#soylent | Logs for 2022-02-07
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[00:27:16] <chromas> Is that how you flush a buffer?
[00:28:17] <FatPhil> Excuse me, I just need to empty the splash cache.
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[00:29:10] <FatPhil> ewwww
[00:29:17] <chromas> there are desktop youtube programs you can use in place of the web page
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[00:29:26] <chromas> minitube, smtube
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[01:36:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Oil Facilities Hit by Cyber-Attacks - https://sylnt.us
[01:58:39] <halibut> Pretty interesting about the 5 gold rings in the 12 days of Christmas referring to birds. The Wikipedia article on the song ( https://en.wikipedia.org(song)#Gold_rings ) suggests the original meaning is under some doubt, but still, something new I learned.
[01:58:41] <systemd> ^ 03The Twelve Days of Christmas (song) - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org(song) )
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[04:38:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earth Has More Tree Species Than We Thought - https://sylnt.us - How-many-trees-can-YOU-identify-or-name?
[05:56:53] <chromas> But are there ring tree species?
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[07:16:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EC Proposes New Directive to Improve Gig Economy Work Conditions - https://sylnt.us
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[07:28:39] <Eratosthenes> Here is what I have heard throught the grapevine. Aristarchus is filing a suit with the EU Court of Human Rights, alleging infringement of his rigths to free speech, based upon hearsay and the testimony of a known liar and anti vaxxer. Juristdiction is claimed by the residence of several of the principles (Admins and editors of SN) within the European Union. Just got real.
[07:41:27] <Eratosthenes> Oh, and nice that both EF and Runaway can still post here.
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[08:26:26] <NobodyParticular> Was wondering what the advantages of registering a username were.
[08:30:20] <NobodyParticular> Anybody home?
[08:30:56] <boru> Where?
[08:31:00] <boru> On IRC or the website?
[08:33:08] <NobodyParticular> Well, website?
[08:34:30] <boru> Becoming a part of the community, I suppose.
[08:34:39] <boru> Same as everywhere else.
[08:35:26] <NobodyParticular> Seems to be a lot of Anonymous posters. Why not just do that?
[08:41:42] <boru> Gee, I wonder which registered user you are who came here to soapbox.
[08:46:56] <NobodyParticular> Huh?
[08:48:40] <NobodyParticular> I have been poking around the website, and here, and it seems that there is this kind of paranoia, with everyone being accused of being someone else? What it going on? I just asked if there were advantages to having a username.
[08:49:32] <NobodyParticular> Besides, I don't see "boru" on the website. Why? Real question, related to my first one.
[08:52:18] <boru> Real answer: it's none of yoru business.
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[08:53:24] <NobodyParticular> OK. So no answer, other than "community", to my original question? OK.
[08:57:07] <boru> It's obvious you're being purposely obtuse, in case it wasn't obvious to you.
[08:57:28] <NobodyParticular> Again, huh?
[08:58:45] <NobodyParticular> Is there someone else that could answer my question?
[08:59:09] <janrinok> .kick NobodyParticular being a dick
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[09:00:42] <boru> At least my very clever trick has stopped _one_ user from connecting my IRC nick to my SN moniker, b0ru.
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[09:08:11] <Niggle> 6054? Public logs, you know.
[09:09:10] <boru> I'm not worried, in this instance. I think there's just one instance where I use the same moniker.
[09:09:13] <Niggle> Rather testy around here, of late.
[09:09:45] <Niggle> Wise move. Some soylentils could learn a thing or two from you.
[09:09:47] <boru> Plus I don't think I've really participated in discussion much for a few years.
[09:10:12] <Niggle> Been on here a fair bit, of late.
[09:10:24] <boru> They're welcome to try where many have failed before them.
[09:10:42] <boru> On IRC, yeah, but I meant the website.
[09:11:06] <Niggle> Yea, your info page is barren.
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[09:11:46] <boru> Sadly so. I've been saying I'd go back to hand written submissions for years, but unfortunately don't have much time lately.
[09:12:20] <Niggle> Ha! I am a fan of fountain pens.
[09:12:35] <boru> Heh, not _that_ handwritten.
[09:12:57] <boru> Caligraphed notes send by pigeon to the editors.
[09:13:03] <Niggle> Could be Sumerian, wet clay, pointed stick!
[09:13:15] <boru> Indeed! We may never known.
