type?
[09:13:58] <janrinok> nah, it will sort it out later
[09:14:15] <janrinok> just get yourself and any one of your nicks onto #edtrain
[09:14:40] <janrinok> that will be "/join #edtrain"
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[09:36:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Review: Ryzen 5 5500 and 5600 Can Breathe New Life Into Older AMD PCs - https://sylnt.us
[10:15:54] <razorbill> Banned? I am here. What ever are you on about?
[10:17:51] <razorbill> Oh, FatPhil, who is the you-know-who group? Labor Party Liberals?
[10:17:51] <razorbill> \
[10:19:26] <FatPhil> The people who need to know know.
[10:22:59] <razorbill> So, increasingly, the SoylentNews is a secret cabal of insiders, attacked by a mysterious force of, um, superheros? I do not understand, and Frankly, it would take too much of my time to figure out what the hell is going on here. Hasta la vista, Soylents!
[10:23:23] <FatPhil> Don't let the door hit you on the way out
[10:24:10] <razorbill> Says one of the two people left on this channel! Ok, good bye!
[10:25:29] <FatPhil> this isn't the channel for everyday chat anymore anyway.
[10:25:57] <FatPhil> Ahhh, you can't bear to leave, I see...
[10:26:46] <FatPhil> either that, or it takes 2 minutes to type as complicated a command as '/quit' due to being a fucking idiot.
[10:28:02] <razorbill> I do miss martyb.
[10:30:57] <razorbill> You could kick me, FatPhil, abusing your super admin powers, based on your suspicion that I am someone you don't like.
[10:31:50] <FatPhil> I don't like idiots. You've already proven to be a member of that set.
[10:37:34] <razorbill> Ou Contraire, mes Britainishmesser! You are the idiot, We all see it. And your actions have killed SoylentNews. Not my opinion. just check the comment counts.
[10:39:42] <razorbill> Besides, for the benefit of all and sundry, who is it that you imagine you are addressing?
[10:41:43] <razorbill> Oouh! IP banned, already? Such a nasty boy!
[10:42:09] <razorbill> Unfortunately, I switched.
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[12:28:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New DNA Nanotechnology Speeds Up Development of Vaccines Over One Million Times - https://sylnt.us - but-are-these-5G-vaccines?
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[15:06:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hertz Plans to Buy 65,000 EVs From Polestar Over Five Years - https://sylnt.us
[15:51:18] <tedious> https://www.studyfinds.org
[15:51:20] <systemd> ^ 03Rich with personality: Millionaires more outgoing, emotionally stable, study says
[15:51:43] <tedious> Study funded by millionaires finds millionaires are great people.
[16:44:41] <tedious> https://www.nytimes.com
[16:44:43] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. blocks Russia’s access to dollars for bond payments, heightening risk of default.
[16:46:17] <tedious> This is going to force russia to back up the ruble with gold which will bring about the collapse of the petro-dollar.
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[16:47:23] <tedious> I'd say the western banks deserve to collapse since they're the ones causing this but it will be the billions of non-bankers who end up suffering.
[16:49:27] <tedious> It's hard not to admit that a timely visit by the ghost of fran ferdinand could take out the zelensky regime and all of this could have been avoided.
[16:51:34] <tedious> Instead we have stupid and corrupt politicians like lindsey graham calling for the assasination of puting which would almost certainly trigger a nuclear world war.
[16:53:26] <tedious> Maybe that's what all the billionaires actually want because they think it will remove 8 billion "useless eaters" and let them rule the planet in peace.
[16:55:07] <tedious> If so I think they need to read some wikipedia pages more carefully about isotopes and half-lives and cancer and mutations and birth defects and etc etc.
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[16:58:12] <tedious> =submit https://arstechnica.com censorship-can-come-back-to-hurt-you dept.
