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[00:07:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Suggests That Piracy is Appealing Once Again - https://sylnt.us - inconvenient-convenience
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[02:55:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inside “Project Tinman”: Peloton’s Plan to Conceal Rust in its Exercise Bikes - https://sylnt.us
[04:30:53] <Runaway1956> https://www.thedrive.com
[04:30:53] <systemd> ^ 03Russia's Major Military Operation Against Ukraine Has Begun (Updated)
[04:31:19] <Runaway1956> I can't say whether that is credible reporting, or sensationalism.
[04:33:06] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[04:33:07] <systemd> ^ 03Putin warns of ‘consequences’ over foreign attempts to stop him as he invades Ukraine
[04:33:26] <Runaway1956> Ditto the above
[04:38:01] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[04:38:02] <systemd> ^ 03US responds to Russia’s operation in Donbass
[04:40:02] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[04:40:03] <systemd> ^ 03Gunfire, explosions heard in Kiev moments after Putin declares invasion of Ukraine
[05:16:05] <AzumaHazuki> christ
[05:16:21] <Runaway1956> Offhand, it looks like Russia plans to take all of the donbass, right down to Odessa
[05:16:55] <Runaway1956> Nothing to indicate what they plan to try holding, longer term
[05:18:07] <Runaway1956> Explosions around Kiev are probably just military depots being destroyed, zero indication that troops are moving into Kiev area
[05:35:02] <Runaway1956> Jesus the rhetoric - everything OUR people are saying about Putin, was true of the US when we invaded Iraq - but none of the idiots sees the parallels
[05:45:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientific Study on Inequality in Online Privacy - https://sylnt.us
[06:00:31] <tedious> How about when we tore apart yugoslavia?
[06:01:19] <tedious> I see lots of sites talking about this speech putin gave a few hours ago but nobody is actually providing a link or a copy of the video.
[06:01:25] <Runaway1956> Didn't we use rubber bullets and nonlethal stuff in Yugoslavia?
[06:01:39] <tedious> Yeah right.
[06:02:10] <tedious> We dropped marshmallow bombs on their water treatment and power plants and loved them to death.
[06:02:31] <Runaway1956> The live streams I'm finding on Youtube are mostly empty headed prattling
[06:05:50] <Runaway1956> I like the rhetoric, Ukraine has "top notch military" "well trained" yada yada yada
[06:06:11] <Runaway1956> just like the modern Chinese Navy, you can't know their caliber until they are tested
[06:21:18] <tedious> Everything else is corrupt in their government.
[06:22:02] <tedious> I'm sure their military is just fine.
[06:22:32] <tedious> After all they needed to beg for american missiles.
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[06:24:06] <tedious> https://twitter.com
[06:24:40] <didymus> Vlad1956. I had no idea they shared a birthday.
[06:31:02] <AzumaHazuki> wwwwwelp. Putin seems to have started blowing shit up
[06:48:10] <Runaway1956> Oh, hai there Ari
[06:55:56] <didymus> Hi, there, Vlad1956! How's the treason paying out for you?
[06:57:35] <Runaway1956> I'm sure that you are familiar with treason aridymus
[07:00:12] <didymus> Are you asking, quite explicitly, for some one to dox your traitorious ass? Because any on SoylentNews before the "purge" still have the "information". And you seem to be doubling down as a Russian shill.
[07:00:58] <Runaway1956> Bite my arse, ari - your threats mean close to nothing
[07:01:13] <Runaway1956> Do you really think that you can hurt me in some way?
[07:01:42] <didymus> Not Ari, not threats. You chose your own alliances, and violations of your oaths.
[07:02:29] <Runaway1956> Any dead Greeks showing up on Soylent are almost certainly arisockalus
[07:03:20] <Runaway1956> So, back to the question at hand - do you really think you can hurt me?
[07:04:10] <didymus> You are too stupid, and ignorant, and too much of a moron, to respond to. I have already cut you to the quick, you idiot! Try that
[07:04:24] <didymus> background check, again.
[07:04:32] * Runaway1956 looks around, trying to find his wounded quick
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[07:05:51] <didymus> Can't find it, eh? Must have fallen off.