[09:13:18] <boru> Know, even.
[09:14:48] <boru> It could be like that scene from Robin Hood: Men In Tights: https://youtu.be
[09:14:49] <systemd> ^ 03Fox em ( https://www.youtube.com )
[09:15:07] <boru> I fox the editors my submissions.
[09:17:09] <Niggle> Was that a fox, or a corgie? The Eds obsessions with the Jubbie have me all confused.
[09:17:27] <boru> What's a jubbie?
[09:18:02] <Niggle> Jubilee? Queen been around a bit.
[09:18:17] <boru> Which queen?
[09:19:35] <acid_andy> Aristarchus (if you are there). It shouldn't have to be like this, but I trust MartyB when he says you were responsible for the recent flood of racist content, so unfortunately I must remove you from the Friends list.
[09:19:50] <Niggle> Wait, you're Irish, right? Explains the studied ignorance. Now, if you had been American, you would have known out of jealously.
[09:19:58] * boru chuckles.
[09:20:07] <boru> I am a son of the Emerald Isle, indeed.
[09:20:27] <boru> I somehow doubt that Aristarchus is EF.
[09:20:27] <Niggle> Acid, what are you talking about?
[09:20:42] <acid_andy> Adieu
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[09:21:13] <Niggle> I doubt it, too. Never seemed like the type.
[09:21:52] <boru> Having engaged with EF in conversation, the command of language and wit doesn't seem to match.
[09:22:20] <Niggle> But, Ari is gone, though it seems he keeps coming up, a lot? Not my issue.
[09:22:52] <boru> Aha, so that was you asking about the benefits of creating an account on the website.
[09:23:25] <boru> Oxford commas, double spacing.
[09:23:54] <boru> You crafty rogue.
[09:24:09] <Niggle> What? Checked the logs before logging in, and that poor sap was asking that, till janrinok rudely kicked them.
[09:24:56] <boru> I am unperturbed. I'm just here for interesting discussion.
[09:25:25] <Niggle> And he did mention an unhealthy suspicion. Who are you really, boru? Is, or is not, your first name Brian?
[09:26:02] <boru> It may be! Perhaps I have risen from the grave to exact revenge on the sons of Brodir!
[09:26:26] <boru> But on a more serious note, my name isn't Brian, no.
[09:26:30] <Niggle> Always appreciate anyone who knows their Irish history!
[09:26:44] <boru> Indeed. Not many do, these days.
[09:27:02] <Niggle> Quick question: Salmon of Knowledge, or Trout of Doubt?
[09:27:20] <boru> Heh
[09:28:04] <boru> Finn did become more suspicious of druids thereafter, so perhaps it was the latter.
[09:28:32] <boru> Though you can never trust a poet, nor should you anger them by telling them so.
[09:28:59] <boru> You're a fan of the cycles then, are you?
[09:29:52] <boru> My favourite cycle is the mythological cycle.
[09:30:02] <boru> Na Fianna were a bit too blowy.
[09:30:16] <Niggle> Hm, I thought Douglas Adams had changed the fish, but looks like he called it the Salmon of Doubt.
[09:30:40] <boru> Ah, I didn't get the reference, sorry.
[09:31:29] <Niggle> Ok, he was a Brit. Cultural Appropriation!!!!
[09:32:45] <boru> They have picts and brytonic celts, also. I'm unsure of his lineage.
[09:33:06] <boru> Though primarily in Cymru and high hilled Alba and Kernow.
[09:33:39] <boru> And Vannin, of course, though they'd never consider themselves brits there.
[09:33:45] <boru> In any of those places, that is.
[09:33:59] <Niggle> Well, the Britons were no Angles!
[09:34:06] <boru> Heh, clever.
[09:34:36] <boru> Feckin normans and saxons.
[09:35:53] <Niggle> Everyone is alway forgetting the Jutes, though. I may be part Geat, so that pains me.
[09:36:48] <boru> Indeed.
[09:38:11] <boru> As Julian Cope so wonderfully receited: Look to the Saxon chasing Viking, Look to the Norman chasing Saxon, Look to the German chasing German, German German German German!
[09:38:38] <Niggle> Enjoyed talking with you, boru, but I have to go. Janrinok is suspecting I am aristarchus, and my kick me soon. Would blow his mind to find out I am actually Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron!!
[09:38:53] <boru> I should bloody hope you aren't.
