#soylent | Logs for 2022-01-25
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[00:15:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oral Immunotherapy Induces Remission of Peanut Allergy in Some Young Children - https://sylnt.us - that's-just-nuts!
[01:08:59] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[01:09:01] <systemd> ^ 03Murderer Undecided On Whether He'll Follow New Gun Laws
[01:13:35] <chromas> Needed a Baldwinization at the end
[01:35:31] <Runaway1956> Well, Baldwin is a little busy dreaming up new twists and plots to feed to the media
[01:57:01] <chromas> well shoot
[01:57:29] <chromas> Anyone excited for Diablo 3.11 for Workgroups?
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[03:05:17] <tedious> Wow janrinok I just read your beautiful post about lorawan and caring for your wife.
[03:06:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tor Project Battles Russian Censorship Through the Courts - https://sylnt.us
[03:33:54] <chromas> So...the CIA?
[03:34:10] <chromas> or was TOR Navy? Either way, America, fuck yeah!
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[03:58:27] <Deucalion> tedious, could you try pointing your znc to irc3.soylentnews.org and see if you get the same errors pls?
[04:10:27] <Deucalion> tedious, it appears to me it is 92.N.N.125 (bitcoinshell.mooo.com) that is listed on DroneBL not our irc servers. We reject connections from DroneBL IP addresses at the ircd level. You need to take this up with your shell / VPS provider.
[05:46:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Antimicrobial Resistance is a Leading Cause of Death Globally - https://sylnt.us - sick-of-it
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[06:53:42] <arisockus> hello, I am arisockus! I only exist in Runaway1956's head, and I am now impersonating him! (In his head).
[06:54:56] <janrinok> gosh you are starting early today.
[06:55:33] <arisockus> Who are you?
[06:56:19] <janrinok> tedious, technology is there to be used - I just used it. But thanks for the compliment - it is appreciated.
[06:56:35] <janrinok> arisockus, can't you read my username?
[06:56:51] <arisockus> You did not answer my question.
[06:57:13] <janrinok> I am janrinok just as much as you are arisockus for today
[06:57:38] <arisockus> I suspect that "janrinok" is not a real name, it is a sockpuppet.
[07:00:47] <janrinok> suspect away - I'm going nowhere while you do.
[07:01:20] <arisockus> Appreciated! Hey, do you know Runaway1956?
[07:06:37] <arisockus> Asking for a friend.
[07:07:46] <chromas> What friend?
[07:10:54] <arisockus> Well, right, Runaway has no friends, other than floor-shitting dogs, but I have one, who wants to know. Do you know Runaway1956? Does he have a criminal record?
[07:12:46] <janrinok> are you trying to dox somebody?
[07:15:32] <arisockus> Why, does he?
[07:15:46] <janrinok> why, are you?
[07:16:11] <janrinok> .kick arisockus
[07:16:11] -!- arisockus was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(janrinok) No reason given]
[07:26:31] <chromas> https://www.amazon.com
[07:28:42] -!- arisockus2 [arisockus2!~d98addd5@217.138.wnj.jgy] has joined #soylent
[07:28:57] <arisockus2> Rude, janrinok!
[07:29:15] <inz> chromas, I needed that 30 years ago!
[07:29:26] <arisockus2> Runaway1956 invited me!
[07:29:28] <janrinok> rude and illegal arisockus2
[07:29:33] <janrinok> .kick arisockus2
[07:29:33] -!- arisockus2 was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(janrinok) No reason given]
[07:29:40] <AzumaHazuki> "illegal?"
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[07:30:06] <AzumaHazuki> fuck's sake, ari
[07:30:09] <janrinok> doxing is illegal in many US states, and certainly in the EU.
[07:30:11] <chromas> like an access violation on windows
[07:30:11] <arisockus3> Not helping your case
[07:30:50] <janrinok> then stop invading the privacy of other members of our community. That is NOT what we are about.
[07:30:58] <AzumaHazuki> you should dare him to do it. i don't think he has any dox, or has the guts to even if he did
[07:31:07] <arisockus3> What are you going on about?
