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[00:08:22] <tedious> Runaway1956: You need to remember that bitchute video I linked a few months ago with the guy who analyzed the big pharma patents on this stuff.
[00:08:45] <tedious> These guys have made over 70 billion already and there's no end in sight.
[00:10:54] <tedious> Actually I doubt anybody even knows how much money has been made if you include all the kick backs and contracts.
[00:11:58] <tedious> But they brag about how many doses they're selling and we know how much they charge per dose for some countries.
[00:13:45] <AzumaHazuki> if ever there was something a government should take over in the name of national security this is it
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[00:37:10] <AzumaHazuki> Oh, latest word on the street is Trump is going to be tried as an adult, despite having the mindset of a four year old
[00:37:25] <AzumaHazuki> seems a little cruel, but this country routinely tries juveniles as adults, so let 'er rip
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[00:47:25] <bacterium> omg how i wish i could be present for cross-exam in one of donnie's trials
[00:48:10] <bacterium> i would probably pick the one most certain to bankrupt him, because i am pretty sure that's fate worse than prison, torture, or death for him
[00:48:29] <bacterium> we are talking drama
[00:48:33] <bacterium> hubris
[00:48:38] <bacterium> and more drama
[00:49:17] <bacterium> i am seriously thinking to get a ticket and fly cross-country, to NY most likely, to catch an episode of that show
[00:49:28] <FatPhil> nonsense - he's clearly a 7-year-old
[00:50:15] <bacterium> i think it fluctuates between 6 and 8 yo
[00:50:43] <bacterium> mmm..... 4 - 8
[00:52:05] <bacterium> although my 4.5yo would probably be offended by that
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[03:55:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Taiwan Firm's Takeover of German Chip Supplier Falls Through - https://sylnt.us
[03:56:05] * bacterium dives into kambucha
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[07:48:06] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[07:48:08] <systemd> ^ 03US Debt of $30 Trillion Visualized in Stacks of Physical Cash
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[09:04:10] <Alonso-Perez-de-Guzm> You know who I am.
[09:04:24] <Alonso-Perez-de-Guzm> de Guzman
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[09:14:05] <MotherFuckingBritSha> The Rest Was Shadow ban
[09:15:08] <MotherFuckingBritSha> As the fatherless spawn of SoylentNews continue to ban decent people.
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[09:28:26] <SoyCow5328> FatPhil is a fink!
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[09:33:14] <SoyCow5328> And so should I.
[09:35:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US DoJ, Microsoft and 35 States Support an Appeal of Epic Games-Apple Decision - https://sylnt.us
[09:36:20] <SoyCow5328> But once more, I wish to lodge my objections to FatPhil being on staff. The man is evil, and biased, and not very nice: unsuited to be an SN editor.
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[09:38:56] <SoyCowFuckFatPhil> I was trying to quit. Could not. Thanks, FatPhil!
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[10:07:19] <FatPhil> Awwww, ikle kiddie's upset.
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[13:48:48] <Runaway1956> another discussion railroaded into a brick wall https://soylentnews.org
[13:48:50] <systemd> ^ 03US DoJ, Microsoft and 35 States Support an Appeal of Epic Games-Apple Decision - SoylentNews
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[15:56:40] <Runaway1956> What a dismal day. Liquid sunshine dribbling out of the sky, at near freezing temperatures, and promising to freeze solid later in the day.
[15:57:32] <Runaway1956> It's almost 10:00 and the sky remains about as bright as it was at 6:00
[15:58:17] <Runaway1956> Good day to light a fire, curl up with a blankie, and watch idiot reruns with the kids
[15:58:52] <Runaway1956> Also, to gloat over not having to go anywhere today
[15:59:12] <janrinok> Bonjour! If it is any consolation (it won't be) I'm coming the the end of a day just like yours. It didn't get any better.
[15:59:38] <FatPhil> try moving 25 degrees further north
[15:59:58] <janrinok> fair enough - I'll give you that
[16:00:06] <Runaway1956> Try moving 25 degrees colder?