[07:06:38] <Runaway1956> So, you have nothing to hurt me with, other than vague threats of having me SWATTED
[07:07:05] <Runaway1956> You do realize that this isn't Los Angeles, or Elizabeth City, or even Portland
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[07:08:27] <quietus> Russia has invaded Ukraine. I've put a sub on the subs queue. Can somebody of the editors check it out?
[07:09:12] <didymus> sSo all your accusations of doxxing, and phishing attacks, and things that could harm you, are false? Not surprising.
[07:10:14] <Runaway1956> Accusations? No, just some basic facts.
[07:10:46] <Runaway1956> The harder you attempt to irritate me, the more tempted I am to contact law enforcement about it.
[07:11:21] <Runaway1956> Haven't done so yet, but the option is open.
[07:14:32] <didymus> You are already irritated, Runaway, because you live in a country that is changing around you. Non-whites will soon be in a majority. Gun nuts will soon be in a minority. And Racist MOtther_plucking misogynists like yourself, well, they will not be welcome.
[07:14:44] <Runaway1956> India Today live stream looks interesting -
[07:15:51] <Runaway1956> You're completely wrong on the gun nuts bit - Democrats are arming up, women are arming up, blacks are arming up, everyone is buying guns.
[07:16:05] <Runaway1956> The rest of your rant is pretty meaningless
[07:16:30] <didymus> Notice you hang out here, with your friend FatPhil, because your journal submissions get totally trashed. FatPhil cannot protect you forever, Racist cracker Trailer Trash White boy.
[07:16:58] <Runaway1956> I see - trashing other people's journals is a matter of pride with you?
[07:20:12] <didymus> Your journals are trash, everyone knows that. Now, Fuck yourself up your own anus, please? For the Good of SoylentNews.
[07:30:39] <Runaway1956> No thanks, diddlemus
[07:31:22] <didymus> We would all thank you, if you just shut the fuck up. You posts are not useful.
[07:32:19] <Runaway1956> lol, like, you think you are somehow useful to - - - whom?
[07:33:48] <didymus> You imagine, in your paranoid delusional state, that I am someone whom I am not? I speak as a generic Soylentil. You are a liability for this site.
[07:34:14] <Runaway1956> as I've already said, any dead Greeks on SN are almost certainly ari
[07:38:58] <didymus> Like Aristotle Anassis? Husband to Jackie ex-Kennedy? He is not Ari. And neither am I. Ari is in your head, Runaway, infesting your brain. I see him on the treeline, with a wet squad ready to take you out. Or, that i just your paranoid braine working overtime because you know you have betrayed your oaths, and your own country! Tell us more about the Ruskies, Vlad1956!
[07:39:32] <chromas> You're helping him out. Once he realizes his pattern of dead greeks, he's going to go stealth
[07:39:36] <chromas> by switching to dead romans
[07:40:16] <Runaway1956> Poor ari won't help himself out of the septic tank if I throw him a rope
[07:40:51] <Runaway1956> He would really screw us up if he switched to dead persians though
[07:41:24] <didymus> Better than brain dead Arkansas Men! Welcome to the club, chromas!
[07:42:17] <AzumaHazuki> do i even want to know what a "wet squad" is?
[07:42:17] <chromas> oh, no, I'm straight, but thanks for the offer
[07:43:23] <chromas> I think a wet squad is when you use too much lube in the greek bathhouse
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[07:47:14] <chromas> he must've slipped on all that lube and fell right off the internet
[07:47:23] <chromas> hopefully he died
[07:47:48] <Runaway1956> lol
[07:48:09] <Runaway1956> Ari read "wet squad" in one of his spy thrillers.
[07:49:28] <chromas> it sounds like one of those terms a crime drama would invent to sound cool, like "unsub" or "gooey interface"
[07:49:59] <Runaway1956> I think maybe the mafia has used the term, or at least novels about the mafia
[07:50:52] <chromas> anyway he probably meant wet squat, at least that's what I think of when he talks
[07:51:37] <Runaway1956> You mean he's threatening me with AOC and her squat squad? Now I'm SKEEERED!
[07:52:45] <Runaway1956> *sigh* Every single live stream from Ukraine shows the same view of the town square in Kiev
[07:53:42] <chromas> that's how you know it's staged
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[08:05:21] <GhostofAristarchus> G'day, all.