[07:32:06] <arisockus3> Who is being doxed, and what is doxing?
[07:32:09] <chromas> inz: the q&a/reviews mentioned using an empty bottle. I'd never even thought of that
[07:41:04] <arisockus3> What? no kick for the third manifestation of Runaway's friend?
[07:52:45] <inz> chromas, that does sound quite feasible; a little chrome spray and it'd look even better
[07:53:22] <inz> chromas, I only had a piece of plastic yoghurt cup attached with a clothes pin to create some noise
[07:58:54] <arisockus3> Now that I know that arisockus2 is illegal, well, not going to _that_ resturaunt again!
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[08:20:58] <FatPhil> .kick arisockus3 no nick twattery
[08:20:58] -!- arisockus3 was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(FatPhil) no nick twattery]
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[08:23:08] <arisockus4> Nick twattery? I am imitating no one! Not fair, Phil of Fat!
[08:24:30] <arisockus4> Though I hope, per Runaway's recommendation, that somebody gets a -5 moderation for the dastardly deeds done here in IRC!
[08:31:43] <arisockus4> BTW, is there a definition of nick twattery in the CoC? I know that sockpuppetry is forbidden, especially puppetry of users we have no information about.
[08:32:48] <janrinok> "don't be a dick" - it is in there
[08:34:53] <arisockus4> Is "dick" a registerd username?
[08:36:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Marches Toward its 'One Outlook' Rollout - https://sylnt.us - I-hope-they-don't-block-themselves...
[08:47:55] <arisockus4> Oh, it's the same as "Microsoft"!
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[09:06:43] <arisockus> Just to be clear, no twattery involved.
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[09:36:08] <FatPhil> .kick arisockus wrong
[09:36:08] -!- arisockus was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(FatPhil) wrong]
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[09:38:14] <FatPhil> .op
[09:38:14] -!- mode/#soylent [+o FatPhil] by Imogen
[09:38:20] -!- mode/#soylent [+b arisock*!*@*] by FatPhil
[09:38:23] <FatPhil> .deop
[09:38:23] -!- mode/#soylent [-o FatPhil] by Imogen
[09:38:53] Napoleon is now known as PhatPhil
[09:39:03] <FatPhil> .kick PhatPhil
[09:39:03] -!- PhatPhil was kicked from #soylent by Imogen!Imogen@imogen.dusty.attic [(FatPhil) No reason given]
[09:39:27] <FatPhil> the funny thing is that he doesn't understand that we can still see the twattery no matter what nick he uses.
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[09:40:45] <janrinok> don't feed the troll
[09:41:48] <FatPhil> Is he attempting to prove to the world that he's not the idiot we think he is by acting more like an idiot.
[09:42:02] <FatPhil> As I said before, he redefines stupid.
[09:42:08] <janrinok> he has lost his undeserved power and reputation - he can now be seen for what he really is
[09:42:22] <FatPhil> .op
[09:42:22] -!- mode/#soylent [+o FatPhil] by Imogen
[09:42:24] <janrinok> this is all he has left
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[09:42:59] -!- mode/#soylent [-b *!*951ca641@*.28.kku.ut] by FatPhil
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[09:43:42] <FatPhil> anyone smell anything?
[09:44:50] <cromulentuser> I have an issue to report. I am a new user and I can't find out what my karma is.
[09:45:23] <janrinok> -99
[09:45:40] <cromulentuser> Um, what?
[09:46:58] <janrinok> you are not a user
[09:47:21] <cromulentuser> new user, do you need my UID?
[09:47:37] <janrinok> yes - this should be good
[09:47:50] <cromulentuser> How do I find that?
[09:48:05] <janrinok> it is the same as your karma in this case
[09:48:26] <cromulentuser> Thanks, nice place you have here.
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[09:50:28] <takahashi> こんにちは
[09:51:43] <takahashi> 家はいますか？
[09:53:18] <takahashi> このウェブサイトは何のためのものですか？
[09:53:25] <boru> Takahashi make great telescopes. I have one here.
