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[00:09:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remembering Faces and Names Can be Improved During Sleep: Research Finds Memory Reactivation - https://sylnt.us - what-was-your-name-again?
[01:04:14] <Bytram> my vaccine card (/me takes a look) reports my flavor as strawberry.
[01:12:17] <progo> Mine says i get a free heart attack after six jabs
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[02:56:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As the EU Finalizes its Digital Markets Act, Google is Making a Last-ditch Lobbying Effort - https://sylnt.us - don't-be-evil
[03:02:05] <Bytram> ἀπόπτωσις
[03:27:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As the EU Finalizes its Digital Markets Act, Google is Making a Last-Ditch Lobbying Effort - https://sylnt.us - don't-be-evil
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[03:59:59] <SoyGuest0545> LOl, the ugly Jew Chaim Witz aka "Moxie Marlinspike" steps down from his "secure" messaging product
[04:00:46] <SoyGuest0545> Trusting a Jew with "secure messaging." LOLZ
[04:01:28] <SoyGuest0545> He will be given a hero's welcome in Israel, along with the unit 8200 guys and dykes who did Whatsapp and all the other Mossad spy-apps.
[04:03:17] <SoyGuest0545> Sure is an interesting Cohencidence.
[04:04:04] <SoyGuest0545> I wonder what unit 8200 venture he will be involved with next? Something that gets really popular due to nonstop Jewish shilling
[04:05:26] <SoyGuest0545> Our next secure messenger will be secure for real this time, guys! And it will also have an integrated crypto-wallet which my Jewish bosses will never steal, no!
[04:06:02] <SoyGuest0545> And they will tie "climate" into its marketing
[04:06:34] <SoyGuest0545> like, "lower power usage for climate-friendliness" or some shit. Maybe an occasional toast to remind users to eat the bugs.
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[05:35:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Widespread, Easily Exploitable Windows RDP Bug Opens Users to Data Theft - https://sylnt.us
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[05:47:47] <SoyGuest0545> Wuttup Judenrats
[05:48:01] <SoyGuest0545> How's the Goy elimination program coming along?
[05:48:50] <SoyGuest0545> I hope all the information about side effects I've been reading is just Russian disinformation,
[05:49:32] <SoyGuest0545> I mean, being unvaccinated, I wouldn't suffer them. But a lot of other people will, and if it is true, then somebody will pay.
[05:50:04] <SoyGuest0545> I wouldn't know, or anything, but it is common knowledge that the Jews are behind all this poison-pushing.
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[06:39:14] <SoyCow0763> I wish to recind my previously submitted article regarding ClockworkPi
[06:39:33] <SoyCow0763> https://soylentnews.org
[06:39:34] <systemd> ^ 03Long-Awaited Clockwork Pi DevTerm Released, Research Shows Apt Has Been Compromised since September : SoylentNews Submission
[06:40:02] <SoyCow0763> I plan to rewrite the article when they publish a public statement on the issue
[06:40:31] <SoyCow0763> The links provided no longer work, and there is also this
[06:40:33] <SoyCow0763> https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com
[06:42:10] <SoyCow0763> Thank you
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[06:48:23] <progo> https://static.noagendasocial.com "my favorite computer language"
[06:54:33] <chromas> I don't remember quite so much black on that report
[06:56:00] <chromas> progo++
[06:56:00] <Bender> karma - progo: 8
[06:56:05] <chromas> javascript-
[06:56:07] <chromas> javascript--
[06:56:07] <Bender> karma - javascript: -8
[06:56:35] <progo> javascript[][][]
[07:00:18] <progo> one of these days someone's going to commit a serious crime using obfuscated javascript
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[08:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The FTC’s Antitrust Case Against Facebook is Going Forward After All - https://sylnt.us - facebook-gets-to-face-the-music
[08:29:37] <FatPhil> =yt python wats
[08:29:38] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Hanlon - Investigating Python Wats - PyCon 2015 (24:09; 12,368 views; 👍185 👎[hidden by butthurt Google employees])
[08:29:51] <progo> wat.
[08:36:35] <progo> TIL: grouping statements in a single line of python affects object identity
[08:36:50] <progo> I'm scared to view the rest of this presentation
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[08:45:28] <chromas> Speaking of jews
[08:45:31] <chromas> https://www.msn.com
[08:45:32] <systemd> ^ 03MSN
[09:26:16] <AmyMalik> oh
[09:33:16] <FatPhil> If you really, really feel the need to hang Boris, I have one thing to say to you:
[09:33:26] <FatPhil> Prime Minister Gove.