[08:06:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia Has Launched Full Scale Invasion of Ukraine - BBC - https://sylnt.us
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[08:12:10] <GhostofAristarchus> Seems the Editorial stance on WWIII is clear? In line with Her Majesties Imperialist Whatever.
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[08:16:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Russia Has Launched Full Scale Invasion of Ukraine - Multiple Sources - https://sylnt.us
[08:17:32] <GhostofAristarchus> Bender, Twice? Why?
[08:18:21] <janrinok> Each update will get releases by Bender.
[08:18:30] <janrinok> *released
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[08:38:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EV Coach Drives From California to Seattle and Back Using Public Chargers - https://sylnt.us - to-infinity-and-beyond
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[08:51:06] <boru> Seems like a lot of VPN services are also offline today. Interesting.
[08:56:10] <GhostofAristarchus> Interesting, or, curious?
[08:56:31] <boru> A bit of both.
[08:57:22] <GhostofAristarchus> Disruption of communication can only mean one thing. And the internet was designed to route around that one thing?
[08:57:46] <boru> No VPNs probably means communications are easier to analyse.
[08:59:51] <boru> But yeah, it also stops the flow of information. I've fired up my SDRs to see if I catch anything throughout today.
[09:00:04] <GhostofAristarchus> Oh, dear! Where do you think I am coming from?
[09:02:53] <boru> Makes me wonder whose pocket they're in.
[09:03:02] <boru> Well, not much in the way of wondering.
[09:03:20] <boru> Nor would I trust those commercial VPN providers, anyway.
[09:10:18] <Runaway1956> The mayor of Mariupal has announced that the schools will be closed today. I'm glad to hear that the civil authorities are on top of things.
[09:11:20] <boru> For the celebrations or what?
[09:11:58] <GhostofAristarchus> What you talking 'bout, Vlad1956? Schools in Arkansas closed?
[09:12:12] <Runaway1956> I think the man is staying pretty noncommital - he doesn't want to be a collaborator or anything
[09:14:01] <boru> Plenty of radio traffic today, that's for sure.
[09:21:00] <Runaway1956> OK, I'm mildly surprised
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[09:21:35] <Runaway1956> The armor that came in from the north, is supposedly moving toward Kiev, rather than south and easterly.
[09:22:27] <Runaway1956> I can't see that the Russians want to go into Kiev with armor . . . doesn't feel right.
[09:22:35] <boru> Makes sense. Apparently they've been attacking ethnic Russians there.
[09:22:54] <boru> At least, according to the Russians, if you can believe that.
[09:23:14] <boru> The Russian media are spinning it as much as the west, naturally.
[09:23:43] <Runaway1956> Naturally - no one wants to fight other people, but it's alright to fight monsters
[09:23:43] <boru> They've told the Ukrainians defending Ukraine to surrender against an invading army and that the decision for bloodshed is "now in their hands".
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[09:24:44] <boru> Imagine being asked to stop defending your country from invasion.
[09:25:19] <Runaway1956> You can expect it to have some effect. How much effect remains to be seen.
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[09:25:33] <boru> Given their history, I doubt it.
[09:25:39] <janrinok> Remember Prague?
[09:25:54] <Runaway1956> Which year, jan?
[09:26:15] <janrinok> Tanks on the streets are typical
[09:28:31] <GhostofAristarchus> Jan, do you remember Hungary? The Sudetenland? Chamberlain's complicity?
[09:28:49] <Runaway1956> Zelensky speaking live - interpretor sounds very nervous
[09:29:05] <Runaway1956> or maybe not the best of English speakers
[09:32:07] <FatPhil> The RT ranslator for his big announcement a couple of days back was clearly making shit up (or the original script was garbage too)
[09:32:45] <FatPhil> I'd of course expect nothing but discombobulation from RT right now.
[09:38:03] <FatPhil> Great timing from old Vlad... https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:38:03] <systemd> ^ 03Independence Day (Estonia) - Wikipedia
[09:38:35] <FatPhil> That's the reason there were tanks out last night, they were setting up a display on our Freedom Square.