[09:53:39] <boru> I use it for narrowband emission imaging.
[09:54:32] <takahashi> Same name, but 違う
[09:54:50] <boru> I figured as much.
[09:56:56] <takahashi> 日本人はここですか？
[10:03:17] <takahashi> 外国人、そしてイギリス人は許可されていますか？
[10:11:24] <takahashi> わかりました、気にして申し訳ありません。
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[10:19:42] <Tristan> Hallo, ist die Soylentnews?
[10:20:19] <boru> Grüß Gott. Ja, SoylentNews ist da.
[10:21:06] <Tristan> Ist es wahr, dass sie nur Englisch zulassen?
[10:22:40] <boru> Ich weiß ist nicht aber ich denke Deutsch ist ok.
[10:22:41] <Tristan> Mein Englisch ist Scheiße.
[10:23:59] * janrinok has found an idiot who is trying to break google translate all by himself
[10:24:00] <boru> Du musst soylentnews.de versuchen.
[10:24:20] <Tristan> Warum verfolgen sie Aristarchus? Sind Griechen verboten?
[10:24:28] <boru> Hey, my German is not that bad.
[10:24:38] <janrinok> lol
[10:25:11] <Tristan> Ich kann dich meistens verstehen.
[10:25:51] <boru> Ich habe viel zu tun heute. Ich musse zu arbeit gehen.
[10:26:02] <Tristan> Bedeutet das, dass ich nicht beitreten kann?
[10:26:53] <boru> You give yourself away with the punctuation.
[10:27:02] <boru> Native english speakers always do.
[10:28:55] <Tristan> Englisch ist nur degeneriert deutsch.
[10:29:08] <boru> Genau.
[10:29:15] <FatPhil> he gives himself by talking about Aristarchus within 4 lines of arriving here
[10:29:17] <boru> Und Franzözisch.
[10:29:52] <FatPhil> +away
[10:30:28] <Tristan> Wer ist dieser Franzose? Soll ich ihn eindringen? Entschuldigung für alle Fragen.
[10:31:34] * boru chuckles.
[10:31:36] <boru> Now now.
[10:31:43] <Tristan> Keine deutschen Sprecher auf dieser Website, dann?
[10:31:53] <Tristan> Dann.
[10:31:57] <boru> Ein bisschen.
[10:32:26] <boru> Ich spreche ein bisschen.
[10:32:52] <boru> Ich denke janrinok auch.
[10:33:14] <Tristan> Ich schätze dich, Boru!
[10:33:24] <boru> This is great, I rarely get to practice German on IRC.
[10:33:25] <FatPhil> and it's not a "website", you twonk
[10:33:58] <boru> Ah, I haven't heard "twonk" in ages.
[10:34:31] <Tristan> Keine Website? Was ist der Soylentnews?
[10:35:40] <Tristan> Was ist der "twonk"?
[10:36:18] <FatPhil> .kick Tristan bye-bye Ari, your act fools noone but yourself
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[10:38:01] <boru> I should get back to reading German books and listening to the radio. I need the practice, working from home.
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[10:39:41] <nicodemus> Ακούω ότι ο ιστότοπός σας απαγορεύει τους Έλληνες υπηκόους.
[10:40:29] <nicodemus> Ή, είσαι μόνο μαλάκες.
[10:42:00] <nicodemus> Οι Αμερικανοί και οι Βρετανοί είναι τόσο εύκολοι να εξαπατηθούν.
[10:42:05] <FatPhil> The narcicism is palpable
[10:42:14] <nicodemus> Done here.
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[10:43:01] <FatPhil> for 10 minutes, until he needs more strokes
[10:43:20] <FatPhil> let's guess what identity he uses next time
[10:43:32] <FatPhil> I reckon it will be Leonardo
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[10:44:09] <aristarchus> FatPhil, you misspelled narcissist! I am so disappointed!
[10:44:29] <aristarchus> You can kick me now, for no reason, as usual.
[10:46:04] <aristarchus> And, I don't do Italian, for personal reasons.