[09:38:56] <boru> Macron, I mean.
[09:39:15] <Niggle> Wonderful Anglais, non?
[09:39:19] <boru> Anyway, I had better get my arse back to work as well. Catch you later.
[09:39:32] <Niggle> Bye!
[09:39:40] <boru> Slán!
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[09:43:30] <FatPhil> Oh, gawd, ole loony tunes has been dribbling again, I see.
[09:44:13] <boru> As of late, I must admit I've enjoyed the discussions about philosophy and culture.
[09:44:27] <boru> As opposed to berrating other users.
[09:45:10] <boru> It's better than some of the complaining that seemed to go on incessantly between some users.
[09:47:57] <FatPhil> he namedrops his own name more often than he says anything else. that's a psychopathy.
[09:48:24] <FatPhil> I think he's set himself a target of trying to out-NPD Trump, and is well on the way.
[09:48:58] <boru> People referring to themselves in the third person does get a bit annoying.
[09:51:38] <janrinok> I've been chuckling quite a bit back here
[09:55:32] <FatPhil> I find his idiocy too inane to get a belly laugh out of, though. This is why I have no patience with young children, I'm simply not interested in their little fantasy worlds.
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[09:56:40] <aristarchus> How dare you disrespect the President of the Republic, janrinok! You could be expelled.
[09:57:06] <FatPhil> Hahahah - great one, Ari - you just arrived from the same IP block that Aunty-Ari left from a few minutes ago!
[09:57:24] <janrinok> By the way, boru - your previous foxes are beginning to cause a smell. They arrived with no return address. Can you please collect?
[09:57:54] <boru> Just open the door, they're find their way home.
[09:58:32] <boru> On the note of France and Macron, though, I'm astounded how the people haven't guillotined that fella yet.
[09:58:47] <aristarchus> Checking the log, no such recent user logged in to chat. Losing your short-term, Jan?
[09:59:46] <janrinok> I haven't said anybody has logged in - losing your eyesight, Ari?
[10:00:06] <aristarchus> I sometimes wonder if you are lying, or just have lost it.
[10:00:45] <aristarchus> Just because I am older than you, no reason for insults and censorship!
[10:02:31] <aristarchus> FatPhil, on the other hand, has too much experience to not be lying.
[10:03:42] <aristarchus> Remember, anyone who logs in here, if they be not me or thee, then me they must be! Should do wonders for recruitment!
[10:04:02] <FatPhil> Which bit about 188.123.126.0/24 do you fail to understand?
[10:04:57] <FatPhil> Good taste in ISPs: "We consider Lertas NET s.r.o to be a potentially medium fraud risk ISP, by which we mean that web traffic from this ISP potentially poses a medium risk of being fraudulent."
[10:05:08] <aristarchus> Have to admire an admin who puts his real name in the whois. realname : Phil Carmody
[10:05:52] <aristarchus> Read you Vita. Impressive.
[10:06:30] <FatPhil> Which bit about having fatphil.org for several decades makes you think that I'm attempting to hide my identity
[10:07:12] <aristarchus> Nothing, why do you think 188.123.126.0/24 is suspicous in this instant?
[10:07:28] <FatPhil> Comprehension fail
[10:07:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Polymer 2DPA-1 is Stronger Than Steel - https://sylnt.us
[10:07:53] <aristarchus> Do I need to send you to my Wikipedia page?
[10:08:22] <FatPhil> I know it already: https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:08:23] <systemd> ^ 03Cretin - Wikipedia
[10:08:48] <aristarchus> =g Aristarchus of Samos
[10:08:49] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Aristarchus of Samos - Wikipedia
[10:09:00] <aristarchus> You got the wrong page.
[10:10:05] <aristarchus> Hope you all have a good time seeking out all the hidden Ari's! Boon day for Dunning-Kroegers!
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[10:15:39] <FatPhil> Yes, you're right, his OpSec is getting worse as he finds himself under more pressure.