[16:00:08] <Runaway1956> lol
[16:00:13] <FatPhil> #weather
[16:00:14] <MrPlow> Caffeine, 10123 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 22/14F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 14%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Windy starting in the afternoon." 25/24F, Humidity: 97%, Precip: 24%, Wind ~15mph. Sat: "Possible light snow (1–2 in.) in the afternoon and evening." 33/28F, Humidity: 94%, Precip: 57%, Wind ~15mph.
[16:00:43] <Runaway1956> #weather De Queen, Ar
[16:00:44] <MrPlow> 304 West Dequeen Ave, De Queen, AR 71832, USA - Today: "Rain (with a chance of 1–3 in. of snow) in the morning and afternoon." 34/21F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 95%, Wind ~8mph. Fri: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 40/18F, Humidity: 73%, Precip: 11%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 46/20F, Humidity: 74%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~3mph.
[16:01:07] <FatPhil> Don't believe that, I just had a t-shirt and my new blouson (called itself a bomber jacket, but it's way lighter weight than a bomber jacket) when I went out and i was fine.
[16:01:34] <FatPhil> I think I heard drips, so it's above freezing
[16:03:12] <janrinok> anyway, it is time for a pizza soon and perhaps a beer or glass of red! Things will seem better
[16:03:41] <Runaway1956> Just keep the fire going - do your bit for global warming!
[16:04:18] <FatPhil> great long list of shopping to get from the out-of-town shopping centre now written. Today... or tomorrow ...
[16:07:35] <janrinok> I will light my log fire as I go to get my pizza and when I return me evening will be just right.
[16:07:48] <janrinok> s/me/my/
[16:07:48] <SedBot> <janrinok> I will light my log fire as I go to get my pizza and when I return my evening will be just right.
[16:23:36] <FatPhil> Whilst I like the idea of log fires, I'm in a very compact city, and I fucking hate people with log fires, as they're worse for air quality than the cars are!
[16:24:03] <FatPhil> (the old town has almost no traffic, 50m away, outside the old city wall, it's a different story)
[16:24:51] <janrinok> I'm in a very rural location - log fires are commonplace around here.
[16:27:01] <janrinok> within a few clicks from here there are homes with electric generators and using springs for their drinking water. Fortunately, I am a little closer to all the services I need.
[16:28:12] <janrinok> I was just outside a village 15 years ago - now it has expanded around me
[16:33:45] <FatPhil> My gran used to refer to what is now a built-up part of london as "the village", because that's what it was when she was born (Stanmore, in Harrow, N.W. London). Concrete is a cancer, that guy on the radio was right - it grows!
[16:38:03] <FatPhil> One of the old pubs there used to be a coaching station for royalty as they left london to go to the midlands or north - it was the distance from the city that horses pulling a carriage were happy doing in a day.
[16:38:40] <FatPhil> so to a londoner in the 1600s, it was considered remote.
[16:39:48] <FatPhil> Holy fucking jeebus, what have they done to it?!?!? I was sure it was a grade II listed building: https://everestabercorn.com . Used to be dark wood, snugs, absolutely beautiful interior. :(
[16:39:50] <systemd> ^ 03Everest Abercorn
[16:40:46] <janrinok> I wouldn't drink my beer there
[16:41:53] <FatPhil> you wouldn't be allowed - you don't drive a mercedes
[16:45:35] <janrinok> lol
[16:53:18] <Runaway1956> I'm having just a little trouble with that link, FatPhil
[16:53:26] <FatPhil> A lot of local traditional pubs are struggling, and one of the only ways they can survive is by reinventing themselves as fancy hipster fooderies. Yet again, hipsters ruining everything.
[16:53:31] <Runaway1956> I thought you were discussing someplace in England
[16:53:40] <FatPhil> N.W. London
[16:53:42] <Runaway1956> but I read: ABOUT US
[16:53:42] <Runaway1956> India and China are both countries with a rich culture
[16:54:24] <Runaway1956> If I'm sightseeing in England (London) I don't really expect to find Chinese and Indian culture . . .