[09:39:00] <Runaway1956> Whose tanks, Estonia's own tanks, right?
[09:39:15] <Runaway1956> Or, did France invade Estonia?
[09:40:00] <FatPhil> Yup, local tanks. We do have a range of NATO forces in the country presently - more than usual ;-)
[09:40:38] <boru> Every country does: https://www.aljazeera.com
[09:40:39] <FatPhil> I think there are some Welsh tanks trundling through Poland right now on their way up north to join them.
[09:41:31] <FatPhil> boru: that's just the permanent deployments, there's way more than that
[09:41:58] <boru> Yeah, I know.
[09:46:48] <GhostofAristarchus> Runaway, former US Navy supply clerk, and expert on strategic movements in a land war in Europe! Ha! Not impressed.
[09:51:51] <GhostofAristarchus> GhostofAristarchus being ghost kicked
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[10:03:36] <Runaway1956> Voldemort sez, "If you can lift a weapon, we need you on the front lines!"
[10:05:11] <Runaway1956> near-quote from some random dude: "No one could have predicted that Russia would strike so many separate targets so quickly"
[10:05:31] <Runaway1956> That would be a LOL if lives werent involved
[10:05:35] <FatPhil> All wars are bankers' wars. Sieze their assets abroad first. Moving humans around is slow.
[10:05:45] <FatPhil> Reclaim Chelsea FC!
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[10:06:55] <FatPhil> I reckon we should fuck over Belarus for shits and giggles, and then rebuild a greater Lithuanian empire again.
[10:07:47] <FatPhil> Make Gediminas proud.
[10:08:11] <Runaway1956> I don't even recognize that name phil
[10:08:23] <Runaway1956> I guess he was Lithuanian?
[10:08:36] <FatPhil> Leader of the largest empire in the world at the time, pretty much
[10:09:37] <Runaway1956> Grand duke gediminas?
[10:09:43] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:09:45] <systemd> ^ 03File:Grand Duchy of Lithuania 1430.png - Wikipedia
[10:10:06] <FatPhil> If we redraw the boundaries there, UA becomes NATO de facto.
[10:10:18] <Runaway1956> Beady eyes - I don't trust him!
[10:10:38] <FatPhil> Apart from the runty bit in the East. Whose silly idea was that bit?
[10:10:43] <FatPhil> Oh, another Vlad.
[10:11:23] <FatPhil> There's something with that name, isn't there.
[10:11:41] <Runaway1956> Isn't it another Greek name?
[10:13:05] <FatPhil> Most are, but I don't think that one is, classic Slavic name, IIRC
[10:13:33] <Runaway1956> But, but, but, I thought everything civilized came from Greece!
[10:14:18] <FatPhil> many are Semitic of course
[10:15:01] * FatPhil loved seeing "This is Sparta" T-shirts on sale in tourist shops in Athens.
[10:15:18] <Runaway1956> lol
[10:15:18] <FatPhil> History, motherhumper
[10:19:24] <Runaway1956> Andy Kozmenko busy badmouthing Russia - another Greek!
[10:22:50] <FatPhil> -enko is a biiiig UA flag
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[10:31:13] <Runaway1956> Jazeera rolled video of the most recent missile strike in Kiev - helluva big explosion, looked like half a MOAB
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[10:39:07] <FatPhil> But Russia said that there were no attacks on civilian population centres. Al Jazeera must be photoshopping everything!
[10:39:31] <Runaway1956> Oh boy - Kuzmenko making a case to kick Russia out of UN security council - good luck with that!
[10:40:06] <FatPhil> Can we get rid of the US too?
[10:40:24] <Runaway1956> lol - shall we go for China too?
[10:46:28] <FatPhil> That would make it 60% better. Why stop there?
[10:47:13] <FatPhil> Ooooh, military jets overhead. I hope they're friendly
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[11:16:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Developers Discuss Deprecating & Removing ReiserFS - https://sylnt.us
[11:33:55] <FatPhil> I see blue and yellow ribbons on some of the army bods here
[11:59:17] <FatPhil> protest outside the Russian consulate in the centre of town too.
[12:02:36] <FatPhil> I presume there's one at the embassy too.