[10:15:47] <FatPhil> oooops, wrong chan
[12:47:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Shocks IOS Developers With 27% Commission on Third-Party Payments - https://sylnt.us - give-and-take
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[13:24:04] <Runaway1956> 90% of everything is bullshit, and that goes double for the internet
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[14:27:06] <Runaway1956> https://isp.maps.arcgis.com
[14:27:06] <systemd> ^ 03ArcGIS Dashboards
[14:27:44] <Runaway1956> Map of expressway shootings in Illinois,
[14:27:55] <Runaway1956> it's kinda illuminating
[14:28:23] <Runaway1956> Took quite a long while to load fully on my machine, like a minute or more
[14:28:49] <janrinok> There are a few roads that I would avoid if I were driving there - which I can say with some degree of certainty that I never will!
[14:29:29] * Runaway1956 wonders if Baghdad can compete
[14:32:58] <Runaway1956> My worst scare on the highway was in Kansas city janrinok
[14:33:16] <Runaway1956> Driving into the city, listening to a late night talk show about gang violence
[14:33:31] <Runaway1956> I heard a "BOOOM", very close by
[14:34:07] <Runaway1956> Look around, and there's a car keeping pace with me, and I kinda assume that it's gang bangers shooting at me - or something
[14:34:40] <Runaway1956> Finally got away from the car, and pulled into the first place with lights, to get some coffee and calm down
[14:35:02] <Runaway1956> when I step out of the truck, first thing I see is, my battery box has blown itself to bits
[14:35:33] <Runaway1956> Funny in retrospect, but I nearly crapped my pants when it happened
[14:38:00] <janrinok> understandable - not the sort of thing that happens very often
[14:38:05] <t3> while driving in Detroit, I've seen several drivebys, a home invasion in progress, several pop-n-go shooters on motorcycles
[14:38:55] <Runaway1956> I suppose I better tend to some chores - BBL
[14:39:32] <t3> the scariest was when the car directly in front of me started firing on a group of people on the sidewalk
[14:40:07] <Runaway1956> Have never been that close to a driveby - thankfully
[14:40:14] <t3> I (literally) kept my head down and slammed the gas to get out of there
[14:41:06] <janrinok> "witnesses observed a car driving away at speed while the driver was obviously trying not to be recognised..."
[14:42:28] <janrinok> but I would have done exactly the same but probably faster while trying to sit comfortably in my soiled trousers!
[15:10:45] <FatPhil> anyone know of an alternative searchable Usenet archive?
[15:11:58] <janrinok> nope - the one I was using disappeared a year or two back
[15:13:51] <boru> Alternative to what? And why not just use a client?
[15:18:04] <FatPhil> alternative to the execrable google groups
[15:18:36] <boru> There are piles of usenet providers. You don't have to go through them.
[15:18:51] <boru> Plus if you use an actual NNTP client, you don't need to use their web bullshit at all.
[15:19:01] <boru> I use slrn, but there are lots.
[15:19:10] <FatPhil> I know google groups was censoring my posts from its archives because I would put "google groups is censorring my posts from its archives", and then searching for that hardly found any of those posts.
[15:19:27] <FatPhil> I think I even had it as a sig for a while
[15:19:30] <boru> Ah, well, yes, google and censorship go hand in hand.
[15:19:52] <FatPhil> The reason I need an archive, rather than just a server, which I have already, is because I'm looking for a post from ~2000
[15:20:13] <t3> archive.org has lots of usenet stuff, but it's not directly searchable afaik
[15:20:33] <boru> There's a bunch of them. usernetarchives.com for example
[15:20:44] <boru> But yeah, archive.org would be my go to also.
[15:21:03] <boru> usenetarchives.com rather.
[15:26:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Change: Satellites Map Huge Methane Plumes From Oil and Gas - https://sylnt.us - maybe-it-was-just-cow-farts
[15:31:09] <t3> https://ftp.isc.org looks promising?
[15:31:11] <systemd> ^ 03Index of /pub/usenet
[15:35:37] <boru> https://ftp -- jesus wept.
[15:49:15] <Runaway1956> lol - I've often chuckle at that myself, boru
[15:50:03] <Runaway1956> I suppose I contribute to the problem, when I run across an address like that, I just open it in a browser, rather than fire up an FTP client
[15:50:49] <Runaway1956> But, on the metaphysical level, do you really think that Jesus gives a damn?