[09:33:39] <AmyMalik> Eh. At least it's not Truss.
[09:36:13] <FatPhil> The queen of cheese
[09:39:08] <AmyMalik> isn't she the queen of killing trans people
[09:49:00] <FatPhil> not sure I know that story. I thought the best at killing trans people were trans people?
[09:50:37] <AmyMalik> no, that's the society that surrounds trans people, that makes trans people kill ourselves
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[09:50:55] <Reinhilde> a society that denies essential medical care
[10:00:32] <boru> In soceties which can afford it, how, exactly, are mental health services witheld from suicidal people?
[10:01:12] <boru> I presume we're talking about developed nations, here. This is primarily a first world problem, it seems to me.
[10:01:36] <FatPhil> Yeah, Africa spends more time killing albinos
[10:01:49] <boru> Africa isn't a single country.
[10:02:07] <FatPhil> neither is "developed nations"
[10:02:33] <boru> I didn't infer that it is.
[10:02:42] <FatPhil> you did by parallelism
[10:02:44] <boru> Hence the 's' on 'nations'.
[10:02:56] <FatPhil> well, you didn't infer, but you implied, and I inferred
[10:03:19] <boru> Okay, you won the argument with pedantry. Congratulations.
[10:03:33] <Reinhilde> the mental health is a symptom of an endocrine problem
[10:03:55] <boru> I think that's a serious generalisation.
[10:04:05] <Reinhilde> the mental health in most transgender people
[10:04:10] <boru> There is a whole field of behavioural psychology, afterall.
[10:04:40] <Reinhilde> wouldn't you feel like shit if suddenly, you woke up in a body of the opposite sex and the associated societal gender and everyone just acknowledged that rather than who you really were
[10:05:06] <FatPhil> But that's never happened
[10:05:18] <Reinhilde> that's how trans people have to live EVERY. FUCKING. DAY. unless they can get hormone treatments to put a stop to the effects their bodies visit upon themselves.
[10:05:28] <boru> I'm not going to pretend I can imagine what that's like.
[10:05:35] <Reinhilde> smart.
[10:05:42] <FatPhil> So they flip body gender every day?
[10:05:46] <Reinhilde> no.
[10:05:53] <FatPhil> Why did you say they did?
[10:06:06] <Reinhilde> I may not be being very clear
[10:06:25] <Reinhilde> but it feels like we've been body switched and we can't find the reverse it button
[10:06:56] <FatPhil> That's not the story I get from one of my drinking buds.
[10:07:08] <FatPhil> It seems like you're over-generalising
[10:07:12] * Reinhilde sighs
[10:08:12] <Reinhilde> my point is, suicide is very rarely a voluntary action entered into in clear-minded free will
[10:08:46] <FatPhil> No-one said otherwise.
[10:09:06] <boru> And is often caused by pharmaceutical factors.
[10:09:17] <Reinhilde> unless you have terminal cancer, suicide always comes from desperation with your current mental state, whether it's anxiety, depression, body dysmorphia, or being transgender and unrecognised by society, or being gay and all your siblings are getting the super-aids
[10:09:27] <boru> Generally, I disagree with pharmaceutical psychotherapy.
[10:09:45] <Reinhilde> and by unrecognised I mean, coerced to live as a gender that you aren't of (having me be addressed as male, for instance)
[10:09:49] <boru> I think it causes more harm than good, by a large proporition.
[10:09:50] <Reinhilde> (it's wrong, but it's what the law states)
[10:10:23] <boru> Ergo, I just wanted to disagree with the point that _help_ is somehow witheld.
[10:10:31] <FatPhil> I think it's usually an important part of any solution (because science), but the implementation is utterly terrible (because business).
[10:10:49] <boru> I think you can apply that to a lot of things.
[10:10:57] <boru> Current global situation being a prime example.
[10:11:03] <Reinhilde> it's just that the help is wrong.
[10:11:19] <boru> I don't agree, personally, but I'm fine with disagreeing.
[10:11:49] <FatPhil> different countries have very different approaches, of course
[10:11:55] <Reinhilde> maybe you should look into neurology boru
[10:12:02] <Reinhilde> because some people's brains are just broken
[10:12:22] <boru> Yes, I'm aware with brain damage and developmental abnormalities.
[10:12:33] <boru> s/with/of
[10:12:33] * SedBot offers boru a /
[10:12:36] <boru> Shut up, SedBot
[10:12:48] <FatPhil> i still recommend this series, even though it's a little old. The science hasn't changed much. https://www.youtube.com
[10:12:49] <systemd> ^ 03Human Behavioral Biology (Robert Sapolsky) 25 lectures
[10:13:20] <boru> I'd be interested in watching it, if and when I get some time.