[16:54:29] <FatPhil> If you add Indian, Bangladeshi, and Pakistani subpopulations together in Harrow, you're talking well over 40% of the population.
[16:55:10] <FatPhil> In some parts of Harrow, bordering Brent, it will be closer to 60-70
[16:55:27] <Runaway1956> So, if I'm sightseeing in Beijing, will I find references to Scottish and French culture?
[16:55:44] <FatPhil> Nope, because China never had an empire in Scotland.
[16:56:10] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh . . . . I'm sure that makes sense . . . somehow
[16:56:41] <FatPhil> We invited them, through the mechanism of invasion, into our fold. They took us up on our offer of hospitality.
[16:56:48] <Runaway1956> Can I just go back to my home century?
[16:57:12] <FatPhil> Quid pro quo, Clarice
[16:57:48] <Runaway1956> I'd have expected a Dr. Who quote, actually.
[16:58:00] <FatPhil> Silence of the Lamb Bhunas.
[16:58:30] <Runaway1956> There's a good question: When does Hannibal Lectur appear in Dr. Who?
[17:00:08] <Bytram> The Who?
[17:00:10] <FatPhil> I suspect I will no longer be watching it by that stage. The last 4 doctors have been largely bullshit.
[17:01:17] <FatPhil> After basically shouting at the telly at how bad the whole last series was, I was pleasantly surprised by the most recent episode, it wasn't as execrable as I'd expected.
[17:02:12] * Runaway1956 is still working his way through season 14 or so
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[17:04:22] <FatPhil> season 14 of the new ones, or of the originals? we did a rewatch right from the very start a few years back.
[17:05:16] <FatPhil> One thing that pisses me off is that is seems noone who has any input into the modern series seems to have any awareness of series 19 of the original: https://tardis.fandom.com
[17:05:17] <systemd> ^ 03The Visitation (TV story) | Tardis | Fandom ( https://tardis.fandom.com(TV_story) )
[17:05:57] <FatPhil> "The story also contained the last appearance of the sonic screwdriver under John Nathan-Turner's tenure as producer. ... The reason it was decided to have the sonic screwdriver destroyed was because it allowed the Doctor to get out of tricky situations too easily. "
[17:06:49] <fliptop> Howdy all. Just reading the Meta-Ari post, and I agree w/ Gaaark, just, wow. And I'll add, WT actual F? What an unnecessary headache for the admins, kudos to you guys for having cool heads.
[17:08:49] <FatPhil> fliptop++ thanks
[17:08:49] <Bender> karma - fliptop: 5
[17:12:29] <Runaway1956> I'm watching the originals, haven't got close to any new Dr. Who
[17:13:53] <Runaway1956> Oh crap. No sonic screwdriver? Then I insist on a universal multi-tool.
[17:14:57] <FatPhil> in that case, unread what I just wrote, it contains spoilers
[17:15:55] <FatPhil> sonic's so 70s anyway, they should be up to quantum now.
[17:16:17] <FatPhil> Spoiler: [spoiler elided]
[17:16:22] <Runaway1956> That's kinda like, "Superman, we admire you so much, we're going to implant Kryptonite into your anus!"
[17:16:58] <Runaway1956> "But, but, but, I don't like Kryptonite!"
[17:17:14] <Runaway1956> "Don't worry, it's just your arse, stop being such a baby!"
[17:18:44] <FatPhil> I don't remember that scene. Was that the one where she reveals she loves him, but they only have 14 hours to save the earth?
[17:25:12] <Bytram> fliptop++ ty
[17:25:12] <Bender> karma - fliptop: 6
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[17:38:58] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I think that's the scene. They only have 14 hours to save the earth, so they spend the first 15 hours screwing their brains out.
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[17:42:08] <janrinok> fliptop - Many thanks, at the moment that comment is much appreciated.
[17:45:30] <fliptop> Admins - You're welcome, and thank you!