[10:46:27] <FatPhil> you're not worth the effort to not g back over typos
[10:47:12] <aristarchus> Who was that German? I do not remember a Kraut ever being on SN.
[10:48:09] -!- mode/#soylent [-v aristarchus] by FatPhil
[10:48:20] <aristarchus> Apologies to boru.
[10:48:31] <FatPhil> please kick me, fatphil, please kick me
[10:48:54] <FatPhil> I need strokes goddammitl!!!!
[10:49:21] <aristarchus> I can't kick YOU, FatPhil, don't have the authority. Would you like me to insult your intelligence? More?
[10:50:01] <FatPhil> ah, the deliberate misinterpretation of what's just been said trops
[10:50:07] <FatPhil> so 5-year-old
[10:50:30] <FatPhil> I was wrong about 10 minutes, more like 10 seconds
[10:50:30] <aristarchus> It's called a "trope". The "e" on the end is important.
[10:50:37] <boru> I'm not German, fwiw.
[10:51:24] <FatPhil> boru: Ari's talking about himself
[10:51:40] <aristarchus> It has become obvious to all that the editorial staff at SN has become toxic, and they have a "thing" about yours truly. Sorry you guys are like this.
[10:51:41] <boru> I meant wrt to the apology above.
[10:51:45] <FatPhil> he needs strokes even if he has to stroke himself
[10:52:11] <aristarchus> Yes, boru, but you Deutschsprache fairly well!
[10:52:37] <boru> I wish I were better.
[10:52:58] <boru> I find it easier when I'm reading and writing.
[10:53:16] <aristarchus> How to get to CarnegieHall, or the Berlin equivalent? Practice, man, practice!
[10:53:31] <boru> Aye, true enough.
[10:53:44] <boru> Find the opportunity is not so easy at the moment.
[10:53:56] <boru> Especially with people at a similar level.
[10:54:31] <aristarchus> Communication is all about success, not finesse.
[10:54:58] <boru> Certainly, though I'd by far prefer to be able to communicate eloquently with natives.
[10:55:11] <boru> Out of respect, but also to express myself effectively.
[10:55:15] <aristarchus> Just look at how successful I am communicating with the Eds! Oh, maybe not a good example.
[10:55:37] <boru> You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, and all that.
[10:56:03] <aristarchus> I find that French and Japanese really appreciate you just trying, unlike English and especially Americans.
[10:56:25] <boru> That is my experience, as well.
[10:56:50] <boru> Luxembourg and Switzerland, not so much. They'll just switch to another language, instead.
[10:56:53] <aristarchus> Auf Deutsch?
[10:57:21] <boru> It depends. Here in Bavaria, once you get outside the city, people really appreciate you being able to speak a bit of Bavarian.
[10:57:46] <aristarchus> Trying to make it easier on you, but you really need to tell them you need the exercise!
[10:57:53] <boru> But so far as Hochdeutsch is concerned, it's better to limp along and start with German once you're in, say, Munich.
[10:58:05] <boru> They're too nice for that, often.
[10:58:20] <boru> People at work won't correct me even after asking them to.
[10:58:38] <boru> And more often they'll just speak english, because that's practice for them as well.
[10:59:02] <boru> In the north in places like Berlin, people are a lot less friendly.
[10:59:34] <boru> They will tell you to your face, in German, that they won't want to speak to you because they consider it's a waste of time.
[10:59:41] <aristarchus> Competing practice needs, eh? Experience in Japan is that if you look like an English speaker, you will attract crowds of students wanting some practice.
[11:00:01] <boru> Makes sense. No better person to learn from than a native speaker.
[11:00:13] <aristarchus> Unless they are German!
[11:00:26] <boru> Heh, yes, somewhat.
[11:00:47] <boru> Where I live, most of the older people don't speak any english at all, but they strongly prefer Bavarian to German.
[11:01:12] <boru> Great to practice with, but limited use for interaction in German.
[11:01:26] <boru> And Bavarian is _very_ regional, even in Bavaria.
[11:01:34] <boru> Lots of little dialects.