[10:13:45] <FatPhil> They're ~90 mins each, it's a proper uni course
[10:14:00] <Reinhilde> my brain is tweaked in such a way that it didn't expect suddenly baritone voice, suddenly boysmell, suddenly brow ridge, and when it got that instead of breasts and hips I went into a full bore depression. No amount of trying to make myself like those components would abolish the fact that they are not components I can use appropriately
[10:14:03] <boru> Sounds like I'll get to watch it some time around 2050.
[10:14:11] <FatPhil> Alas a couple of the lectures were never put online, and unfortunately they're the lectures most pertinent to this subjectmatter
[10:14:26] <Reinhilde> so now i take estradiol valerate injections and while it's not perfect I'm doing a whole lot better
[10:14:57] <FatPhil> Did you have to fight your doctor to get this prescription?
[10:15:22] <Reinhilde> I ended up going underground, not because of a need to fight a doctor, but because I'm fucking scared of doctors after two mental ward admissions
[10:15:37] <FatPhil> thanks for context
[10:16:03] <Reinhilde> which I think were actually related to diet-induced brain disease, not the background of being transgender
[10:16:23] <boru> Was that diagnosed by a doctor?
[10:17:15] <Reinhilde> diet induced part no, the brain diseases (bipolar and depression) were
[10:17:36] <boru> Were you prescribed medication for them?
[10:19:12] <FatPhil> I'm not a huge fan of typical depression medication, at least in countries like the US - I think that's certainly an area where the front-line medical field can advance.
[10:19:59] <boru> I was approaching a similar point endorsing behavioural psyhcology.
[10:20:14] <FatPhil> yup, we're largely in agreement
[10:20:31] <Reinhilde> there was aripiprazole for "anxiety" which I now suspect to be C-PTSD from becomig an overachiever to block out autistic behaviours, that started age 8 and stopped age 14 or so, hence the first ward admission. I was also put on antidepressants for what I now think to be the same C-PTSD, this was before any ward admissions. All the ADs did was make me hornier. Lol. Went off them, all they did
[10:20:33] <Reinhilde> was give me brain zaps and I was fine after. I think the first ward admission sent me out on sodium valproate (Depakote)
[10:20:33] <boru> Anyway, it's all very personal stuff, and I'm not here to grill people.
[10:20:41] <Reinhilde> which is a seizure med but I was never epileptic
[10:20:41] <boru> So, I will go back to work.
[10:20:44] <Reinhilde> actually no that was the second one.
[10:21:18] <Reinhilde> in 2018 I ended up doing a ketogenic diet, which worked well enough that nobody noticed when I forgot to take the depakote and I was judged safe to take off that
[10:21:39] <Reinhilde> 2019 I moved out into a flat
[10:22:39] <Reinhilde> 2020 the world ended, i moved into this house, and i finally got on black market hormones, initially for a false start and then permanently since December. Time's flown since then. Life is boring as shit but I don't have a constant undercurrent of offing myself anymore.
[10:22:42] <FatPhil> I've heard keto diet in this context from other directions too, if that's not been properly studied, it should be.
[10:23:33] <Reinhilde> one thing: part of the reason I stay alive is to spite the medical practitioners who I feel left me for dead
[10:23:49] <Reinhilde> so that's probably a thing that distorts this
[10:23:58] <Ingar> doctors.. bah
[10:24:12] <FatPhil> If those hormones are genuinely helping, and there's no reason they shouldn't be, it's a real shame you can't get a scrip, that's a broken system.
[10:24:13] <Ingar> my mom is alive because we told the doctor to go to hell
[10:24:40] <Reinhilde> FatPhil, I mean here I'd get a script easily becaues it's Canada. In the UK I would be terafucked because of the GIC system.
[10:25:12] <Reinhilde> which GPs have to refer trans patients to even if they've the expertise to treat them themselves
[11:06:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RNA Discovery May Lead to Better Diagnosis and Treatment of Liver Cancer - https://sylnt.us
[11:51:01] <Ingar> Runaway1956:my card says Pfizer :)
[11:51:25] <Ingar> arm is aching and feeling generally meh
[11:51:38] <Ingar> godo thing it's friday
[12:01:58] <FatPhil> drink some gin - call it a gin pfiz
[12:16:41] <Runaway1956> Yeah, my card says pfizer for the first two shots, I kinda figured the card would also note which brand of booster you get
[12:19:54] <FatPhil> was there a story on https://www.youtube.com ?