[17:46:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chromebook Sales Dive as Device Makers Put Windows 11 PCs First - https://sylnt.us
[17:50:03] <FatPhil> What do /you/ think? https://www.theonion.com
[17:50:04] <systemd> ^ 03San Jose To Become First City In U.S. To Require Gun Insurance
[17:51:01] <FatPhil> the first comment proves the onion's still got it, occasionally.
[17:51:02] <janrinok> fliptop, imagine having to look at every AC post from now back in time for a whole year in case you missed something.... We are tired.
[17:51:16] <Bytram> fliptop++ Yes, see the ++ above, but have another! I very much appreciate the affirmation. It has been a long (and exhausting) stretch!
[17:51:16] <Bender> karma - fliptop: 7
[17:51:40] <Bytram> janrinok++
[17:51:40] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 90
[17:57:43] <fliptop> janrinok: Heck I don't even like looking at AC comments in real time on the site!
[18:16:38] <t3> I used to be a luser, but I migrated everything to *BSD
[18:16:41] <t3> now I'm a boozer
[18:18:13] <FatPhil> a bozo?
[18:19:06] <FatPhil> what's the simplest way in perl to convert a YYYY-MM-DD into a day of the week?
[18:19:56] <t3> I haven't tried to use perl since I was 12
[18:20:05] <fliptop> Fatphil - Date::Calc
[18:20:08] <FatPhil> I've got a script doing $(date -d $yyyymmdd +%a), and the spawning of date is killing the performance.
[18:20:41] <FatPhil> fliptop: Can't locate Date/Calc.pm in @INC :(
[18:20:57] <fliptop> yum install perl-Date-Calc ?
[18:21:24] <FatPhil> usually these modules wrap about 2 lines of useful code with a hundred lines of fluff, so I'll just go peek at its source instead to find those useful 2 lines.
[18:22:35] <FatPhil> Jeebus fuck.
[18:22:44] <FatPhil> make that 1000 lines of fluff: https://metacpan.org
[18:22:45] <systemd> ^ 03lib/Date/Calc/Object.pm - metacpan.org
[18:23:13] <fliptop> FatPhil - true, however I use Date::Calc for a *lot* of other stuff. The method is $dow = Day_of_Week($year, $month, $day);
[18:24:09] <fliptop> FatPhil - usually I preload only the methods I'm using: use Date::Calc qw{ Day_of_Week };
[18:30:50] <FatPhil> Oh, my there's 100K more code in another file 8-o
[18:31:27] <FatPhil> And alas, there aren't 2 short lines that do the work, there are 100.
[18:31:41] <FatPhil> The lesson with Perl is *always* roll your own.
[18:42:44] <bacterium> this is why we need to ditch gregorian abomination an adopt world calendar
[18:42:48] <bacterium> stop the madness!!!!
[19:22:34] <Bytram> FatPhil: How far back do you need to go? For example, do you need to properly handle: cal 1752
[19:25:12] <Bytram> I wrote something in Windows, ~15 years ago. Depends on ports of unix utilities and some other stuff. :(
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[19:28:59] <Bytram> repeated invocations? or just once in a while? Take a look at: datecalc
[19:29:36] <Runaway1956> Discovery:
[19:29:48] <Runaway1956> If you smoke 1/4 pound of pot
[19:29:59] <Runaway1956> ingest a couple hits of acid
[19:29:59] <Bytram> oops; look at dateconv
[19:30:09] <Runaway1956> and listen to heavy metal
[19:30:33] <Runaway1956> while watching a Mac device in the 'gray' screensaver mode
[19:30:42] <Runaway1956> Steve Jobs will talk to you
[19:31:51] <chromas> Why would you want to watch Discovery though?
[19:32:12] <fliptop> Runaway1956: can you see him? Does his halo have a turtleneck? Assuming he is strumming a harp instead of shoveling coal, that is.
[19:32:42] <Runaway1956> He just fades in and out of view, can't see him very well
[19:32:52] <fliptop> Probably a good thing
[19:33:06] <fliptop> A clear view might kill the buzz
[19:33:26] <Runaway1956> On second thought, that could be Madonna
[19:35:54] <fliptop> https://www.kinseyfamilyfarm.com ??
