#soylent | Logs for 2022-02-28
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[00:00:09] <Bytram> personally, I do NOT like that UI
[00:00:12] <FatPhil> anyway, busy morning ahead, time for bed - 'gnight all
[00:01:03] <Bytram> FatPhil: good night!
[00:01:11] <chromas> hey now, a list is just a 1d matrix
[00:02:48] <Bytram> chromas: s/1/2/
[00:02:48] <SedBot> <Bytram> <chromas> hey now, a list is just a 2d matrix
[00:03:05] <chromas> where's the other d?
[00:03:17] <chromas> "in yo mama!"
[00:03:44] <Bytram> and u have really reaccy fine lines
[00:04:05] <Bytram> and u have really really fine lines
[00:04:28] <chromas> wanna check out my curves?
[00:04:32] <chromas> they're cubic splines
[00:05:07] <Bytram> 1d = line ; 2d = plane ; 3d = volume
[00:05:21] <chromas> yes
[00:05:28] <chromas> a list is a vertical line
[00:06:15] <Runaway1956> Is chromas hitting on Bytram now?
[00:06:24] <Bytram> hey boss! It's zee plane! It's zee plane!
[00:06:39] <Bytram> ;)
[00:07:15] <Runaway1956> I kinda vaguely remember that little shrimp -
[00:07:38] <Bytram> expecting a call ; laters!
[00:07:47] <Runaway1956> later
[00:07:56] <chromas> sooner
[00:08:06] <chromas> or earlier
[00:08:13] <Runaway1956> is he from Oklahoma?
[00:08:32] <chromas> Isn't everyone?
[00:08:51] <Runaway1956> Oklahome is a nice place to be from - far away from.
[00:09:20] <Runaway1956> I remember, a lifetime ago, I thought the Cimmaron sounded romantic
[00:09:28] <Runaway1956> then I met some of the inhabitants
[00:10:25] <chromas> and it turned out you were right?
[00:10:50] <Runaway1956> If you want twenty dollars worth of romance, maybe.
[00:11:28] <chromas> I am on a budget.
[00:11:54] <Runaway1956> They aren't all bad - I've met a couple interesting people on the Cimmaron
[00:12:19] <chromas> I sprinkled some Cimmaron on my waffle
[00:12:30] <Runaway1956> GHAAAAK!
[00:12:45] <chromas> Peanut butter and berries
[00:13:04] * Runaway1956 prefers Berry Medley
[00:13:56] <chromas> Berry Medelow?
[00:14:45] <Runaway1956> You're asking to be rick rolled
[00:15:39] <chromas> Has anyone yet made a video where Never Gonna Give You Up gets interrupted by Never Gonna Give You Up?
[00:16:56] <Runaway1956> How many times can you nest it? Sounds like a project, huh?
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[00:17:17] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:17:19] <systemd> ^ 03rickroll, but it never starts 10 HOURS
[00:22:16] <tedious> I don't know if that deserves a chromas++ or chromas--. :)
[00:23:44] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[00:23:46] <systemd> ^ 03Never Gonna Give You Up but the lyrics are in alphabetical order
[00:28:24] <tedious> There seem to be a lot of videos on youtube that are of the form `something but something else'.
[00:29:58] <tedious> I don't actually use the website but other people have shared enough links that it sticks out as possibly its own subculture.
[00:33:01] <chromas> yesp
[00:33:47] <chromas> X, but every Y it speeds up, or X, but every Y is replaced with the entire Bee Movie script
[00:35:11] <tedious> There was also something about people eating onions or spoonfuls of cinnamon.
[00:35:22] <tedious> And tide pods but that's a different subculture.
[00:37:22] <chromas> (or sometimes the actual Bee Movie)
[00:37:51] <chromas> the tide pods thing was just an example of excellent, factual news reporting
[00:39:35] <tedious> You mean it wasn't a real thing on youtube but the media pretended it was?