[12:19:56] <systemd> ^ 03This Rat Is "Playing" Doom... For Science - IGN Daily Fix
[12:49:02] <Reinhilde> I see the rot goes to the head in #cat-v%irc.oftc.net. the same rota of 5 or 6 schoolyard bullies: hiro, qrstuv, sigrid, kfx among the ones I can recall off top of head, taking turns calling me a "waste of time" (which doesn't land), promising to misgender me by calling me "it" because i meow too much, setting rules in the topic to single one person (me) out, kicking me with a one-word reason,
[12:49:04] <Reinhilde> then sigrid ultimately banning me with two words of "fuck off"
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[13:46:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU Could be in Short Supply When It Launches - https://sylnt.us - [try-to]-get-it-while-it's-hot!
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[14:47:03] <FatPhil> https://www.reuters.com
[14:47:04] <systemd> ^ 03Exclusive: Tesla delays initial production of Cybertruck to early 2023 - source
[14:47:34] <Runaway1956> But, of course. There is a global shortage of chips, we can't build new products this year!
[14:58:12] <FatPhil> The problem is that they've run our of 1-bits.
[14:58:28] <FatPhil> s/our/out/
[14:58:28] <SedBot> <FatPhil> The problem is that they've run out of 1-bits.
[15:28:02] <FatPhil> I have to type my username, which is my surname, into a website every time I log in, which is dozens of times per day due to a short timeout (and some fuckery to prevent the browser from remembering the username). The sequence of characters has begun to lose all meaning to me now as I type all 7 characters in about half a second.
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[16:36:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Secret to Building the Next Silicon Valley - https://sylnt.us
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[19:26:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 16 Top Colleges Sued for Alleged Violation of Federal Antitrust Laws by Colluding on Their Financial - https://sylnt.us - This-could-have-legs
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[19:42:41] <chromas> Not their financial!
[19:43:29] <FatPhil> I know why their financial's so messed up - it's because of their administrative.
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[20:05:08] <Bytram> #weather buffalo
[20:05:10] <MrPlow> unnamed road, Buffalo, NY, USA - Today: "Overcast throughout the day." 28/6F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 14%, Wind ~12mph. Sat: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 10/5F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 4%, Wind ~9mph. Sun: "Heavy snow (2–4 in.) overnight." 26/20F, Humidity: 63%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~5mph.
[20:05:38] <Bytram> Brrrr!
[20:07:11] <Bytram> Since when is 2-4 Inches of snow "heavy"? Especially in Buffalo, NY?!
[20:07:49] <Runaway1956> They probly have young incels running the weather forecast Bytram
[20:12:52] <Bytram> I'll grant that temps of "10/5 F" *is* cold, but 2-4 inches of snow is just an inconvenience. Winds of "~9mph" and "~5mph" seem to relatively mild, too.
[20:13:53] <Runaway1956> Did I ever tell you about trying to drive into Buffalo, and the city was shut down
[20:14:08] <Runaway1956> couldn't even see the stores, the truckstops, or anything else
[20:14:11] <chromas> Maybe it's heavy because it all comes down at once
[20:14:40] <Runaway1956> Walmart was literally covered in snow, you couldn't see it at all, until they dug a tunnel to the main entrance
[20:15:03] <Bytram> =yt He ain't heavy he's my brother
[20:15:04] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Hollies - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother (04:19; 22,693,806 views; 👍134,062 👎[hidden by butthurt Google employees])
[20:15:28] <Runaway1956> You ain't seen brother lately, he's 320 pounds today
[20:16:24] <Bytram> How's sister doing?
[20:16:42] <Runaway1956> sister is only 130 or so
[20:17:59] <Bytram> Heh! https://soylentnews.org
[20:18:01] <systemd> ^ 03Scientists Have Discovered Unexpected Benefits of Fat in Type 2 Diabetes - SoylentNews
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[20:25:25] <Bytram> coffee++
[20:25:25] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5598
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[20:54:57] <FatPhil> whisky++ hmmm, maybe I should buy one of these: https://www.alcostore.ee
[20:54:57] <Bender> karma - whisky: 17
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[22:05:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elizabeth Holmes to Face Maximum of 80 Years in Prison when She’s Sentenced in September - https://sylnt.us - to-be-determined
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[22:59:06] <Bytram> that was... "fun". Had vlc pretty much lock up my system. Mouse pointer moved okay but clicking did nothing. Ctrl+Alt+1 (IIRC). Then "top" and killed vlc and Thunderbird. Seems to be working ok now, but I think it is time for a reboot. :(