[19:36:30] <chromas> Funny, she doesn't look Druish!
[19:36:41] <fliptop> https://seecolombia.travel hopefully not this
[19:37:07] <Runaway1956> No, but she's obviously holding it wrong
[19:37:18] <FatPhil> fliptop: and here's the answer using only Date::Parse: [gmtime(str2time($_))]->[6]
[19:37:19] <chromas> 🎵All you need is your own imagination🎵
[19:38:23] <fliptop> FatPhil - nice, elegant, TMTOWTDI
[19:41:23] <FatPhil> Only really needs https://metacpan.org
[19:41:24] <systemd> ^ 03Time::timegm
[19:45:04] <FatPhil> Or https://perl.developpez.com
[19:45:06] <systemd> ^ 03Time::Local - perldoc.perl.org ( https://perl.developpez.com )
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[19:53:45] <FatPhil> perl -MTime::Local -ne 'm/(\d+)-(\d+)-(\d+)/ and print([gmtime(timegm(0,0,0,$3,$2,$1))]->[6])'
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[19:56:07] <Bytram> FatPhil: Does nor work for me: perl -MTime::Local -ne 'm/(\d+)-(\d+)-(\d+)/
[19:56:50] <Bytram> was the trailing slash intentional? "/"
[20:09:21] <chromas> yes
[20:09:38] <chromas> it's part of the match (m) function
[20:10:28] <chromas> "m/regex blah blah/" similar to "s/regex blah/blah/"
[20:16:01] <FatPhil> WORKSFORME
[20:19:42] <t3> on my system, it seems to expect months starting at 00?
[20:20:29] <t3> echo 2022-01-31 | perl ... gives out of range 1..28 error
[20:28:06] <boru> If you have GNU date, you could use `date -d YYYY-MM-DD +%A`
[20:29:13] <boru> It's not POSIX, unfortunately, and I think that only GNU date has it.
[20:29:22] <boru> `-d`, that is.
[20:31:22] <FatPhil> yeah, needs -1s
[20:31:38] <FatPhil> 01 is Feb to the helper func
[20:32:38] <FatPhil> boru: date's where I started, but I was doing it thousands of times on a log file, and the spawning of date for each line was horrific
[20:32:51] <boru> Ah, yes, fair enough.
[20:33:55] <boru> Perl has strftime, right? What about that?
[20:34:15] <boru> Yeah, it's %A there as well.
[20:34:25] <boru> It's POSIX and core, iirc.
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[20:45:24] <FatPhil> yeah, strftime is even neater!
[20:45:52] <chromas> But now you have to benchmark it
[20:46:16] <boru> I'd imagine it's an almost direct call to the libc function.
[20:47:07] <FatPhil> yup, basically.
[20:47:29] <boru> Ergo, fairly performant, as vsprintf style functions go.
[20:49:03] <FatPhil> and doesn't require reading 150KB of kitchen-sink perl module
[20:49:08] * boru nods.
[20:49:56] <FatPhil> Two lessons: (1) always be prepared to roll your own, when it comes to perl; and (b) Always ask - someone might have a better suggestion.
[20:50:06] * boru chuckles.
[20:50:45] <FatPhil> (iii) A foolish consistency is the bugbear of a tiny mind.
[20:51:08] * FatPhil rolls his own everything
[20:51:32] <boru> I think that's fine when you're hacking around. It's often a good way to learn something.
[20:51:47] <boru> And truly understand a problem.
[20:52:44] <chromas> I rolled my own shitty html parser. That's when I truly understood how shitty the web was
[20:53:12] <chromas> The irc bot is my four touchdowns in one game
[20:53:29] <boru> Does it come with a remote shell?
[20:53:40] <chromas> No :(
[20:53:45] <boru> Are you sure?
[20:53:53] <chromas> No :(
[20:54:10] <boru> What's it written in? There's probably a fuzzer.
[20:54:18] <chromas> D
[20:54:33] <chromas> It does use some regex though D:
[20:54:33] <boru> ...really? I haven't heard of someone using D in quite some time.