[12:04:01] <FatPhil> our office is attached to the Ukrainian orthadox church in town, I presume there will be more than usual bell ringing.
[14:06:01] <janrinok> =cite
[14:06:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Says Rover Discovered Glass Spheres on the Dark Side of the Moon - https://sylnt.us - anyone-for-a-game-of-marbles?
[14:06:16] <janrinok> bot not working anywhere
[14:10:58] <FatPhil> bots--
[14:10:58] <Bender> karma - bots: -74
[14:14:07] <janrinok> FatPhil, they are very useful for editing though.....
[14:43:46] <FatPhil> new table: http://fatphil.org
[14:51:30] <janrinok> chromas, ping, bots are not working
[15:10:31] <FatPhil> One day, hear knock on door. Man ask “Who is?” “Is potato man, I come around to give free potato.” Man is very excite and opens door. Is not potato man, is secret police.
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[15:42:26] <Bytram> chromas++ bots!
[15:42:26] <Bender> karma - chromas: 420
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[15:46:15] <Bytram> systemd: ping!
[15:47:27] <chromas> systemd: ping
[15:47:31] <chromas> fpos
[15:47:37] <chromas> =ping
[15:47:38] <systemd> Pong!
[15:47:49] <chromas> fpos
[15:48:08] <Bytram> but a very USEFUL ome!
[15:48:20] <Bytram> but a very USEFUL one!
[15:48:28] <chromas> I've got this fpos lenovo laptop that works perfectly fine with wondows
[15:49:36] <chromas> linux installation media mostly works, but once installed to ssd, it locks up all the time in various ways, from just sudo locking up to no virtual terminals, or sometimes it won't even get to login screen
[15:49:56] <Bytram> so far as you know
[15:49:58] <FatPhil> lenovo's normally pretty linux friendly, I'm guessing it's an i915 intel GPU?
[15:50:19] <FatPhil> intel's GPUs are pure garbage
[15:50:52] <chromas> at least they have open sauce driver
[15:51:00] <chromas> not sure what intel it is, but it also has the nvidia
[15:51:24] <chromas> if I go into the firmware and set it to nvidia-only it still does it
[15:52:06] <chromas> was using arch; I wonder what they have on the installer that I don't. got the intel µcode package and everything
[15:52:18] <Bytram> chromas: FatPhil Am under the weather today -- need your help today to do site stuff!!!
[15:53:01] <Bytram> janrinok: cannot do it alone!
[15:53:40] <chromas> it actually ran perfect for almost an hour maybe. had blender running, rendering with intel+nvidia gpus at the same time (supposedly)
[15:55:31] <Bytram> how do you KNOW though
[15:55:53] <FatPhil> the smell
[15:56:37] <Bytram> really, I am struggling today. Please help
[15:57:43] <chromas> maybe I should try one of the shithole distros like debian
[15:57:47] <chromas> =yt vice shithole
[15:57:48] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Newscasters Do Their Best To Respond To Trump’s ”Shithole“ Comments (01:15; 180,649 views; 👍4,555 👎[hidden by butthurt Google employees])
[16:00:42] <Runaway1956> Chromas - you might give Elive a quick spin, see how that works
[16:00:50] <Runaway1956> Those who drive it, seem to love it
[16:02:19] <chromas> Never heard of it, but I'll give it ago after I post some copypasta on the site
[16:02:43] <chromas> god I hate research news articles
[16:02:58] <Runaway1956> I really like it, alas, it doesn't have MacBook drivers
[16:06:41] <chromas> "The fart, created by Dr. Zstein PhD, sennior executive vice admiral of putech of newfoundland in Canada and Dr. Eppilepsy, professor of scientological stuides and assistant baskbetball coach of rankfurst institute in Burbank Indiana Ohio, was rank"
[16:27:45] <chromas> my browser says I have heard of elive
[16:27:52] <chromas> looks like debian with E
[16:46:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Revealed: Credit Suisse Leak Unmasks Criminals, Fraudsters and Corrupt Politicians - https://sylnt.us
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[17:10:44] <FatPhil> "Corrupt politicians", or "politicians" as I like to call them.