[16:02:49] <progo> I've met him, on a different IRC net. he's more concerned with ranting at the left and the right
[16:03:27] <progo> he wishes he had a corporeal body so he could go back into some temples and turn over more money changers' tables
[16:05:50] <progo> https://youtu.be
[16:05:52] <systemd> ^ 03Jesus Cleanses the Temple ( https://www.youtube.com )
[16:07:04] <progo> that's really not a great dramatic depiction of a ruckus
[16:07:18] <progo> maybe an English ruckus
[16:07:31] <progo> first thing that came up in a search for the Gospel scene
[16:07:38] <t3> meh, ftp was already dead by the time I started, but after looking closer, that site is only control information, not real newsgroup
[16:09:29] <janrinok> Most of the usenet providers nowadays charge for the connection and it seems it concentrates on pron. Or so a friend told me :)
[16:10:21] <boru> Thankfully, usenet is just one NNTP network.
[16:10:40] <boru> I used to run one that didn't get nearly as much traffic, but the SNR was significantly higher.
[16:10:50] <boru> An NNTP server, that is.
[16:11:02] <progo> I haven't looked at the federated usenet in a LONG long time. Steve Gibson (Spinrite) runs a centrally-controlled public NNTP server for his products and fanbase… except for his SQRL scheme; he couldn't get all the young newbies to use NNTP
[16:11:09] <boru> I don't have the space to mirror usenet, personally.
[16:11:48] <boru> I worked with people who though newsgroups were mailing lists which used SMTP.
[16:12:34] <boru> A semiconductor company I worked for once use NNTP for internal communication e.g. internal releases, news, banter etc.
[16:13:19] <progo> NNTP is great. Usenet is at best a cacophony of porn, warez, and semi-literate ranting
[16:14:02] <boru> In any case, it's a pity that NNTP hasn't stuck around; I found people take more time to write useful responses on NNTP than, say, IRC. MLs similarly.
[16:14:11] <boru> Well, binary groups were a mistake
[16:14:24] <boru> Though they were needed, since people were just text encoding binaries and posting them.
[16:14:30] <janrinok> well if FatPhil finds one worth using I will give it another look.
[16:14:36] <boru> It's fine for bittorrent though, I guess.
[16:14:42] <progo> my few mailing list subscriptions and group email discussions are full of people who can't handle email threads correctly :^(
[16:14:57] <boru> I may host my own server again.
[16:14:58] <progo> IRC has a different goal from NNTP. IRC is supposed to be ephemeral
[16:15:14] <boru> Well, sort of.
[16:15:27] <boru> They're both asynchronous.
[16:15:42] <progo> synchronous human attention is assumed in IRC threads
[16:15:57] <boru> Not in many of the channels I idle in.
[16:16:01] <boru> Conversations can span weeks.
[16:16:11] <progo> and some people say that if anything actionable comes out of an IRC thread, someone needs to take the responsibility of recording it in a proper issue list or whatever
[16:16:49] <boru> If that's what you're using IRC for, sure.
[16:16:54] <progo> yes IRC can be used that way. the protocol doesn't say you can't :^)
[16:17:01] * boru nods.
[16:17:55] <boru> I find discussion flows better on groups in general.
[16:18:06] <Runaway1956> awesome carjacking attempt dach cam video
[16:18:09] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[16:19:11] <progo> DC?
[16:19:18] <progo> carjacking is a sport now for kids in DC
[16:19:27] <Runaway1956> I think it's Philly, not certain
[16:19:39] <progo> (and no, I'm pretty sure DC doesn't have any highway ramps like that)
[16:20:26] <Runaway1956> after watching it a couple times, I wonder if one of the carjackers wasn't literally run over
[16:20:50] <Runaway1956> Skinny dude is in an awkward position when the glass goes flying
[16:21:08] <progo> if it's USA or china, and the ACTUAL victim is known, the state (USA) or the carjacker (China) will come after them for the injuries
[16:21:36] <Runaway1956> or maybe he was liberally run over?
[16:28:26] <progo> also, whatever is the victim's vehicle in that video, it looks a LOT bigger than the vehicle that's trying to block him in
[16:28:38] <progo> criminals are stupid
[16:29:46] <chromas> https://www.autoevolution.com
[16:29:46] <systemd> ^ 03Please Wait... | Cloudflare
[16:29:54] <chromas> fuka yu cloudflare
[16:32:36] <progo> TLDR: Chile. attackers were in a stolen car. Police were able to identify the attackers
[16:37:20] <FatPhil> g/f runs a mailing list for weird news stories, and most of them boil down to criminals being stupid.
[16:37:48] <progo> has she seen fark.com?