[20:54:34] <chromas> :D
[20:57:01] <FatPhil> chromas really likes the D
[20:57:19] <chromas> !grab FatPhil
[20:57:19] <Bender> Added quote 1062
[20:57:46] <chromas> Sí. And I've been doing all my junk in D
[20:58:09] * chromas hasn't rubbed out any code in awhile though; probably should make a junkshot
[20:58:55] <boru> I need to get back to some of my own projects as well. Work has been draining my will to write code in my spare time lately.
[20:59:15] <boru> It'd be nice to make a dent in this electronic logbook project.
[20:59:59] <chromas> The high quality code meant things like <img src="blah""/> would cause an infinite loop
[21:00:06] <boru> I've been looking at some other programs which have some nice features I'd like to include later at some point, like Marker and Xournal.
[21:01:03] <chromas> Is that pronounced hernel or zernel?
[21:01:22] <boru> Journal, as if you were French, I think.
[21:01:23] <chromas> ooh there's a xournal++ now
[21:01:41] <boru> Yeah, some C++ port, I think
[21:01:57] <chromas> and it's been updated in the last five years
[21:02:21] <chromas> if they're going to c++ why not port to qt? :D
[21:02:29] <boru> A lot of these projects seem to be abandoned, indeed.
[21:02:43] <boru> Part of the reason I wanted to write something simple, lightweight and easy enough to maintain.
[21:02:54] <chromas> I suppose if it does what you need then it doesn't need more work
[21:02:56] <boru> So far, I've mostly stayed on that track.
[21:03:06] <boru> True that, but I meant that they don't even compile.
[21:03:53] <chromas> Use old libraries and put it into a flatsnapimage
[21:04:03] <boru> Goodness, no.
[21:04:17] <boru> I think GTK is the only worry I really have at the moment where the API might not remain stable.
[21:04:17] <chromas> that's why windows is better than unices. static linking
[21:04:44] <boru> Not quite. It just doesn't deprecate interfaces.
[21:04:59] <boru> ntdll and friends are quite a mess...
[21:05:12] <boru> I think there's still stuff from MS DOS 6 still in there, the last time I looked.
[21:05:18] <chromas> but they also bundle all the libjpegs and whatever they need instead of using the One True Lib provided by the system
[21:05:34] <chromas> (applications bundle, I mean)
[21:05:42] <boru> Ah, right.
[21:05:56] <boru> Well, windows isn't any sort of system for serious work, so no surprise.
[21:06:06] <boru> It's an entertainment OS, and it doesn't a bad job of that as well.
[21:06:21] <chromas> that way you get the lijpg you need and don't have to recompile every time a new one comes out
[21:07:04] <boru> Well, static linking has its downsides as well
[21:07:16] <boru> e.g. updating libjpeg for the nth time because of a security flaw.
[21:07:41] <boru> Shared libraries are a good idea, it's just that people usually do it wrong.
[21:08:00] <chromas> But on the upside, my libjpg is so old it doesn't even have that flaw. it's got a different one!
[21:08:23] <boru> I've implemented something similar on an embedded system, but it's trampoline loader.
[21:08:25] <chromas> Each progr—I mean app—can have its own security issues instead of sharing them
[21:08:50] <chromas> boioioing
[21:10:22] <boru> I will rename the trampoline prologue subroutine I wrote to this. Thank you.
[21:10:32] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin"
[21:10:33] <systemd> https://quizlet.com - English Aphorisms Flashcards | Quizlet
[21:12:49] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of " "Emerson"
[21:12:49] <systemd> https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info - reminiscences of swami vivekananda sister christine
[21:13:17] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of simple minds" "Emerson"
[21:13:18] <systemd> [0 results]
[21:13:30] <chromas> each revision gets an additional "oi"
[21:13:31] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of little minds" "Emerson"
[21:13:31] <systemd> https://www.swamivivekananda.guru - SISTER CHRISTINE - Swami Vivekananda
[21:15:00] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of little minds" "Ralph Waldo Emerson"
[21:15:00] <systemd> [0 results]
[21:15:34] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of" "Ralph Waldo Emerson"
[21:15:34] <systemd> http://www.estudantedavedanta.net - Reminiscences of Swami Vivekananda - by Advaita Ashrama.pdf
[21:16:09] <Bytram> =g "A foolish consistence is the hobgoblin of" "Ralph Waldo Emerson" -swami
[21:16:09] <systemd> [0 results]
[21:16:21] <chromas> probably censored by the goog
[21:16:48] <chromas> or it's the "e"
[21:16:59] <chromas> =g "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"
[21:17:00] <systemd> https://www.goodreads.com - Quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the ...