[16:58:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Musk Joins Twitter Board in Deal That Prevents Him From Buying Majority Stake" (14p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[17:02:18] <tedious> "I'm excited to share that we're appointing @elonmusk to our board! Through conversations with Elon in recent weeks, it became clear to us that he would bring great value to our Board," Agrawal wrote on Tuesday.
[17:02:32] <tedious> Liar liar. :)
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[19:21:06] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: thanks for letting us know the petro-dollar will collapse, ivan.
[19:21:59] <sqrlgrrl> if putin were assassinated it's more likely all levels of the russian government would breathe a sigh of relief.
[19:22:49] <sqrlgrrl> because they could blame it all on putin and russia could become a global citizen again, instead of being a shameful, violent, untrustworthy pariah.
[19:23:27] <sqrlgrrl> fuck putin. may he die as soon as possible. the lousy piece of fucking garbage.
[20:05:30] <FatPhil> I can't think of a time since 1939 when Russia wasn't considered a shameful, violent, untrustworthy pariah.
[20:05:38] <FatPhil> At least here.
[20:18:12] <tedious> sqrlgrrl: Everyone you don't like is literally <strike>hitler</strike> putin?
[20:18:35] <tedious> Leftist insults are so cheap and uninspiring.
[20:20:21] <chromas> Don't worry, we'll all be millionaires soon
[20:20:35] <chromas> I wonder who will be on the hundred-quadrillion-dollar bill
[20:22:07] <chromas> Also, nice to see Ars commenters are just as dumb as ours
[20:22:21] <chromas> > Imagine if Musk puts Trump on the board. That would be nuts.
[20:22:21] <chromas> >> What is it with you people and fighting so hard for white nationalists to take over Twitter?
[20:23:14] <tedious> chromas: Elon musk is literally hitler now?
[20:24:11] <chromas> Well, apparently thinking Trump coming back to Twitter would be nuts is fighting hard for white nationalists
[20:24:54] <tedious> I guess so since everyone who marxists don't like are literally hitler all the time and forever.
[20:25:32] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: pretty sure just you.
[20:25:35] <tedious> And I gather they don't like musk because he has accomplished things without strictly adhering to marxist principles.
[20:25:52] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: does putin pay you well to troll here?
[20:26:18] <tedious> sqrlgrrl: When did I ever even begin to hint that any single person I don't like is literally hitler or putin?
[20:26:54] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: you're literally a shitty troll. do better.
[20:27:23] <sqrlgrrl> at least attempt to be slightly clever when pushing your anti-west and pro-putin bullshit.
[20:27:23] <chromas> "do better"
[20:27:36] <chromas> Didn't know we had STD writers in here. PRetty cool
[20:27:46] <tedious> Hitler is dead and although I don't trust putin to put american interests ahead of russian's and therefore he's not my ally I don't have any reason to equate him to anyone else I don't like so I haven't.
[20:28:16] <tedious> Hehe leftists accuse you of what they themselves are doing. :)
[20:28:21] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: i guess it's possible you're just an idiot.
[20:28:53] <tedious> sqrlgrrl: If it bothers you that I find some news sources that are less than rabidly anti-putin to be more accurate than the ones that supply your narratives and world view you could always provide me with better news sources.
[20:29:43] <sqrlgrrl> ok ivan. keep those rt.com articles coming. putin is proud of you. good boy.
[20:29:45] <tedious> Just be aware that I've already found some of them to be full of liars so I don't see much reason to waste any further time on them.
[20:31:04] <tedious> If all you can manage is ad hominem attacks to prop up your increasingly discredited positions I guess you'll have to find somebody to help prop up your self esteem.
[20:31:09] <sqrlgrrl> tell us again how the united states and the rest of the west will collapse into a heap because of the economic sanctions.
[20:31:18] <sqrlgrrl> tell us again how captured or destroyed russian tanks are all lies.
[20:31:43] <FatPhil> I guess the civilians shot in the back committed suicide too.