[00:41:01] <chromas> it was a real meme
[00:42:13] <chromas> if you read the news, you might think kids were running out and stuffing their faces with 'em
[00:42:36] <chromas> https://knowyourmeme.com
[00:42:37] <systemd> ^ 03Tide POD Challenge
[00:42:44] <chromas> kym and ed always have the best articles
[00:48:08] <Runaway1956> https://www.channelnewsasia.com
[00:48:09] <systemd> ^ 03World's largest plane destroyed by Russian strikes in Ukraine
[01:00:38] <Runaway1956> https://www.newsmax.com
[01:00:40] <systemd> ^ 03Post-ABC Poll: Biden Hits Record-Low 37 Percent Approval
[01:02:56] <chromas> First, I need to find out if that site's biases match my own. Only then can I decide if I should check out the poll results.
[01:04:13] <tedious> How many people in those polls say they approve of a president only because he's in their party and they don't want to give the other party a free point?
[01:04:50] <chromas> https://www.documentcloud.org
[01:04:51] <systemd> ^ 03DocumentCloud
[01:05:36] <chromas> Well would you look at that! Poll conducted by phone. Nobody answers their phones anymore except boomers, who are notoriously anti-Bidites.
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[01:13:45] <Globohomo_NO> Putin never told me to hate myself for being White
[01:13:56] <Globohomo_NO> Putin never told my kids to take hormones and chop their dicks off
[01:14:05] <Globohomo_NO> Putin never wanted to defund our police
[01:14:31] <Globohomo_NO> Putin never locked down my country for a bullshit pandemic Jews created
[01:15:05] <Globohomo_NO> Putin never backed up corporate globohomo's brownshirt army destroying mom and pop businesses
[01:15:51] <Globohomo_NO> You know who did? Juden GLOBOHOMO
[01:16:06] <Globohomo_NO> e.g. The International Jew.
[01:16:09] <chromas> What if it really was Putin behind it all?
[01:16:50] <Globohomo_NO> If he were, then he would have not been successful without the entrenchment, domestic, of the International Jew following his orders.
[01:17:07] <chromas> Where's LaDarius?
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[01:31:44] <tedious> This article is full of slanted language but it talks about the actual situation on the ground. https://www.timesofisrael.com
[01:31:45] <systemd> ^ 03Ukraine vows ‘no capitulation’ in talks as massive Russian convoy nears Kyiv
[01:32:28] <tedious> In particular if it's true that there's a massive convoy approaching kyiv that means a significant escalation.
[01:36:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fujitsu is Ending its Mainframe and Unix Services - https://sylnt.us
[02:13:04] <tedious> Can the bot read these? https://news.yahoo.com
[02:13:11] <systemd> ^ 03Putin Finally Cops to Dead Russian Troops in Ukraine
[02:20:39] <tedious> chromas: Is soylentnews postgress or mysql? https://github.com
[02:20:40] <systemd> ^ 03GitHub - fabianlindfors/reshape: An easy-to-use, zero-downtime schema migration tool for Postgres
[03:04:36] <Bytram> tedious: yes.
[03:06:15] <Bytram> passing along a little peace that a friend sent out
[03:06:38] * Bytram wished it was longer
[03:56:21] <chromas> I wish mine was longer too
[03:56:35] <chromas> or are you talking about the peace and not piece?
[03:57:05] <chromas> tedious: worse—it's mysql cluster
[03:58:07] <chromas> I'm using postgres though. Nice find
[03:58:11] <chromas> tedious++
[03:58:11] <Bender> karma - tedious: 8
[04:25:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US, EU, UK to Sanction Russian Central Bank, Block SWIFT - https://sylnt.us
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[05:37:31] <tedious> Glad I could help. :)
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[07:17:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Finding MH370: New Breakthrough Could Finally Solve Missing Flight Mystery (Video) - https://sylnt.us
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[08:18:08] <Runawayxx1x> I am Runaway. Just not that Runaway, He's an a-hole, anyway.
[08:19:05] <Runawayxx1x> #submit https://www.un.org
[08:19:07] <systemd> ^ 03United Nations Charter (full text)
[08:23:16] <Runawayxx1x> Oh, noes! The bot is dead?
[08:32:33] <FatPhil> .kick Runawayxx1x no nick twattery
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[08:36:43] <Runawayxx1x> Twat nickery, you mean?
[08:37:00] <Runawayxx1x> Perfectly legit nick.