[21:17:59] <chromas> My mind is too little for consistency.
[21:18:12] <Bytram> my bad
[21:18:18] <Bytram> chromas++
[21:18:18] <Bender> karma - chromas: 416
[21:18:36] <chromas> You probably would've gotten it if it weren't for those pesky quotes
[21:18:59] <Bytram> I'd remembered it as "simple" minds
[21:19:28] <chromas> I just did a bing search and pasted a string from the results page
[21:55:38] <FatPhil> I just roll my own quotes, didn't you notice?
[22:01:57] <FatPhil> is yt-ylp a drop-in replacement for youtube-dl, as i have a lot of my common youtube-dl invocations in shell function wrappers and it would be nice to not need to change all those functions with their old parameters
[22:03:48] <FatPhil> bleh! File "/usr/local/bin/yt-dlp/yt_dlp/__init__.py", line 4
[22:03:48] <FatPhil> f'You are using an unsupported version of Python. Only Python versions 3.6 and above are supported by yt-dlp' # noqa: F541
[22:05:37] <FatPhil> Apparently old-old-stable ain't good enough for fancypants yt-dpl.
[22:12:03] <Runaway1956> Well, update your python, you luddite!
[22:12:24] * Runaway1956 orders a new shipment of snakes from the Amazon
[22:15:38] <chromas> I think so
[22:16:02] <boru> =submit http://www.slackware.com
[22:16:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Access Denied" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:16:14] <boru> Only took Pat 5 years
[22:17:52] <chromas> the AUR has a compatibility 'hook' which is just a shell script that says /usr/bin/yt-dlp --compat-options youtube-dl "$@"
[22:18:56] <chromas> So if you run into a problem you can just use that. I don't do anything fancy with youtube-dl so so far just calling it like youtube-dl has worked for me
[22:20:28] <chromas> slackware--
[22:20:28] <Bender> karma - slackware: 0
[22:20:44] <chromas> anti-botite
[22:40:59] <FatPhil> shit, it names the files it produces differently, so doesn't recognise I've already downloaded a bunch from a playlist and refetches them with a new name
[22:41:07] <FatPhil> yt-dlp--
[22:41:13] <FatPhil> bots--
[22:41:13] <Bender> karma - bots: -72
[22:42:45] <FatPhil> can anyone think of why I pinned firefox at v60? I'm not sure what version later than that I rejected, alas, so just looking at the changelogs of v61 won't necessarily help (and changelogs will be 99.9% noise)
[22:43:21] <FatPhil> I guess it would be something to do with privacy or configurability regarding scripting or cookies or some paranoid shit like that
[22:43:31] * FatPhil <- paranoid shit
[22:45:56] <FatPhil> anyway, I've upgraded to old-stable, and have pythong 3.7, and yt-dlp now works at full speed!
[22:45:59] <FatPhil> chromas++
[22:45:59] <Bender> karma - chromas: 417
[23:01:14] <FatPhil> all the fonts in my palemoon have now uglified beyond belief :(
[23:01:17] <FatPhil> upgrading--
[23:01:17] <Bender> karma - upgrading: -1
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[23:10:17] <FatPhil> is Gray Media Group known to have any particular political bent?
[23:10:31] <FatPhil> I can't say I've previously heard of them.
[23:15:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Intel Arc GPUs Could Give Gamers a Reason to Drop Windows 11 for Linux - https://sylnt.us
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