[20:31:46] <sqrlgrrl> tell us again how rt.com is more trustworthy than cnn.com
[20:32:20] <tedious> Sadly I can't get to rt.com any longer so I can't keep track of how accurate their stories are.
[20:32:40] <chromas> Yeah but you posted an NYT link and that's basically the same thing
[20:32:41] <sqrlgrrl> sadly. lol.
[20:32:46] <FatPhil> don't worry, right now they're complete garbage. you'd love them.
[20:32:52] <sqrlgrrl> such a shame you can't connect to putin's personal propaganda machine anymore.
[20:33:42] <AzumaHazuki> now i know where tedious gets his name from
[20:33:50] <tedious> It's quite curious that people who hang out on a news chat site would rather defend proven liars than investigate alternative sources of information.
[20:33:58] <AzumaHazuki> it's quite curious that fuck off, troll
[20:34:40] <sqrlgrrl> AzumaHazuki++
[20:34:40] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 87
[20:34:50] <tedious> LOL
[20:35:01] <FatPhil> The only one defending the proven liar - putin - is you. If that behaviour offends you, desist.
[20:35:02] <tedious> So stunning and brave.
[20:35:25] <AzumaHazuki> here's a clue for you, tedious: if it talks like a nazi, invades other countries like a nazi, has an ethnic-cleansing agenda like a nazi, and commits genocide like a nazi, it's a nazi
[20:35:43] <tedious> FatPhil: I don't recall defending putin but if you can show me where I have please do.
[20:35:47] <AzumaHazuki> jesus motocrossing christ, what the merciless haemorrhagic fuck is wrong with you?
[20:36:06] <FatPhil> tedious: erm, up a page? up 2 pages? up 3 pages? You do nothing but.
[20:36:36] <tedious> Are you confusing my disapproval with nato's warmongering as somehow defending putin?
[20:37:40] <tedious> My only real concern with putins safety is that if the psychopathic politicians in the west get their way and he is assasinated it would probably trigger another world war with a nuclear power.
[20:37:41] <FatPhil> No, I'm explaining that you sticking your head in the ground and saying "nothing out there that has been photographed and recorded is actually happening" is defending the perpetrator of what's happenening. Namely putin.
[20:38:07] <chromas> it's deepfakes all the way down
[20:38:10] <tedious> I see.
[20:38:57] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: putin is more likely to 'push the button' than any of his generals who probably want all this to stop.
[20:39:10] <tedious> chromas: Both sides are doing it but I objectively see more of it coming from nato and the west than I do russia.
[20:39:26] <tedious> sqrlgrrl: Citation needed.
[20:39:46] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: .....putin threatening it?
[20:40:39] <chromas> We just need to get Trump back in orifice. How many Ukraine did Russia invade while he was in?
[20:40:43] <AzumaHazuki> the one good thing to possibly come out of all this shit is people finally realizing that renewable energy is a question of national security...
[20:40:57] <AzumaHazuki> which i've seen saying since i was old enough to understand the concepts in...what, 7th grade?
[20:42:34] <sqrlgrrl> eastern europeans, including russians, are fantastic people. it's just the russian government that needs to die.
[20:44:13] <chromas> same with america, china, canadia
[20:44:40] <sqrlgrrl> yep
[20:45:02] <sqrlgrrl> floridians may be the one exception :D
[20:45:08] <sqrlgrrl> joking
[20:45:57] <chromas> they can't help it—they live in a giant landboner
[20:46:04] <sqrlgrrl> lol
[20:46:09] <chromas> of course they're gonna be dicks
[20:46:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Reverse-Engineering a Mysterious Univac Computer Board - https://sylnt.us
[20:46:17] <AzumaHazuki> please, the entire deep south should have been burned to the ground in 1865
[20:46:20] <tedious> Although that's true of the vast majority of people who claim to know exactly what putin and/or the russian military want and are doing.