[11:01:49] <aristarchus> Time for me to brush up on my Cantonese, to spoof FatPhil again with someone who is not aristarchus, And speaking of dialects, Chinese is the bomb.
[11:02:13] <boru> Fancy yourself as a bit of a polyglot, eh?
[11:02:18] <boru> I wish I had the time for it.
[11:02:25] <boru> Especially for some of the more Eastern languages.
[11:02:46] <aristarchus> Just an ancient Greek philosopher, who has been around a lot, really a lot.
[11:02:54] <boru> But spare FP the high blood pressure. The discussion can be half decent in here some times.
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[11:03:23] <boru> Anyway, I suppose I had really better get my arse back to work.
[11:27:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Fires Back in Ericsson 5G Legal Battle - https://sylnt.us
[12:38:31] <FatPhil> Mein Gott! The aeroplanes-can't-take-off-from-a-moving-conveyor-beltists are even more annoyingly blinkered than the flat-earthers!
[12:38:52] <boru> ...is there such a thing?
[12:39:00] <FatPhil> At least the latter are just batshit-cuckoo
[12:39:32] <FatPhil> It was even put to the test (and demonstrated) on /Mythbusters/ years back. Probably a decade back now.
[12:42:26] <FatPhil> Probably one of their most controversial debunks ever, it never died. https://youtu.be
[12:42:29] <systemd> ^ 03Ask Adam Savage: Plane on a Conveyor Belt Controversy ( https://www.youtube.com )
[12:42:58] <FatPhil> that vid's very recent, he's doing a retrospective.
[12:43:43] <boru> Wtf, Russia are conducting wargames off the Irish coast.
[12:43:54] <FatPhil> yeah, read about that yesterday
[12:44:17] <FatPhil> it's a US false flag operation, they're trying to scare you into NATO
[12:44:46] <boru> Over my dead body.
[12:45:02] <boru> The americans probably want to land planes in Ireland again
[12:45:07] <boru> Even though we're not in NATO
[12:47:11] <boru> I wish we'd leave the EU as well. They're always pulling us into trouble.
[12:47:39] <boru> With american bases all over the EU after WW2, it's so plainly obvious that the support for war is manufactured.
[12:49:43] <boru> Interestingly, there's nothing about the wargames on Russian media outlets.
[13:49:00] <FatPhil> american bases were bloody everywhere, more than half of the countries of the world have some kind of US DoD presence.
[14:05:07] <boru> Indeed.
[14:15:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - After 7 Years, a Spent Falcon 9 Rocket Stage is on Course to Hit the Moon - https://sylnt.us - pity-we-won't-see-it
[14:37:17] <FatPhil> If there's one thing you can learn about the US, it's that, even when they leave, they never leave.
[14:37:39] <FatPhil> Both Finland and Estonia had a USSR military presence after independence.
[14:37:53] <FatPhil> So I'm not picking on the US here.
[14:39:40] <FatPhil> Ooh, I didn't know this: "While under Soviet control, Finnish passenger trains running between Helsinki and Turku were allowed to use the line through the area. However all train windows had to be closed with shutters, and photography was prohibited."
[14:55:30] <inz> The shutters were confidential too!
[16:18:31] <Runaway1956> a search on my 'Murica centric machine for "russia war games ireland" gives a hit on Houston Chronicle, MSN, ABC, Canada's ctvnews, and dozens of minor league news sources
[16:19:49] <Runaway1956> If it were really newsworthy, CNN and Fox would be carrying it, right?
[16:22:54] <Runaway1956> I see no commentary from Biden or AOC, so it's obviously of no importance
[16:23:22] * Runaway1956 is grateful for our Irish freinds who can be expected to fight the good fight for us when the shit hits the fan
[16:40:12] <FatPhil> It's not politically polarised enough to be carried on those channels.