[08:39:37] <FatPhil> .kick Runawayxx1x
[08:39:37] -!- Runawayxx1x was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(FatPhil) No reason given]
[08:39:41] <FatPhil> .op
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[08:40:32] <Runawayxx1x> Damn it, FatPhil, just stop!
[08:40:36] -!- mode/#soylent [+b Runawayx*!*@*] by FatPhil
[08:40:44] <FatPhil> .kick Runawayxx1x no nick twattery
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[08:46:10] <FatPhil> .deop
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[08:51:44] <FatPhilxx1x> When I am kicked, it is because of no wrong behavior on my part.
[08:54:44] <inz> Someone sounds like Putin.
[08:54:56] <FatPhil> .kick FatPhilxx1x worst, you know that's a lie, you've been told many times
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[08:55:20] <FatPhil> .ban FatPhilx*!*@*
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[08:55:25] <FatPhil> .op
[08:55:25] -!- mode/#soylent [+o FatPhil] by Imogen
[08:55:29] <FatPhil> .deop
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[09:00:00] <FatPhil111x> Nothing wrong. You lie, FatPhil!
[09:00:40] <FatPhil111x> No one allowed to speak on SN, without the express permission of.
[09:01:25] <FatPhil> .ban FatPhil1*!*@*
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[09:01:31] <FatPhil> .kick FatPhil111x
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[09:02:28] <FatPhil> inz: nah, putin's the playground bully, this is some little toddler who likes painting with his own shit.
[09:02:38] <FatPhix1112> How many variations are there?
[09:02:45] <FatPhil> .kick FatPhix1112
[09:02:45] -!- FatPhix1112 was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(FatPhil) No reason given]
[09:02:50] <FatPhil> .ban FatPhix*!*@*
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[09:03:10] <FatPhil> I'll allow xxxxxxx
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[09:03:35] <FatPhirx1> Point is, at some point, Fatphil will ban himself!
[09:04:26] <FatPhil> .ban *!~b2802*@*
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[09:04:41] <FatPhil> .kick FatPhirx1 dance for me, monkey boy
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[09:11:13] <tedious> FatPhil: It's less spammy if you do an actual /kick command instead of telling the bot to do it in public with .kick.
[09:11:57] <tedious> And with that two cents worth I'm off to read more depressing news.
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[09:34:07] <janrinok> tedious, regarding your discussion about 12 hours ago about missiles from Belarus into Ukraine. A news team covering the talks between both sides that begin today on the Belorussian/Ukrainian border inadvertently filmed the missile passing overhear and commented upon it. They originated from within Belorus but there is no evidence to show _who_ actually fired them. They travelled south well into Ukraine.
[09:35:11] <janrinok> If I recall the footage correctly - it was shown on BBC and French TV - there were a total of 3 missiles filmed. I do not know how many were fired.
[09:36:41] <inz> FatPhil, sure, but the rhetoric just sounded similar-ish... Great, now I've got Tones and I playing in my head...
[10:03:20] <FatPhil> I'm pleased to admit that means nothing to me
[10:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GPU Giant Nvidia is Investigating a Potential Cyberattack - https://sylnt.us
[10:12:35] <inz> FatPhil, I do quite like her song ”Dance Monkey”, just don't like having it constantly occupying my awareness.
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[12:56:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - USPS Blows Off EPA, White House Requests to Reconsider Postal Vehicle Contract - https://sylnt.us
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[15:37:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drones Used to Identify Pregnant Dolphins - https://sylnt.us
[15:40:29] <Runaway1956> Here's a fantastical headline - https://www.businessinsider.co.za
[15:40:32] <systemd> ^ 03The Kremlin ordered 400 Russian mercenaries in Kyiv to hunt and kill Ukraine's president - report
[15:41:15] <Runaway1956> We're to believe that there are 400 assassins in Kiev, alone,
[15:42:02] <Runaway1956> That, in addition to whatever regular military units are trying to get into the city
[15:45:18] <FatPhil> is that a followup to, or a rewording of, or a recycling of, the chechen assassins story from a few days back?