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[17:13:40] <chromas> opensuse works. unfortunately, that leaves me with opensuse
[17:13:53] <chromas> those germans make a distro efficient at pissing me off
[17:14:10] <chromas> wtf is sudo set to use root, and then the root password is set to user pass?
[17:29:51] <FatPhil> historically, suse was good for esoteric drivers - they supported my DEC Alpha's quirky gfx card back in the 90s
[17:31:08] <FatPhil> you should see some proprietory onboard linuxes in NASes and routers, some are way crankier than that.
[17:32:40] <FatPhil> my NAS has "passwd" removed - you have to use a different program that changes multiple account passwds simultaniously.
[17:33:09] <FatPhil> my NAS is a PoS
[17:33:40] <chromas> I've heard of people using tivos for nas, but why would you use a pos? :D
[17:34:20] <chromas> installed nvidia blob. Let's see what happens next
[17:34:29] <FatPhil> got it 2nd hand, for basically the price of the dive
[17:34:31] <chromas> fonts got gigantic
[17:34:32] <FatPhil> drive
[17:35:10] <FatPhil> little did I know that the h/w and embeddid OS would *decrease* its value
[17:44:08] <FatPhil> have been thinking of just pulling it out and sticking it off a Pi, but I suspect that would be as slow as molasses in january.
[17:46:38] <chromas> maybe you can install gentoo
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[18:22:04] <FatPhil> i did look into flashing a real linux, gentooo would do, but it appeared high risk.
[18:22:47] <FatPhil> success depends on the parity of the sub-sub-version number modulo pi times the square root of the phase of the moon.
[19:26:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Suggests It Doesn't Own the Rocket Debris Poised to Collide With the Moon - https://sylnt.us
[22:07:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Airbus and GE to Test Hydrogen-Powered Turbofan - https://sylnt.us - fart-powered-engine-not-considered,-again
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[22:40:10] <Runaway1956> OK - new fridge has been brought home, placed into the kitchen, doors replaced, plugged in, all ready to go except hooking up the water.
[22:40:41] <Runaway1956> Old one was 25 cu ft, this one is 27.4 cu ft, so it grew almost 10%
[22:41:16] <Runaway1956> Fits right into the same place, there's just a wee bit less room to either side
[22:41:43] <Runaway1956> also, plugged into a brand new surge protector slash power strip
[22:43:14] <Runaway1956> Now, I have a nonfunctioning refrigerator sitting in the yard, which I just KNOW will invite idiots to put bullet holes into it.
[22:43:40] <Runaway1956> Gotta dispose of it in some responsible manner before it becomes a target.
[22:46:03] <FatPhil> OK, our parliament building is now lit up in blue and yellow
[22:46:59] <FatPhil> I went to a georgian restaurant for lunch today, and the card terminal operated in russian. "you really don't get it" was the first thing that went through my mind.
[22:47:44] <FatPhil> I mean, the food was fantastic, but for god's sake stop sucking russian dick.
[22:49:16] <Runaway1956> You mean Russian blue and Russian yellow?
[22:49:30] <Runaway1956> I would just pretend that it's Navy blue and gold
[22:50:28] <Runaway1956> Ahhhh, Ukraine blue and Ukraine yellow
[22:50:42] <Runaway1956> but why Russian?
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[23:15:36] <SoyCow7074> Yes, Goyim, pick up your rifles and die for corporate globohomo!
[23:15:52] <SoyCow7074> Protect the foreign bioweapons labs!
[23:16:11] <SoyCow7074> Protect the foreign holdings and salaries of the Biden and Pelosi families!
[23:17:01] <SoyCow7074> Fire up the bot-farms and Low-orbit Ion Cannon! For climate change!
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[23:21:06] <Runaway1956> DW News projecting that Kiev could fall in the next 24 hours.
[23:52:50] <FatPhil> before Sleepy Joe wakes up, certainly
[23:53:26] <Runaway1956> That's unfair FatPhil! Biden has had harsh words for Putin. Now it's time for another nap.
[23:54:27] <Runaway1956> Still watching DW News - they bemoaning the fact that Germany's bundeswher is weak - and there's a real problem
[23:54:55] <Runaway1956> If it's the EU, then there should be an EU armed forces, and national forces should be equal to our National Guard