[16:41:25] <FatPhil> however, CNN does have it: https://edition.cnn.com
[16:41:27] <systemd> ^ 03Russian naval exercises off Ireland's coast 'not welcome,' says Foreign Minister
[16:42:10] <FatPhil> and : https://www.foxnews.com
[16:42:11] <systemd> ^ 03Russia will stage 'unwelcome' live-fire naval drills off coast of Ireland
[17:08:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Provide Insight Into How the Brain Multitasks While Walking - https://sylnt.us - but-can-they-chew-gum-at-the-same-time?
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[17:58:07] <tedious> Deucalion: I tried irc3.soylentnews.org and it still says that I am banned.
[18:04:21] <tedious> Now I get ssl errors.
[18:05:18] <tedious> Oh I think I see now!
[18:06:41] <tedious> First the server doesn't like me beause of that dronebl and it drops the connection then after enough rejections it eventually doesn't even allow the ssl connection at all.
[18:07:17] <tedious> So I definitely need a znc that isn't going to get banned every few weeks.
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[18:28:27] <tedious> Hello AzumaHazuki ltns.
[18:47:33] <AzumaHazuki> i've had it up to here with aristarchus' idiocy
[19:05:13] <tedious> That guy who comes here and says bizarre things?
[19:05:26] <tedious> I can't even understand him half the time so I just ignore it.
[19:08:56] <tedious> How are you doing with your health investigations in the new post-pandemic normal?
[19:13:21] <AzumaHazuki> "health investigations?"
[19:22:22] <tedious> Or whatever you want to call it.
[19:23:10] <tedious> I remember you telling me about eating an anti-inflamation diet and talking about supplements to keep your immune system strong against covid.
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[19:57:02] <tedious> I wonder how much electricity could be saved if people would stop being so impatient and just wait a few seconds for things to happen.
[19:58:45] <tedious> Maybe we could also get rid of all the ads and useless javascript and the servers that host them.
[20:02:09] <t3> if we got rid of the ads and js, everything would be *faster*
[20:06:21] <tedious> And we could use even lower power devices and save even more electricity. :)
[20:15:24] <boru> tedious++
[20:15:25] <Bender> karma - tedious: 5
[20:15:31] <boru> On both scores.
[20:25:53] <tedious> How much karma do I need to save up before I can make this all happen? :)
[20:27:12] <boru> Enough to take out google would be a start.
[21:06:29] <FatPhil> t3++
[21:06:29] <Bender> karma - t3: 11
[21:06:32] <FatPhil> boru++
[21:06:32] <Bender> karma - boru: 72
[21:06:42] <FatPhil> jeez, we're grumpy old gets!
[21:06:55] <boru> Hey, I resemble that remark!
[21:24:13] <Runaway1956> ?submit https://www.seattletimes.com
[21:24:54] <Runaway1956> If you need a cop the rest of this month, you'll have to go to Krispy Kreme
[21:26:37] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.seattletimes.com
[21:26:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03FAA Provisionally Clears 90% of Aircraft to Fly Near 5G Networks" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:34:48] <chromas> Haven't really heard anything about blood donations the last couple years
[21:35:18] <chromas> Can you still donate if you've been jabbed? If I get blood from a jabee, am I jabbed by proxy?
[21:35:48] <Runaway1956> You've been jabbed by proxy just by associating with vaccinated people
[21:36:11] <Runaway1956> that's what the chips are for, to distribute the vax after it's been injected
[21:36:13] <boru> I would be concerned with spike protein contamination. I think it would be highly irresponsible to accept blood donations from people who have had MRNA therapy.
[21:36:14] <chromas> What happens if I'm Pfizered and I get blood from a Modernaized donor?
[21:36:32] <Runaway1956> clots
[21:43:32] <Runaway1956> Here's a story worth a read, I think - https://www.washingtonpost.com
[21:43:34] <systemd> ^ 03An old Virginia plantation, a new owner and a family legacy unveiled
[21:44:02] <Runaway1956> Basically, grandson of former slaves buys the old plantation
[21:44:33] <FatPhil> sheesh: https://www.theguardian.com
[21:44:34] <systemd> ^ 03Fight Club gets a new ending in China - and the authorities win
[21:46:06] <Runaway1956> In Soviet China, the authorities always win
[22:12:45] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://newatlas.com from the low-carbon-diet dept
[22:12:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Liquid Metal Catalyst Quickly Converts Carbon Dioxide Into Solid Carbon" (10p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:13:15] <AzumaHazuki> this is really promising. it turns CO2 going through it into SOLID CARBON. Which means this is the theoretical basis of the SimEarth Oxygenator
[22:15:35] <boru> Planting trees and restoring old growth forests is promising, and it scales far better, as well as featuring several other benefits for the environment.