[16:38:00] <FatPhil> e.g. the person who read that lemon juice can be used for invisible ink, so he covered himself in the stuff before doing a bank robbery.
[16:38:19] <FatPhil> she has a wide range of sources
[16:38:21] <chromas> that sounds made up
[16:38:35] <chromas> like something snopes would have made up and then debunked 10 years ago
[16:38:38] <progo> agreed. fiction
[16:38:44] <FatPhil> she always finds original local sources for each story, never published a fake story yet.
[16:38:57] <progo> the original local source is fake
[16:39:00] <progo> someone fucking around
[16:39:02] <boru> That snopes website is satire, surely.
[16:39:15] <boru> "They _did_ say that, but it's false because they didn't use these exact words"
[16:39:40] <chromas> before Agent Orange, snopes' thing was inventing urban legends and then debunking them
[16:40:28] <FatPhil> we've even had emails (and legal threats) from some of the criminals involved occasionally.
[16:40:41] <FatPhil> the funniest ones are the ones who pretend to be lawyers.
[16:41:02] <boru> It's like these "fact checkers" you have around now. Liberal art students who are given the authority to "debunk" claims about scientific or political matters. There are even companies who advertise themselves as "fact checking as a service"
[16:41:10] <FatPhil> we even got a thank-you email from one "criminal" because he appreciated the sympathetic way we wrote up his story.
[16:43:08] <progo> for the record I'm not ABSOLUTELY sure that invisible ink man is fiction.
[16:43:18] <progo> people on drugs and seeking drugs to some really REALLY dumb shit
[16:43:44] <chromas> I've seen the invisible ink gag in cartoons and stuff
[16:44:09] <chromas> also sounds like something you'd see on facebook or viral emails
[16:44:31] <chromas> Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Re: Fwd:
[16:45:07] <janrinok> that doesn't mean that some nutcase wouldn't also believe them. I have seen enough Florida Man videos to convince me that such things could never happen.
[16:45:57] <janrinok> *couldn't ever - you know what I meant
[16:46:31] <progo> when is Cartoon Network going to create a series about Florida Man?
[16:46:37] <progo> er, no. Adult Swim
[16:46:52] <progo> actually I think Aqua Teen Hunger Force is pretty much it
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[17:03:13] <FatPhil> How sure are you about the invisible ink? Really sure? What if I were to tell you that that particular story was one of the ones that caused Messrs Dunning and Kruger to look into the eponymous effect?
[17:12:19] <Runaway1956> hippopotamus effect? you get that with decades of McDonald's fine cuisine
[17:16:57] <FatPhil> haven't had a maccy-d for years.
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[18:19:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mosquitoes are Attracted to Specific Colors, New Study Shows - https://sylnt.us - buggy-colors
[19:00:10] <t3> =submit https://www.theverge.com
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[19:21:46] <FatPhil> having worked in the field, in particular in maintenance roles, I can assure you, that's not very good at all.
[19:25:20] <janrinok> FatPhil, I resemble that remark, most strenuously!
[19:26:34] <Runaway1956> Found stupid air rifle laying in the living room - no one around to explain it's presence, or it's operation
[19:26:53] <Runaway1956> Couldn't figure out how to operate it - it's not real obvious
[19:27:14] <Runaway1956> had to get information off the gun, then look it up
[19:27:25] <Runaway1956> https://www.pyramydair.com
[19:27:43] <Runaway1956> Now I know how to unload it, and make it non-operational
[19:29:00] <Runaway1956> Next chore: figure out which purported adult's ass to kick for leaving a loaded gun where the little kids can get to it
[19:30:07] <t3> is it CO2 or a pumper?
[19:30:45] <Runaway1956> It's a pump - doesn't take much strength to pump it, some of the kids might have pumped it up and fired it
[19:32:11] <Runaway1956> Actually, all of the kids are past the toddler stage, I suppose any of them could pump it if they knew to pump it up
[19:37:05] <t3> the pumpers tend to be more dangerous because they're usually wildly inaccurate, even with pellets
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[22:54:44] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.businessinsider.com
[22:54:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Study Identifies Link Between Vitamin D Levels and COVID-19 Severity" (18p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:55:34] <Runaway1956> Been eating a gelcap of fish oil, another of cod liver oil, and yet another of Vitd daily for months now
[22:56:02] <Runaway1956> Along with several other dietary supplements, including vitamin C