[15:54:40] <Runaway1956> I'm not sure Fatphil
[15:55:19] <Runaway1956> Have any Aussies been heard from? 'Straya seems to be submerged right now.
[15:55:27] <Runaway1956> https://www.9news.com.au
[15:55:28] <systemd> ^ 03Desperate NSW residents await rescue after 'unprecedented' flooding
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[16:00:34] <Runaway1956> another silly headline - https://thenextweb.com
[16:00:35] <systemd> ^ 03Russia’s ramping up its censorship
[16:00:43] <Runaway1956> Big Tech loves censorship!
[17:03:55] <FatPhil> Hit'em hard: https://i.imgur.com
[17:28:14] <chromas> rip linux
[17:28:30] <chromas> how will Finns maintain their Ballmer Peak?
[17:37:30] <FatPhil> Koffid-19
[17:41:10] <inz> FatPhil++
[17:41:10] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 170
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[18:17:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Imager Microchip Helps Devices Bring Hidden Objects to Light - https://sylnt.us
[18:19:47] <FatPhil> does this work for anyone? https://liveuamap.com
[18:19:49] <systemd> ^ 03Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather related stories, among others, from a vast array of sources.
[18:20:21] <FatPhil> works better for the bot than for me, I get a 502 bad gateway
[18:20:32] <janrinok> nope for me
[18:20:50] <FatPhil> but that's probably just cloudflare being cnuts.
[18:21:00] <janrinok> cloudflare error
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[18:23:31] <tedious> Can we just cancel cloudflare and get back to having an internet that works?
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[18:26:16] <FatPhil> but cloudflare would get lonely on its own, we'd need to chuck google in there with it to keep it company - Make Usenet Usenet Again!
[18:30:47] <tedious> If you insist. :)
[18:32:30] <janrinok> gets my vote too
[18:34:40] <FatPhil> this is failing in a similar but slightly different way: https://kyivindependent.com
[18:34:40] <systemd> ^ 03Just a moment...
[18:35:02] <FatPhil> it's great to have a selection of abject failures to chose from
[18:35:14] <FatPhil> nope, that's not a dig at the US political system
[18:35:32] <tedious> Cloudflare really is toxic.
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[18:46:50] <janrinok> FatPhil, that map is now loading
[18:48:34] <FatPhil> I just clicked reload and it failed the same way ... so you must have broken it!
[18:49:55] <FatPhil> This is our UA ambassador's official account: https://preview.redd.it
[18:51:51] <janrinok> when it is working it is a useful map - I suspect it cannot cope with the load
[18:53:13] <janrinok> Its working well for me at the moment
[19:00:13] <tedious> Well if anybody wants to take notes on this war they'll have some good ideas for what to do for the next one such as ddos all the sites that say what you don't like.
[19:00:35] <tedious> Or pause your stock market once hostilities break out.
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[19:04:52] <janrinok> Looks like the Belorus Air Assault Bde are about to dash down the west side of Ukraine to cut off any escape to Europe and to secure the gas and oil reserves there.
[19:05:39] <janrinok> And, of course, stop any EU weapons from entering the country
[19:07:21] <Bytram> FatPhil: janrinok: was mostly blank. enabled ( in NoScript ): liveuamap.com and left 6 other entries NOT opened, and saw a map displayed...
[19:07:57] <Bytram> can scroll to zoom in/out
[19:08:04] <janrinok> I've not had to change my NoScript settings and it works fine for me
[19:08:34] <Bytram> that's for: https://liveuamap.com
[19:08:36] <systemd> ^ 03Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather related stories, among others, from a vast array of sources.
[19:08:46] <janrinok> but they are quite lenient on this particular browser.
[19:09:45] <janrinok> Bytram, understood. The problem here was cloudflare not being able to cope
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[19:18:45] <FatPhil> https://scontent-hel3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[19:19:38] <janrinok> lol
[19:23:09] <Bytram> doesn't the internet routes around damage?
[19:24:44] <Bytram> we have been spoiled for so long -- maybe try a hard reload of the page with Ctrl+F5
[19:24:53] <tedious> Not anymore.
[19:25:21] <janrinok> if the only gateway to your site is Cloudflare - then it has to work
[19:25:24] <tedious> The internet was taken over by a few big tech companies and now they can choke it whenever they want.