[20:46:38] <AzumaHazuki> they've been, as a region, nothing but traitorous idiots leeching off the actually productive parts of the country
[20:47:58] <tedious> Well if nothing else now I see who are the actual genocidal monsters.
[20:48:11] <tedious> This has been a depressingly educational day.
[20:50:04] <AzumaHazuki> feel free to fuck entirely off and never come back
[20:50:21] <tedious> You first.
[20:50:50] <AzumaHazuki> no u
[20:51:06] <FatPhil> tedious - you seem to be overlooking the fact that you are part of "people who claim to know exactly what putin and/or the russian military want and are doing."
[20:51:25] <tedious> FatPhil: Not in the slightest.
[20:52:24] <tedious> I give some credence to some western military experts who have a history of studying and/or opposing the soviet union and later russia.
[20:53:59] <tedious> I try to compare and contrast it with what I'm hearing from other western military and foreign policy experts but unfortunately most of them have proven themselves to be liars who can't even bother keeping their stories consistent from one week to the next.
[20:55:13] <tedious> I'm surprised that you seem to be cheerleading for the nato warmongers but I suppose it makes sense as you're a guest living in estonia which could easily become another pawn in this game of thrones.
[20:56:12] <tedious> I don't have future battle lines in my back yard so I can afford to take a higher minded approach I suppose.
[20:56:28] <FatPhil> The "warmonger" is the person who invades sovereign countries.
[20:57:13] <tedious> Only from the standpoint of someone who believes history started 5 weeks ago.
[20:57:13] <FatPhil> OK, the US did way too much encouragement of the "Ukraine will join NATO" narrative, but that's not an excuse to invade said country.
[20:57:18] <FatPhil> Bullshit
[20:57:50] <tedious> I'm sorry to see that you are so dismissive of thousands of ukrainians killed over the past 8 years.
[20:59:25] <FatPhil> And you try to pretend that you've not been sucking on putin's shitnozzle? Almost everything that came out of RIA about S.E. Ukraine is fabricated, or exagerated beyond all proportion.
[21:00:16] <tedious> Considering that I wasn't even sure what ria was until you mentioned it the other day I fail to see how I've been swayed by their propaganda.
[21:01:01] <FatPhil> Thank you for proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you aelly haven't got a clue what you are talking about. How can you not know RIA?!?
[21:01:26] <tedious> I didn't read their stuff.
[21:01:50] <tedious> It's not part of any of the bots or aggregators I follow.
[21:01:52] <FatPhil> You hadn't even heard of them - that's how ignorant you were, and I presume are.
[21:02:17] <tedious> So now I'm a putin shill because I don't follow putin's main propaganda shilling outlet?
[21:02:45] <FatPhil> No, you've just proved yourself to be completely ignorant about Russia.
[21:03:09] <FatPhil> That's all I need to know how Dunning-Kruger you are.
[21:03:23] <tedious> Because I don't follow putin's main propaganda shilling outlet.
[21:03:24] <FatPhil> Thank you for doing it in public.
[21:04:08] <tedious> When have I ever claimed to be an expert?
[21:04:30] <tedious> Why else do you think I'm online asking questions?
[21:07:31] <AzumaHazuki> to troll, stir shit, and cover something wrong with your own morals...?
[21:14:02] <tedious> I hope you don't serious consider that I will ever value your opinion of me now that I've seen you suggest that america would be better off if millions of blacks in the deep south had been genocided or otherwise caused to never be born.
[21:17:06] <tedious> It saddens me to realize that you are apparently just another typical marxist type who's so miserable that you place no value on civil discussion let alone possible friendship.
[21:18:30] <tedious> But at the end of the day that's your problem not mine so I'll have to be satisfied with finding other people who are worth my time.
[21:21:54] <sqrlgrrl> tedious: did you get your Z tattoo yet?
[22:48:07] <AzumaHazuki> he can't spell it
[22:48:24] <AzumaHazuki> god, what a worthless fuckin' troll
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