[22:15:59] <boru> This is really all we need to do in order to sequester carbon.
[22:17:57] <boru> Boring, sure, but extremely effective.
[22:21:52] <tedious> I was curious so I looked into how much it costs to plant a tree and the prices were insane!
[22:22:12] <tedious> More or less than $100 each depending on region and labor costs.
[22:22:28] <boru> You can always just go out in Autumn and collect seeds like acorns and chestnuts.
[22:22:36] <boru> Native deciduous is best.
[22:22:44] <tedious> I just want to plant acorns or apple seeds or something and do it myself for super cheap.
[22:22:52] <boru> Now you're talking.
[22:23:07] <tedious> Also pine trees and whatever else is nice and bio-diverse.
[22:23:20] <tedious> But where can I get lots of seeds cheap?
[22:23:35] <boru> It takes a while to nurse saplings, but old growth usually takes care of pests and insects unless it's endemic.
[22:23:41] <boru> Go outside and collect them.
[22:23:43] <boru> They're free.
[22:24:22] <boru> You'll find hundreds if not thousands around big old trees in Autumn.
[22:24:41] <boru> You just need to beat the squirrels to them.
[22:25:17] <boru> Oak grows slowly, chestnuts less so. Ash grows very quickly.
[22:26:30] <boru> The chestnuts you don't plant, you can roast over a fire. They're delicious. Just don't eat horse chestnuts, as they'll give you some serious cramps in your stomach.
[22:27:39] <tedious> Should I recycle plastic cups and plant some seeds from the grocery store indoors now or just wait until spring and collect seeds myself?
[22:28:07] <boru> I'd just wait. You never know what you're getting in the seeds you buy from shops.
[22:28:19] <tedious> I guess if I want to do that I'll have to find some apples that aren't gross.
[22:28:42] <boru> The best thing for germinating seeds, ime, are ice cube trays. That'll get them started, then transplant them and nurse them to saplings, then plant them.
[22:29:04] <tedious> Oh neat idea.
[22:29:18] <tedious> How about egg cartons?
[22:29:21] <FatPhil> it's not sequestering carbon, it's buffering carbon!
[22:29:38] <boru> Eggs cartons are biodegradeable, better for compost.
[22:29:51] <tedious> It's turning carbon into something much nicer than oil. :)
[22:30:24] <tedious> I wonder if you can just plant the cardboard carton right in the dirt and the roots will grow through it?
[22:30:29] <boru> That carbon is mostly from algae. Mark my words that algal biofuel will be an intermediary to something better for freight engines. A good investment.
[22:30:39] <boru> And it's easy to grow, actually.
[22:30:45] <boru> And you can eat it.
[22:30:58] <boru> At the moment, it's the most long term sustainable space food.
[22:30:58] <tedious> Not very appetizing. :)
[22:31:09] <boru> Some strains aren't that bad.
[22:31:33] <boru> But algal biofuels are very, very promising.
[22:31:58] <boru> Avaiation is the next thing that will need a combustable fuel alternative.
[22:32:10] <boru> Ships and trains are mostly covered with biodiesel.
[22:32:42] <boru> Anyway, I had better get off to bed. I need to go to the lab tomorrow.
[22:32:48] <boru> Long story short: plant trees!
[22:32:50] * boru absconds.
[22:32:54] <FatPhil> can't disagree
[22:32:57] <FatPhil> cheeriebye
[22:33:03] <tedious> I think I'd rather stick to planting trees and shrubs and other nice things that I can enjoy without having to build an industrial plant. :)
[22:33:25] <tedious> Good night!
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