[19:25:38] <FatPhil> the internet cannot protect itself against a website that wants to be damaged.
[19:31:14] <tedious> FatPhil: The whole anti-ddos industry is a scam though.
[19:31:58] <tedious> If you don't have anti-ddos services and one of the providers likes cloudflare notices then your chances of being ddos'ed seems to go up.
[19:32:24] <tedious> In the case of some of the smaller companies it's been documented that they do that exactly.
[19:32:55] <tedious> Brian krebs the security reporter has documented it and I think at least one of the smaller guys was prosecuted for it.
[19:33:01] <Bytram> FatPhil: "the X cannot protect itself against a Y that wants to be damaged." ??
[19:33:37] <tedious> Bytram: As in cloudflare customers are doing it to themselves.
[19:34:49] <tedious> You sign up with cloudflare to protect your website but you also give them control over it.
[19:35:14] <tedious> So cloudflare can shut you down with one mouse click for any reason or no reason at all.
[19:35:52] <tedious> So the internet can't protect you and route around the damage if you signed up for the damage in the first place.
[19:36:35] <Bytram> dunno -- just had that thought, so threw it out there for feedback, etc.
[21:07:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Opens Second Phase of $5 Million Lunar Power Prize Competition - https://sylnt.us - get-some-cash!
[21:12:07] <Runaway1956> That map is pretty cool, but after loading a few pages, I get bad gateway error https://liveuamap.com
[21:12:08] <systemd> ^ 03Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons deployment, health matters, natural disasters, and weather related stories, among others, from a vast array of sources.
[21:31:25] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[21:31:25] <systemd> ^ 03Wife calls marriage ‘insane,’ hates her husband: ‘Snoring heap of meat’
[21:39:38] <FatPhil> Americans: which bit of the chicken is the "boneless" wing?
[21:51:40] <Runaway1956> I don't think it's chicken at all. The abortion clinics have to dispose of excess meaty tissue somewhere.
[22:08:49] <tedious> Ugh pleaase don't.
[22:12:39] <tedious> That link is pure clickbait btw.
[22:12:49] <tedious> She doesn't hate her husband at all.
[22:15:28] <Runaway1956> I had to post my weekly quota of clickbait tedious
[22:16:04] <Runaway1956> Just had an idea:
[22:16:14] <Runaway1956> The world is questioning Putin's sanity
[22:16:26] <Runaway1956> We all question Biden's senility
[22:16:41] <Runaway1956> can't we just put them both in the same asylum? They can share a room!
[22:18:56] <tedious> Who would replace them?
[22:22:08] <FatPhil> if the room's big enough, and there's a conveyor belt with a capacity high enough, and we get get them sent to the room before they sign any undemocratic executive orders, I'm sure we can get rid of the few million psychopaths and eventually find someone with a conscience and a moral compass.
[22:22:32] <FatPhil> ("few" may be an underestimation)
[22:35:36] <tedious> Isn't there a way to do an mri scan on a human and figure out if they're a psychopath?
[22:41:42] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:41:44] <systemd> ^ 03Glioblastoma - Wikipedia
[22:42:12] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:42:13] <systemd> ^ 03Charles Whitman - Wikipedia
[22:46:06] <tedious> Oh no that was a fluke wasn't it?
[22:47:03] <tedious> I meant other things that show up in a brain scan that correlate with psychopaths or murderers or anti-social types.
[22:51:41] <FatPhil> I'd say we've witnessed a change in behaviour, and thefore a change inside the skull might be responsible.
[22:52:57] <FatPhil> This set of moves has no good outcome. He was always smarter than that. Maybe he was played by Xi with their "friendship of no bounds" agreement?
[22:56:44] <Runaway1956> Friendship of no bounds means they share Winnie the Pooh action dolls?
[23:02:02] <tedious> Oh ok I was speaking generally not just about joe biden.
[23:02:09] <tedious> I think he's just senile.
[23:02:56] <tedious> But bad people having brain scans that show something abnormal is a thing if I'm remembering correctly.
[23:09:12] <FatPhil> holes can be detected too
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